Tuesday Morning Links

by | Jan 21, 2020 | Daily Links | 511 comments

Good!

Alrighty then, I hope everyone enjoyed yesterday. Whether you were at home dealing with three wound-up kids or were at work watching the Virginia protests rather than getting anything done, it’s nice when a federal holiday rolls around. Unless of course you’re not from here. In which case, how dare you people not celebrate MLK Jr. Your countries are racist.

Looks like the Australian Open is underway. That’s nice. I hope the place doesn’t burn down. I didn’t notice any big upsets, but I’ll be honest, it’s kinda hard to tell what’s going on with the women’s side, and on the mens I’m still of the mind that there are only a few names that can win a major tournament. When something big happens in week 1, I’ll be sure to mention it. I’ll just stick to hockey and do my daily reminder that the Red Wings are a freaking disgrace. The Avalanche doubled them up yesterday. And the Wild also went down to the Panthers. Β And those were the only games.

I WANT ONE!!!

Confederate General Stonewall Jackson was born on this day. Β He shares it with gunmaking legend John Browning, Russian rat Rasputin, hockey heavyweight Georges Vezina, fashion designer Christian Dior, acrobatic patriarch Karl Wallenda, slapped actor Telly Savalas, comic legend Benny Hill, (the greatest) golfer (of all time) Jack Nicklaus, tenor Placido Domingo, presidential wingman Eric Holder, gazillionaire Paul Allen, actress with big teeth Geena Davis, basketball player Hakeem “the Dream” Olajuwon, Spice Girl Emma Bunton, and soccer player Phil Neville.

And now we come to…the links!

Good thing the cops were able to dedicate this manpower to solving the really big crimes.Β Graffiti is an eyesore. But isn’t this a bit selective as far as prosecutions go?

Here we go again…

I’ll paraphrase the real meaning of what she’s saying:Β I want all poor people in developing countries to die because I’m an idiot.Β Because, you know, that’s the only way those people are going to get power necessary to heat their homes, build infrastructure, get things to market and each other, have potable water, develop sanitation, produce more food, and a shitoad of other things. Β But nobody will point that out to her from the media.

Maybe its time to quarantine China.Β Oh well, at least it’s happening when travel there is lo…oh shit, it’s happening when millions from around the world are going there. Β That’s just great.

If this surprises you, you don’t know much about Chicagoland politics.Β Maybe the solution is to stop implementing programs and getting the government so involved in every single facet of your lives. Β Or maybe it’s a MOAB.

“I am so fucking high right now”

This is the New American Dream.Β It’s a touching story about a single family overcoming all obstacles to strike it rich. Well done!

There was no encore.Β Too bad he didn’t have the foresight to have played Happy Trails earlier in the set.

Just in case you thought only American intel agencies were corrupt at the top,Β It looks like Interpol has a similar issue.Β Gee, how surprising!

Enjoy the Remoaners’ theme song.

Now have a great day, friends!

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511 Comments

  1. PieInTheSky

    Maybe its time to quarantine China. Oh well, at least it’s happening when travel there is lo…oh shit, it’s happening when millions from around the world are going there. That’s just great. – well this is the beginning of the end I suppose. Go to your bunkers!

    • Enough About Palin

      Hello Pie. Look at Rebel Scums post below. His format is very readable.

  2. Rebel Scum

    But isn’t this a bit selective as far as prosecutions go?

    Racist is the worst thing you can be these days.

    • sloopyinca

      It is a pretty despicable thing to be. But in cases like this, I’m wondering if the idiot could mount a defense on selective prosecution of his views rather than his actions.

      I’m also wondering why an arraignment and lengthy process for a crime with a penalty of $200. Especially since our court systems are overwhelmed (since there are way too many laws).

      • Naptown Bill

        I’ve come to see being racist as sort of like believing the Earth is flat, or that storks deliver babies. There’s nothing inherently hateful about it, it’s just ignorance, and it only starts being a genuine character flaw when you persist in holding to those beliefs in the face of evidence to the contrary. Like that bit about black people not being able to swim, it’s not inherently immoral, it’s just dumb, and it makes you look like an idiot when you go around making the claim as if it’s at all true. Attaching malice to it makes you look stupid and bad, which isn’t an improvement, but that’s just like putting some spin on the stupid ball, so to speak.

      • Q Continuum

        That’s where you’re wrong comrade. We cannot allow the People to hold wrongthinkful opinions. They must be beaten, broken and reset into believing rightthinkful things. Otherwise they must be liquidated.

      • sloopyinca

        Black people can swim. It’s the Hispanics that can’t. But that’s only because they’re all wearing cutoff jeans that are too tight and a t-shirt when they get in the pool.

      • Florida Man

        No, no. I’ve been to Ireland and seen tons of white people swimming in 50 degree weather and I’ve been to Haiti in 90 degree weather and not seen a single black person in the water. White people are just genetically predisposed to get in any body of water. It’s not racism it’s science.

      • UnCivilServant

        Haitians who could swim got on anything that could float and left Haiti.

      • Florida Man

        Counter point: I lived in pompano beach, where all the escaped Haitians went and they were far under represented at the beach. Fishing, sure. Swimming, not so much.

      • Fourscore

        How did all the Mexicans get into the US if they couldn’t swim? Answer me that, Mr Wise Guy

  3. PieInTheSky

    watching the Virginia protests rather than getting anything done, – was there any shooting? what are the fatalities?

    • UnCivilServant

      The narrative suffered greatly.

      Expect no coverage.

      • AlexinCT

        You think this will make the headlines?

      • AlexinCT

        What about this incident. My guess is they will immediately claim this has to be fake because no real tarns anything would be pro 2A, let alone be a team red player.

      • Trials and Trippelations

        Sure it will when it is revealed that racist gun rights activists kidnapped his family and made him give that speech to reporters

    • blackjack

      It was perfectly representative. The government panicked and made a bunch of special rules. The protesters were respectful and even cleaned up after themselves. Antifa steered clear of the whole thing out of fear. It oughta show the stupidity of the gun grabbers, but will be spun the exact opposite.

      • UnCivilServant

        Antifa steered clear of the whole thing out of fear.

        Well yeah, it doesn’t matter whether the cops are on your side if you try to start shit with tens of thousands of armed protesters.

      • UnCivilServant

        Plants and infiltrators are distinct from the black bloc bullies that we were referring to with the group label.

      • Q Continuum

        “Antifa steered clear of the whole thing out of fear”

        something, something, armed society, polite society, something…

      • Naptown Bill

        Man that guy is a piece of shit.

      • robc

        “I want gay married couples to be able to protect their marijuana plants with guns.”

        That may be the best poster I have seen in a while.

      • Tonio

        That slogan has been floating around for a while, but does piss off all the right people. Also, bonus value that the gays and black(s) were welcome there.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        * with fully automatic guns, is the way it usually is said.

      • UnCivilServant

        Now I’m envisioning a fully automatic nuke launcher.

        Utterly useless and impractical, but somehow funny.

      • Rebel Scum

        The teams successfully de-escalated what could have been a volatile situation.

        I wasn’t aware of an escalation (except from the governor’s rhetoric prior to the event).

      • Tonio

        ^This. Unless you count the FBI intercepting the Canadian Neo-Nazis.

    • AlexinCT

      This was one of my favorite takes about the whole pile of shit that the blackface wearing KKK imitating democrat (which thus makes him totes not racist) got away with.

  4. blackjack

    The new American dream is a bunch of malarkey?

    • Fourscore

      I know, Chelsea is totally providing 600 K worth of productive value to her company. I’m waiting for the Obama girls to make their contribution to the GNP.

  5. PieInTheSky

    Just in case you thought only American intel agencies were corrupt at the top, It looks like Interpol has a similar issue. Gee, how surprising! – was the guy guilty or did the China have some other agenda?

    • Tonio

      “But who shall watch these watchmen?”

      • UnCivilServant

        You need to have a circle of agencies, each tasked with investigating the others for corruption.

      • R C Dean

        I saw that movie. Something bout a centipede, I think.

    • AlexinCT

      Who would have thunk it? A bunch of unelected bureaucrats (and thus unaccountable to the people) decide to do whatever suits their and their master’s needs, instead of serving the people? It’s not like we have not got a century of history about collectivist systems that favor top down power setups eventually ending in shitshows against the people (and especially those that notice and decide to stand against the erosion of their rights)!

      Of course, China being involved just makes the whole thing laughable. The new fascist incarnation on the planet objecting to other pseudo-fascists entities and their doings is just too funny of a dichotomy to leave untold.

  6. Rebel Scum

    I’ll paraphrase the real meaning of what she’s saying: I want all poor people in developing countries to die because I’m an idiot.

    They can just continue to burn wood…and dung. I’m sure Greta is ok with that.

    “We want this done now,” she said. “It may seem that we are asking for lots, and you will of course say we are naive,” but she said she and the children who support her around the world were actually seeking the “bare minimum” necessary to address what she calls the climate crisis facing the planet.

    The really stupid part is that we were getting to the point of having too little co2 in the atmosphere prior to the industrial revolution.

    • UnCivilServant

      It seems to me that Gaia crated humans to save the plants by releasing carbon dioxide from its earthy prisons.

    • Q Continuum

      She is going to end up in a padded cell before age 30.

      • Enough About Palin

        No. She will kill herself at 23.

      • leon

        You’re both wrong she’ll die along with the rest of us in 2030 at the age of 27.

      • AlexinCT

        I thought it would be 2032 since we had 12 years. or did they drop it down to 10 years now?

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      Don’t humans only contribute 4% of the atmospheric co2 any given year?

      • UnCivilServant

        We’ve been trying to get that number higher – why do you think we’ve been setting australia on fire?

    • Pope Jimbo

      I think this is great! Once we stop generating power from fossil fuels, the value of my orphans will sky rocket. Sure a lot of parents will begin competing with me by putting their kids back to work too, but that is fine, I can squeeze way more out of the orphans than those kid coddlers.

      • Fourscore

        I’m gonna store my firewood for a few years and get coal. I’ll be needing some younger orphans though.

  7. The Late P Brooks

    In her remarks she told the gathered business, political and NGO leaders that simply planting trees was “not enough,” in what appeared to be a veiled swipe at President Donald Trump’s announcement just a couple hours earlier that the U.S. was joining an international initiative to plant 1 trillion trees. Mr. Trump, in his opening address in Davos, also said it was time to reject the warnings of “prophets of doom and their predictions of the apocalypse.”

    Come on Bad Orange Man, tell the doomsday cultists what they want to hear. Then they’ll love you.

    • Q Continuum

      “simply planting trees was ‘not enough,'”

      For every tree we plant, we must kill a darkie of reproductive age. They multiply like bunnies.

      • sloopyinca

        “That’s not true. We want to kill at least as many Chinese and Indians.”
        -climate cultists

      • AlexinCT

        Funny how these jet setting big party attending cultists always want to kill other people. If they are so devoted, why don’t they start committing suicide. For Gaia, of course…

      • Pope Jimbo

        And deprive us of their enlightened intellect and noble leadership? Are you crazy?

      • Annoyed Nomad

        This. If someone really wants to make the biggest reduction in CO2 in their lifetime, the guaranteed method is to stop living (i.e., commit suicide). Putting solar panels on your home, driving a Prius, etc are all so very small compared to not living.

    • Q Continuum

      now being punished*

      Kind of important distinction.

    • straffinrun

      He got reamed on both ends.

    • l0b0t

      The report also recommends that courses incorporate inclusiveness best practices as outlined in an Allen School document. These include:

      The addition of an indigenous land acknowledgement to the syllabus.
      The use of gender-neutral names like Alex and Jun instead of Alice and Bob.
      The use of names that reflect a variety of cultural backgrounds: Xin, Sergey, Naveena, Tuan, Esteban, Sasha.
      An avoidance of references that depend on cultural knowledge of sports, pop culture, theater, literature, or games.
      The replacement of phrases like β€œyou guys” with β€œfolks” or β€œy’all.”
      A declaration of instructors’ pronouns and a request for students’ pronoun preferences.

