The “I Hate Valentine’s Day” Edition of Friday Morning Links!

by | Feb 14, 2020 | Daily Links | 599 comments

First, let me say to Yusef: OMWC and I are beyond words over the loss of your Wendy. Many people will never be lucky enough to know the kind of love you had together. Hold on to that, because it truly does endure – and while the loss is ripping your heart out right now, that great love is strong and resilient and will see you through over the long haul.

You know you can always reach out to the Glibs family. OK, so we’re a weird, opinionated, dysfunctional, politically incorrect, unattractive, sometimes quarrelsome family, but we’re family and we care.

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We don’t celebrate “Hallmark Holidays” in our marriage. If your relationship is solid, you’re probably thinking of little (and big) things you can do to please your beloved all the time, year ’round. We always cook great meals, drink bubbly just because it’s Tuesday and we like it (and each other), and if I see something I know OMWC would enjoy, I pick it up whether a gift-giving occasion is nigh or not.

I’ve had friends who think that if their significant other doesn’t go all out on gifts and hoopla, especially on Valentine’s Day, that it means they aren’t loved. Well, honey, if that’s how you measure it, maybe you’d be better off alone.

When I was a small child, I hated the forced parties and obligatory all-classmate-card-giving that the school demanded. I’d often try to be “sick” that day just so I didn’t have to go through it. Sometimes my Dad was sympathetic and let me ditch.

*sigh*

 

Well, of course, none of this means I wouldn’t love some yellow roses today. But I’d love them just as much any other day, and maybe more, because they’d do less damage to our checking account.

 

So. Now that I’m done ranting, let’s see what’s happening in the world, shall we?

 

OFFS.

Tulip, beware of online dating.

Now we know what Swiss does when he isn’t here.

Tired of paying your student loans? Just do this instead!

My eyes rolled so far back, I could see children dying of COVID-19 in China.

Fuck you.

Cut spending.

 

You knew this was coming.

 

Have as good a day as you can manage, kids!

 

 

 

 

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SP

I've got an idea! How about we just stick to the Constitution as written and then the government can leave me the fuck alone.

599 Comments

  1. AlexinCT

    Happy Valentine’s Glibs!

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Fuck that

      • AlexinCT

        How would Wendy want you to feel Yusef? I know you hurt right now, but remember that she would not want that.

      • Cacciatore

        I don’t do hallmark holidays either.

    • MikeS

      *unzips*

  2. AlexinCT

    Tired of paying your student loans? Just do this instead!

    Can I use this strategy to buy myself a Bugatti?

    I don’t need the top end one. I will settle for the one that costs around $2.6 milllion. And then I will strike and make you working rubes pay for that shit!

    Social Justice & Social Utopia all at once!

    • Tonio

      Sandy Nurse doesn’t see why she needs to be $120,000 in debt “just for trying to improve my understanding of the world.”

      Typical progressive deliberate misstatement of facts. She’s not in debt because she tried to improve her understanding of the world, which obviously didn’t work out well. She’s in debt because she took out a loan which she is now threatening to default on, and encouraging others to do likewise.

      • AlexinCT

        You know Tonio, I have often told people that tell me these sob stories that they were the ones to make the choice. Indubitably I get the “But I was told by everyone to chase my dreams and that college was the key to success” story. When I ask them why they never actually researched any of it themselves, I get blank stares. I am a firm believer in personal responsibility, but I understand that the primary school system was dumbed down, on purpose I believe, precisely to create people that would make these sorts of stupid decisions and then need government to bail them out, so I feel some empathy. A small amount, but not enough to decide other people should foot the bill for their stupidity.

        Kids used to be told that self sufficiency was important. Basic economics, history, and critical thinking were all emphasized, so most of us learned to make smart choices or we payed for the bad ones. Fast forward to the world created by people that made government take on the role of parent, and we have a whole bunch of numskulls that have accepted the whole idea that they can quickly make others pay for their bad choices and have that be seen as some kind of struggle against the evil system.

        The fact that we get accused of being evil for calling out the fact that the problem is with those that are either not educated enough or simply make terrible choices, is what galls me the most.

      • Jarflax

        I feel a tremendous empathy, and believe that Student Loans should be dischargeable in bankruptcy. But I also believe that children only learn from consequences. When you shield your child from all the consequences of their mistakes they never learn to avoid those mistakes. You borrowed the money, you owe the money. If that means your life sucks so be it.

      • Social Justice is Neither

        Improving her understanding of the world requires an investment in a library card, not a 5 year party.

        Hopefully this shit forces a withdrawal from public college financing, but i’m sure that comes right after the end of the war on drugs.

      • JD is Unemployed

        You need to have a piece of paper that certifies that you have been properly indoctrinated within the marxist framework, not simply allowed to wonder into a library and absorb any old wrongthink tome.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        “I have to either pay my rent and get health care, or pay down my loans,” said Nurse, who got her bachelor’s degree in political science from Emmanuel College in Boston.

        And there it is, the worthless degree.

      • WTF

        Maybe she thought she could open up her own little politics shop? Seriously, what do people who get these degrees think they are going to do with them? Or does that thought somehow never enter their heads?

      • Brawndo

        Fuck. That’s where I went to college.

  3. Swiss Servator

    Now we know what Swiss does when he isn’t here.

    Why, I never!

    *checks premier status on Swissair frequent flier program – hey, platinum!*

  4. Pat

    Tulip, beware of online dating.

    Isn’t that just like a woman. First they say you never want to do anything spontaneous, but then…

    • Swiss Servator

      Yeah….I thought women liked “bad boys”?

    • Nephilium

      /shakes fist

      I was coming down here to make a similar joke.

    • Drake

      How was their second date?

      • UnCivilServant

        The jail’s visitor room was lovely.

  5. UnCivilServant

    Why am I just now learning that Oyster Shell Mortar is a thing?

    • Jarflax

      Dude stick with tennis balls, ballistic oyster shells will hurt Tabby.

  6. Pat

    Despite nearly going to war, the U.S. and Iran have kept a channel open to discuss the possible release of prisoners.

    It was *this* close I tells ya.

    • Swiss Servator

      YOU ARE GOINZG TO BE DRAFTED!!!! NUKLEAR CLOCK AT 100 SEKONDZ TO MIDNIGHT!!!! ORANGE MAN BAD!!!!

      • AlexinCT

        I am wondering if these retards had stupid parents that never shared the whole “Boy who cried wolf” fable with them, or they simply are this stupid and, like they did with books like 1984, Brave New World, and Harrison Bergeron, took this fable as a “How To” manual.

      • Jarflax

        They had parents that shielded them from all consequences and catered to their every whim. They now regard not getting every desire immediately fulfilled as violence.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        This. I remember hearing my parents murmuring about other parents who were “setting their kids up for failure” by avoiding teaching consequences. Well, now we get to bear the consequences of that social movement.

      • Not Adahn

        It’s ow being reported as fact that the Iranian response caused brain damage to over 100 soldiers.

      • WTF

        So, that means they now want Trump to engage in massive retaliation?

      • Not Adahn

        No, but Trump should be impeached for causing such casualties to US troops.

      • Fourscore

        I see disability.

  7. The Late P Brooks

    I was young, selfish and unable to relate to her struggles with intimacy. While I wondered if she didn’t love me, want me or desire me, she wondered why I didn’t understand how getting physical was a hellish flashpoint. Unintentionally, her actions made me feel rejected and unloved while mine made her feel like an object that was being used. Both of us were hurt and our marriage became colder than a January blizzard.

    A pair of emotional cripples find each other. It’s a match made in heaven. Maybe you should write it up for the Hallmark Channel.

    Meanwhile… Okay, cuck.

    • Tejicano

      “Jay Lowder: Why every married man in America should go to couples counseling”

      Projection much? But since I don’t live in America I guess I’m off the hook.

      • Fourscore

        ” if you really want to show your wife you love her, I recommend booking a counseling session.”

        Mrs Fourscore will tell me everything I need to know. Saves me a trip.

      • AlexinCT

        That’s the point isn’t it? If you are lucky enough to have a woman (same thing applies to guys) that isn’t playing games and can be frank & honest, then counseling is not needed. Counseling is for idiots that create drama where none is needed or if life throws a serious wrecking ball at ya. I personally will never do it. It’s not how I handle things.

      • Old Man With Candy

        Every time we hear someone say, “You have to work at a successful relationship,” SP and I give each other a knowing look.

        Marry someone you like, not just love.

      • Jarflax

        Yeah but your look says “What are they talking about, this is so easy” and her look says “Of course it takes work. So much work. Aren’t there child labor laws about this?”

  8. Pat

    You knew this was coming.

    Good choice. For something a bit more contemporary

    • Pat
  9. CPRM

    A Rushun under every bed a swatsticker on every hat! #Trump’sAmerica!!!11

  10. The Late P Brooks

    For me, counseling makes sense. I don’t hesitate when my truck needs a tune up so why would I respond differently when my marriage needs one?

    And naturally you assume you can tell when my truck needs a tune up, because you’re more specialer than anybody.

    • AlexinCT

      They are credentialed. You are not. That makes them experts, and you a deplorable for questioning them.

  11. invisible finger

    Couldn’t you just make the swastika out of the interlocked “SD” on their regular hats anyway?

  12. The Late P Brooks

    This was instead of the Swinging Friar with the somewhat matrix-and digital-looking “SD” over his torso that may or may not have resembled a swastika and may or may not have looked cheesy.

    Okay, cuck.

    • l0b0t

      How on Earth does one derive a swastika from that hat? Have these people never actually seen one?

    • Gadfly

      It’s a butt-ugly logo design, but it in no way looks like a swastika. Those critics are either paranoiacs or crypto-nazis, seeing swastikas everywhere.

  13. AlexinCT

    Anyone of you think any of this will happen? I mean, if it did, it would set a great precedent, but the people that would need to start the wheels rolling on this are all part of the cabal doing this evil and corrupt/illegal shit in the first place.

  14. leon

    I was out last night. I’m so sorry Yusuf. I can’t imagine. We are here for you.

    • invisible finger

      Same here. Time usually heals these things, come here and vent and reminisce and what ever you need to do to get through it.

  15. The Late P Brooks

    But since I don’t live in America I guess I’m off the hook.

    CLOSE TEH LOOPHOLEZ!

  16. Rebel Scum

    Christopher Castillo used a dating app to choose an unwitting woman as his getaway driver on their first date.

    That’s one way to be unique.

    • ChipsnSalsa

      That may not be the best way to find a quality getaway driver.

      • Tundra

        You saying he should have used Grindr instead?

      • Bobarian LMD

        It would get a better class of driver.

    • l0b0t

      It could have been a fantastic meet cute.

  17. Tundra

    Good morning, SP!

    What a lovely surprise – thanks for the lynx. Even that student loan one that may have burst a couple million brain cells.

    My beautiful wife of more than 28 years is scornful of phony holidays, too. I’m lucky.

