Stolen Signs

by | Jan 18, 2020 | Beer | 202 comments

Its been mentioned here earlier this week in the links but I didn’t see a lot of discussion on the matter.  So we’ll go ahead and do it now because unlike most sports fans, I at least admit I am petty*.  Why not?

This is my review of Surly Brewing Co. Coffee Bender Brown Ale

The observation station

A “Super Fan” of the Los Angeles Dodgers is filing a class action lawsuit against Major League Baseball for the cost of his World Series Tickets, parking, food, and beer as soon as he is done calculating the cost of concessions.  A Los Angeles city councilman is filing a resolution declaring the Dodgers champions.  Why?  The Dodgers lost the 2017 World Series to a team determined after an MLB investigation to use an elaborate system involving high power cameras and “sophisticated means” to communicate to the dugout.  They set up a camera in the outfield focused on the catcher’s crotch, identified the pitch, and simply relayed the corresponding sign/pitch to the video room the next time they saw the same sign.  They then relayed this to somebody in the dugout who banged on a trash can to signal the next pitch would be a breaking ball.  Listen closely before the pitcher steps off the rubber…and then watch the batter strike out even though he supposedly knew the pitch.

I no get national anthem. Who is Jose, and why can’t he see Don is curling light?

Now this fan, before we say anything else, looks exactly like you think he does.  To add further insult to injury the Boston Red Sox are also under investigation in a sign stealing scheme of their own and fired their manager, who was implicated in the investigation into the Astros.  He coached there the year prior, and the Red Sox beat the Dodgers in the 2018 World Series.

Did the Astros cheat?  Absolutely.  There is no denying that.

The jury is still out with the Red Sox but firing Alex Cora doesn’t look like a good sign.  MLB absolutely has rules against using mechanical devices to steal signs from the opposite team.  Eyeballs are fair game.  Whatever punishment MLB decides to issue is more than warranted.  However, the question remains as to whether or not this actually determined the outcome because this ultimately is what this lawsuit is about.  Sad beard wanted to see his team win a World Series and was arguably cheated out of it.

It is not that simple.

The 2017 World Series went all seven games with the Dodgers having home field advantage.  Dodgers won at home for Games 1, and 6.  They also won in Houston for Game 4 (6-2 LA) and very nearly won the slugfest that was Game 5 (13-12 Hou).  If the Astros were uniquely advantaged because of this scheme, why didn’t they win all their games at home?  Seems like the Dodgers had a chance to win in LA where the Astros could not employ their scheme, and even played well enough to win in Houston (nearly twice) in spite of it.  Another issue that comes up is Yu Darvish, a pitcher for the Dodgers traded for that season, and had a terrible game (Game 3) in Houston where he gave up four earned runs.  Given he had no issues with his control or delivery, his poor play is explained by the sign stealing scheme.  At first glance this seems plausible given his career against Houston to that point appears to have gone very well.  His postseason stats up to that point however, are mixed.  Even if the sign stealing scheme was used against him, he also pitched in Game 7 in LA, where he again gave up another four earned runs.  One could argue he was traded from the Texas Rangers, a team that plays in the same division as the Astros, and they used previous footage from previous games he pitched at Minute Maid Park.  If one were to argue this point, they would have to explain why he used identical signs, with multiple catchers on two separate teams.  A simple answer is the Astros had a good scouting report as a result of familiarity with inter-division opponents.  The bottom line in 2017, the Dodgers had their chance and failed.

In 2018 they played the Boston Red Sox.  This was a much quicker series with Boston winning the first two games at Fenway Park.  The Dodgers won Game 3 at home and then lost the remaining two games in Los Angeles.  Once again, the Dodgers had their chance to play at home where there was no scheme against them.  If the Red Sox used a similar sign stealing scheme to win a World Series, they should also be punished.  But to imply this is a case for an asterisk, or even strip the title from the teams is unreasonable.  There were too many variables involved to prove a definitive cause and effect for one team beating another in a seven game series.