      Seriously triggered! The word ‘folk’ is already plural; the appending of a superfluous ‘s’ just makes these people seem unlettered.

      • UnCivilServant

        No, folk refers to a group but is not itself pural you can have multiple folks in a larger society.

        whycome you hate diversity?

      • sloopyinca

        Y’all need to find something else to argue about.

        Also, the only positive from that is that they don’t include “yinz” as a good replacement word.

      • Naptown Bill

        Yinzers left out, as usual.

      • Agent Cooper

        Jagoffs and chiselers, all of them.

      • Agent Cooper

        Wanna go get a jumbo?

      • UnCivilServant

        And it’s “Yous guys.” said with an exagerrated new york italian accent.

      • pistoffnick

        My piloting and charting instructor has a strong northern Wisconnie accent. He says a lot of “Yous guys”

      • l0b0t

        Thank you. Was it you who, a few weeks ago, linked to those awesome article about Chicago gangs wearing letterman sweaters and handing out business cards? That was some cool stuff.

      • Swiss Servator

        Not I. But I used to (back when I was an Assistant State’s Attorney) know all of the gangs… the best – The Ashland Vikings. Unfortunately, no Scandis or battle axes.

      • Rebel Scum

        The replacement of phrases like β€œyou guys” with β€œfolks” or β€œy’all.”

        Southern vernacular is now appropriate?

    • Social Justice is Neither

      So he has a one year struggle session in order to implement a bunch of unrelated social justice buzzwords in his class and speech plus stop hurting the feelz of poor students by forgiving or masking their failures.

      Seems to me the correct response is “welcome, you all get an A. Class dismissed for the semester.”

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      This is rich:

      Stanley Fish describes this situation well in his recent book The First:

      “These students, often a minority, but a minority with a loud voice, tend to be wholly persuaded of the rightness of their views; they don’t see why they should be forced to listen to, or even be in the presence of, views they know to be false. They wish to institute what I would call a β€œvirtue regime,” where people who say the right kind of thing get to speak or teach and those who are on the wrong side of history (as they see it) don’t.”

      Fish is one of the godfathers of the postmodern trend in education. He helped tear the system down, but is distressed by what replaced it.

      • Swiss Servator

        Hoist by his own Retard.

  8. The Late P Brooks

    Meng has already been fired from his positions and expelled from the Communist Party. The relatively light sentence was likely a result of what the court called his cooperative attitude and willingness to admit to and shore remorse for his crimes.

    That’s how you do it.

  9. straffinrun

    “Our house is still on fire. Your inaction is fueling the flames by the hour, and we are telling you to act as if you loved your children above all else,” the young campaigner said.

    Can’t tell if she’s been listening to too much James or Talking Heads.

    • UnCivilServant

      We are still well below normal temperature and atmospheric carbon dioxide levels for the earth.

      One day we might emerge from this ice age.

    • Q Continuum

      “act as if you loved your children above all else”

      …by wrecking all their potential for prosperity in the future.

      • straffinrun

        If you love your child, you don’t need to act as if you loved your child. She wants people who hate their children to support her.

    • sloopyinca

      Our house is still on fire. Your inaction is fueling the flames by the hour, and we are telling you to act as if you loved your white, western children above all else.

      Fixed it for her.

    • Suthenboy

      Greta is the perfect spokesretard for the climate scam. Retarded.

      I hope whoever is pulling her strings burns in hell for what they have done to that child.

      • JD is Unemployed

        Well they probably will, along with the rest of us, if we don’t DO SOMETHING about the climate emergency like, yesterday!

      • Jarflax

        The juxtaposition of your avatar and this comment is nice.

      • Gadfly

        Greta is the perfect spokesretard for the climate scam.

        “Spokestard” has a nice ring to it.

  10. Rebel Scum

    Um…wut?

    If the Trump era has taught us anything, it’s that large numbers of white people in the United States are motivated at least in part by racism in the voting booth. Donald Trump ran an openly racist campaign for president, calling Mexicans rapists and criminals, regularly retweeting white supremacists and at least initially balking at repudiating former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke. Trump made it clear in his campaign that “Make America Great Again” meant that America was greater when white people’s power was more sweeping and more secure. White voters approved of that message by a whopping 58 percent to 37 percent.

    Some politicians deny the evidence, no doubt because they don’t want to alienate white voters, including prejudiced ones. Other commentators try to parse whether Trump’s racism will be a winning strategy in 2020. Terry Smith, a visiting professor at the University of Baltimore School of Law, offers a different response in his new book, “Whitelash: Unmasking White Grievance at the Ballot Box.” Rather than excuse racist voters or try to figure out how to live with their choices, he argues that racist voting is not just immoral, but illegal. The government, Smith says, has the ability, and the responsibility, to address it.

    This sounds radical. But Smith argues that it’s in line with the Constitution and with years of court rulings. For example, Smith points out that racist appeals in union elections are illegal and that an election in which one side uses racist appeals can be invalidated by the National Labor Relations Board. Similarly, in the 2016 case PeΓ±a v. Rodriguez, the Supreme Court ruled that when a juror expresses overt bigotry, the jury’s verdict should be invalidated.

    “When voters go to the booth, they’re not expressing a mere personal preference,” Smith told me. According to Smith, voters who pull the levers to harm black people are violating the Constitution. If the Constitution means that overt racist appeals undermine the legality of union elections, it stands to reason that they undermine the legality of other elections, as well.

    Shorter: Deplorables bad because Orange Man Bad.

    • Q Continuum

      “Trump made it clear in his campaign that β€œMake America Great Again” meant that America was greater when white people’s power was more sweeping and more secure”

      That’s a helluva stolen base you got there Lou.

    • sloopyinca

      Paraphrasing:
      “If we can’t win elections, we should steal them by any means necessary.”

      • AlexinCT

        NOBODY BUT MEMBERS OF TEAM BLUE WILL BE ALLOWED TO RULE!

    • invisible finger

      I’ll admit it’s true. When I voted in IL in 2016, I voted for Trump and against anyone who sounded Irish.

      • Naptown Bill

        Well they’re all drunks, and when they’re not stealing they’re beating their wives or their many children. They can’t help it.

    • leon

      Broke: One Man, One Vote!
      Woke: One Mane, One Candidate.

    • AlexinCT

      Shorter: Deplorables bad because Orange Man Bad.

      It’s more like orange man AND deplorables bad, because they are in the way of my power grabbing agenda that will allow me to loot and pillage the productive.

    • Not Adahn

      It’s simple logic:

      Racism is illegal.
      Republicans are racist.

      Therefore, Republicans are illegal.

    • Agent Cooper

      “initially balking at repudiating former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke.”

      Can this lie just die already?

  11. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloopy!

    There was no encore.

    Kind of sad, but kind of awesome at the same time. Pretty hardcore to die on stage. RIP

    I hope all of you have a fantastic day.

    • l0b0t

      Also, while sitting next to Amy Rigby. She is teh awesome.

    • Gadfly

      Kind of sad, but kind of awesome at the same time. Pretty hardcore to die on stage. RIP

      This. Bonus points for apologizing for not being able to finish the song before he took the final exit.

  12. Q Continuum

    Environazis must really be even more stupid than they seem; could they choose a less appealing spokesman than Gulag Greta?

    She’s ugly, condescending, rude and mentally ill. She’s also shitty at her “job”. If she’s not reading statements prepared by her handlers, she’s utterly incapable of interacting like a human being; because she’s mentally ill.

    As I said up thread, once people get rightly and truly tired of her shit and she’s no longer useful, she’ll be discarded like a used tampon and probably end up in a padded cell back in Swedistan.

    • Nikkodemus

      It’s just moving the Overton window. The more ridiculous things we hear from her, the less likely the population at large will resist a carbon tax as “a more sensible option”.

      • leon

        Yeah. She understands that the country isn’t as left as her so by reseting the “Normal” she gets to just be “Left” and everyone else is right or Far Right.

    • JD is Unemployed

      I’m not sure that autistic spectrum disorders count as being “mentally ill”, but there’s a strong tendency among such people to become obsessively and intensely focused on one particular thing (y’know, like ‘The Dog in the Nighttime’, and this facet of her has been exploited mercilessly by her handlers. If you want someone to go hard in the motherf$*&ing paint on one issue like that, you pick an autistic teenager, who is vastly compromised when it comes to having any intuition about at what point it might be a good idea to take a step back. She’s just hot housed with this stuff intensely by her handlers because they know this.

      • Naptown Bill

        ^This. People on the spectrum can make Buddhist monks look like disorganized scatterbrains. Add teenage hormones and a lifetime of conditioning and you get this shit.

      • AlexinCT

        I feel for this child, actually. She can’t help her compulsive behavior and the fact that she is not too bright and knowledgeable/educated enough to know she is peddling horseshit. I blame the evil fucking parents that are going along with her being used so they can profit from it.

    • Pope Jimbo

      To be fair she was a lot cuter a few years ago when she started this nonsense. She’s like a child TV star who got ugly as they grew up. But you dance with the autistic gal you brought to the dance.

      • Fourscore

        At least Save the Last Dance for her. It ain’t over ’til the music stops.

        If that’s all there is to her fire, I’m gonna keep on dancing.

    • bacon-magic

      I miss clicking on these.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    You know- racists

    Redlining refers to the federal government’s practice in the 1930s of rating neighborhoods to help mortgage lenders determine which areas of a city were considered risky. The federal Home Owners’ Loan Corporation made maps and shaded neighborhoods red that it deemed “hazardous.” That risk level was largely based on the number of African Americans and immigrants living there. The practice, along with the other segregationist housing policies of the time, had lasting effects β€” from concentrating poverty to stifling home ownership rates.

    You can still feel those effects β€” literally. Nearly 90 years after those maps were created, redlined neighborhoods are hotter than the highest-rated neighborhoods by an average of almost 5 degrees, according to the research from Portland State University, the Science Museum of Virginia and Virginia Commonwealth University.

    ——-

    “Research on environmental justice has yet to really try to understand how systems are at work that may cause inequities,” says Morgan Grove, a research scientist at the Forest Service’s Baltimore Field Station and co-author of the service’s study. “There are these explanations that require understanding history to understand why we see what we see today in cities.”

    ——-

    The 1968 Fair Housing Act prohibited ongoing housing discrimination, but it didn’t look backward on the damage already done, Rothstein says.

    “Unless explicit action is taken to subsidize people who are denied the right to move into those kinds of homes in the 20th century, to now subsidize them to move,” Rothstein says. “You can’t undo the damage. You need explicit policy, race-based policy. You need affirmative action in housing.”

    I see no practical or workable solutions offered, here. It’s just a bunch of wallowing in despair and self-pity. Don’t just moan about the problem, tell us in plain language how you propose to solve it. Spoiler Alert5: robbing Peter to house Paul is not viable in the long run.

    Whenever I see calls for redistributive justice in housing, I think of the part in Doctor Zhivago where the guy comes home to find fifty strangers squatting in his house. What do they think they’re going to do, just drive through suburban neighborhoods going, “Eenie meenie minie moe, this li’l cracker gots ta go”?

    • Q Continuum

      Shorter:

      GIBS ME DAT

    • sloopyinca

      Ok, fine. Anybody that can prove they tried to buy a home before 1968 and were denied based solely on their race gets a subsidy to buy the home they tried to buy then.

      In return, the government must acknowledge that its housing policies since 1968 have been a miserable failure.

      • Nephilium

        But some areas are HYPER-SEGREGATED! I mean why come landlords would deny tenants using vouchers for any reason other then racism (since no white people would get housing vouchers)!

    • l0b0t

      The 1968 Fair Housing Act prohibited ongoing housing discrimination, but it didn’t look backward on the damage already done, Rothstein says.

      You mean like Robert Moses bulldozing centuries old black neighborhoods in Manhattan and shipping all the black folk into high-rise projects out in the Rockaways after bulldozing all the working factories, hotels, houses, and amusement parks that once covered the peninsula?