    Excellent musical choice! This was the album when you knew the ‘Mats days were numbered, though. Westerberg was pretty clearly upping his songwriting game, including this gem.

    Have a fantastic day!

    • Private Chipperbot

      I thought you were going to go forhere for a V-day themed song of his. Of course, it’s no Citizen Dick…

    • Private Chipperbot

      Dammit! I’m going down the rabbit hole. Keep finding good stuff.

      Waiting for Somebody.

    • Viking1865

      “My beautiful wife of more than 28 years is scornful of phony holidays, too. I’m lucky.”

      Mine of more than 1 year feels the same way. Last month I said “Hey V-Day is a Friday, should I do a reservation at a new place or an old face.”

      “Ughh there will be too many people at a restaurant on Valentines Day, just cook a steak.”

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      My wife is generally the same. Valentines day we do have a small tradition of putting together a cheese board for dinner. We did it one time when we were young-and-broke living in Cleveland when we visited the West Side Market. We still do it now as less young, less broke, as much to remember the “good” times as anything else. And our kids love good cheese, so they always look forward to it.

      But this year we are all sick so fuck that.

  18. Rebel Scum

    Now we know what Swiss does when he isn’t here.

    They always play both sides.

    • Jarflax

      Neutrality, probity, and never forget to send the bill.

  19. The Late P Brooks

    Earlier this month, at the University of California, Los Angeles, the Debt Collective, an organization founded by a passel of activists who met during the Occupy Wall Street movement of nearly a decade ago, called on people with student debt to stop paying it. At the event, dozens of people lit their student loan bills on fire.

    Something something conspiracy to defraud

    • leon

      “who met during the Occupy Wall Street movement of nearly a decade ago,”

      That long ago?!?

      • AlexinCT

        And these fucks have not showered yet…

  20. Tonio

    Yusef: OMWC and I are beyond words over the loss of your Wendy.

    And many others of us, too. Thanks for the notification. Please let us know if we can help in any way.

    • Trials and Trippelations

      Yusef, I am so sorry for your loss. You are in my prayers.

      • WTF

        Thanks, I wouldn’t have seen this otherwise. Condolences to Bob.

      • Shirley Knott

        Thanks for bringing this forward.

      • Chipwooder

        Thanks for sharing the link!

      • Plisade

        Thanks to HE for setting that up.

      • Deplorableme

        Thanks for bring that forward. Bob, you have my deepest condolences. So sorry for your lost.

      • Bobarian LMD

        Condolences.

        I have no words.

  21. leon

    “While the outing did not end with any charges against his unwilling accomplice,”

    I mean who gets to say they were a get away driver who got away?

    • Swiss Servator

      Now she will have the guys lining up for her!

      • leon

        She’ll be their ball and chain.

      • Chipwooder

        +1 broken nose and broken heart

  22. The Late P Brooks

    As student loan bills have climbed, incomes haven’t.

    At some point, it’s easier to just make your own damn coffee.

    • Fourscore

      True, plus I like the company better.

  23. Rufus the Monocled

    “Sandy Nurse doesn’t see why she needs to be $120,000 in debt “just for trying to improve my understanding of the world.”

    Something tells me her ability to understand the world will come up short.

    So much to unpack here.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      “I never benefited from my degree,” said Ami Schneider, 33, who attended the Illinois Institute of Art between 2007 and 2010. Schneider is also joining the strike, saying that repaying her loans would be “legitimizing the fraud.”

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      • Rufus the Monocled

        The strike makes sense in light of the fact that the government continues to collect on the debts of defrauded students from for-profit colleges, said Toby Merrill, director of the Project on Predatory Student Lending at Harvard University.

        “The idea that debts can be collected with no regard for the validity of those debts is completely lawless,” Merrill said. “The Department of Education has given borrowers no choice but to take dramatic action.”

        You’re not helping Toby.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        “Yet higher education expert Mark Kantrowitz believes strikers have little to gain other than wrecking their finances.

        “Even if millions of borrowers participated, the federal government has very strong powers to compel repayment,” Kantrowitz said, rattling off the consequences of default: wage garnishment, collection fees and ruined credit.

        However, Debt Collective members say they’re not recommending borrowers default on their loans. “We’re not encouraging people to commit financial suicide,” Gokey said.”

        Finally some responsible adults in the room.

      • Shirley Knott

        Well, then precisely what are they recommending?

      • Bobarian LMD

        Stomping your feet and holding your breath.

      • Fourscore

        My two youngest grand daughters, Class o’ 19, just finished paying off their student loans, with a little help.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Nothing wrong with a helping hand. I got that from my parents and I will do the same for my daughter.

        Where I can, there will be help. Full stop. She’s my child and always will be.

      • Fourscore

        Its what grandpas do

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Her grandmother takes care of the RESP.

      • Tonio

        defrauded students from for-profit colleges

        What about all those students defrauded by no–for-profit colleges, such as those offering worthless “studies” degrees? Nope, didn’t think so.

        Granted many for-profit colleges are shady they only exist because of student loans and GI benefits. This is just another facet of the left’s war on private education.

      • Gustave Lytton

        the Project on Predatory Student Lending at Harvard University

        Isn’t that a bit like credit counseling sponsored by the payday lending industry?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        In Harvard’s defense, they do have an aggressive tuition aid program. It’s certainly easier when you have a multi-billion dollar endowment.

        However, there are innumerable private, “not-for-profit” schools that are shameless when it comes to soaking up loan dollars.

      • Not an Economist

        I’d like to ask that guy why, with billions in endowments in the bank, Harvard isn’t doing more to help their students.

      • Brett L

        How about this, if your endowment is more than 200x your tuition for a term, your school is not eligible for the Federal student loan guarantee program. If Harvard wants poor people it can give them scholarships, waivers, and housing assistance.

      • R C Dean

        “The idea that debts can be collected with no regard for the validity of those debts is completely lawless,”

        Did you take the money?

        Did you sign the paper?

        Did anybody lie to you about the terms of the loan?

        If the answers are yes, yes, and no, then the debt is valid. Full stop.

      • Social Justice is Neither

        She is right, joining the strike would legitimize fraud. Just not the fraud she is thinking about.

      • R C Dean

        “legitimizing the fraud.”

        First, let’s here the material statements or omissions of fact in connection with your loan.

        Not your degree, that’s a completely separate issue.

    • leon

      Geez. Look I don’t know why I have to pay the grocer just for trying to get the sustenance I need to live.

      Its a sick irony that the most anti social individuals are the ones who everyone says it’s”just trying to be nice”. No they are not. They think everything revolves around them. They would be abhored if their employer decided that they didn’t need to pay them for just trying to provide a good service.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        It’s like when I watch Court TV (guilty pleasure!) and someone is being sued for their share of the rent. When asked why they didn’t pay they say something like ‘because I lost my job’ or ‘I needed to buy food’ or ‘needed to buy clothes for my kids’.

        That’s a YOU problem. YOU entered the lease agreement. You DON’T get to reneg ‘because insert lames ass excuse here’.

        Lease, rents, debts….you have to HONOR them. No one forced you to sign.

        You can use scary words like ‘Predatory’ all you want (and I do think there’s some of that at play probably) but in the end YOU have personal agency.

        Own it.

      • Viking1865

        I usually reject the whole “predatory” thing out of hand, but student loans fall into that category. You grow in public school with every single teacher and administrator singing the virtue of college, your guidance counselor only talks about college, despite all the other paths forward, and you grow up hearing about college as a nonstop party with a bunch of fun shit going on all the time, and then as soon as you turn 18 they stick a pen in your hand and shove a loan at you. It’s a pipeline, and all the adults in the system benefit directly from it. The more kids who go to college, the more money flows into the colleges.

      • Florida Man

        There is a culture shift now back to the trades. The ones resisting the most are the parents because they can’t tell friends at cocktail parties there child is at “insert school of choice”.

      • Tundra

        As a parent right in the thick of it, I don’t find that to be the case at all. I talk to parents all the time who practically brag that their kid is an apprentice sparky or in some other career path. Even our HS does a trade fair in addition to the college one. And this is an affluent school full of kids whose parents are like degreed.

        The bubble is getting close.

      • Florida Man

        I may have a skewed view. My wife worked in the fancy pants part of town, so your mileage may vary.

      • AlexinCT

        I am proud my son decided to become a car mechanic. Nobody will try to offshore his job, and it is a honest way to make living. I know many parents with college degrees that see this as something negative, but I don’t.

      • Chipwooder

        And if you’re good, you can make a damned good living. A friend of mine is a master diesel mechanic and he makes a better salary than my office drone ass ever has. He even got a trip to Stuttgart on the company dime to go through Daimler’s diesel training course.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I know many parents with college degrees that see this as something negative, but I don’t.

        I really can’t imagine that mentality. Maybe it’s because I’m in one of those “high prestige” jobs and hate most of the people. Maybe it’s because I don’t associate my job title with my self worth. But nobody is “too good” for a job that pays the bills. Everything beyond that is personal preference.

      • Mojeaux

        XX TD applied for a job at Walmart. For a first job, it’s great. I figured she’d break and decide she can’t do that for the rest of her life. But it occurred to me that working at Walmart *as a career* isn’t that bad, either, as long as you’re on management track, so I gave her the lecture yesterday.

        “If you decide you can tolerate standing on your feet for 8+ hours a day, then make a goal to work your way up to management. Take advantage of the 401(k) immediately.”

        Unfortunately, she pinged for speed on her drug test, so they had to call the pharmacy to verify it’s an rx. Haven’t heard back yet.

      • mock-star

        I worked for them for 16 years. Granted, I was on the logistics side of the company. It wasnt that bad. If you plan ahead at an early age (Like taking full advantage of their 15% company stock match) its very possible to make WalMart a career.

      • Florida Man

        The only reason there are “predatory loans” is because the person wanting the money is so high risk they have no other options. High risk requires high rewards.

    • Michael Bluth

      Her understanding of judgments and wage garnishments is about to increase substantially.

      • Shirley Knott

        Well, her experience of judgements and wage garnishments will increase substantially. Her understanding? I doubt it.

      • Michael Bluth

        Well, yeah that’s a much better way to put it.

    • Brett L

      “This car was a piece of shit, why should I have to make payments on it?!”

  24. l0b0t

    Fuck these kids! I’m in default on a $3000 student loan from 1997 and the DoEd. arm of FedGov has been confiscating my income tax refund for damn near a decade.

    • AlexinCT

      That’s one of the main reasons that I make sure I always end up owing Uncle Sam and send him a check on April 15th. The other big one is that I feel I do a lot better investing/saving and using my own money and don’t need someone else to hold on to it for me so I don’t piss it all away every time I get it.

      • Florida Man

        I’ve been tweaking my finances trying to owe zero for years. It’s a damn moving target. Anyways this year I was the closest yet. I owed under 2k.