Even if it did have a direct effect it does not necessarily mean the Dodgers would have won, because the teams that cheated arguably cheated throughout the season and the rest of the playoffs.  Would the teams that cheated beaten the teams they beat in the playoffs to get to the World Series?  Would they have even made the playoffs?  Could the Dodgers beat the team that ultimately would win against the AL team that prevailed?  It is impossible to determine how entire seasons would play out had they not cheated, and nobody determines a winner based on theoretical projections—they have to play the game.  In the same way the records broken during the steroid era cannot be taken down because many players used PEDs in the minor leagues and were ultimately called up to the Major Leagues because of their inflated offensive production.  Others continued using them in the Major League.  Too many were cheating then to punish them all and based on the statements MLB made on the matter, these sign stealing schemes were more widespread than these two teams.

Again, none of this changes the fact the Dodgers had their chances at home where they were not playing against a stacked deck and even had the advantage to use their own sign-stealing scheme they were accused of using in 2018.

Also, screw these guys for asking the government to declare their team that lost the winner.

This beer is dangerous.  It contains actual cold brew coffee so don’t drink this at night unless you plan to stay up for extra innings.  For a coffee flavored beer, its actually rather smooth, in the way a brown ale should be. Surly Brewing Co. Coffee Bender Brown Ale:  3.8/5

 

*In the interest of full disclosure, I am a Diamondbacks fan.  Naturally, I despise the Dodgers and find this whole thing schadenfraudelicious.  No, I don’t hate them because I am jealous of their “success,” because last I checked my team managed to win a World Series since the Reagan administration.

 

 

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202 Comments

  1. Gustave Lytton

    The Dbacks, like all post mid-80’s moves and expansions, isn’t a real MLB team.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Thats a pathetic attempt to troll me. Your better than that.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        Is he really, though?

        (also, nice Ted-bait)

      • Gustave Lytton

        I’m not. Nor am I trying to troll. All sports teams are locked into what I first remember as a kid. Everything else is revisionist claptrap.

        Bring back the Sonics and close up the Rockies.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        The Nordiques and the mighty Whale!

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Well, in your world the Lakers aren’t in LA either. I’m comfortable with that.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I’m not that old!

        Ah, the great Lakers-Celtics rivalry. Being on this side of the country, my sympathies were naturally with Magic.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        The hell you are. The Giants are still in Tokyo to you aren’t they?

      • Raven Nation

        “All sports teams are locked into what I first remember as a kid.”

        Correct, there are no AFL teams in Sydney, Adelaide, or Perth. In fact, there is no AFL. There is still a First Division in English football.

        “All sports teams are locked into what I first remember as a kid.

        The one exception is that the Brisbane Broncos exist, but they play in the NSWRL not the NRL.

      • Naptown Bill

        My local bar sells shirts and stickers that have the Redskins logo with the cartoon Orioles face in the middle, sort of like this. I agree. For a lot of people in my area of a certain age or older, Maryland’s professional sports teams are the Redskins and the Orioles. Usually these same people still have a beef with the Colts.

    • KSuellington

      Bring back the Expos!

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        I had the “pleasure” of seeing an all-Canadian baseball game – Expos vs. Blue Jays at the Stade Olympique (which is a pile of shit).

      • KSuellington

        Nice. Supposedly MLB players loved going to Montreal back in the 70’s as it was the best place to procure drugs. I saw the Giants play the Expos a number of times at Candlestick as a yout, I liked those games because the Giants actually had a shot to win them and the Expos uniforms were always awesome.

      • Ted S.

        What about the Astros’ 80s uniforms?

      • KSuellington

        That should be a part of their punishment.

        (just kidding, really, I kinda love those 80’s unis)

  2. Nephilium

    Surly makes some good beer, and they’ve just started getting distributed here in Ohio.