      • robc

        Or building interstates thru ciities (generally dividing black neighborhoods) instead of on the tangent as originally planned.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Don’t start that shit! One of the perpetual grievances we hear about here in Minnesoda is the Rondo neighborhood and its elimination due to them building interstate 94 between Minneapolis and St. Paul.

        You still hear how racist it was to run a hiway right through the black neighborhood. But you have to ignore the fact that a) that is the most direct route between the two cities and b) it was cheap land.

        My guess is that if you had asked Rondo residents just prior to telling them that they were going to run a hiway through the neighborhood if they liked it there, they would have all told you how much they wanted to save up some money and move out.

      • robc

        between the two cities

        1. Didnt they already have a road connecting them?

        2. Arent they the same city already?

      • Pope Jimbo

        2. Arent they the same city alread?

        *Drops Tundra’s gloves and glares at robc*

        Bite your tongue! St. Paul is on the wrong side of the river and is in no way as cool as Minneapolis and its burbs.

      • robc

        Okay, looked at the map…how the hell did you end up with a 394, a 494, and a 694, instead of single loop road? It forms a single loop, why not 1 number like a reasonable city has?

        Also, my suggestion was to build that loop, then run 35 on the east or west side of the city and 94 on either the north or south to form half the loop. 494 or whatever number would complete the loop. Looks like east and north would have been the winners. No one driving from Milwaukee to Fargo wants to go THRU Minneapolis.

      • Gadfly

        But you have to ignore the fact that a) that is the most direct route between the two cities and b) it was cheap land.

        Infrastructure projects, like rivers, tend to follow the path of least resistance.

      • The Last American Hero

        There were black people in Minnesota? Fake news.

      • invisible finger

        Not all the black folk went into the high rises. Some were steered into blockbusting schemes.

    • Rhywun

      Shandas says the heat patterns seen in his study are likely the result of more concrete and fewer trees and green spaces in those hotter areas.

      I wonder how that came about. Must have been those shady, racist banks that herded the poors into public housing, “for their own good”.

    • R C Dean

      Alternate take: study proves redlining was justified.

      *ducks, runs*

      • invisible finger

        Some call it redlining because they don’t want you to know they were in on the gerrymandering scheme.

    • Suthenboy

      Other cultures sneer at our culture for having large, well kept lawns. They think it is a waste of effort.

      Also, those non-redlined neighborhoods have long since gone through the life cycle of housing and the ‘rich’ no longer live there. Those are now the hoods.
      Let’s hear some whining and bitching about gentrification now.

      A perfect example of ‘yeah, but what have you given me today?’

    • Agent Cooper

      Margaret Brennan is clearly useless.

    • PieInTheSky

      Demi-Leigh Nel-Peters – looks doable enough

    • Naptown Bill

      Good for him. He seems like a really decent guy. I always thought the ribbing he got in the NFL was an especially ugly piece of anti-Christian bigotry.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Making fun of the overly, professionally pious has something of a long history in Christianity.

        And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward.

        But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Overly should have been overtly, but I guess it works either way.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Don’t tell the Pentecostals that.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        I don’t think it was Christians who were attacking Tebow. Nonetheless, I’ve always preferred Russell Wilson’s devout Christianity which manifests in his charity work. He visits sick children at hospitals during the off season, which is not part of the charity work that the NFL mandates. He runs a separate charity to meet the NFL charity mandates. Good dude.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Lots of non-Christians attacked Tebow, but as for me and my (Christian) house, we couldn’t stand the fucker either. Mostly for the same reasons.

      • Q Continuum

        ^^^Nazi confirmed.

  14. The Late P Brooks

    was there any shooting? what are the fatalities?

    Innumerable.

  15. PieInTheSky

    This firearm may not look like much, but it is still very dangerous in the wrong hands. Thankfully @NYPDTransit
    officers from District 34 were able to recover it after breaking up a fight near their precinct and placed the known gang member who possessed it under arrest.

    https://twitter.com/NYPDnews/status/1219243339750498305

    Police twitting this shit is just embarrassing, irrespective of views on weapons. Not as bad as the Brits with potato peelers, but still

    • Nikkodemus

      6 cops for 1 gun? And they all look so proud of themselves…

    • JD is Unemployed

      At this point there must be enough of these for a nice coffee table book titled something like ‘Proud Police Confiscations’.

    • Naptown Bill

      young mall grip
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      Replying to @NYPDnews @NYPDTransit
      He was about to rob a store talkin bout β€œHere ye here ye”

      That’s the funniest thing I’ll read all day.

    • robc

      It was dangerous, as a hammer.

      • Fourscore

        Its the New Model, hammerless, as you can see. That’s where the danger lies, not old style

    • Rebel Scum

      They’re right. It looks like it would explode if shot.

      • l0b0t

        What part of that thing is going to strike the primer. Don’t get me wrong, I love my Airweights but I’m pretty sure that thing is meant to have a hammer.

      • Sean

        Meh, who needs a hammer and a mainspring?

      • l0b0t

        At this point, I’m genuinely curious as to how/why a gang-affiliated youth in NYC came to be in possession of such a thing. Kel-Tec and Glock seem to be the popular brands amongst the kids here.

      • Jarflax

        Cops cheaped out on drop gun, news at 11.

      • l0b0t

        Just another example of the Transit Police having to make do, while the real NYPD get all the new toys.

    • Agent Cooper

      All about the R-A-T-I-O.

      • UnCivilServant

        That’s just past the patio. Watch for the traps.

  16. Rebel Scum

    I do not inhabit the same reality as this person.

    “We don’t have a left party in the United States. The Democratic Party is not a left party,” she said, receiving applause from the audience. “The Democratic Party is a center or a center-conservative party.”

    “We can’t even get a floor vote on Medicare-for-allβ€”not even a floor vote that gets voted down,” she continued. “We can’t even get a vote on it. So this is not a left party. There are left members inside the Democratic Party that are working to try to make that shift happen.”

    • AlexinCT

      These people really believe that if you tell the big lie with enough conviction, it will be so.

    • leon

      She’s just trying to push what is acceptable. If she says she’s just “Left” then everyone else needs to shift to the “center”

  17. JD is Unemployed

    Extreme shitheading.

    Even the Bee couldn’t produce something this quintessentially smarmy. Best sit down and have something cheery lined up to take the edge off afterwards, before you read this.

    • PieInTheSky

      It is pretty bad not to be available in European countries

      • JD is Unemployed

        Do you even VPN, Pie?

      • PieInTheSky

        Not at work I don’t.

      • JD is Unemployed

        In case you actually wanted to read it and aren’t just riding me ‘cuz you’re still salty that I forgot you were Hungarian*:

        Column: Virginia gun rally shows I might be doing this whole β€˜white man’ thing wrong

        As I watched thousands of white men proudly spend Martin Luther King Jr. Day toting firearms down the streets of Virginia’s capital city, angrily protesting proposed gun laws supported by a large majority of the state’s residents, I reached an inescapable conclusion: I might be white-man-ing incorrectly.

        The Monday protest seemed to highlight my many failings as a white man in his late 40s. For example, I have spent most of my adult life thinking it would be, at the very least, rude for a civilian to carry an assault rifle around in public, even if that civilian had the right to do so.

        Apparently I was mistaken. Monday’s rally showed that a large adult male holding a high-powered weapon in public while demanding something most people oppose is the purest expression of freedom and patriotism and not, as I previously suspected, a selfish display aimed at making others feel threatened and uncomfortable.

        How I could be so wrong is beyond me.

        Jeff Hulbert, of a Maryland group called Patriot Picket, which describes itself as β€œDefenders of Liberty and the 2nd Amendment,” described Monday’s protest to the Washington Post: β€œThis is the Woodstock of the 2nd Amendment.”

        Now I’ve missed Woodstock twice.

        What brought pro-gun protesters, militia members, conspiracy theorists and a sprinkling of neo-Nazis to Richmond, Virginia, is gun control legislation proposed by the state’s newly Democratic-controlled General Assembly. The legislation, which I idiotically thought sounded sensible, includes:

        A one-handgun-purchase-per-month limit.
        Universal background checks on gun sales.
        Language that allows localities to ban guns in some public places.
        A β€œred flag” law that would help authorities remove guns from anyone deemed dangerous to themselves or others.

        Turns out I should view those ideas as β€œtyranny.” I regret the error.

        The other fundamental error I made was not realizing that the views of a small number of predominantly white, male gun worshippers should take precedent over everyone else’s view.

        Democrats took control of the state legislature and the governor’s office on a platform of tougher gun laws.

        A September Washington Post-Schar School poll found 88% of Virginians support expanding background checks and 82% support β€œred flag” legislation. The poll also showed that more than 80% of Republicans, Democrats and independents support universal background checks.

        Some of that thinking might have been spurred by actual data. The gun-control advocacy group Gun Violence Archive reported Monday that in the first 20 days of the new year, there have been: 763 gun deaths; 1,427 gun injuries; 28 children ages 11 and younger shot; 150 kids and teenagers ages 12 to 17 shot; 15 police officers shot; and 14 mass shootings.

        Just Sunday night, two people were killed and 15 wounded when a gunman fired at a line of people waiting outside a bar in Kansas City, Missouri, to celebrate the Super-Bowl-bound Kansas City Chiefs’ victory.

        But in the face of overwhelming evidence that America has a violence problem exacerbated by readily available firearms, and that the clear desire of most Americans is to see tighter restrictions on firearms, Monday’s Virginia rally showed that neither of those things should matter to white men who like guns.

        Which brings us back to my incorrect white-man-ing. To better fall in line with the examples set by these pro-gun protesters, I put together a to-do list:

        Stop being a liberal weenie and recognize that, as a white man in America, I am the victim. (This can be applied to anything that isn’t handled in the exact way I want it to be handled, be it gun control, impeachment, the #MeToo movement, political correctness etc …)
        Begin to fear everything EXCEPT gatherings of thousands of predominantly white men carrying large and intimidating firearms in public spaces.
        Purchase an unnecessarily large and intimidating firearm and then get mad that I can’t purchase more unnecessarily large firearms faster.
        Wear camouflage in places where it makes me stick out rather than blend in, like on the streets of a state’s capital city on Martin Luther King Jr. Day.
        Equate my right to protest while carrying an unnecessarily large, intimidating firearm to all other forms of protest in which people don’t carry large firearms, and refuse to acknowledge the difference.
        Speak endlessly about my love of freedom and democracy while ignoring any outcomes arrived at freely and democratically that get in the way of me purchasing more firearms and carrying them wherever I want.
        Respect the strength and patriotism of thousands of white men carrying firearms through the streets while not admitting that I might have a wholly different opinion if those firearm-carrying men were predominantly nonwhite.

        Hopefully this list will get me more β€œin sync” with the Virginia protesters. If I read Monday’s rally right, I’m entitled to be well-armed and unreasonable.

        Why the heck have I waited so long?

        rhuppke@chicagotribune.com

        *jk

      • PieInTheSky

        I was never salty just amazed….

      • bacon-magic

        He’s going for the jugular JD watch out! *throws garlic

      • Jarflax

        He’s English, we’re all wogs to him.

      • l0b0t

        He’s English, we’re all wogs to him.

        Can confirm.

      • JD is Unemployed

        He’s going for the jugular JD watch out! *throws garlic

        Ever since the great faux pas of 19th Jan, I’ve been taking an intravenous garlic and holy water infusion to render myself unpalatable.

        He’s English, we’re all wogs to him.

        Bloody turncoats is what you are! Insurrection in the colonies! George III won’t stand for it! For King and Country, men!

      • bacon-magic

        I am the victim

        Okay

    • Rebel Scum

      Turns out I should view those ideas as β€œtyranny.” I regret the error.

      Well, I’m glad you learned something, you condescending pos.

      The other fundamental error I made was not realizing that the views of a small number of predominantly white, male gun worshippers should take precedent over everyone else’s view.

      Except it is not a small number. And of course any group is likely to be “predominantly white”. That’s called being the majority, you disingenuous cunte. Additionally, the thing that actually takes precedent over peoples views is the governments founding charter, which prohibits the proposed measures. So, kindly fuck off.