      • AlexinCT

        I will be sending a check for about $3k on the due date. It went up when Trump’s tax cut for the rich went into effect (I went from breaking even between what I get back from the state which doesn’t allow me to limit what they steal out of my paycheck and what i mailed to the feds, to now owing an additional $1.5K), but according to the commies I got to steal more money from the poor people. All in all, my tax burden is less, but I now have to send the IRS more money. The good thing is that I prefer that anyway.

      • Lackadaisical

        Life and laws keep changing. I am trying the same thing, but until I’m the sole breadwinner (never?) I don’t think that will happen.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    However, Thomas Gokey, co-founder of the Debt Collective, said the movement aims to “politicize” the millions of Americans who already are not repaying their student debt because they can’t.

    One of these days, those morons are going to look around and think, “Maybe politicizing every goddam thing in my life wasn’t really such a good idea.”

    • Jarflax

      One of these days, those morons are going to look around and think, “Maybe politicizing every goddam thing in my life wasn’t really such a good idea.

      That would involve them learning how to think, which necessarily involves some self examination.

  26. The Late P Brooks

    “I have to either pay my rent and get health care, or pay down my loans,” said Nurse, who got her bachelor’s degree in political science from Emmanuel College in Boston. “It’s one of the reasons I don’t even think about having children. How can anyone afford it?”

    Oh. From the photo, I assumed you couldn’t have children because you’re a male transvestite.

    • robc

      How can anyone afford it?

      By majoring in something that pays enough to make rent, health care, student loan, and child payments.

      • UnCivilServant

        But, but, but… that sounds like work!

      • Pat

        To be fair, that’s increasingly difficult even for people who get real degrees since health care, rent and student loans have all increased between 400% and 1,000% in the last 40 years. I’m sure we’re just one student loan forgiveness program from reversing that trend though…

      • robc

        1. Go to a state school, work while there, get out with little to no debt.

        2. Get roommates.

        3. If you picked one of the majors I suggested, the job will probably come with subsidized (by the employer) health care.

        4. Get a raise or 4 before having the kid.

      • Pat

        That’s the bog standard shit you have to do regardless, I’m just saying, it takes substantially more money to do now than it did even back when I was in school, and it’s more than likely one of several factors that’s pushing milestones like marriage, children and home ownership into later life for modern people.

        My entire undergrad education ended up costing about $17k. Graduated no debt. And I thank all of you nice taxpayers for that.

      • robc

        I agree, it was much easier to do when I graduated in 1991 than today. Mostly because government backed student loans were still relatively new and the price of tuition hadn’t skyrocketed yet.

        But that just makes it harder, it doesn’t change the blueprint.

        Or, step 0, skip college, learn a trade, and start earning money at a much younger age. My 24 year old nephew has taken this approach. It appears to be working well for him.

      • Pat

        My dad was a contractor. Spent my whole life telling me not to get into the trades. Go to college. If I had it to do over again, I may or may not have gone into the trades, but I almost certainly would have skipped college. Everything of any consequence that I learned in 3 and a half years I could have learned in a year of self-study, and I’ve never ended up using the credential anyway.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Everything of any consequence that I learned in 3 and a half years I could have learned in a year of self-study

        This, or by actually being on the job.

      • Viking1865

        “But that just makes it harder, it doesn’t change the blueprint.”

        Eh, if you crunch the numbers…..it kind of does.

        Tuition in 1975 at Mich State: 848 dollars. Min wage was 2.10. That’s 400 hours of work. Go home for 10 weeks, work as many hours as you can, live with your parents, eat mom’s cooking and do your hanging and partying on the weekends and nights like an adult. Go back to school in the fall, pay your tuition up front, wait tables for books and beer, repeat every year.

        2020: 15,700. MI Min wage is 9.65. That’s that’s like 1,620 hours. My wife worked full time, above minimum wage, and got tons of scholarships and grants, and still graduated with a ton of debt. STEM degree.

        It really isn’t possible to work your way through school debt free, unless you’re Hunter Biden with a 50k a month no show job.

      • Cannoli

        Harder, possibly, but still doable. I got my bachelor’s in 2015. Went to a good in-state school, with a handful of academic scholarships. Did a co-op and 2 internships, and TAed the semesters I was taking classes. I also lived in the sorority house, which was way cheaper than the dorms. No school debt.

        Roommates in college, married Mr. Cannoli after.

        Majored in computer science, Mr. Cannoli majored in chemical engineering, now getting his analytics master’s paid for by his employer.

        We’re working on step 4. We can afford to have kids, although we can’t yet afford to have one of us be a stay-at-home parent, mostly because we got a large house in anticipation of raising a family.

      • Florida Man

        It depends on the program as well. I had a scholarship and worked in nursing school and came out debt free. I went into CRNA school with 30K saved and still had to take on over 100K (single, no family) in debt because it is so expensive (State school) and there is literally no time to work between clinical and classroom time.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        It really isn’t possible to work your way through school debt free,

        It is still possible, but you have to sacrifice. In-state public school, knock out the prereqs at community College, live at home, work/intern/constantly apply for scholarships, etc.

        I’ve done it both ways. I was a dose of discipline short of walking out of undergrad (’11) $20k in the black. Co-op plus merit scholarship meant that if I wasn’t blowing everything on booze and girls, I’d have been debt free with cash in the bank.

        Law school was probably quite a bit less realistic to cash flow. We didn’t need to go $180k in debt for it, but eve if we hadn’t been idiots, we would’ve had 40-50k. Of course, I skipped the better school with a better scholarship because I thought I was going to save money by working through law school. Lol, idiot.

      • Mojeaux

        When I was looking at law school, there was a requirement that you were not allowed to work while in school.

        10 years later, and they have a five-year night school program for working adults, but that is likely because the entire university is an urban commuter school (LOTS AND LOTS of international students too) and is geared toward working adults.

        I doubt you could work in medical school or dental school and I highly doubt it’s doable anyway.

      • Cannoli

        Re Valentine’s: celebrations aren’t necessary, but can be fun. We just treat it like an oversized date night – we typically cook a nice dinner, dance, and watch a movie (all of which we do at other times, but we rarely have time to do all of them in one date), and we make a nice dessert (which we do not do often because of trying to low-carb). We seldom do presents, and only if it was something we were going to get anyway. Valentine’s doesn’t have to take away from don’t nice things for each other year round, any more than birthdays or Christmas do.

      • Cannoli

        Gah, don’t know how that ended up there

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The Feds have ruined the higher ed system by guaranteeing student loans regardless of capability to pay it back. And then pushing that system to everyone who couldn’t afford to pay.

        The universities (non-profit or not) are doing what any business would do, sucking up as many of those dollars as they can their dirty hands on, but then they have the nerve to claim that they are not part of the problem, that they aren’t scamming the customers.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Bingo. I’m one of the lucky ones that played the game and it paid off, but its still a fucking scam.

      • Fourscore

        Wait a minute! My counselor said I could get a government job. All the Soc majors are working doing Starbucks stuff, why not me?

        I railed yesterday about counselors/parents. I’m not gonna waste my time today.

        As an old friend once told me, “Don’t let a good education stand in your way of success”

      • UnCivilServant

        Trust me, government jobs are not fulfilling.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        I have a friend always talking about how great his DoD job is. Takes a lot of effort not to kick him in the balls.

      • Tejicano

        You certainly can get a government job. Here, this is the link for the Air Force recruiter. Here’s one for the Navy, and another for the Army. Let me know if those don’t work out.

      • UnCivilServant

        Where’s the Space Force recruiter?

      • Gadfly

        The Space Force is small enough they probably don’t have to stoop to taking people unwise enough to take out $120K in debt without any plan to pay it back.

      • AlexinCT

        Making a commitment to serve and getting your education funded is a sure fire way to avoid debt. And if you are into that sort of thing, you could even try to force tax payers to pay for your transition surgery these days…

      • Akira

        When I quit my job at the prison, there was a debate going on about a female inmate who wanted to wear men’s undergarments. The mental health staff was reluctant to give her that, because it would be acknowledging that she has gender identity disorder and possibly put the state on the hook for reassignment surgery.

        … So in the not too distant future, there might be another route to get a sex change on the taxpayer’s dime.

      • creech

        Why are you siccing this dolt on the Armed Forces?

      • Tejicano

        Many of the people who do enlist – myself included at the time – don’t have a realistic understanding of the world as it is so the Armed forces are pretty much structured to deal with that kind of dolt. They can make good use of just about anybody.

      • Viking1865

        Yep and the ASVAB is fantastic at finding skills people din’t know they had. My friends cousin was kind of a shiftless stoner type. Joined up, took ASVAB, turns out hes like insanely good at picking up languages.

      • UnCivilServant

        The military guys came to my school. I took the ASVAB and it said I was well-suited to Military Intelligence.

        I didn’t take the insult well.

  27. Pat

    Apple ordered to pay employees for time lost to bag searches

    Apple broke the law in California by failing to pay employees while they waited for mandatory bag and iPhone searches, the state’s supreme court has ruled. The fight began over six years ago, when Apple Store employees sued the company, saying they were required to clock out before being searched for stolen merchandise or trade secrets. The workers felt they were still under Apple’s control during that five to 20 minute process and should therefore be compensated. Apple in turn argued that the employees could choose not to bring their bags or iPhones, thus avoiding a search in the first place.

    Apple won an earlier battle in district court, but the case went to the California Supreme Court on appeal. There, the judges ruled that Apple workers were “clearly under Apple’s control while awaiting, and during, the exit searches.”

    The court dismissed Apple’s argument that bringing a bag to work was an employee convenience that shouldn’t be subject to compensation. It particularly focused on the fact that Apple felt employees didn’t necessarily need to bring their iPhones to work.

    “The irony and inconsistency of Apple’s argument must be noted,” the judges wrote. “Its characterization of the iPhone as unnecessary for its own employees is directly at odds with its description of the iPhone as an ‘integrated and integral’ part of the lives of everyone else.” (In that statement, the court referenced a 2017 Tim Cook interview where he stated that the iPhone was “so so integrated and integral to our lives, you wouldn’t think about leaving home without it.”)

    • l0b0t

      Here in NYC, Macy’s went through similar litigation. Employees had to punch out then queue at the door for a bag search (on top of being required to use only clear bags). For a closing shift, it would often take more than an hour for all of the employees to make it out the door.

      • Lackadaisical

        Jesus. I’d have to add that in to my cost-benefit of taking a job there. Also, this means that my old employer owes me a couple bucks for making us clock in at our desks and not when they checked our IDs at the front gate.

    • leon

      Another tech company that is supposed to be super prestigious to work at, but I have no desire to get a job there.

    • Brett L

      This is not new. All the big construction projects had to pay for bus time when the parking lot was not adjacent to the time clocks.

    • JaimeRoberto Delecto

      I have to side with the employees on that one. But jeez, how long do those searches take?