  3. Yusef drives a Kia

    After the strike, I quit following Baseball

    • westernsloper

      *scratches head*

      Snort

    • Fatty Bolger

      Same here. I was wasting too much time watching games, anyway. I have better things to waste my time on.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        I watched a _lot_ of baseball at one point – like, a majority of the games. That fell off quite a bit after the Sox finally won in 2004. Barely watched any last couple years (though I did go to a ALCS game at Fenway in 2018, which was pretty cool).

  4. Jarflax

    Rage about sports cheating scandals is a joke. All teams in all sports at all significant levels try various methods to get the upper hand and frequently cross the line. Getting outraged about it when your opponent does it is just part of the way fans signal their team allegiance. Fan means fanatic, by definition fan responses won’t be sane. The sane thing to do is to take all that rage you are wasting on the Patriots, the Astros, or even the NCAA refs, and direct it to Orangemanbad!

      • westernsloper

        …accessed the area above the false ceiling in the clubhouse and crawled across with a flashlight in his mouth until he reached the umpires’ room

        That is some Mission Impossible stuff. That is skill!

  5. Don Escaped Bloomington

    I’ve got a Surly tee shirt. Yankees be handy.

    I wouldn’t make a federal case out of it, but a ticket-holder does feel ripped off when some team comes to town and sits an important player or when a team takes a dive for draft spots. My son’s a Houston alum: imagine buying season tickets for what should be a decent and maybe great season, and then suddenly your top three players take red shirts for their senior years.

  6. westernsloper

    I have been on many a “coffee bender” but I just drank beer with a coffee sidecar as god intended. Baseball should be impeached for cheating just like Trump.

    • Q Continuum

      Has he actually been banned for life?

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        Not as of yet. Not at all clear that will be the penalty.

      • KSuellington

        No, there’s just a bunch of people calling for it. I was reading yesterday about Coppolella, a former Braves GM, getting a lifetime ban for something that seemed not as big a deal.

        I don’t really think any of it warrants lifetime bans, but a year or two sounds about right.

    • cyto

      Holy crap, that is a funny meme.

  7. Not Adahn

    Radio Announcer: “And in sports, there’s only one ting to talk about. The sign stealing scandal which is blowing up to be the biggest scandal in all of Major League Baseball…”
    Not Adahn: Dafuq? Call me when there are congressional hearings.
    Radio Announcer: “…this century.”
    Not Adahn: Oh.

    • Rhywun

      congressional hearings

      Oh please do this! I love when they waste their time on trivialities that don’t affect me.

  8. The Late P Brooks

    Imagine, if you can, the depth and breadth of my indifference.

    • Rhywun

      “It is an area which we call… the Twilight Zone.”

    • MikeS

      Behold! The field in which I grow my fucks. Lay thine eyes upon it and thou shalt see that it is barren.

  9. Not Adahn

    Question for the gunsmiths/metalworkers:

    In NY, semi-auto + threaded barrel + detachable magazine = Illegal Killer Death Machine (who I saw open for Smashmouth in ’92, but that’s a different story).

    The NY State Police refuses to define exactly how you can make a threaded barrel complaint, because they want to be able to drop charges on you at their discretion. Some gun stores and local cops say that permanently (red) Loctiting a thread protector on it is fine, others say that not good enough, you’ve got to pin and weld on the thread protector. It seems to me I should just be able to file off the threads. Question: what product should I use afterwards on the newly exposed metal?

    • westernsloper

      None. Stupid gun laws have given you an excuse to buy a mig welder. Buy one.

      • Not Adahn

        But then I’ll need to store an argon tank. And won’t the welding wreck the barrel heat treat at best or warp it?

      • westernsloper

        I have no idea I was making a joke. Granted most of my jokes are lame but they are original as far as I know. I would never weld a gun barrel unless it was at least 150mm in diameter and at least 6mm thick.

      • Not Adahn

        I used to work for a custom knifemaker, so I’m all sorts of paranoid about heat treatments and fucking them up.