      • Jarflax

        Precedence goddamn it! Something happening or being decided creates a precedent for future situations. You give precedence to something that you regard as superior or more important.

  18. The Late P Brooks

    I’ve come to see being racist as sort of like believing the Earth is flat, or that storks deliver babies. There’s nothing inherently hateful about it, it’s just ignorance

    Nice.

  19. Rebel Scum

    No, David. That is not how it works.

    VA is in a state of emergency because white supremacists and nazi’s are using their 2nd amendment rights to shutdown the 1st amendment rights of students, veterans, and clergy.
    Tweet out a video with your support for laws that protect kids, not guns with.

    Related.

    • Tundra

      Nazi’s what?

    • Q Continuum

      “using their 2nd amendment rights to shutdown the 1st amendment rights of students, veterans, and clergy”

      There’s a lotta stupid packed into that sentence. Lotta stupid.

    • Naptown Bill

      David and Greta should get together and tour. It would be like the Travelling Wilburys of insufferable teenagers.

      • invisible finger

        More like the Milli Vanilli of them. Mouthing stuff neither of them wrote.

    • leon

      Look, they arent biased. Biased is when you have a story and you throw in your narrative. They have a narrative, and now they are trying to write a story around that. There was nothing white supremacist about the march, but they have a narrative and so that is what the story will be.

  20. The Late P Brooks

    “Our house is still on fire. Your inaction is fueling the flames by the hour, and we are telling you to act as if you loved your children above all else,” the young campaigner said.

    Some children are more loveable than others, sweetie. Now run along and play on your phone, or something.

    • Shirley Knott

      β€œNow run along and play on your phone in traffic, or something.”
      FTFY

    • JD is Unemployed

      With the way the first line rhymed, I was reading that as a rap.

    • Nikkodemus

      I wasn’t aware eucalyptus gave such nasty heartburn….

    • Rebel Scum

      I’m not against gun ownership. But

      Uh huh…

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      Did anyone really expect the same people who went full on “bake the cake” to somehow stand firm on guns? I mean, the LP nominated Weld as VP, which could have been dismissed as a one off occurrence, if it weren’t for the fact that they are now flirting with nominating Lincoln Chaffee.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        If the Mises Caucus seizes control of the LP and ousts the controlled opposition than they will be worth voting for. If not, though, gun owners will reach the same calculus that many religious people have: the Republicans are better than the alternative.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Sorry, I can’t support anyone that uses a landing page on their website in 2020.

      • Akira

        Haha yea. All it’s missing is frames, a ton of gifs, and a hit counter at the bottom.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      In the end, Reason writers end up being run of the mill progressives.

      Truly disappointing.

      • invisible finger

        Proof that Mises was right about there not being a third way.

    • Agent Cooper

      I have a place where I keep knives out in the open in my house but I’ve never stabbed anyone.

  21. Rebel Scum

    The Russians are at it again.

    In a narrative strikingly similar to the alleged Russian hack of the Democratic National Committee, the news media has been pushing a story citing a cybersecurity firm saying it discovered Russian military spies hacked into Burisma, the Ukrainian gas company at the center of the impeachment campaign targeting President Donald Trump.

    The alleged Russian hackers β€œcould be searching for potentially embarrassing material on the Bidens” reported the New York Times, which first broke the story citing Area 1’s findings. Burisma paid Hunter Biden as a board member while Joe Biden boasted on video about personally threatening to withhold loan guarantees from Ukraine unless a prosecutor investigating Burisma was removed.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      It’s clear that these people are not engaged in “journalism” any more.

      • AlexinCT

        WE WILL DOUBLE DOWN ON THE LIES & STUPID AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!

    • AlexinCT

      I dip mine in sauces occasionally, but then I make my girlfriends lick them to taste the new taste….

    • ChipsnSalsa

      Maybe we can get someone to try some wasabi sauce or something spicy like that.

      Where is MikeS?

      • MikeS

        Ow! My balls!

    • sloopyinca

      Agreed. That’s a special beer.

    • Nephilium

      North Coast is one of the breweries that I need to make a point to purchase more frequently. All of their beers are solid, and usually overlooked today.

      • Bob, Builder of things

        I only look past them right now, pricey stuff, but truly great beer

    • UnCivilServant

      Who does that? You split the binding and you’re going to be shedding pages in short order. That’s the act of a savage.

      • UnCivilServant

        Also, if you’re so damn concerned about the weight and bulk, get a damn eReader.

    • invisible finger

      ebooks are even more portable.

    • Nephilium

      You know who else destroyed books?

      • Rhywun

        Guy Montag?

      • Q Continuum

        K-12 school systems in the United States in 2020?

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Publishers of modern, bang-flipping, homely-girl-pining-over-two-boys YA?

      • invisible finger

        Dennis DeConcini (D–AZ) on February 22, 1991?

    • sloopyinca

      If you cut a kindle in half, doesn’t it damage the screen?

    • Jarflax

      Rhiannon L Cosslett
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      Replying to @alex_christofi
      I really like this Alex, and am completely ok with it. In fact it undercuts (tish boom) their hubris in writing such a bloody long book in the first place

      Writing a long book shows hubris?

      • UnCivilServant

        Well, since they can’t muster more than 280 characters of text at a time, anyone who writes more must be showing off, and writing a doorstopper has got to be hubristic.

      • Not Adahn

        Yes. Look who writes long books:

        Example 1: GRRM
        Example 2: Ayn Rand.

        Both wypipo. Checkmate.

        …hubris does mean white, right?

      • Mojeaux

        *ahem*

        Forgot someone?

      • Annoyed Nomad

        War, What is it Good For

    • Mojeaux

      Book art #FTW!

      There are very few things more beautiful than beat-up, dog-eared, highlighted, margin-notated, coffee-spilled-on book. Bonus for hardback.

      • UnCivilServant

        A well loved book is a beautiful thing, but what people did to those books in those pictures…

        *curls up and weeps*

      • Mojeaux

        Dude, there are millions of useless books in this world. Textbooks, for example. They do go out of date and there they sit collecting dust because no one wants them.

        There are millions of works of fiction scanned into Google archives of books that haven’t been checked out since the Coolidge administration, yet there they sit begging to be checked out, but no one ever will.

        l0b0t was distressed the other day that he was going to have to trash 1500 books because he couldn’t give them away.

        What would you RATHER be done with them? Are you going to take them in?

        What’s wrong with making art out of art? People are so incredibly creative and what they make is beautiful. I can’t even imagine why someone would rather a book be tossed in a landfill rather than be turned into something lovely.

      • Rhywun

        I collect old language textbooks πŸ™‚

      • UnCivilServant

        I was lying earlier when I tried not to be disturbed by people who took notes in books or dog-eared pages. The very idea of disrespecting books of any type generates a strong negative reaction. It could be a copy of “What Happened” and I’d not be able to stand it. Seeing such damage triggers a visceral horror as if it had been done to the flesh of a person.

        No, I don’t have a practical answer, and yes, I’d love to hoard books in great heaping quantities if I could.

        tldr – I’m odd.

      • l0b0t

        Do you want drive down and take these thousands of books off my hands before they end up going to 1-800-Junk? I’ll sweeten the pot with a sizable collection of GW /Citadel products.

      • UnCivilServant

        If I could. πŸ™

        At the moment I’m still living in a shoebox.

      • Rhywun

        Those junk people will donate the books, right? They don’t just toss them out.

      • UnCivilServant

        Nope. They’re doomed.

      • Mojeaux

        Actually, no, you are not odd. My anecdata informs me that you are in the majority amongst book lovers and I am the odd one out.

        Then again, I love ephemera. I would rather see a dog-eared book and know that it is loved by its owner that much that it warrants the time and thought of making notes and referring back to it again and again.

        I will refrain from telling you what I did with a couple of my books and why.

        It’s an homage, a piece of the reader’s soul, an honor to the writer that he could inspire such time and effort.

        Book art, such as lovingly carved and formed whales and ships wrought from and embedded in an old copy of Moby Dick is beautiful.

  22. UnCivilServant

    There’s been a dearth of Brexit news, and the latest deadline is coming up.

    Are they finally going to be out? Is it a clean Brexit (ie, no deal)?

      • UnCivilServant

        Thanks. I missed that.

    • leon

      clearly the whole vote needs to be challenged, because the people who voted to leave are clearly racists and that can’t be allowed.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    FIRE TORPEDOES!

    Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D) attacked Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in an upcoming documentary as her former 2016 rival sits among the top Democratic contenders in several early 2020 presidential primary contests.

    In an interview with The Hollywood Reporter published Tuesday, reporter Lacey Rose read a quote Clinton gave filmmakers for the as-yet-unreleased Hulu documentary exploring the 2016 campaign, in which Clinton targeted Sanders’s Senate record.

    “In the doc, you’re brutally honest on Sanders: ‘He was in Congress for years. He had one senator support him. Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done. He was a career politician. It’s all just baloney and I feel so bad that people got sucked into it,'” Rose said, quoting Clinton. “That assessment still hold?”

    “Yes, it does,” Clinton responded.

    She later refused to confirm whether she would endorse or campaign for Sanders should he win the Democratic nomination this year.

    “I’m not going to go there yet. We’re still in a very vigorous primary season,” Clinton said of a possible endorsement of his campaign.

    “I will say, however, that it’s not only him, it’s the culture around him. It’s his leadership team. It’s his prominent supporters. It’s his online Bernie Bros and their relentless attacks on lots of his competitors, particularly the women,” she continued.

    “And I really hope people are paying attention to that because it should be worrisome that he has permitted this culture β€” not only permitted, [he] seems to really be very much supporting it,” Clinton concluded.

    She cannot say whom she will support. She’s awaiting a call.

    • invisible finger

      She’s awaiting a sack of cash.

    • leon

      Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D) attacked Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in an upcoming documentary as her former 2016 rival sits among the top Democratic contenders in several early 2020 presidential primary contests.

      I wonder if Bernie feels like a complete shithead for endorsing and then doing 30+ stumps for her around the country.

    • Rhywun

      The MSM are really pushing this narrative that came out of left field that “Bernie Bros” are “anti woman”. Must be part of their Warren campaign.

      • leon

        At this point if Warren, by some miracle, get’s the nomination, she’s done enough damage to ensure she has no chance of winning the general.

      • invisible finger

        And it will all be because Trump hates women.

      • invisible finger

        Left field? It started in 2016 when Bernie actually had support which Hilary and other DNCers though rightly belonged to her. The idea that Bernie supporters were only men wasn’t even true (as my niece would tell you).

    • kbolino

      The balls on that woman. A lifelong politician of no notable accomplishment throwing stones at another?

      • Mojeaux

        Whether her questionable accomplishments were ill-gotten or not, she’s got more than Bernie.

    • Agent Cooper

      She’s not wrong, re: Bernie.

  24. leon

    Question. If we could show that the world would be better off if all utilitarians were to die… would any of them follow the moral conclusions of the ethical philosophy they push?

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      Malthus’ death would have been for the greater good

    • PieInTheSky

      Well you could not show that so this is one of those excessively unlikely thought experiments

      • leon

        Proving so would be trivial

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      Define utilitarian.

      I would expect (us) Rule Utilitarians to say no that’s stupid, and I would expect Act Utilitarians to come up with some kind of special pleading that gives them exactly what they wanted all along and the intellectual cover to do so without losing status in their social circle.*

      *I cheated. This is what all utilitarians do when faced with a bad idea supported by act-based utilitarian-supported stupid ideas.

      • leon

        How would you define a “Rule Utilitarian” vs an “Act Utilitarian”. I think i have some idea, but want to get your explanation.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        1) I didn’t make up the terms:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_utilitarianism
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_utilitarianism

        2) I’m not an expert on this, but my understanding is that Act Utilitarianism is the utilitarians that looks at each individual act or choice, runs a util function to find the outcome with the most (maximal or highest average) utils ad says take that.

        Rule Utilitarianism is the utilitarians that looks at human nature, society, and probability and constructs/follows generally applicable rules that, if *every* *everywhere* *under all circumstances* follows these rules, you will get more utils (maximal or highest average) than any other rule set.