    • Lackadaisical

      So are you whipping the office girls with the hide of the goat you sacrificed today?

  28. JD is Unemployed

    I’m not sure how long I’ll be able to participate here given the new white paper which is being adopted wholesale as new legislation to make the internets “safe” for me, a citizen of the nanniest of nanny states, free to nanny itself into oblivion now that the EU can’t hold us back from our own nannying any longer! FREEEEDDOOOOOMMMM!!!!

    • Toxteth O’Grady

      JD, are you north or south of the Wash? No need to answer if you prefer not to.

      • JD is Unemployed

        South 🙂

    • l0b0t

      HOLY MACKEREL! I just slogged through that and it’s terrifying. WTF is wrong with people? Why can’t folk just leave other folk alone?

      • JD is Unemployed

        I’m just hoping it’s not too difficult to circumvent if you really want to, or at least opt out of the nannying, which realistically won’t be possible. It’s horrible.

    • robc

      my worksite blocked that link as containing spyware.

      • JD is Unemployed

        Aaah, it may not like nullrefer. I used that because I don’t want a govt website seeing a bunch of referals from glibertarians.com, especially in light of the link’s contents. Try manually inputting without the nullrefer url at the front.

      • robc

        As an aside, 2 questions for you:

        1. How did you vote on Brexit and why? (if you want to tell us – but just curious)

        2. When you going to give up on the UK and come join the rest of us weirdos?

        3. (bonus question) – I have been showing these to my daughter recently, she loves them, what do Brits think about US “propaganda” like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAZ8QJgFHOg

      • JD is Unemployed

        1. I voted to remain, but have since decided I may have been wrong to do that. It’s complicated but I have since come a lot further on my journey to a more enlightened understanding and now on principal would vote to leave, although accepting that simply leaving the EU isn’t an answer in itself, and certainly doesn’t help with my main concern which was that whichever government is formed, from whichever party/parties, it’s largely an illusion of choice, and it’s all the same authoritarian garbage, but in relative terms still a very liberal society for the most part, so I think there’s some hope. I can’t really condense all this down into a short paragraph but, yeah, I voted to remain back in 2016 and four years later I am a different person, or rather the same person with a better understanding. I was more of your “Koch” libertarian then, maybe?

        2. I’m so conflicted. I genuinely like where I live (although I’ll be moving shortly and I’ve no idea where yet), but I absolutely loved my short time in TX. There are pros and cons, but realistically, having checked the priority skills lists for visa applications, I don’t meet any criteria/can’t fulfil any of the priority skills that the USA apparently needs. Funnily enough on my way in CBP grilled me, apparently concerned that I was going to be doing some paid work of some sort.

        3. Haha, I’ve no idea really. I don’t recall being taught much about that period in history. The topic came up recently, and my dad started saying, “it was just a bunch of self-interested businessmen…” and I interjected with “stop; you had me at self-interested businessmen!”

        Dad considers the War Between the States to be the second civil war in American history, if you catch my drift.

      • R C Dean

        simply leaving the EU isn’t an answer in itself

        Still a necessary if not sufficient step toward any solution.

        I am disappointed that Trump didn’t have a trade deal with Britain pre-negotiated and ready to roll on Brexit Day, but I have no doubt the Deep State resisted any directive he might have given along those lines.

        If I were Trump, I’d look for some loose change in the fedgov couch cushions and put up some office towers in, say, Minot and Duluth, ready to take transferred Deep State #Resisters. Pour encoureger les autres. I think Vindman would make an excellent office manager for one of those.

    • Charlie Suet

      I keep seeing contradictory stuff on this. I’ve seen it reported that they’re backing away from it on the basis that the big tech companies just laughed in their faces. What you think it has to do with the EU I have no idea.

      • JD is Unemployed

        Uuuuh, it doesn’t? It’s fully the responsibility of the UK govt, but since a large part of the lobbying for brexit was against nannying “eurocrats” for them to pull shit like this is just proof positive that the nannying doesn’t just go away with Brexit, and it’s very much part of UK political culture.

      • JD is Unemployed

        ps – do you get a fuck off, Tulpa? I think I’ve seen you post before so probably not.

        What limits can they realistically put on access if “BIG TECH” doesn’t comply? Does big tech ultimately have a say if they don’t play along? UK law already gives people recourse to ruin someone’s life over being offended on the internet, regardless of what “platform” they posted on.

      • Charlie Suet

        It’s certainly true that Whitehall is just as capable of this sort of crap as Brussels. I also agree that expecting Britain to become some sort of libertopia is only going to end in disappointment. Particularly when you consider what an absolute shithole this country was in the early 70s…

        I’d suggest the difference is that a superstate can impose its will far more completely than a smallish independent nation state can. If we tried to tell smartphone manufacturers that they’d be making one type of charger from now on, it would be meaningless. When the EU does it, it has teeth (obviously only the happy event of the EU collapsing can remove the problem altogether).

        The other thing is that this white paper would be associated with the Tories, to their political detriment. Bad EU laws aren’t necessarily linked to anyone in particular, because the EU Parliament is such a joke.

      • JD is Unemployed

        Ah gotcha – we’re on the same page, but you express things more eloquently than I.

    • Lackadaisical

      The UK is committed to a free, open and secure internet, and will continue to protect freedom of expression online.

      I’m not sure what you’re worried about. 😉

    • Tundra

      Well said.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      *sigh* need coffee stat

      I’ve had friends who think that if their significant other doesn’t go all out on gifts and hoopla, especially on Valentine’s Day, that it means they aren’t loved.

      My wife is in the middle. Not that level of drama, but her feelings would be hurt if I didn’t make some effort on the holidays. Cook up a steak dinner, write a handwritten note, and give the good lovin’, and she’s happy.

      • Tundra

        Fancy.

        I fixed the vacuum cleaner last night and I was a goddamn hero.

      • Fourscore

        This guy gets it. Just putting a new bag on makes me king. ‘Course I make up a lot of stuff along the way about how difficult it is and takes a really smart person to understand the intricacies of bag changing.

      • Nephilium

        The girlfriend and I were going to go out to do a local event tonight (bar crawl, restaurant discounts, art show, etc.) but I’m on call, and she’s closing at her work. Then her aunt came into town, so she’s going to be with her aunt and grandmother tomorrow night as well.

      • Akira

        The ladyfriend’s idea was for her to buy some steaks, potatoes, and asparagus, and I would cook them for her (since I love to cook). Then we exchanged gifts, watched a movie, and had a little naked time upstairs. It was perfect.

    • JD is Unemployed

      Ah, Sesame Street! (I got the link from the source).

  29. Rufus the Monocled

    Sorry for your loss Yusef. You’ve had your fair share of nut punches and hope you can stay strong and get some good fortune come your way.

  30. robc

    While it doesn’t help the current ones, there is a fix to the student loan crisis. End government guaranteed student loans. Then, any student loans you get will be dischargeable in bankruptcy. Of course, this means you probably can’t get one without a co-signer, and they won’t be happy about you not paying it back.

    • leon

      And the interest rate will be much higher.

      • robc

        And tuition prices will drop dramatically.

      • leon

        And yet it would be seen as a move to keep the poor out of college.

      • Rhywun

        They’ll just go straight to “racist”.

      • Jarflax

        The irony of people calling a plan racist because those people believe that minorities cannot have good credit amuses me.

      • AlexinCT

        Actually I am going to bet they call it racist so they can dismiss it without having to have a real and fact based debate about the plan’s merits. They don’t want the plan, but they know they can’t defend their disdain for it.

      • Florida Man

        I have met some people that when they turned 18, their parents made them signs up for loans/credit cards and maxed them out. I just don’t understand how you can do that to your own kid.

      • Viking1865

        ” I just don’t understand how you can do that to your own kid.”

        My dad used my info to take out loans, in the guise of needing money for emergencies.

        Funny how many emergencies pop up when you quit working full time when your kids are in middle school and just pick up enough money here and there to keep the lights on and food in the fridge.

      • Gadfly

        When really it would only keep out the poor who are unprepared. When I went to college a decade ago there were so many scholarships floating around, I’d imagine there would be no shortage of assistance for those who were both poor and academically gifted. And it would go a lot farther if tuition came down, so many people would probably be getting full rides.

      • Lackadaisical

        *raises hand*

        I ended up paying only for room and board (and even that was subsidized a bit by my scholarships). My family wasn’t even properly poor (though my parents gave me almost nothing monetarily after I turned 18- as it should be).

      • Nephilium

        Won’t someone think of the administrators!

      • Pat

        The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of an expanding bureaucracy.

      • AlexinCT

        And tuition prices will drop dramatically.

        And that’s why it won’t happen. The current system allows these institutions to charge ridiculous prices for sub par value. Not to mention that it would destroy the whole grievance & studies industry that has been responsible for the biggest growth in administrators and academia for the last few decades. Once a school or lending institution can end up on the hook for a loan, how many “womyn studies” or “social warrior studies” applicants do you think will actually get a loan?

  31. Rebel Scum

    Sandy Nurse doesn’t see why she needs to be $120,000 in debt “just for trying to improve my understanding of the world.”

    She DOESN’T need to be. She could just read a book instead of seeking a useless degree.

    The Debt Collective, an organization founded by a group of activists who met during the Occupy Wall Street protests a decade ago, is calling on people with student debt to stop paying it.

    Getting an early start on a lifetime of trying to steal from taxpayers.

    • invisible finger

      Sounds like a degenerate gambler to me.

      • leon

        But it would still be decried as a move to keep the poor out of college.

      • leon

        Damnit I gilmored it.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      You know. People need to understand you don’t need to get romantic about college/university to understand the fricken world. I didn’t. Mind you, I learn’d how retarded and lazy half the students were.

      I also get annoyed by people who travel the world and still manage to not learn a single thing.

      • CampingInYourPark

        Mind you, I learn’d how retarded and lazy half the students were.

        It’s a couple hundred hours out of a lifetime during a period when you’re leaving home and have a lot of competing interests. I never understood why society, in general, has made it such a point of emphasis in being “successful”, at least for someone in their late teens.
        Everyone is different, and all that, but my observation is that most average age college students have no clue as to how they intend to be self-sufficient after they leave home and college is putting the cart before the horse.

  32. SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

    Tired of paying your student loans? Just do this instead!

    Fuck. Them.

    /somebody who is aggressively paying off more student loans than them

    Just $110k to go, then the mortgage, which will hopefully shrink once we move out of this shit hole (no offense NoVa glibs) . ?

    • Raston Bot

      NoVA is a congested shithole. all the fucking traffic and busybody prog assholes. i was born + raised here. we had horse farms and two lane roads and guns and rednecks all over the place. seriously. this was a great place to grow up.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I can see the remains of what once was, and I really like it.