        If you sharpen knives on a grinding wheel, you are wrong!

      • Mojeaux

        Dude, I can’t even figure out how to sharpen a knife on a whetstone. Oh, I know the motions and the movements, but they don’t get any sharper.

    • DEG

      You could move to a place where semi-auto + threaded barrel + detachable magazine != Illegal Killer Death Machine.

      To protect the metal, maybe some cold blue?

      • Not Adahn

        I’m always interested in new job opportunities in free states. But I’ve got to admit that I love living here. It’s exactly my type of beautiful (forests + mountains)

      • Drake

        The question is, do you ever plan to escape? I’m not destroying or selling a gun I’ll want to use after I escape NJ.

      • Not Adahn

        I don’t have the budget (or the inclination) to acquire guns I can’t take out and shoot. And the places I like to shoot most are full of hyper-picky rules-lawyering gun nerds who are just looking for a reason to DQ you or at least get you out of their division. At best all the other competitors are going to observe every freaking detail about what you’re shooting to either boost their own ego, or to see how it functions if it might be an upgrade for them.

        TL;DR: I’ll absolutely get caught if my gun isn’t compliant, and I have no patience for hiding it in a safe. And honestly, muzzle devices aren’t enough of an improvement for me to notice at my skill level.

      • westernsloper

        What Deg said. Lots of forests and mountains out there. Although here is getting as bad as NYS. I had to get my dad to buy me mags in AZ. Speaking of which, also has forests and mtns. Flagstaff is beautiful.

      • Not Adahn

        Yes, there are definitely opportunities in AZ and (somewhat less so) ID.

      • DEG

        You were in chip fabrication right? Or am I not remembering?

        NH is slowly turning into North Massachusetts, but it is freer than NYS.

        Poking around on the Internet, I see BAE has a chip fabrication plant somewhere in New Hampshire. You’d probably need a security clearance. Allegro in Manchester comes up as being involved in that area, though I don’t know if they have a chip fabrication plant.

      • Not Adahn

        Yes I am. We’ve got a fab in VT, but unfortunately, I’ve turned my little kingdom here into an empire and am having their work transferred to my site.

      • DEG

        Ah. There are worse things than growing an empire.

      • Timeloose

        What is you’re area of expertise? CMP, photolith, plasma etch, deposition, or diffusion?

      • Not Adahn

        Chemistry. I’ve been doing failure analysis mainly with litho and CMP, but also work with microcontamination, WWT, AMC, and the like. Primary toolsets are VPD ICP-MS, and IC, but have plenty of experience with GC-MS.

      • Timeloose

        Understood. I was a FA guy for many years. I was more device physics and materials focused.

      • Gustave Lytton

        That’s my problem too. I love where I am, not the government and to a much lesser extent, the culture. But if it wasn’t for the government enforcement, the culture would e a non issue and something to laugh at.

      • Naptown Bill

        #metoo. I actually really like Maryland, and until about twenty years ago I liked the people around here, too. The laws have always sucked and are getting even worse, though, and the area is turning into a DC suburb as people move here and the old timers move or die off.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      I had to do that with my AR as it is a mil spec 14.5” barrel with a carbine length gas system. I just had my local death merchant pin it, because you can technically break red locktite.

      Cold blue should work and is available at Wal-Mart (probably) or a place like Sportman’s Warehouse, or just go next level with a spray-on durakote.

    • Jarflax

      What is the reasoning behind the threaded barrel ban?

      • Not Adahn

        NY is a “1 feature” state. And besides, with a threaded barrel, you could put a silencer on and kill and entire school before anyone could hear you and alert the police to come and stop you.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        What’s their take on muzzle brakes?

      • Not Adahn

        Any muzzle device is a feature.

    • Sean

      You could have your barrel replaced with a non threaded barrel. I see barrels starting at just over $100.