        3) Consider the starving child stealing a loaf of bread. Act Utilitarianism says “well, the starving child get infinite utils because they live, while the baker gets negative some-number-less-than-infinite utils, so the child is right to steal the bread.”

        Rule Utilitarians might naively say “Perfect private property produces the most utils, so the child should starve to death instead of stealing the bread.”

        A more sophisticated Rule Utilitarian would say “Private property in many cases produces many utils, but a rule that requires dead children can probably be improved upon. So the generally applicable “don’t steal” rule should have a clause for starving children to steal just enough to survive, they they owe a debt to the baker.” They they all sit up until 3:00 AM in the morning arguing about what level of rule complexity leads to bad outcomes.

        3) Superman is an Act Utilitarian, Batman is a Rule Utilitarian.

        4) Everyone wants to be an Act Utilitarian them self, but wants everyone else to be a Rule Utilitarian.

      • leon

        I didn’t mean to imply that you had made the terms up. Yeah it would be harder to make an argument that a Rule Utilitarian would accept as a legitimate one for why they should stop existing. But Trivial for an Act Utilitarian.

        My main point was a bit of snark. The guy who wrote the “It is illegal for Racists to vote” article, calls himself a Utilitarian, and so i was kinda riffing on how i think a lot of “Utilitarians” are really just autocrats who want to rule and give it a veneer of morality.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Oh yeah, self proclaimed Utilitarians are usually pieces of shit, demanding they be respected for their fierce moral superiority while pining after the liquidation of yucky people.

      • Mojeaux

        The women’s studies professor I have talked about before (the one who didn’t get Labyrinth called me a utilitarian once.

        That may be true. I don’t see why this is a bad thing.

      • Jarflax

        Moral relativism always seems suspect to those of us who believe in more absolute right and wrong. Utilitarianism is relativism.

      • Mojeaux

        I am a “X is immoral; therefore, I will not do it. HOWEVER, I vam understand why someone would do it.” type person. This is why I may do something immoral, acknowledge that it is immoral, and take my chances with God.

        This applies even to things that are not illegal; for instance, I believe that declaring bankruptcy is immoral. It’s what’s kept us from doing it ten years ago. And yet, here I am. My brother sees it as a business decision. I still see not paying my bills as dishonorable at best and immoral.

        But here I am, doing something I feel is immoral so as to keep a roof over my family’s heads.

      • Mojeaux

        Actually, for me and my personal ethos, dishonorable is far more shameful than immoral.

      • Jarflax

        That isn’t utilitarianism. that is being a human being.

    • Jarflax

      Doesn’t proposing this seem to indicate utilitarianism? Or at minimum moral relativism of some stripe? I think there is a logical tailspin lurking in this idea.

      • UnCivilServant

        Any proposal will typically involve some utility, be it amusement of the proposer or just ridding of an irritant, it’s impossible to ask people to completely avoid.

      • Jarflax

        I think proposals that encourage mass suicide deserve heightened scrutiny.

      • leon

        Of course, but that is the point of my question. If a utilitarian believes that what is Moral is what brings the greatest good for the greatest number of people (and assuming we are working on a common definition of what that means), then if i could show that killing himself does this, it doesn’t mean i think it’s right, only that i’m working in the ethical framework of the person i’m talking with to make the point.

        My point being that “Most utilitarians wouldn’t eat the costs that they think everyone else should pay, if they thought that they would have to bear the highest burden”

    • kbolino

      Well, first you’d have to get a utilitarian to apply the same calculus to himself. Shallow thinkers are dime a dozen, but they each think they’re very special.

  25. Raston Bot
  26. Pope Jimbo

    Uffda. Local Minnesoda prog rag is troubled that Canadian racists entered Minnesoda to cause havoc in VA.

    Lots and lots of stupid quotes in this one.

    According to charges unsealed on Thursday, the FBI arrested Mathews and two other members of The Base in Maryland. They’d allegedly been en route to a pro-gun rally in Richmond, Virginia, and had cobbled together a homemade assault rifle and amassed hundreds of rounds of ammunition.

    WTF? Do these dumb assholes not know it is easier to get a gun than a book? Why would they need to cobble shit together?

    • Pope Jimbo

      Mathews could face a maximum of 10 years in prison if he’s convicted of transporting a gun with intent to commit a felonyβ€”and another 10 if he’s convicted of being an illegal alien possessing a firearm and ammunition. Meanwhile, his friends Lemley and Bilbrough could face a maximum of five years for transporting him.

      I’d like to know how often other illegal aliens are charged with possessing a firearm. Or how many people are charged with transporting illegal aliens. This sure stinks of “show me the man and I’ll show you the crime”.

      • AlexinCT

        There are no illegal aliens! Hence none are charged with any crimes, you fool!

    • Pope Jimbo

      Some have commented that they were β€œsurprised” how far Mathews got without being detected. For others, that surprise verges on disappointment.

      β€œIf Mathews had… pledge[d] allegiance to a group like ISIS, there would have been a much more intent manhunt for him,” Joshua Fischer-Birch of the New York-based Counter Extremism Project told CBC. β€œHopefully, with this arrest, groups like The Base will be at the forefront of law enforcement efforts on domestic terrorism here in the United States.”

      As much as our Deep State dreams of being able to achieve the granularity needed to track everyone at all times, they aren’t quite there yet. And since these jerks drove, how exactly did people expect them to be detected? And yeah, losers in The Base are totes just as dangerous as ISIS.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      Trust the FBI

      • AlexinCT

        And the FISA courts too!

    • l0b0t

      Matt Christiansen, on his podcast, mentioned that this incident actually occurred several months ago and is just now becoming public. According to his reporting, the ONLY mention of ANY plans to go to VA come from a NYT article and there is nothing about Virginia or a rally (that had not even been planned at the time of the arrest) in any of the FedGov documents.

  27. PieInTheSky

    Never feel more female that when men display an interest in colonizing the moon.

    I’m not just like “That’s expensive. We have bigger problems on Earth.”

    I cannot fathom their interest. If the moon were in Long Island and free to visit I might not go.

    https://twitter.com/AliceFromQueens/status/1219459846401069056

    Which one of ya bastards wants to colonize the damn moon? Is it the patriarchy or the toxic masculinity that makes you wanna do it?

    • leon

      well the Moon is a harsh Mistress, so i can see why she’s a bitch about it.

      • Nephilium

        But we can throw rocks at them…

      • UnCivilServant

        All the more reason to deny the moon to anyone else!

    • Tundra

      I cannot fathom their interest.

      I suspect they are counting on that, toots.

    • Jarflax

      Getting away from her is part of the appeal.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    Which one of ya bastards wants to colonize the damn moon?

    I might consider it, if we were using Australia as the template. There are a lot of people I’d be happy to designate as colonists.

  29. Enough About Palin

    ” I want all poor people in developing countries to die because I’m an idiot.”

    Why is this useless cunte even there?

    • Nikkodemus

      Because muh feelingz!!!!

    • Rhywun

      Collective guilt. The attendees love this shit. Plus, buttering us up for more socialism.

  30. Rebel Scum
  31. The Late P Brooks

    Why is this useless cunte even there?

    The “Baby Trump” balloon had a previous engagement.

  32. Pope Jimbo

    Maybe the Minnesoda GOP isn’t as dumb as I thought.

    Republicans who control the Minnesota Senate are formulating a package of pro-gun measures for the upcoming session of the Legislature, including proposals to carry firearms without a permit and protect gun owners who fire in self-defense.

    The GOP bills taking shape just weeks before the Legislature convenes stand in sharp contrast to DFL plans to expand criminal background checks and institute “red flag” laws allowing the courts to temporarily remove guns from people deemed dangerous to themselves and others.

    The anti-gun yahoos are already in districts that reliably vote DFL. This will really squeeze a lot of the DFL house members who live in rural Minnesoda who were elected on a host of other issues (the Iron Range has been reliably pro-union DFL). I’m guessing a lot of gun owners in Minnesoda have seen what goes on in VA and will make gun control a top issue in the next election.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Despite the protests, Mikesell pointed to Virginia as an important example of grassroots activism creating political support for new gun laws.

      “When there’s legislation out there that has a lot of evidence that it works, we want our legislators to take action,” Mikesell said. “And as Virginia has shown us, if they don’t take action we will work to elect legislators who will take action.”

      Doar meanwhile cited the pro-gun protest in Virginia as “an excellent indicator of what we can expect in Minnesota if there is total control in the hands of anti-gun Democrats.”

    • Tundra

      There is a Senate Judiciary Committee meeting up in Hibbing today. That used to be the heart of the DFL, so it will be interesting to see how many people turn out.

      • Tundra
      • Pope Jimbo

        Yup. That meeting in Hibbing was part of the story I linked as well. The local gun control nuts are already sniffing at it:

        Gun safety activists and Democrats such as state Sen. Ron Latz, DFL-St. Louis Park, are meanwhile dismissing the public gathering in Hibbing as a “political show hearing.”

        “I think they finally feel like they’re boxed in and they’ve got to make it look like they’re proactive,” said Latz, who is sponsoring new background check and red flag legislation for the 2020 Legislature.

        I have to hand it to Warren Limmer (my state Senator). He’s been really good on a lot of stuff for the last few years (fought Real ID forever and now guns). I would never have pegged him for that tenacity after meeting with him.

    • Q Continuum

      If Trump can run up the score in NoMinn he has a legitimate chance of stealing the state.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        The rage and weeping in the metro would be something to see…

  33. leon

    I’m not typically one to push the “You’re being racist against White People” cause i think it’s generally a dumb unproductive argument. But damn it is pretty telling that the think piece writers think saying “A bunch of white people” marching for their rights will somehow make it seem worse. The idea of course being that “white men” are uniquely evil in a way that other groups arent, and everyone just knows it.

    Of course the left doesn’t have a problem with large groups of white people, i mean look at a Elizabeth warren rally.

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      I used to feel the same way. I think that ship has sailed. Treating white men (and to a lesser extent white women) like trash due exclusively to their gender and race is permissible among our intellectual betters in a way that is not permissible for any other group.

  34. Cy

    “Ragucci, 64, was a police officer in Oakbrook Terrace for 25 years before being elected mayor, and he touted his quarter century with a badge as prepping him for life as an Illinois mayor.”

    It sure did!

  35. Gadfly

    In which case, how dare you people not celebrate MLK Jr. Your countries are racist.

    It is guaranteed that someone out there actually believes this. If anyone had a troll twitter account, it would have been funny to put this sentiment up yesterday and see the reaction.

  36. pan fried wylie

    westernsloper on January 20, 2020 at 6:57 pm
    …strategernasticalnanicifacation…

    *Chef’s Kiss*

    • ChipsnSalsa

      Use some good lubricant.

    • Pope Jimbo

      I would have thought that pop would cover up the taste of roofies just as well as alcohol.

      • UnCivilServant

        No, I don’t think a quick punch to the face would cover any tastes.

      • Not Adahn

        Of course it will. Blood’s coppery taste can mask quite a bit.

      • Q Continuum

        True, but it doesn’t have the same synergistic effect so I have to use more to get the same result.

  37. leon

    Song of the Day

    Reminds you that you can’t win them all…

  38. "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

    AOC asked why the police weren’t in heavier numbers at the VA gun protest yesterday.

    How could it be that the Left learned nothing from the Black Panthers?

    • UnCivilServant

      Because the study of history and facts has never been their strong suit.

    • leon

      I do like all the claims, without evidence, that this was a white supremacist rally.

      • Q Continuum

        Repeat it enough times, it becomes the truth. It’s depressingly effective.

      • Rebel Scum

        I haven’t checked, but I full expect NPCNN and MSDNC to run with a few images of people in camo with AR’s and twist it into some “white-nationalist, gun extremist” narrative.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Just go to their preferred source for commentary

        Tard Tuesday: Bitter Clingers

        As a gray-haired white man with some familiarity with firearms, today’s gathering in Richmond,
        Virginia is embarrassing. It would be giving these misfits too much credit to call them “punks”. They are vacuous strutters snarling practiced false talking points before breaking into ear-to-ear grins when someone admires their penis substitute.