        I tell my wife that there are pockets of good in an ocean of bad. Some small areas are great and rural and tight-knit, and then the commuter drones blast through honking their horns and driving like assholes and remind me that even these little oases are infected and will die soon enough. We meet a family that is nice and friendly, and then we meet 15 people that are obnoxious.

        A couple days ago, my wife and I were talking about our inevitable exit, and she said “I now understand why politics is important when choosing where to live.” Basically, most progs make shitty neighbors, shitty coworkers, and shitty local government officials. They ruin community, they ruin camaraderie, they ruin the places they infest.

      • Akira

        Basically, most progs make shitty neighbors, shitty coworkers, and shitty local government officials. They ruin community, they ruin camaraderie, they ruin the places they infest.

        I’ve casually observed that the people who are rudest to workers in daily interactions are hardcore Leftists who boast about how compassionate they are towards them because they support minimum wage and Medicare for All. One particular relative told a story about how he chewed out a Wal-Mart cashier because they wouldn’t sell him a bottle of wine when he had two young-looking people with him who couldn’t produce ID, then he changed subjects and talked about the wonderful things that Liz Warren is going to do for workers.

        People being rude to employees who are doing their best to help you while also following their instructions (so they can, ya know, pay their bills) just makes me insanely pissed off. I don’t care what kind of problem you have with this company – until you’re talking to a manager or someone who actually makes these policies that piss you off, be fucking polite. It’s not hard. There’s no reason to make someone have a shitty day at work.

      • R C Dean

        until you’re talking to a manager or someone who actually makes these policies that piss you off, be fucking polite.

        People who derive pleasure from abusing front-line workers are one of the main reasons I have such a low opinion of humanity.

        Plus, they almost invariably turn into the biggest ass-kissers when somebody who swings a big dick shows up.

      • Mojeaux

        The lefties who are rude are not the type to be personally charitable.

        They want the government to do it so they don’t have to touch, look at, or interact with the People of Walmart.

        They want to feel righteous, but they don’t want to get their hands dirty.

      • Jarflax

        I know more than one Democrat who in private will admit that the reason they favor extensive welfare is that they do not believe ‘the underclass’, by which they mean black people, can function in the modern world and view extensive welfare as the only way to avoid open class warfare.

        I sometimes wonder how those people are dealing with the growing chunk of their party that is openly calling for class warfare.

      • Mojeaux

        Yes. The white upper class is (always has been) terrified of black people. I don’t know whether this is a cause or effect of the belief that they are an inferior race, but they DO believe that.

  33. Rufus the Monocled

    The debt thing bothers me. I have credit card debt (albeit manageable and too low to matter) and could have easily defaulted on my business loans. I’m still paying one off after nine years. And now I have to focus on paying my family company back.

    It takes sacrifice and guts. That’s nine years of income lost to me but it’s part of the damn game. If you can’t hack it don’t play.

    Millions of people do the right thing and pay. It makes no sense to default under a ‘righteous’ false premise.

    In the end, someone is gonna pay for your mistakes and squelching. Someone always does.

    Declare personal bankruptcy, accept the knocks that come with it, and move on. But spare the ‘civil disobedience’ crap because it isn’t.

    • UnCivilServant

      If you’re bankrupt, you’re bankrupt. It happens.

      Some people need the validation of sanctimony to cover for their actions. It hurts them in the long run, since it prevents the sort of painful evaluation of past choices and planning for future choices they need at such a time.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Exactly. It’s a hard lesson.

    • robc

      Personal bankruptcy doesn’t help with student loans, because they have a government guarantee, so are specifically excluded from bankruptcy discharge. Like tax debt*.

      *although, interestingly, they will work with you on that, and in some cases will let you discharge some of it.

      • UnCivilServant

        Rarely does someone have only one kind of debt when they file for bankruptsy.

        And from what I understand, courts have been known to require sticking to a budget which allows for some repayment in order to get relief. I’d wager it would be a more common occurance when there’s a non-dischargable debt in the stack.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        I’m pretty sure bankruptcy laws are similar between Canada/USA and have known a few people who have declared PB but none had a student debt. So I can’t speak to their experience. All I know is you get wiped (or near wiped) and the deal is you have no (or little – I don’t know) access to credit for about seven years.

      • robc

        Yes, that is about right. My point is, if the reason for your bankruptcy is student loan debt (you may have others, but not enough to push you into bankruptcy) and you can’t discharge it, it doesn’t do much good to file bankruptcy.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Actually, you jogged my memory. One of my loans was a government backed loan (for start ups) and if memory serves me right, I think my lawyer mentioned I can’t declare bankruptcy to get out of it. This was 10 years ago so it’s foggy and I ain’t going into the bin to find the contract.

      • straffinrun

        That’s why we need to remember who the villains are in this story and there are at least three and in this order:

        1. The Government. Brainwashed kids through govt indoctrination camp, known as public school, and get pushed right into these debts.
        2. The Universities. Lower admission standards, crank up tuition fees and go vampire on the necks of students.
        3. The students. They should’ve known better. Their parents should’ve known better.

        Who do you think is going to end up paying for the giant clusterf***k that’s been created? Not gonna be 1 or 2.

      • AlexinCT

        I am also worried it won’t be #3. It will be the students that avoided the massive loan debt and the productive (which likely fall in the first category anyway), that the aggrieved want to straddle with the bill.

      • straffinrun

        #3 is gonna get stuck with a part of it no matter what team blue says. Government never let’s a good host organism go. I just wanna see at least the Unis that took at that sweet lucre get the shaft for a change.

      • AlexinCT

        You really believe that the cuntes selling the “government will fix the problem by robbing those that made the right choices” solution would hurt their allies in academia? I mean, that revolution still needs them academics to produce more idiots for the meat grinder.the

      • robc

        I would favor a “debt forgiveness” bill that split it 3 ways. Sure, let the taxpayers take a 1/3 hit, but make the schools take a 1/3 hit, and dont completely forgive it all, leave 1/3 around.

        And end government guarantees going forward, that has to be part of it.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      To the extent that I feel sympathy for these people (which is near zero), the sympathy is because the system is set up to saddle people in high debt for a long time. Inflated prices, nearly unbankruptable loans, poor job prospects. It’s a nasty combination waiting for you to make one wrong move.

      • Rebel Scum

        I’ll grant that the system is fucked. But I have no sympathy. College should be career oriented. You go to learn something that is marketable. If you want to take grievance studies or some other bs, that’s fine, but I should not be on the hook to pay for it via taxation. I am paying my debt. These people should as well.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Hey, they’re paying $150K so they can learn how to change the world man.

      • AlexinCT

        So they spend 5-7 years partying and then get a Bachelors in Bullshit degree?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I like to remind people that Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and Jeff Bezos actually changed the world by giving people what they wanted and were willing to pay for.

      • Pat

        College should be career oriented.

        I think that’s kind of the problem right there. College should probably be LESS career oriented. Go back to the classical university system. Let the idle rich and the aspiring intelligentsia send their kids there to broaden their minds and immerse themselves in pure intellectual wankery. Everybody else could get by with job training and trade schools for the most part. There’s absolutely no reason whatsoever that business schools should be part of the university system and you should have to piss away 2 years on interdisciplinary bullshit to walk out with your credential, for one example. But instead we’ve got credential inflation because employers need some reasonably objective standard on which to discriminate since most of the sensible ones have been made illegal, so here we are where you need a fucking graduate degree to become an accountant or advanced database administrator.

      • Rebel Scum

        I meant as far as the State requiring one to obtain a piece of paper before being able to work in a given field. Of course, pretty much everything I do on a daily basis could have been learned on the job, even as an engineer.

      • Drake

        Classical education was brutally hard. Greek and Latin, ancient history – often taught in the ancient languages, calculus and algebra, real art history, logic, and real philosophy.

        The “idle rich and the aspiring intelligentsia” are often stupid and would have no hope of passing the kind of education our Founding Fathers experienced.

      • Chipwooder

        Anything is hard compared to critical (fill in the blank) studies

      • R C Dean

        The Debt Collective, an organization founded by a group of activists who met during the Occupy Wall Street protests a decade ago, is calling on people with student debt to stop paying it.

        Of course.

        True story: Talking to a colleague yesterday about student loan forgiveness. He and his kids, naturally, paid all theirs off. However, a friend of his daughter’s hasn’t paid anything, is living in Europe and is apparently a good enough soccer player to get paid for it (although not all that much). She made the conscious decision during the Obama administration to blow off her student loans and “follow her dream” on the belief that Obama would forgive all her student loans. Now she’s screwed – interest piling up, delinquent, etc. but because she’s in Europe they can’t do much. So she’s basically trapped there unless she comes back to face the financial music.

        I looked at him and said “I have zero sympathy for a deadbeat like that. She made her bed and all that.” He agreed. I think the guy challenging Warren on student loan forgiveness speaks for a whole lot of people who played by the rules, and now see a bunch of politicians planning to fuck them to buy votes.

        The “director of the Project on Predatory Student Lending at Harvard University” saying that only for-profit colleges are the problem is obviously just trying to kneecap the competition. I don’t suppose they’ve done a study on student loan debt issues from non-profit colleges, because it sure seems like when you see ridiculous tuition, worthless degrees, and somebody buried for life in student loan debt, there’s often a non-profit that took the money.

        Even forty years ago, I looked around my college and said “A solid majority of the people here have no business being in college. They don’t care about learning, they don’t put any effort into it. They are just here to avoid having to get a job for four years.” I can only imagine its gotten worse since then.

        On a more celebratory note, Mrs. Dean has little use for Valentine’s Day. I don’t care – she gets a nice gift, some flowers, and this year I even remembered to grab a card (from the hospital gift shop, but still). I latch onto holidays to do this because it freaks her out when I’m nice for no reason.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I think the guy challenging Warren on student loan forgiveness speaks for a whole lot of people who played by the rules, and now see a bunch of politicians planning to fuck them to buy votes.

        If Warren and their ilk win on this issue, I see it as an open declaration of war on responsible financial practices, and I will take any action necessary to reduce my exposure to the financial risk that is fedgov.

      • R C Dean

        I will take any action necessary to reduce my exposure to the financial risk that is fedgov.

        You should do that anyway. Our entire financial plan is premised on putting our assets where they will be the most difficult for any government to get.

        I believe in planning ahead. On my to-do list, for example, is to get a sealed container that can fit all my guns (not that many, compared to some of you) while it won’t raise a red flag, and prep a spot to bury it if need be. For financial planning, there is absolutely no substitute for time, doing things well in advance.

      • UnCivilServant

        Don’t forget the cosmoline

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Getting down to brass tacks, it’s about assessing the risk of fedgov raiding the retirement accounts. As of now, it makes sense for me to dump everything into tax advantaged accounts. Fees and taxes are guaranteed, returns are not.

        However, If they do student loan forgiveness, I’m going to try to find a way to invest in a less trackable manner. I think that IRA raiding will start less than 10 years after student loan forgiveness.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        it’s about assessing the risk of fedgov raiding the retirement accounts.