      • Not Adahn

        Yeah, and if I move to a free state, I’ll get new barrels to replace the ones I’ve had to neuter here. But otherwise, I’ll just be storing barrels I can’t shoot in public.

  10. DEG

    This beer is dangerous. It contains actual cold brew coffee so don’t drink this at night unless you plan to stay up for extra innings. For a coffee flavored beer, its actually rather smooth, in the way a brown ale should be. Surly Brewing Co. Coffee Bender Brown Ale: 3.8/5

    Sounds yummy.

    Tea with honey, lemon, and Bourbon.

  11. The Late P Brooks

    All sports teams are locked into what I first remember as a kid. Everything else is revisionist claptrap.

    Fuck the Ravens. Fuck Art Modell with a rusty anchor chain.

    • Nephilium

      /nods in agreement

    • Ted S.

      Poor OMWC….

    • JaimeRoberto Delecto

      You misspelled Al Davis.

  12. DEG

    I just received the following text message:

    “Hi (my real full name here)! It’s Andrew with Bernie 2020. Bernie has been fighting against greed and corruption for decades. That’s why he’s the candidate I trust to take on the billionaire class and make our economy work for all of us. Are you in for Bernie?”

    My response:

    “Fuck off Slaver”

    I then blocked the number.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      That’s not going to stop them. Its better to string them along.

      • westernsloper

        “fuck no I intend to be a billionaire and I see your attack on my goals to be a direct threat to my person and liberties. Where are you now and what is your name? I will hunt you, and I will find you.”

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        “I will hunt you, and I will [have my minions] find you”

        FIFY

      • Nephilium

        “But I don’t want to go to a camp!”

    • Fatty Bolger

      If there’s anybody I trust to make the economy work, it’s a fucking commie.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Lazy fucking commie.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      I believe I have had that one, actually.

      Tastes like IPA.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    It seems to me I should just be able to file off the threads. Question: what product should I use afterwards on the newly exposed metal?

    Gun blue.

    I’m not 100% in favor of filing the threads off, but that’s pretty permanent.

    • Not Adahn

      It’s possible to get really cheap uppers via PSA and the like, but they almost always come with some sort of muzzle device, and the cheapest ones are usually M4 style (so a bayonet lug that I’need to cut off also). I have a feeling if I get even vaguely deep into multi-gun, I’ll have to do a lot of these modifications.

  14. Mojeaux

    Beef stroganoff in the stock pot.

    Truce with XY after a very long come-to-Jesus meeting—after his therapy session.

    Brownies that XX made last night.

    XY now diligently cleaning his room in a good-faith effort to address my grievances (we’ll see how long that lasts) ?

    Husband getting to the alternate scene in Cods & Cuntes so he can tell me which one works better.

    Yesterday’s mini-thread on stoicism printed out, highlighted, and meditated upon.

    Lastly, I saw a marked uptick in my ebook sales after yesterday’s post. Thank you all! Man, I love this place.

    So it’s been a productive day already and it’s not even noon in God Standard Time.

    • Mojeaux

      Fuck a duck.

      OT: I need to cancel my MLB AtBat subscription. I don’t piddle around my yard or in my garage anymore and … wait, Royals who? /fair-weather fan

      • Nephilium

        One advantage of T-Mobile is for the past two years they’ve given out a free AtBat subscription in Spring.

    • Jarflax

      It’s almost 8 pm in God Standard Time.

      • Mojeaux

        LIES!

      • Ted S.

        That would be Vampire Standard Time.

      • Mojeaux

        If you were a vampire, how long do you think it would take for the ennui to settle in?

    • DEG

      This sounds like a good day.

    • Ted S.

      Husband getting to the alternate scene in Cods & Cuntes so he can tell me which one works better.

      I presume having a cod works better for him than having a cunte….

      • Not Adahn

        Cods & Cuntes Vol II: The Futanari Succubus

      • Mojeaux

        Did you just assume gender?