        I did not see one weapon carried at this “rally” that was not designed to kill PEOPLE. There were no bird guns; no bolt action deer rifles. There were, however, plenty of “mow ’em down” pieces.

        And, what can one say about the “GI Joe” costumes”? Lots of camo; bullet-proof vests; bandoliers; Kevlar helmets and, of course, assorted “edged weapons”. Several of these “warriors”, however, could barely fit into there “can’t see me suits” due to the extra fifty pounds or so of belly they were carrying in addition to their weapons.

        All in all, these people sucked big time. And, since nearly all of the idiots were white men, I felt the need to state my hope that they will not be considered representative of the rest of us.

      • Q Continuum

        “since nearly all of the idiots were white men”

        THEY’RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE OPINIONS

      • R C Dean

        And, what can one say about the β€œGI Joe” costumes”?

        Militia, as God and the Founders intended.

        I did not see one weapon carried at this β€œrally” that was not designed to kill PEOPLE. There were no bird guns; no bolt action deer rifles.

        IOW, weapons suitable for a militia. Also, nice stolen base there on what are “acceptable” firearms.

        since nearly all of the idiots were white men,

        Look harder.

      • Rebel Scum

        Militia, as God and the Founders intended.

        Personally, I found it silly and unnecessary to show up dressed that way and carrying long guns. I believe VCDL even specifically asked people not to. That said, it is one’s right to be outfitted as such, as that is the point and purpose of 2A and citizens functioning as the militia.

      • Rebel Scum

        I did not see one weapon carried at this β€œrally” that was not designed to kill PEOPLE.

        I was under the impression that all weapons were designed to kill things.

        There were no bird guns; no bolt action deer rifles.

        You can’t kill a human with a bolt-action that fires a larger, more powerful round than the average scary, black rifle. It is known.

      • kbolino

        Sometimes I wonder if people are really this stupid or if I’m just willfully misreading what they wrote to make them seem stupider. In this case, I don’t think it’s the latter.

  39. Gadfly

    This is the New American Dream. It’s a touching story about a single family overcoming all obstacles to strike it rich. Well done!

    Technically that’s a very old dream, been happening since postmaster was the fattest post a government official could give their friends. It is funny, though, that it reinforces the narrative that the last straw that caused the Ds to impeach Trump was that he was going after their gravy trains. Selfless public servants all.

    • ChipsnSalsa

      postmaster was the fattest post a government official could give their friends

      If only that were still true. Now you get them to a upper management post in the BLM and they retire in 15 years with 150K year pension.

      • UnCivilServant

        You must hate your friends if you give them the low-paying jobs.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        This is where I have no connection to the reality of what is going on it the government. I’m sure my head would explode at the amounts of money people get paid and the retirement packages they receive upon their exit.

      • invisible finger

        Now about those expense accounts…

      • UnCivilServant

        You want to see some expense account bullshit, take a look at what Labour MPs charged in the UK. Sheer audacity there, especially since it’s a matter of public record, and you can find it online.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Through a friend of a friend, I met a family in NW Wyoming who managed to buy up most of a township. They have made bank by establishing various govt things like a post office for the township and then hiring family to run it.

      Really pretty amazing how much it adds up to.

  40. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Been up since 4am and this is the first time I’ve sat down at my computer. I love flu season when half the staff is out sick.

  41. UnCivilServant

    Goddammit! This has been on the books for years, but the official rules haven’t been published, so no one can actually make use of it. We need to just burn down any law that gives the government oversight over the manufacture of automobiles.

  42. Rebel Scum

    Words, they have no meaning.

    “It would certainly be fair for the president and his team to be able to call witnesses that can provide material information on the charges. It would not be appropriate for the president to seek to call witnesses merely to try to perpetuate the same smear campaign that was foiled when his plot was discovered,” Schiff, who is one of the impeachment managers, told CBS Evening News.

    “Hunter Biden, for example, can’t tell us anything about whether the president withheld military aid, whether he withheld that aid to coerce Ukraine to conduct political investigations,” he continued saying in a clip from the interview, which is set to air Tuesday evening. “Or why he wouldn’t meet with the president of Ukraine.”

    The California Democrat said Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, who is presiding over the Senate trial, may have to settle the issue of whether certain witnesses are heard.

    “The only purpose in putting him on their list is they wish to trade material witnesses, like Mr. Bolton and Mulvaney and others, for immaterial ones that will allow them to continue to attack a political opponent,” Schiff said. “That’s an illegitimate abuse of the trial. And the chief justice, who may have an opportunity to rule on materiality of witnesses, as well as the senators, should not permit that kind of abuse.”

    One would think that the content of the call, which included reference to Hunter Biden, would warrant investigation if one was engaged in accusing the president of malfeasance for inquiring on said content.

    • leon

      Schiff, The Most high minded and Fair of all our legislators.

      • AlexinCT

        This guy is giving Karla Marx a run for the tittle of stupid fuck.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Karla definitely has the tittle edge, but that is because she is juicing on estrogen. Only Schumer can dare to compete with her.

      • AlexinCT

        He is also juicing on estrogen from what I have been told, and his moobs make several of the ladies in congress jealous. And that includes that bitch Nadler, whose moobs are saggy.

  43. Pope Jimbo

    You know what would push WNBA numbers up even higher? Moar identity bullshit!

    Minnesoda Lynx coach vows to only hire women assistant coaches from now on.

    β€œWhen Muffet took that stance, the passion she spoke about, as much as I advocate for women, it dawned on me I was doing a poor job to the cause of more women in coaching, particularly the WNBA,” Reeve said.

    β€œBeing further along in my career, knowledge of society and how things are working, you get to the point where you say, she’s right. And until we take a drastic stance, drastic measures, what’s going to change, and what role did I have in it? It can’t just be Muffet. Drastic times called for drastic measures. I believe this is a crisis, and we have to treat it like a crisis.”

    I wholeheartedly agree with her right to discriminate by sex in her hiring practices. I hope that she is willing to extend the same courtesy to other employers.

    • Not Adahn

      Does she coach the morning or the afternoon team?

      • AlexinCT

        Is this some kind of crack on us lesbians? As a lesbian trapped in a man’s body I am very much attuned to fighting for our cause!

      • Not Adahn

        It was more an attempt to find out who’s in charge of the Lynx depending on the time of day, the day of the week, and whether or not someone’s on a meth and fried gator bender.

  44. The Late P Brooks

    Happy ending

    The homeless mothers who took over a vacant house in Oakland, California, and occupied it for almost two months will be allowed to purchase the property – a major victory in a movement working to keep such homes out of the possession of speculators.

    ——-

    Moms 4 Housing chose the Magnolia Street house in part to try to force Wedgewood to negotiate the sale of the home back to the community.

    β€œThis is what happens when we organize, when people come together to build the beloved community,” Dominique Walker, one of the mothers who lived in the house with her two children, said in a statement, on the day that America marked Martin Luther King Day. β€œToday we honor Dr King’s radical legacy by taking Oakland back from banks and corporations.”

    With the housing and homelessness crisis worsening each day, the mothers received widespread support for their cause, from local lawmakers to California’s governor, Gavin Newsom, who praised the activists.

    Moms 4 Housing had brought the issue to court, but a judge ruled in favor of Wedgewood. Sheriff deputies arrived in the early hours of 15 January to evict them, arresting two of the mothers and two of their supporters.

    Wedgewood has maintained that the mothers had committed a criminal act in breaking into the house, and the house legally belonged to the company.

    Rule of law? Fuck that. Property is theft. Even the governor of California agrees. Maybe he’ll designate the grounds of the governor’s mansion as a hobo jungle.

    No mention of the price tag, or where the money is coming from. Or what political favors were traded for that house.

    • invisible finger

      “a movement working to keep such homes out of the possession of speculators”

      The only reason such speculation could even exist is if the government has lots of barriers to new construction – including a dysfunctional property tax system that makes the math work out such that the carrying cost is low.

    • Rhywun

      “Speculation”

      You know, the process by which affordable housing was built in cities across the country before zoning outlawed it.

    • kbolino

      Hell, why not. Bring that collapse in tax revenue to the forefront. Give everybody a house, preferably somebody else’s. When the property values fall 10-100 fold, I’m sure you’ll be able to make up the loss in volume.

      • invisible finger

        If you like your slum, you can keep your slum.

      • kbolino

        Yeah, who am I kidding. They’ll find ways to shore up the sagging tax revenue, even if it means demolishing the slums they created in the first place.

  45. Q Continuum

    Is it just me, or are the Normals not paying the slightest bit of attention to the impeachment nonsense?

    I must admit that it’s kind of surreal to witness the concept being raped to death in front of our eyes, but as far as the substance goes it seems like it’s not even happening.

    • UnCivilServant

      Even the lefties around me are not paying the slightest whit of attention to the circus.

      • Not Adahn

        My Trump-hating parents (who will vote D in November) have stopped watching the news over this because the bias has gotten too absurd even for them.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Are you the black sheep in your family?

      • Not Adahn

        No, although I’m sure they wish I had given them more legitimate grandchildren.

        My mother has finally started acting as if he believes I’m not a Republican, so that’s nice.

    • PieInTheSky

      the Normals ? Is that supposed to be racist or sexist?

    • KSuellington

      Here in SF the impeachment theatre is barely even registering, it’s pretty funny. I have a substantial amount wagered on him making it through his first term that I will be happy to collect upon in November. Almost time to start goading some friends into wagers on who will win 2020.

    • Not Adahn

      Eh, considering he was kicked out of a commune for being lazy and unhygienic, she’s probably not lying this time.

    • wdalasio

      You know, it’s kind of pathetic how much of the political class basically sounds like high school kids. These people look down their noses at Donald Trump “lowering the standard of discourse”. But, the reality is that the standard of discourse was never really that developed. Sure they might use a little more flowery language, but the substance seems to me to have always been that of teenage cliques.

  46. "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

    https://twitter.com/GloriaPazmino/status/1219603607768764417

    “‘Go Back to Iowa’ β€” Brooklyn Borough President Rails Against Gentrification in Heated Speech”

    Considering that Iowa’s population continues to grow, while NY State’s population continues to decline, I’m not sure why he singled out IA and other Midwestern states. NJ seems like easy pickings and more logical. Brooklyn makes you dumb. Confirmed.

    • Q Continuum

      Such inclusive. Much tolerant.

    • UnCivilServant

      You don’t get gentrifying people coming from New Jersey. You get Jerseyites.

      *shudders*

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Every time I go to NYC, it’s always Manhattan. I once explored Williamsburg and it is way too hipster trash for me. I want to go where the guys wear dago t’s and swing baseball bats at you while yelling “git outta ear”. Where is that?

      • invisible finger

        Staten Island

      • Rhywun

        Other parts of Brooklyn.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        What part, Rhywun? You live in NYC, right? Any recommendations of places to visit for good food? I have to go every year for work and I want to get off Manhattan

      • Rhywun

        I don’t eat out πŸ™‚

        But you can’t go wrong in places like Park Slope or Carroll Gardens – tons of good restaurants. Not many baseball bats, though.

        That would be more my area (Bay Ridge), Bensonhurst, and the like. But they are a long haul from Manhattan.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        I’ll feel more at home around the baseball bat swinging crowd, so I think I’m going to take the hike next time.

        You may run into me. I’ll be the obnoxious guy who greets and extends pleasantries to people and demanding “pasta fazool”.

      • Rhywun

        Well, if you really want the full effect you have to head to Staten Island (as mentioned above) or Long Island.

      • l0b0t

        Peter Luger Steakhouse IS in WIlliamsburg but is very, very, very delicious. Get the bacon – thick cut, cooked in the Salamander 45 seconds @ 1300Β°F.

        Crown Heights has some amazing sushi at

      • l0b0t

        UGH… pressed post rather than submit.

        Gen is the great sushi. Owned and staffed by dreadlocked Japanese Rastafarians.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        I don’t know. When I went to Williamsburg I went to a bar that resembled an overturned canoe. At one point I asked the bartender why the place smelled like Vaseline and wine and she thought that was funny, but everything did smell like Vaseline. It was disgusting. I’d rather not congregate with hipsters. I don’t do it at home, so I’ll pass on it in another city.