        This is a high concern for me.

      • R C Dean

        As of now, it makes sense for me to dump everything into tax advantaged accounts.

        Absolutely. I do the same.

        Retirement planning is a long game. I’m in my mid-50s, so my horizon is 40 years. i may not burn down my 401k/403b first, depending on how things look at the time. Do I think they will come, one way or another, to some significant degree, for all retirement accounts in the next 40 years? You bet your ass I do. I think they will say if you want your retirement account to qualify for tax advantages, it has to be X% invested in “safe” investments, meaning Treasuries. This will fire up (again) after the next stock market crash. So it could be a lot sooner than later.

        My IRAs are already stashed behind a firewall (one that makes little sense for people not in our somewhat unique position). When it starts looking high-risk, previously suboptimal options like using them to buy an annuity may be become more attractice.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    I guess I need to get my eyes checked. I looked at that stupid hat, and I couldn’t tell what in the fuck it was supposed to be. I thought it was abstract art of some sort. Kind of like when I look at a tee shirt and it just looks like somebody spilled a plate of spaghetti on it.

    • ChipsnSalsa

      It is really terrible, too much trying to happen on a hat. It’s so small to have so much stuff.

      Also, hello?!? Catholic cultural appropriation.

      • Rhywun

        OFFS.

  35. Rebel Scum

    Donald J. Trump✔
    @realDonaldTrump

    I’m seeing Governor Cuomo today at The White House. He must understand that National Security far exceeds politics. New York must stop all of its unnecessary lawsuits & harrassment, start cleaning itself up, and lowering taxes. Build relationships, but don’t bring Fredo!

    Heh. He also called msnbc by msnDc the other day. Best timeline.

    • Rebel Scum

      msDNC, even.

      *gets coffee*

      • RAHeinlein

        msnDc actually works – swamp.

    • UnCivilServant

      Hah! Andy won’t do any of that. Except maybe leaving Fredo in the kennel.

    • CPRM

      If his tweets were all audio clips it would make my job a lot easier.

      • AlexinCT

        Sounds like you have an idea there for a new social media engine that should make you the next billionaire? Bernie is standiing in the shadows and rubbing his hands together, BTW…

      • UnCivilServant

        We only have the greatest audio. The best.

      • Gadfly

        Considering how much he likes to talk, I’m surprised no one has made a soundboard of his words so you can construct any quote you want.

      • Rebel Scum

        Can’t find it now but the is a Trump soundboard app. I have it on my phone and occasionally annoy the gf with it.

      • Lackadaisical

        But its the inflection and such that really makes the delivery. Not sure how you incorporate that into a sound board.

  36. Toxteth O’Grady

    Hayek, no incoming e-mail. I have a referral for you. I can post it here if you like but that seems unwise. Nicely written GoFundMe, btw.

    Playa, I replied very belatedly to you in the last thread.

    No Glibs in Vegas? ☹️

    • Pat

      No Glibs in Vegas? ☹️

      I’m close.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      I’m close

    • AlexinCT

      That judge knows how the Clintons dealt with Seth. You thinks he wants to commit suicide by double tap to the back of the head?

  37. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Barr is correct to tell Trump to STFU, if only for Trumps’ benefit.

    I have some small sliver of hope that Barr will bring some of the shenanigans to light, I would rather Trump not torpedo the effort during one of his Diet Coke fueled midnight Twitter spasms.

    • Chipwooder

      Honestly? I think this is a bit of gamesmanship that was planned by Trump and Barr together. Doesn’t hurt to make the AG appear a bit more independent than he’s currently being portrayed.

      • AlexinCT

        I am with you on this Chipper. Every time I see one of these stunts that gets the team blue idiots all excited about the opportunity too hurt orange man, and they enthusiastically embrace the chance to go after him, it tends to blow up in their face. Watch Trump go quiet, and Barr suddenly lay down the smack, and the lefty idiots will have no way to accuse Barr of following evil orange man’s directive and demand impeachment. Again…

  38. Tejicano

    A couple days ago I mentioned that my mother-in-law had passed away. The funeral and cremation are scheduled for next Monday. I don’t know how much most people know about how Japanese do cremations – I’ve been through a couple and at one point it can be just slightly gruesome.

    After a Japanese cremation is done there are always some bits of bone leftover in the ashes. The gathered family uses special sets of chopsticks to collect the bones and put them in the urn. They pass the bits of bone to each other with the chopsticks (this is why one never passes food chopstick-to-chopstick).

    I’m not looking forward to this ritual – handling my mother-in-law’s bones – but this is part of the routine. I suppose it helps people to get it clear in their heads that the loved one has really gone.

    • straffinrun

      Sorry to hear that. Forget what it’s called, but we do the scheduled visits to the grandparents’ graves. I’m going to be put in the family grave when my time comes. Someone’s gonna be holding my bone someday.

      • Tejicano

        My family happens to be part of some old Buddhist sect which has a shared crypt for everybody. I once had to help move some of the extended family’s urns into that crypt. It’s a weird feeling knowing that I’ve already been inside the place where my remains will be kept for a long, long time.

      • straffinrun

        That means you’re family is going to have to buy a Buddhist name for you when you kick it. Those things cost an arm and leg (bone).

      • Tejicano

        I wish I could opt for a Comanche name. Some of those are pretty cool.

        I just read a book about the Comanche. The author mentioned a number of famous Comanche names – some of which were not translated into English correctly for obvious reasons. The famous war chief “Buffalo Hump”, for example. His real name was “Erection that never goes down”.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Not Isatai’i (coyote vagina)?

        Sure he was a top notch con-man but that shouldn’t stop you from having a kick ass name.

      • Chipwooder

        hahahahahahahaha

        Isatai’i tried to absolve himself of the blame for the disastrous defeat by claiming that his magic had been weakened before the battle when one of the Cheyennes violated a sacred taboo by killing a skunk. The Cheyennes took this poorly, especially the Dog Soldiers, and responded by beating him severely. Isatai’i was discredited and publicly humiliated.

      • Gadfly

        I wonder how he got a name like that. Like, was he named that from birth (in which case, why, parents?) or did he do something that earned him that epithet?

      • R C Dean

        Yeah, it seems weird that the first thing his father saw when he was born was a coyote vagina.

      • Chipwooder

        Read the link – it wasn’t a name given by his parents. It was a derisive nickname.

        Originally named Kwihnai Tosabitʉ (White Eagle), after the debacle at Adobe Walls on June 27, 1874, for which he was blamed, he was known as Isatai’i.

      • Private Chipperbot

        Someone’s gonna be holding my bone someday

        I. I thought we were talking about funeral arrangements.

    • Toxteth O’Grady

      Yeesh. Condolences to you as well.

    • Shirley Knott

      I’m sorry for your loss.

    • Fourscore

      Vietnamese take a lot of pictures of the dead person. Its somewhat unusual for me at least.

  39. Rebel Scum

    SPACE SMITH?

    Mysterious radio signals from space have been known to repeat, but for the first time, researchers have noticed a pattern in a series of bursts coming from a single source half a billion light-years from Earth.

    Fast radio bursts, or FRBs, are millisecond-long bursts of radio waves in space. Individual radio bursts emit once and don’t repeat. But repeating fast radio bursts are known to send out short, energetic radio waves multiple times. And usually when they repeat, it’s sporadic or in a cluster, according to previous observations.

    Between September 16, 2018 and October 30, 2019, researchers with the Canadian Hydrogen Intensity Mapping Experiment/Fast Radio Burst Project collaboration detected a pattern in bursts occurring every 16.35 days. Over the course of four days, the signal would release a burst or two each hour. Then, it would go silent for another 12 days.

    • robc

      SOS?

      • Rhywun
      • Gadfly

        ewwwww…

  40. Tres Cool

    To my beloved:

    If you’ll be my Valentine, I’ll shower you with affection.
    And since Im not like other guys
    You prolly wont get an infection.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      *chuckle*

  41. Drake

    Could Former Naval Intelligence Officer Pete Buttigieg Be a CIA Asset?

    Seems a conspiracy too far for me, but I am also baffled at how the former Mayor of a really shiity small city is running second in the Dem primaries. Tucker Carlson has theorized that he is robot programmed by big tech and finance to say all the right things.

    • Rhywun

      Tucker isn’t the only one to notice that.

    • Tonio

      Lizard person. He’s their best work yet.

    • Fourscore

      I laugh, I scoff, at Pete’s “Combat Experiences”. Go to a VA hospital, like Walter Reed, talk to some of the troops there, Pete, and learn what combat is like.

      • Drake

        He was the prototypical Fobbitt.

      • Chipwooder

        As was I! The difference is, I don’t go around trying to impress people with my “war stories”.

  42. Gender Traitor

    I think Mr. First Date misunderstood what the dating app meant by “swipe.”

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      If only I could actually get those.

      • robc

        clap clap clap

    • robc

      We used Song of Solomon for the bible reading at our wedding. Our pastor gave it a big thumbs up, most couples arent willing to do it.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        While I like the fawning over each other, I’m assuming because of cultural differences the exact verbiage of the compliments don’t always come across so great.

        I will however, “come into his garden and taste its choice fruits” That one comes across all cultures and times.

      • robc

        my hands dripped with myrrh,
        my fingers with flowing myrrh,

      • Tundra
      • robc

        This one is not even subtle:

        Your stature is like that of the palm,
        and your breasts like clusters of fruit.
        I said, “I will climb the palm tree;
        I will take hold of its fruit.”

      • Old Man With Candy

        We used Psalm 137.

      • Jarflax

        Not 127?

      • Tres Cool

        Not Pslam 69 ?

      • Tres Cool

        While Im at it- Hymn 43

  43. The Late P Brooks

    Lessons learned?

    And after the Justice Department disavowed the government’s sentencing recommendations for Stone, all four federal prosecutors working on the case resigned.

    “I don’t like this chain of events,” Collins said on Wednesday. “The President weighs in, all of a sudden, Justice comes back and says, ‘Change the deal.’ I think most people in America would look at that and say, ‘Hmm, that just doesn’t look right.’ And I think they’re right.”

    To be honest, I’d like to see grandstanding federal prosecutors slapped down on a regular basis.

    • straffinrun

      Aren’t we supposed to be in favor of loosening criminal sentencing? Or is that only for MS 13 members?

  44. Rebel Scum

    I don’t get back, I get even.

    “Look, you can have grievances with James Comey,” Toobin said. “The idea he committed a crime is absurd. The person in a really perilous condition right now is the CNN contributor Andrew McCabe, who is under investigation from the U.S. Attorney’s office right now. And, you know, has had his case dangling out there. The president obviously wants Andy McCabe prosecuted and it’s just grotesque that you have the President of the United States behaving this way with the power of prosecution exercised in this way.”

    “What he’s saying is if Flynn and Stone are going to go to jail or be in jail, shouldn’t Comey and as you say Mccabe. That’s how he feels,” Lemon said, channeling Trump’s view.