      • Mojeaux

        Boy I lit that Ted’S signal up bright, didn’t I?

  15. Q Continuum

    Allow all cheating and performance enhancing drugs.

    For the children.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        (I’ve seen that a dozen times and I’m still laughing out loud like a maniac)

      • Nephilium

        It could devolve into a Tour de Pharmacy though.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        Hah, never even heard of that before – any good?

      • Nephilium

        It’s fairly short, and I enjoyed it. There was a whole bit with Dolph Lundgren using his accent to confuse cheetah and cheater (as he was found to be doping with a huge list of items, including cheetah blood).

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        My wife has The Marathon du Médoc on her bucket list. We’ll see if she’s just talking a good game.

      • Chafed

        I hope that course has a lot of portapotties along the way.

      • Nephilium

        Well, this doesn’t have the oysters (not that I would trust raw oysters outside in Summer in NE Ohio anyway), but there is the Dog Days of Summer cycling wine tour. They’ve got the rest stops planned at wineries. The downside… it’s in Oberlin.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    Now that I think about it, the GSG .22 conversion top end living on the 1911 frame I built has a threaded barrel. The Sig Mosquito might, too.

    It don’t matter, here, nohow.

  17. Aloysious

    As a Mariners fan, I got nuthin’. The Mariners can’t beat anybody.

    • Tres Cool

      Let me introduce you the the Cincinnati Reds….

    • slumbrew - double secret satan

      Did drugs fall out of his ass before the fight?

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        Also, we need to talk about your URL…

    • Jarflax

      This is a man willing to kill or die for his kid! This is father of the year!

    • AlmightyJB

      How not to get custody.

    • commodious spittoon

      Jimbob, you’ve worked all your life at a Phillips 66 gas station. How have you atoned for your part in wrecking the Exxon Valdez when you were sixteen?

    • commodious spittoon

      Who’s the bigger asshole, the “journalist” trying to hold Buttigieg accountable for price-fixing bread, or the consumer pricing expert trying to hold Target accountable for tagging a display unit?

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        The journalist, since it’s malice aforethought. But not by much.

    • Rhywun

      I liked this:

      The conversation hit another snag when a Times writer said Buttigieg used to support abolishing the Electoral College, but hasn’t talked about it in a while.

      It’s like they accused him of being pro-choice or something. I hope every Dem continues to run with this position.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Corked bat, steroids, skin bleaching. That guy was all sorts of messed up.

    • DEG

      That looks like a good beer.

    • Ted S.

      People are complaining that they can’t marry Uncle Sugar and force the rest of us to subsidize them? And arguing that this actually happens?

      • leon

        No. You see. It’s a human right to be able to live off the backs of other people without paying them anything back.

    • Mojeaux

      *gasp*

      MARRIAGE IS TRANSACTIONAL?!?!

      Who knew?

      Why, that’s NEVER been the way marriage works! What about love?!

      • commodious spittoon

        This is why I’m not married, I can’t afford the service fees.

      • Mojeaux

        $3 per withdrawal from an ATM not owned by your bank?

        $36 NSF? Each?

        $10/month “analysis” fee?

      • leon

        If you maintain a minimum deposit, sometimes they will waive those fees.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        Parts of that movie were wildly enjoyable, even if TC is far too small to play that character.

    • Rhywun

      The horror.

    • AlmightyJB

      Does that includes Trans Women? Or are only Cis women helpless, hapless pets needing a master to feed and house them?

    • AlmightyJB

      So are they going to outlaw homosexuality because it messes up the male/female-master/pet ratio?

  18. egould310

    I’m going to mix up a martini. Smirnoff, vermouth, olive.

  19. l0b0t

    Sitting in a great Mexican restaurant in Long Beach, NY. Waiting for daughter to finish theater camp. Amazing shrimp tacos, Whistle Pig for $5 per shot and Barrier Brewing’s Money. Good times.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22928/83045/

  20. commodious spittoon

    You wouldn’t toss a bag of shredded cheese if you see a tiny bit of mold? I’m talking maybe ten variably moldy grains in a pound bag.