        I’ll check out Crown Heights. I like sushi

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Just follow the IROCs and the alluring scent of sausage an pepper heroes. You’ll be sure to end up in Staten Island, Jersey City, or Fishtown before too long.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Over there! I just spotted a ruby-throated guido taking a cannoli home to it’s offspring!

      • Gustave Lytton

        I believe that’s IROC-Z

      • l0b0t

        Howard Beach, Queens. Well, really any part of Queens from JFK – South to the Atlantic coast.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Whatever you do, don’t raise the value of my property!

    • invisible finger

      I tried to point out the irony to my 23-year old niece from Boston who bitched about gentrification in her Fenway neighborhood (raised by her loopy Mom to read the day’s talking points without putting five second’s thought into them) – and then moved to Brooklyn.

    • Rhywun

      Racist POS is shoo-in for next mayor. Film at 11.

    • PieInTheSky

      I knew a girl from Iowa once. I asked her to bring me some corn as a souvenir when she went back home and instead she brought me a stupid book about Iowa curiosities.

      • invisible finger

        The book was corny.

      • UnCivilServant

        But the finale really popped.

      • invisible finger

        Now we understand why you tear books in half.

    • KSuellington

      I just did a job for a couple of well off lesbians (one white, one Indian) that just moved into my neighborhood. As we were discussing the area the white one complained about gentrification. I smiled and said I’m not very concerned about it.

      • PieInTheSky

        dot or feather?

      • KSuellington

        Dot

  47. Rebel Scum

    CNN suddenly cares about the rule of law, kindof.

    President Trump is surely the type of person the Founders had in mind when they granted the power to Congress to hold an abusive president — one who insists that he cannot be indicted for criminal activity or investigated for Constitutional misbehavior — in check.

    The Senate may try to quickly dispose of the Articles of Impeachment, and offer multiple justifications: the House investigation was unfair; the evidence obtained is insufficient to prove any wrongdoing; abuse of power and obstruction of Congress are not defined in the Constitution as impeachable offenses; and that it would be unfair for the Senate to take any action to remove the President with the presidential election just 10 months away.

    Central to our existence as a democratic country is the rule of law, the precept that declares that no one stands above its prohibitions and no one falls below its protections.

    The rule of law must be more than a mantra that we repeat but do not respect. It is the invisible thread woven into the Constitution that binds a diverse people together in the cause of protecting our collective security and preserving our personal freedoms.

    The American people have the right to elect a president who is crude, cruel and amoral, but Congress has the power and the duty to remove one who has corrupted his office by using it to serve his private ambitions.

    At least this piece is in the Opinion section. That’s something, I guess.

    • kbolino

      Going back to the right-wing trolls at Hit & Run, anybody who harps on about the “rule of law” long enough is a hypocrite of the highest order. It’s always rule of law for me and mine, but not for thee and thine. One set of rules for the rulers, another for the ruled.

    • leon

      The Senate may try to quickly dispose of the Articles of Impeachment, and offer multiple justifications: the House investigation was unfair; the evidence obtained is insufficient to prove any wrongdoing; abuse of power and obstruction of Congress are not defined in the Constitution as impeachable offenses;

      Usually that is followed by some reason for why these aren’t good arguments. Not just asserted.

      Central to our existence as a democratic country is the rule of law, the precept that declares that no one stands above its prohibitions and no one falls below its protections.

      Making the “Unfair” House investigation even more problematic for you…

      The rule of law must be more than a mantra that we repeat but do not respect

      Let me remind you of a few phrases and you tell me what comes to mind:

      “Elections have consequences”
      “I Won”
      “I have a pen and i have a phone”

      • kbolino

        When our side wins elections, it’s a mandate. When the other side wins elections, it’s a travesty.

  48. The Late P Brooks

    The American people have the right to elect a president who is crude, cruel and amoral, but Congress has the power and the duty to remove one who has corrupted his office by using it to serve his private ambitions.

    And they were doing pretty well, up to that point.

    • R C Dean

      I like that “getting re-elected” is now a private ambition that politicians should be prohibited from using their office to serve.

  49. Timeloose

    Cancel culture comes to Science.
    https://www.independent.org/news/article.asp?id=13032

    “The conference is titled Fixing Science: Practical Solutions for the Irreproducibility Crisis.

    But one scientist, armed with a keyboard and contempt for contrary opinions, has set out to cancel our conference. Leonid Teytelman has busied himself writing to the speakers at the event to warn them away. And he has found fellow censors who agree the conference is β€œproblematic.” Our critic calls us β€œclever and dangerous.”

    How so? Once a Twitterstorm starts, the reasons multiply. Our list of speakers includes no women. (All declined our invitations.) Our initials share three letters with the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine, or Nasem, therefore we are β€œdeceptive.” Wikipedia describes us as a β€œconservative” organization. We are also accused of β€œclimate denialism,” and of having invited some climate-change skeptics to speak.”

    • Juvenile Bluster

      Science is one of the first places Cancel Culture showed up.

    • leon

      Science! cannot accept any schisims. It must be one in body.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Well, if you reject the catechism of science then how can you call yourself a scientist?

      • leon

        I had a science professor in college who clearly had an issue with people believing in God (which itself is a whole other discussion). But what drove me insane was when we were going over the history of scientific thought and he totally presented it as “Catholic church hated science!”. I mean they totally killed that one guy for simply arguing that the earth revolved around the sun, which was not true.

        It was almost like he had a bias and chased after evidence that confirmed it. So yeah when he started talking about Climate Change, i just had to roll my eyes…

      • kbolino

        I had an otherwise decent English teacher who told us once that Julius Caesar went crusading in Jesus’s name. A couple of us pointed out that Caesar was dead long before Jesus was born, and the Roman Empire didn’t convert to Christianity until hundreds of years after that.

        Some things go unquestioned even by people who should probably know better (something I’m guilty of, too).

      • UnCivilServant

        I was going to see if I could dig up some caesar from late rome who was named julius and was a christian, but that turned into too much work.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        My government teacher in high school said that the Supreme Court could stop an amendment to the Constitution…..if it violated the Constitution. I raised my hand and told him “that makes no sense”. To his credit, he backtracked after thinking about it for a second.

      • kbolino

        While as yet untested in our national Supreme Court, state supreme courts have done just that, and I wouldn’t put it past Justice Penaltax. Your teacher wasn’t wrong so much as before his time.

      • Jarflax

        There is one case where he is correct. If the amendment changes the apportionment of Senators it would be unconstitutional and could/should be struck down by the Court.

      • leon

        The Nazgul need to be reigned in. The only reason parts of libertarianism love the courts is because it seems like the only way to fight for freedom, and i get that, but the real solution is to reign it in.

      • leon

        If the amendment changes the apportionment of Senators

        Did you know that the structure of the senate would be unconstitutional if it weren’t for the constitution?

      • Jarflax

        Did you know that the structure of the senate would be unconstitutional if it weren’t for the constitution?

        What are statements that are self-contradictory? for $500 Alex.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        “If the amendment changes the apportionment of Senators it would be unconstitutional and could/should be struck down by the Court.”

        Sure, but I think the Constitution explicitly states that that cannot be changed. If he had said that I would have given him the benefit of the doubt.

      • Jarflax

        Article V. That was my point.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      Science is built around isolating and shutting down contradictory opinions or something

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’m trying to figure this guy out. His company is built around helping to create reproducibility in science. Does he see the conference as competition?

      • Timeloose

        It’s baffling to me as well. He might have just been to too many or not invited to enough faculty cocktail parties.

      • kbolino

        It could be an attempt to head off any actual reform. The reproducibility crisis has been known about for a while, but it’s also been swept under the rug as much as possible. Science journalism is excellent at building and maintaining a narrative. So, get some group together to “tackle” the reproducibility problem, without actually doing any such thing, and then turn around and say it’s been solved and anybody who says otherwise is a “denier”. Much like the guy who “verified” the climate models by substituting their incorrect predictions with actual data then turning around and saying they were right all along, or the “97% consensus” bullshit that gets trotted out anyone time anyone questions global warming climate change climate crisis, they’ll find some not-quite-implausible but logically inconsistent or materially irrelevant ways to claim legitimacy and then use it to stymie criticism.

    • PieInTheSky

      the science is settled as such there is no need to do this unless you are an evil right winger

      • AlmightyJB

        My science beliefs are settled, everyone else’s is problematic.

    • wdalasio

      And these same people will bemoan the fact that fewer people than previously defer to the judgement of “the scientific community”. Science has built a tremendous amount of authority with the public over centuries. It did so precisely because it doesn’t rely on authority, but on evidence. A decent scientist doesn’t assert that someone is wrong. He or she explains precisely how they’re wrong. But, increasingly, science has some major problems. If you don’t think irreproducibility is a problem, you probably have no business claiming to be a scientist. Relying on authority, when pretty much everyone can see you have some major problems with your methodology is how you destroy that authority.

      These people are trying to save science from the scientists. I don’t think their opponents are going to be very happy with the consequences of their failure.

      • kbolino

        It’s not their fault they hollowed out science in pursuit of money, social status, and power.

        Oh, wait, yes it is.

  50. Timeloose

    As an FYI in case this has not been shared previously. Below link: you can down load some great libertarian or classical liberal writings for free.

    https://www.essentialscholars.org/

    • Timeloose

      It is essentially the crib notes of the authors books.

    • PieInTheSky

      ah the free market

      • leon

        You think with all the Free stuff Warren promisses, she would love the Free Market….

  51. PieInTheSky

    β€œFirefall” at Horsetail Fall in Yosemite National Park, California, looks like a scene from a fantasy movie. But, it is an ordinary waterfall, which is illuminated by the sunset, that gives it a fiery glow.

    https://twitter.com/MAstronomers/status/1219607601966731270

    • R C Dean

      Fake news. Climate Catastrophe has dried up all the rivers.

      • The Last American Hero

        I’d write a longer comment, but I have to go to a climate change caused food riot if I want to feed my family.

  52. KSuellington

    Ha! Looks like the (former) pilot was trying to fake a racist Trump supporter writing racist shit on the walls. I like how he copped to the racist graffiti, but didn’t cop to the pro impeachment ones.

  53. Rebel Scum

    Power is the end, not the means.

    β€œIf Jeff Bezos wants to be a good person, you turn Amazon into a worker cooperative,” Ocasio-Cortez said. β€œYou know, like, not what do I do with all of this money that I have created with this unjust system and, if, usually you’re a billionaire that means that you control a massive system.”

    β€œIt means that you own oil supplies, it means that you control textiles, it means that you have a massive labor force under your control and to be ethical if you’re a billionaire today the thing that you need to do is give up control and power,” Ocasio-Cortez continued. β€œSo, I don’t want your money, as much as we want your power.”

    • PieInTheSky

      β€œIt means that you own oil supplies, it means that you control textiles, it means that you have a massive labor force under your control and to be ethical if you’re a The Government today the thing that you need to do is give up control and power,”

      Fixed that…

    • Jarflax

      So Bezos should turn his workers over to the revolution! Because that huge work force can be better utilized as shock troops. Now, paying them may be difficult since they will not be producing revenue, but that is a trivial issue that can be solved simply by forcing them to volunteer their efforts.

    • Rhywun

      you turn Amazon into a worker cooperative

      OFFS.

      “Just like the Park Slope Food Co-Op and stuff! And not totally dysfunctional!”

      • kbolino

        Turn it into a worker’s “cooperative” and discover how uncooperative the workers can be. In 20 years, when the next retail giant comes along and slays the now-decrepit husk that was Amazon, we can play this stupid game all over again.

      • Pope Jimbo

        No way it would take 20 years.

        The Workers’ Committee would instantly lower the performance quotas in the warehouse and double their wages. Before long they’d be back to the “allow 4 to 6 weeks for delivery” and be done.

        It would also be interesting to see the clash between the warehouse workers and the tech folks running the AWS platform. I doubt the techies would be inclined to embrace the communitarianism of the new woke Amazon and would be purged.