    “But they did different things!” an exasperated Toobin pointed out. “There’s just — you know, the facts are not — the facts are not identical. So, I mean, just because he likes the two who are prosecuted and doesn’t like the people who weren’t prosecuted, that’s not a reason.”

    As the panel laughed in a moment of gallows humor, CNN contributor Garrett Graff weighed in: “That’s the danger of what he’s trying to do to the Justice Department. He doesn’t understand why he can’t direct which people should be heading to jail and which shouldn’t.”

    “There’s this old authoritarian line: ‘For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law,’” Post columnist Catherine Rampell added. “And for Trump it’s ‘For my friends, everything; for my enemies, whatever that I conceive of the law and all these imaginary crimes to be.’”

    The chief law enforcement officer says “what”? I dare say that the president doesn’t get to decide what a sentence/verdict is, but he can direct a prosecution.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I suppose the real difference is Trump can’t keep his trap shut about it. Does anyone doubt for a moment that Obama directed political prosecutions?

      • Pat

        Obama didn’t exactly make any secret out of it either, it’s just that nobody in the media world gave a shit and then pretended like all of the rest of us didn’t notice either. Not that Obama was unique in that regard either.

      • straffinrun

        Obama didn’t even need to say it. The press and Holder knew what he wanted and obliged.

      • AlexinCT

        And they often helped him get what he wanted by either ignoring the criminal activities or shilling them outright as good things for Obama. Ask that reporter that was spied on by the NSA. Ask all the reporters and others that were thrown in the clink because of “national security” issues. Of course, don’t go ask HRC, cause she really fucked national security in the ass (look up Skolkovo) and that’s not even about the servers in some bathroom that were sending & receiving classified emails she had wiped with a cloth.

      • Chipwooder

        Using the IRS to investigate and punish your political opponents is much more egregious than anything Trump has done, but good luck finding a “journalist” who gives a shit about it.

      • AlexinCT

        They targeted Nazis and deplorables! That’s a good thing.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: If Twitter didn’t exist Trump would be held in much higher regard and would likely win in a 1984-style landslide in November (as opposed to the smaller landslide he’ll probably win by). None of what he does is new, he’s just loud about it.

      • Gadfly

        I don’t think Trump wins in any kind of landslide unless the Dems feel the Bern. Which is not outside the realm of possibility, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

      • Mojeaux

        He will.

        I predicted early on that Hillary would lose (note I did not say that Trump would win). She was that awful and all MY lib friends were voting against Trump. They did not like her one bit.

        Now, he’s proven himself to be a friend of Joe Sixpack AND he’s pissing off all the people who hate deplorables.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m worried about what happens in 2024. I doubt he’ll have made enough of a dent in the swamp, and there’s not really another suitable combatant waiting in the wings.

      • R C Dean

        Way too early to worry about 2024.

        In the longish run, I have little doubt that we will pretty much revert to the mean, which would be a corruptocrat quasi-fascist state that maintains its grip on power with bread and circuses and some kind of Chinese/Brit style Total Surveillance State. I doubt that there’s anything to be done to stop this. The game is postponing it as long as possible and hoping for some unforeseeable shift in underlying sentiment to prevent it.

        In the meantime, plan accordingly. Stay off social media, build your financial reserves, and protect them as best you can. When I retire, I plan to burn down my 401K and 453b accounts first, because I think they will eventually be forced to invest more and more in Treasuries, which is a form of confiscation in my book.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m not so defeatist as to think that condition is inevitable, or even metastable. It’s a matter of measuring how long the cycle takes and figuring out how destructive the transitions will be.

      • R C Dean

        I think we’re probably not far apart, UnCiv. I think between the Total Administrative State and the rampant current corruption, there’s not a political solution (“anything to be done to stop this”). But there are underlying currents and cycles I don’t think we grasp (“unforeseeable shift in underlying sentiment”).

        Totalitarianism delayed is totalitarianism denied. If the Left has made an error, its in jumping past authoritarianism, where they would have had enthusiastic allies, to totalitarianism, which is making non-crazy/stupid people hit the brakes. Of course, totalitarianism is in the Left’s DNA, so they probably couldn’t help it.

      • CampingInYourPark

        I suppose the real difference is Trump can’t keep his trap shut about it.

        Why should he keep his trap shut? Stone got railroaded for process violations during an investigation of a manufactured “crime”. I only wish he’d yap more about everyone else that gets put away for the same type of BS.

    • leon

      “But they did different things!” an exasperated Toobin pointed out. “There’s just — you know, the facts are not — the facts are not identical. So, I mean, just because he likes the two who are prosecuted and doesn’t like the people who weren’t prosecuted, that’s not a reason.”

      So his position is that the prosecution against Flynn and Stone is deserved? because they are being prosecuted for something rather flimsy. And their appears to be some extreem misconduct on the part of Flynn’s case.

      But I wager they would argue that the prosectuions can’t be political because why would the president direct a political investigation into his friends. He would squash it. Which is what they are accusing him of doing right now. It never enters their calculus that the FBI operatives might have their own political agendas. They are arguing a position where the Presidents friends must be prosecuted for everything and have the book thrown at them, but enemies who have done egregious things should be free to go.

  45. Hyperion

    Happy Valentine’s Day, wokesters.

    • Rebel Scum

      *unzips*

  46. Pat

    You like me! You really like me! — Bloomberg pays social media ‘micro-influencers’ $150 to make him sound cool

    Mike Bloomberg is cool. Don’t believe it? Just ask the social media mavens being paid to say so.

    Who says you can’t buy popularity? Billionaire Bloomberg’s campaign, which has already burned through $300 million on television ads boosting his late-starting presidential campaign. is plunking down big bucks to pay “social-media influencers” to say why they like Mike on Instagram and Twitter.

    For $150, the so-called influencers can extol the virtues of America’s richest presidential candidate, and the only rules Bloomberg boosters must adhere to are to avoid crass profanities and try to keep their clothes on.

    The campaign also wants the influencers to be U.S. residents.

    “Show+Tell why Mike is the candidate who can change our country for the better, state why YOU think he’s a great candidate,” Bloomberg’s campaign wrote in a post on Tribe, a site that matches up brands with some 70,000 social-media influencers.

    Please clap

    • Juvenile Bluster

      Where can I get my $150? I never get my Koch/Soros shill checks, so at least someone’s paying.

      Dude’s worth about $58 billion. If he wants to throw away $300 million of that on a vanity Presidential campaign I don’t have a problem.

    • Rebel Scum

      Mike!

    • AlexinCT

      Government lets you keep more of their money?

    • WTF

      Yeah, letting people keep their own money is pretty much the opposite of socialism.

    • Rebel Scum

      They think socialism is welfare, and they think not taking is welfare. So not taking is “socialism”.

  47. The Late P Brooks

    Back to the “Improving your understanding of the world” thing.

    I never “monetized” my degree in any meaningful way, but it did, in fact, help me to greatly expand my understanding of the world, and I do not regret it one bit. If that person understands the world no more now than she did before college, one might say she deserves a refund, but I suspect the failure is exclusively hers.

    Tough titties, hon.

  48. Not Adahn

    Advice or ideas from our Canadianan contingent:

    My ladyfriend French prof is going to be teaching a summer class in Montreal. Typically, she ditches her students for a weekend and we go see someplace new. In past years we’ve done Montreal, Quebec City and Ottawa.

    Frankly, I think Q.C. is adorable, but she is one of those people that thinks she has to accomplish something on trips so it must be something new since we’ve been there so many times. So, any ideas? We’re looking for something that could be a decent weekend trip leaving from Montreal. I’ll have my car. No flights. Early June timeframe.

    • DEG

      I’ve heard good things about the Gaspé Penninsula, but that might be a bit far for a weekend trip.

    • Gadfly

      Frankly, I think Q.C. is adorable, but she is one of those people that thinks she has to accomplish something on trips so it must be something new since we’ve been there so many times. So, any ideas?

      If by ladyfriend you mean S.O., then go to Q.C. and try a new position.

      • Not Adahn

        More intermittent than significant. Although 15 years seems like an awfully long time to sustain a FWB relationship.

  49. Yusef drives a Kia

    Hello Glibs

    • UnCivilServant

      How are you holding up?

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Horrible, I’m alone, I have you guys, but IRL, I wish I had a shoulder,

      • Chipwooder

        I can understand that. Know that we wish we could do more to help you.

      • MikeS

        I’m so sorry for your loss, Bob. Hang in there, and let us know any way we can help you. We’re here for you, buddy.

    • Nephilium

      Bob, you’ve got my e-mail address. Reach out if there’s anything I can do to help.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I wish you could, I don’t know what to do with her body, cremation yes, But I can’t think straight right now, OTOH I can’t just walk away.

    • Tejicano

      Hello Bob. Wishing for things to get easier on you. All I can do from here is pray, so I will.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I would say Throw me a bone, but that would be tacky…

      • ChipsnSalsa

        dark humor for a dark time.

    • DEG

      Hello.

      Did you at least get some sleep last night?

      Let us know if we can help.

    • tarran

      Dude,

      I can’t imagine what you are going through right now. My deepest sympathies. 🙁

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        It’s very quiet and peaceful in BhC, which is a good thing, and Bella keeps me warm, really, she’s a frickin space heater, and she knows,

    • gbob

      Just heard this morning. My heart goes out to you. It may just be online, but we’re here for you in any way. It’s hard to imagine what you must be going through. Not much of a praying man, but you have them today.

    • mindyourbusiness

      Like GBob, just heard this morning. Rest if you can, and take time to grieve. For your sake, I wish there were a handy shoulder.
      We’re here for you.

  50. The Late P Brooks

    Aren’t we supposed to be in favor of loosening criminal sentencing? Or is that only for MS 13 members?

    We need to free up prison cells for the true criminal class, like Roger Stone.

    And billionaires.

    • leon

      We need to free up prison cells for the true criminal class, like Roger Stone Anyone associated with Trump.

      Unfortunately this is actually what they think.

  51. Hyperion

    I love the link about the ‘activists’ who aren’t going to pay their loans. Good advice you’re giving people, you fucking retards.

    What really makes these people useful idiots is that they are totally unaware that all of the free shit they want is not free. It’s going to cost them 50-60% of their income, if they have any, and most any freedom they still have left. Much woke, many brave, fucking tards.

  52. The Late P Brooks

    Yusef- I hope you got some sleep, and a little ease, last night.

    • Pat

      Since I rarely check in on anything but the morning links I had no idea what was going on, but I’d like to join the others as well in offering my condolences.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I’m burnt out, but I can’t stop….

  53. Bill Door

    I thought this song was a better fit for the day.

    In all reality, the wife and I have been together for 12 years and luckily she feels the same as most here about Hallmark holidays, which makes me appreciate her all the more.