    • Mojeaux

      No. Pick them out, shave them off, whatever. Bleu cheese IS mold.

      • egould310

        Yeah. It’s already moldy. Just pick out/cut off the egregIous mold. Good to go.

    • Nephilium

      I would.

      • commodious spittoon

        DAMNIT NEPHILIUM WE NEED CONSENSUS.

        It’s too late, I’m eating it already. I’ll let you know if I die.

    • Not Adahn

      When I was at Neal’s Yard, the person behind the counter said “Cheese doesn’t go bad, it just turns into different cheese.”

      I can confirm that if you forget about a wheel of brie in the back of your refrigerator for a couple of years, it becomes something wonderful. Then again, it’s a bloomy rind which would prevent pathogenic gritters from oclonizing.

      • l0b0t

        I had a wheel of 12 month old Manchego that I had aged for about 5 years but Superduperstorm Sandy knocked our power for 22 days and it was lost to the rotten fridge god.

    • AlmightyJB

      Yeah, I’d toss shredded.

    • Tulip

      If it were a block of cheese I’d cut it off, but toss shredded

    • KSuellington

      Hell no don’t toss that. Homemade penicillin is the bomb!

    • AlmightyJB

      I’m still laughing:)

  21. Mojeaux

    I wanted to watch a movie with XX, but it’s only on Hulu, which we don’t have. So now we’re watching a different movie that I am meh about but her friend rec’d. Dammit.

    • Nephilium

      Is XX enjoying it?

      Are you enjoying spending time with XX?

      • Jarflax

        ^this.

      • Mojeaux

        Yes and yes. I just had my heart set on introducing her to one of my favorite movies. She trusts me with her retro movie experience, you see.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        I just had my heart set on introducing her to one of my favorite movies.

        Now you have to share, so we can pass judgement.

      • Ted S.

        It’s “Jaws”.

      • Mojeaux

        Drop Dead Gorgeous

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        I’ve never seen it, so I can’t judge. I’m all about black comedies, though.

        (contemplates re-watching Patriot)

      • Mojeaux

        LOL

      • Agent Cooper

        Undercover Brother?

      • Mojeaux

        What we ARE watching is Groundhog Day, which she is greatly enjoying.

      • Nephilium

        *blink*

        Are you saying you don’t like Groundhog Day?

      • Mojeaux

        No, I said “meh.” It is just not on my must-rewatch list..

      • Jarflax

        It does get repetitive.

      • The Hyperbole

        You can say that again.

      • Mojeaux

        Deja vu all over again.

      • Don Escaped Bloomington

        When Escaped Jr was twelvish, we watched some time-and-place pieces that weren’t my favorite flicks, but they were fun guy stuff to share. I knew I could trust him to watch them and laugh at them for the stupid crap they were:
        * Animal House
        * Caddy Shack
        * Pulp Fiction

        Watching favorites would take time: not even my 12YO was ready for my favorites . . . except maybe Lawrence of Arabia.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        You can throw Happy Gilmore on that list of stupid but fun.

      • Mojeaux

        Pulp Fiction is too much for XX yet. I made her sit down with me and watch Kill Bill, though, which she loved.

        She was not impressed with Ferris Bueller.

      • Spudalicious

        We just finished watching Blues Brothers.

      • Nephilium

        That’s the important thing.

        My niece didn’t understand why I recommended the original Twilight Zone until she made it through two episodes. Then she was hooked.

      • CPRM

        One of your favorites and you don’t own a copy?

      • Mojeaux

        Why, no. No, I don’t.

      • CPRM

        Then rectify that.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        On a semi-related note, I recently bought a Blu-Ray of Blazing Saddles – I expect that to get memory-holed on the streaming services at some point.