      • kbolino

        True. Even if no American competitor could take its place that quickly, there’s always China and the rest of the world.

      • The Last American Hero

        Fuck that. The tech industry is nothing but woke ass mother fuckers that seem to think if they back social democratic ideas they can keep their fat paychecks and hang with the cool kids.

    • Pope Jimbo

      I would be amused if Bezos took her up on this offer. In fact he should name AOC as the General Secretary of the Worker’s Committee. Then he should retire and start a new company. Maybe call it Nile and go into the ecommerce field.

      What would be the over/under on when Nile forced (unexpectedly) into bankruptcy?

    • wdalasio

      Let’s try a little a little thought experiment, shall we? Imagine someone were to say something like the following:

      If Jeff Bezos Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wants to be a good person, you turn Amazon into a worker cooperative her sex life over to any and all comers. You know, like, not what do I do with all of this money that I have created access to sex and attention I get with this unjust system due to random variations in appearance and, if, usually you’re a billionaire reasonably attractive woman that means that you control a massive system amount of sex and attention.

      Now, my guess would be anyone who said that would be seen as a repulsive, incel, piece of crap. And I can confidently say, I have a basis for making that claim. But, given Ocasio-Cortez’s expressed sentiments, how are the two any different?

      • leon

        Cause like we as a society know that Rape is not OK.

        I know the point you are getting at, but i think you will have a hard time finding a leftest who understands the concept of self ownership and its link to private property. To them it is just something that is wrong, and having too much money is also something that is just wrong.

      • wdalasio

        I don’t disagree for a moment that rape is not OK.

        And I have a logical basis for saying so. Really, though, if they really believe what they’re saying, I don’t see how they can arrive at anything other than the incel conclusion with regard to sex and intimacy. Anything else is simply a double standard.

      • leon

        Well my point is that they don’t see it that way. I see what you are saying, but to them the situations are different because it is just “Obvious” that you cant make a comparison between a womans body and a persons money. The double standard is there in part because they haven’t taken much time to think about why they think it is different. They just do.

        So the response you would get is “That is different because Rape is bad, and this has nothing to do with taking someones money, and the fact that you would even compare the too means you must think of women as property of men”.

  54. The Late P Brooks

    Poll sez: Whiny whiners whine

    “I considered the attack on our electoral system to be the single biggest assault on United States sovereignty since Pearl Harbor,” said poll participant Dimitri Laddis, an independent voter from New York.

    “The fact that the commander in chief has done nothing to reassure us that we are safe from such an attack β€” and the fact that he seems to be keenly aware that he benefits from outside forces having influence over our elections β€” is very disheartening,” Laddis said.

    Although there is no evidence that any votes were changed by a foreign power in 2016 or 2018, almost 4 in 10 Americans surveyed said they believe it is likely another country will tamper with the votes cast in 2020 in order to change the result.

    The poll’s results also paint a picture of a polarized electorate wary about what it reads and not fully convinced that elections are fair.

    In a reflection of how divided the country is, only 62% of Americans said U.S. elections are fair.

    Barely half of Democrats agree with that sentiment, perhaps a reflection of lingering unhappiness that Donald Trump won the 2016 election by capturing the Electoral College while losing the popular vote.

    “No evidence, but…. ” Repeat the lie often enough, loudly enough, and some people will believe it.

    One way or another, Public Enemy Number One stole that election from The Most Qualified Candidate in the history of elections. And he’ll do it again, if we don’t find a way to stop him.

    • leon

      Remember when the idea that elections could be anything but the purest form of democratic contest, and anyone (TRUMP) who would impugn them must hate America?

    • KSuellington

      But asking people to show ID to vote is totes racist.

    • AlmightyJB

      People are stupid

  55. Pope Jimbo

    Ilhan Omar has at least one non-crazy GOP opponent running against her.

    Unfortunately for Dalia she is a) a GOP-er, b) an Iraqi, c) not woke enough to wear the hijab. Still it will be interesting to watch the DFL rip down a muslim, immigrant woman for … reasons.

    • Raston Bot

      i hate resin countertops indoors. they make sense for your tiki bar at the beach house that you leave outside year-round. but if you just have to go resin, then go full resin. get a corpse or an alligator or a bunch of rifles. something badass. charred wood? it’s not going to have any texture or scent. it’s embedded in resin.

      • AlmightyJB

        I think it looks kinda cool. I like black though.

      • PieInTheSky

        now I am not sure if it is resin or something else. It is expensive because it can be difficult to pour in one piece without cracks and needs an expert.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s usually a marine grade epoxy.

      • PieInTheSky

        yeah i think epoxy it was not resin

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The cheaper versions would use acrylic.

      • Urthona

        I prefer countertops hewn from the bones of my enemies.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I prefer the resin inlay style where you get a more traditional wood polish with an added element. This is a good example.

      https://mymodernmet.com/chris-salomone-crayon-inlaid-table/

      I recently made a bathroom countertop from hard maple. For that I used two coats of marine epoxy, followed by three coats of spar urethane. Polished and waxed. No water stains for me.

      • UnCivilServant

        The peice in that link would have been gorgeous – if not for the crayon streak.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I prefer metal inlays myself.

      • UnCivilServant

        With that wood… a brass or copper protected from patination by the resin might look pretty good. Say a quarter inch band running along the perimeter, set in a quarter or three eighths from the outside.

    • Mojeaux

      I think it’s pretty.

      I prefer black polished concrete.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Everybody wants black polished concrete.

        It’s only the hardest color to do because it shows every single defect in the polishing process.

      • Urthona

        Covering something with black polish is a little racist.

      • UnCivilServant

        That’s just because it’s hard to find black poles.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        At least with white, you can just tell them it can’t be done.

    • UnCivilServant

      “Scathing”?

      You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      Stop making Mitch McConnell sound so cool. These nicknames are all backfiring. Why are they so bad at this?

      • Pope Jimbo

        This is why they need to bring back Weiner Carlos Danger. He understood what was cool and appealed to the hip kids.

      • UnCivilServant

        I thought his outreach was to kids’ hips.

      • leon

        I can’t wait to be a ghost in 1000 years and see the depictions of our time.

        “And in those days kid there was a wild west desperado [Narrators note: remember that to them the Wild West and the 2000’s would be like the exact same time], who had taken control of the Senate. His name was Midnight Mitch.”

      • Raston Bot

        *rumored to have a huge drug problem

    • Raston Bot

      it’s okay. i like it better than Rogue Leader. sure, it’s no Cocaine Mitch, but that’s a high bar.

    • Rebel Scum

      Leftists go with “Moscow Mitch” because ‘muh Russia’.

    • KSuellington

      β€œIn the midnite hour, Mitch gonna let it all hang out.”

      Wait, they think that nickname is derogative?

    • kbolino

      Are any of these people capable of higher mental functions anymore? It’s all emotion all the time with no element of thought or consideration.

    • Agent Cooper

      The left doth not meme well.

  56. Enough About Palin

    “Confederate General Stonewall Jackson was born on this day.”

    I DEMAND that you remove any trace of his name from this thread! Or are you all RACISTS????

    • UnCivilServant

      I’ve been called worse.

    • Rebel Scum

      I guess you might find the Valley Campaign triggering.

    • leon

      That isn’t enough. We need to strike January 21st from out Calendar. As long as his birthday can be celebrated, we won’t be free of racism.

  57. PieInTheSky

    The Journey of the Journey Cake – Any Grain Will Do

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgNuPXIIvC8

    I keep watching videos and that fireplace somehow seems inefficient. Then again I assume there was plenty of wood in 18th century America, and it warmed you twice or some shit (read that somehwere)

    • kinnath

      Wow, I got a youtube add for concealed carry holster when I clicked on that video.

      After weeks of Dem Candidate ads, it was a shock.

      • leon

        Speaking of Ads, I Love Bloombergs, for just how terrible they are. Every single one makes me want to not vote for him more.

    • Caput Lupinum

      It is modeled after a colonial homestead, so the fireplace is going to be rather inefficient. Colonial houses outside of the frontiers would have more efficient designs, such as a Franklin fireplace, or after it was improved by David Rittenhouse, a Pennsylvania fireplace.

      • Caput Lupinum

        Also the heating twice effect of a good fireplace is once from radiant heat and secondly through convection by controlled draft; the Pennsylvania fireplace was designed to maximize both effects.

      • PieInTheSky

        the heating twice i was talking about was like the effort of cutting the wood

      • Caput Lupinum

        Cutting the wood only heats the orphans.

      • Pope Jimbo

        BS! You were talking about the friction heat generated from morning wood

    • Akira

      Love that channel.

      He’s located in Pierceton, Indiana, only about 3 hours away from me. Some friends and I were thinking about making a trip to his store sometime.

    • UnCivilServant

      In December, Epstein, 66, announced that his wife – 29-year-old Misti Vaughn

      I hate to speak ill of the dead, but I get the impression they met while she was dancing around a pole.

      • Rhywun

        “Misti” is a distinguished, old Welsh name.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I would have expected a pic of the wife. How can I tell how outraged I should be if I can’t tell how attractive she was?

        Imagine my embarrassment if I got all righteously upset about this and then I found out she was an uggo? Or black?

      • UnCivilServant

        I doubt she played rugby for New Zealand.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Uffda. That looks worse than I meant it to be. I was trying to riff on Fox getting all moist any time a pretty white teenager gets killed.

      • Jarflax

        There are pics of her in the article linked lol.

      • UnCivilServant

        I don’t see any.

        Then again, I’m not letting the ten million external script sources run scripts on the site.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I’m with UCS. I didn’t see any either. I better get my Male Gaze checked out.

      • Jarflax

        They are in the embedded tweets.

      • UnCivilServant

        You let those things load?

        Get some anti-virus checkups.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s okay. I wear a condom while clicking.

      • Pope Jimbo

        My workplace oppresses me by blocking twitter. That is why I didn’t see them. And when I am at home, I’m like UCS and block them loading by default.

        Life is so much better when you don’t look at Twitter.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        I’m pressing F for respects

        Dr. Epstein is a stone cold pimp.

      • Jarflax

        ^see HM looked at the pictures.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Damn straight

      • Agent Cooper

        “awesome Ford Ranger”

        Yeah, he seems stable.

    • kbolino

      The Mayor later tweeted about the incident. Those tweets and comments were criticized by users on Instagram and Twitter.

      What isn’t “criticized” on social media?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        That shit I took this morning.

      • Agent Cooper

        I’ve seen better.

        /twitter

    • leon

      The “Walk into private meetings and be obnoxious” form of protestation is super endearing.

      • Pope Jimbo

        The article said that they had bought tickets (at least the way I read it).

        But this is how civil disobedience works. You protest and get arrested. Then you take your lumps and use that to further highlight whatever injustice is going on. Your hope should be to make the city look like even bigger shit heels than they already did for not looking into why someone got shot during an undercover sting.

      • leon

        Hmmm. I might have misunderstood. My understanding was that the MLK breakfast was put on an organization apart from the city. But i agree that getting arrested is part of what it takes to do the civil disobedience thing.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I agree that it was put on by a private organization. But the way I read it, it seemed like the protesters had bought tickets to attend. The trouble was that once they were inside they started protesting about the city not looking into the shooting.

        I’m actually impressed that the protesters bought the tickets instead of barging in. Makes me a bit more sympathetic to their cause.

      • leon

        That is true. Buying the tickets is pretty classy.

  58. The Late P Brooks

    Wow, I got a youtube add for concealed carry holster when I clicked on that video.

    After weeks of Dem Candidate ads, it was a shock.

    I get a thing urging me to peruse youtube’s new terms of service, and a popup telling me I’m not signed in.

    *browser dumps cookies on close*

  59. Ozymandias

    Sorry for the OT drive by, but just wanted to let TPTB know that the next chapter of the anthrax series is in the queue, in case it’s scheduled for tonight.
    At SHOT Show for all of you gun nuts firearms enthusiasts. Fun day of shooting on Sunday and now it’s the sea of humanity at the Sands.