    • KSuellington

      I wouldn’t call it my favorite, but I just saw Farewell, My Lovely with Robert Mitchum and Charlotte Rampling last week and enjoyed it tremendously. A ton of great, snappy dialogue and even a cameo by a very young Sly Stallone. I’d heartily recommend.

    • Ted S.

      I was hoping it was video of your dog with the runs.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        It’s not really that exciting. Currently waiting for the sub-freezing temperatures to do their thing and make cleaning up that spot at then end of the driveway a bit easier.

  22. LCDR_Fish

    Ok, just added broccoli and cauliflower to the roast. Wound up with a lot of extra cauliflower that won’t fit though.

    Any suggestions for how to prepare it (I nearly only work with frozen stuff normally)? Guess I’ll stick it in tupperware in the fridge for the moment.

    • slumbrew - double secret satan

      You can just toss it with a little olive oil, salt & pepper and toss it on a sheet in the oven. Tasty.

      • Not Adahn

        ^this

      • The Hyperbole

        Use melted butter instead of olive oil. And to add to Slum below toss them every 10 mins or so.

      • LCDR_Fish

        Thanks. Will save for later this week. (temp and approx time for large florets?)

      • LJW

        Look for a veggie seasoning at the grocery store, or if you have a BBQ store nearby. My wife roasted some broccoli the other night with some Traegar Veggie rub. She’s also used one called cattleman’s grill on another batch. Both were really good.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        I’d say around 400 and start checking them after 20 minutes or so – you want them to get a bit of color, but “done” depends on how al dente you like things.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        Good trick for extra crispy-ness – put the sheet pan in the oven while it pre-heats. You’ll get a nice sizzle when you dump the florets onto the now-hot sheet.

    • Agent Cooper

      Buffalo sauce, then under the broiler for a few minutes.

  23. Don Escaped Bloomington

    Lori Wallach on C-SPAN3: “Whose Trade Organization?”

    WTO chat: pretty insightful with real doses of actual economics

  24. KSuellington

    Apropos of nothing I was just remembering how entertaining Dennis Miller was on MNF. I’d love to see him back, but I imagine the chances of that are bout as likely as reanimating Frank Gifford. He had some hilarious lines, who else is gonna hang, “that receiver is being shunned like an Amish kid with a nipple ring”, or “the ref is whipping out the flag like the only lighter at a crack house.” ? I can’t believe the NFL let that happen.

    • LCDR_Fish

      You can at least listen to his podcast. A little weird because his references are just so old (in a good way). I mean…who else would use classic film references (other than TedS) for describing current events, etc.

      • KSuellington

        Heh, indeed. Thanks I will, I always forget about podcasts.

      • Ted S.

        Yes, but does he also reference songs that make you scream in horror?

    • Spudalicious

      She better clean it after making tortillas, or she’s going to get a yeast infection.

    • Not Adahn

      Not even vaguely believable.

      • AlmightyJB

        I first read this as vaginally believable.

  25. Ownbestenemy

    Baked quesadillas completed, chicken marinating in some buttermilk to be fried later this evening.

    Yard work needs to be done and work in the trailer is coming along.

    I need to go out and buy this beer to finish out my day.

  26. Rhywun

    The Supreme Court on Friday agreed to hear the Trump administration’s appeal of a lower court’s nationwide injunction against its effort to exempt more employers from the Affordable Care Act’s contraception mandate.

    Stupid question… why is contraception “health care” but an aspirin isn’t?

    • slumbrew - double secret satan

      That’s excellent.

      • slumbrew - double secret satan

        For any NH Glibs – she’s cute and now has an extra $20k for a vacation…

    • AlmightyJB

      Hilarious. If that dude wanted to save face, he’d donate money.

  27. Mojeaux

    Watched a movie with XX.

    Made some money.

    Mr. Mojeaux about to play with my hair.

    Today is a good day.

    • westernsloper

      I took a glorious nap and am now having a coffee and a beer.