  54. The Late P Brooks

    College should probably be LESS career oriented. Go back to the classical university system. Let the idle rich and the aspiring intelligentsia send their kids there to broaden their minds and immerse themselves in pure intellectual wankery. Everybody else could get by with job training and trade schools for the most part. There’s absolutely no reason whatsoever that business schools should be part of the university system and you should have to piss away 2 years on interdisciplinary bullshit to walk out with your credential, for one example. But instead we’ve got credential inflation because employers need some reasonably objective standard on which to discriminate since most of the sensible ones have been made illegal, so here we are where you need a fucking graduate degree to become an accountant or advanced database administrator.

    This.

    • AlexinCT

      Which is why it won’t happen. That ship has sailed, and the peddlers of collectivism will not allow us to go back to the way things were without bloodshed.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I’m mildly optimistic about IT workers. I’m seeing more and more junior devs who only have an AA from a community college or just went to a coding boot camp.

        When I started out, the few guys I knew who worked in IT without a BS were always getting screwed on raises because they didn’t have a degree and couldn’t job jump as easily. Now no one cares if you have an actual college degree.

        In the Twin Cities there are a couple good coding camps that not only teach you how to do the basic development stuff, but also help place new grads. It seems to be working well, but that is with a great jobs market. Hopefully it holds up if things slow down a bit.

      • invisible finger

        IT has changed quite a bit. So many places are splitting out programming from business analysis; years ago you needed to be able to do both. Business analysis benefits from a more well-rounded education.

      • AlexinCT

        Agreed. My company has this fixation with big name schools, but my experience has been that these kids are usually not going to be good or stay because the job is not “cool” enough, and have actually been steering their hiring towards kids that are more interested in actually learning new things and most often come from less prestigious institutions. I also think the jump in hiring comes because H1Bs have also been drastically curtailed recently, and employers now can’t just go hire on the cheap, your holiness.

        We had a recent kid that had a Harvard masters leave after 10 days on the job and after a code check-in to our SCM tool that read “Fuck this lame company and the stupid way they do business. I know more than the CIO”. He then just never again showing up and his leadership finally admitted the had a problem AFTER I pointed the comment out to them a month later. I swear their replay was “But he came from Harvard, how could he do something so unprofessional!”

      • Lackadaisical

        Thats incredible.

    • CampingInYourPark

      Go back to the classical university system. Let the idle rich and the aspiring intelligentsia send their kids there to broaden their minds and immerse themselves in pure intellectual wankery. Everybody else could get by with job training and trade schools for the most part.

      If parents or students had to pay their way through university, instead of given the choice of getting a loan they wouldn’t otherwise be eligible for, this would happen all on it’s own.

    • invisible finger

      I would mostly agree.

      But supply and demand has a lot to do with it. After I got a two-year degree in data processing, I started looking for a entry-level job. At one interview, the guy told me “I know if I hired you, you would do a great job. But there are so many people with 4-year degrees applying for this position that my boss won’t let me hire you. My advice is to continue your education for a 4-year degree.”

      Not something I wanted to hear. Especially since that was going to cost me more money and force me to live at home longer than I wanted. But the market rules all. I found a lower-paying full-time job 14 months later, after I transferred to a 4-year school. The pay wasn’t enough to move out, but I was able to work full time and continue as a full-time student (with the minimum class load possible). I had no other life outside of work and school for 2 more years, but so what.

      The point here though is when I chose a school to transfer to, I had three good options. I chose the one that had the best-rated job placement program. (Although my crummy job meant more to employers than the degree.) It annoys me to no end that these students enroll in college ostensibly to get a decent job, but they choose schools that don’t do jack shit for job placement.

  55. Rebel Scum

    Capitalist propaganda is destroying children’s cartoons.

    In this world, politicians are presented as incompetent or unethical and the state, either incapable of delivering or unwilling to provide basic social services to citizens, relies on the PAW Patrol corporation to investigate crime, rescue non-human animals in states of distress, and recycle. I argue that the series suggests to audiences that we can and should rely on corporations and technological advancements to combat crime and conserve, with responsibilized individuals assisting in this endeavor. Ultimately, PAW Patrol echoes core tenets of neoliberalism and encourages complicity in a global capitalist system that (re)produces inequalities and causes environmental harms.

    • Juvenile Bluster

      They never once reference Ryder and his crew getting paid. When my daughter was young enough to love that show I always assumed they were a part of the governmental services of the city.

      • Chipwooder

        It never even occurred to me to wonder who was paying them, since they’re fictional cartoon animals and I’m not a Marxist sociopath. It’s like the people who gnash their teeth about Thomas the Tank Engine – what the fuck is wrong with them??

      • Juvenile Bluster

        I’m fine with bashing Thomas. Sodor is a horrible dystopia.

      • Chipwooder

        Aw, I liked Thomas.

        Except that time the Fat Conductor bricked James up in the tunnel. That was a total dick move.

    • Pat

      Somebody send him a boxed set of Captain Planet and the Planeteers

    • Hyperion

      “In this world, politicians are presented as incompetent or unethical”

      Yeah, but what’s the problem?

    • AlexinCT

      Someone should remind her that people like her that we just had a showcase of how well the claim that they – those that believe in a big government credentialed class calling the shots – will run things play out with the way that the democrat primary caucus happened in Iowa. That’s how they will run healthcare and anything else. Only they will hide all the failures because of a complicit media and the ability to criminally destroy anyone trying to highlight their dysfunction.

    • leon

      But does she argue that the potrayal of government and politicians is wrong?

    • ChipsnSalsa

      Writing something like that should be a flag for dismissal from a institution of learning. But in this case he is a college professor, so he’s fine.

  56. Juvenile Bluster

    So after seeing that rah rah law and order paragraph in my kid’s “G.R.A.D.E.” (modern DARE with things like bullying included) essay (referenced in last night’s open thread):

    As my final point, I’d like to talk about laws. Laws are a set of rules that must be followed. Laws play a very important role in society. Laws are critical because they represent punishment for things like crime, murder; etc. Without laws society would be a mess due to there being no rules or punishment. Because of laws, jail, and other things, there’s not as much crime as there would be. Laws help society in many ways as well, because they prevent substance abuse and bullying.

    I talked to her about it a bit last night. She said she didn’t believe what she said in that paragraph (I’ve talked to her about that stuff before) but knew she had to put it in to get a good grade, So at least she’s smart enough to know what she has to do to get ahead in a “public” (actually charter) school.

    • Pat

      There’s nothing really too far off the mark until the conclusion. Having laws works better than not having laws if for no other reason than socializing retribution has less disruptive consequences for society. Since she’s attending school she obviously knows better than to actually believe that laws do anything to stop bullying or substance abuse.

  57. Pope Jimbo

    Today is V-day? That is awkward. Now I get why Tundra was so insistent that we have lunch today.

    I’m glad I wore my sexy* underwear today.

    *sexy = the clean pair

    • Tundra

      *waggles eyebrows suggestively*

      • AlexinCT

        GET A ROOM!

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        they have to wait til Tres and I are done with it……..

      • Tres Cool

        #FullHomo

  58. The Late P Brooks

    Ultimately, PAW Patrol echoes core tenets of neoliberalism and encourages complicity in a global capitalist system that (re)produces inequalities and causes environmental harms.

    Oh.

  59. Juvenile Bluster

    New Remy video!

    TOS still does three things right: Volokh, Remy and Stossel.

    • Chipwooder

      2Chili still writes good stuff, though only they only run his pieces sporadically.

    • Raston Bot

      thanks. i haven’t caught any of his stuff in a while.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      watch Stossel on his channel, give him the views, not TOS

    • ChipsnSalsa

      Kill shot at the end!

      “Like a Biden meet & greet”

    • leon

      IDK about Volokh. Every one of their articles ends up being way to Lawyerly and represents a lot of the bulshit that drives me insane about beltway libertarianism. e.g. I read one last night about Bernie’s idea for Court Packing (by another name and mechanism). He just had to through out that he was sympathetic to the complaints from the left about the process of Kavenaughs approval to the Bench.

      Really? What part did you not like? From what i can tell he thought there should have been more investigation on the 3 decade old claims taht had no clear way to divine. In other-words any decision but to block him would be a no go.

  60. DEG

    The red flags started waving early: Castillo’s prospective girlfriend picked him up from his parents’ home in Chepachet, Rhode Island, and drove him 30 minutes east, toward North Attleboro, Massachusetts, while he drank wine in the passenger’s seat. Castillo then allegedly asked her to pull in to the Bristol County Savings Bank for a moment.

    Sounds like she found a winner there. I’m surprised she was willing to pick him up.

  61. Certified Public Asshat

    If I have my two small kids with me, after I’ve unloaded my groceries into my car, I get my kids out of the cart & buckled into their car seats. I’m not leaving them alone in the car to go find the cart corrals. I do my best to get it out of the way, but I guess I am that person!— Lindsay McCaul (@lindsaymccaul) February 13, 2020

    1. Your kids will survive in the car while you find the cart corral.
    2. The cart corral is right there. There are multiple ones in the parking lot and they are never hard to find.

    • Pat

      Yeah, the kids are going to be nabbed by ninja organ thieves in the 30 second it would take you to haul your lazy bitch ass 20 feet to the cart return.

      • Pope Jimbo

        To be fair, ninja organ thieves are much faster than the old traditional ninja piano thieves because of the weight reduction.

      • UnCivilServant

        I thought pipe organs weighed more than pianos. Aren’t they architectural elements as much as instruments?

    • invisible finger

      WTF? When I was 5, my mom made me bring the cart back into the store.

    • gbob

      As a side gig, I started being a shopper for Instacart. Basically, I sit in the grocery store, and when an order comes in, I pick up the groceries and stage them for an employee to carry them out to the car. Mostly it’s sitting around, reading books. Not too shabby a gig. No bosses, no coworkers, and easy money for what I do. It has, however, given me a greater hatred for people’s behavior in grocery stores.

      Pet peeves.

      Elderjams: When old people take up an entire aisle talking with each other, making it impossible to go around.

      Spreaders: People who pick an item off the shelf, then decide they don’t want it and put it in an entirely different section. Who changes their mind on eggs and puts a carton on a cereal shelf? Jesus.

      Whalecade: Fat chicks who block an entire section of the store with no way to move your cart around them.

      Brain freezers: It’s just buying ice cream. You don’t need to make your decision with an open freezer door. Decide what flavor you want before opening it. It also shouldn’t take ten fucking minutes to make that choice.

      Brit carts: Assholes who move their cart on the left hand side instead of the right. I hate cops, but if I ever took over the world, all traffic cops would be taken off the streets and put in grocery stores to enforce basic laws of cart traffic.

      I guess the real message is one we all know here. People are terrible.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        You left out the scooters, those drive me insane

      • ChipsnSalsa

        people are monsters

      • Raston Bot

        i hate when they leave the freezer door open so long that when they finally close it the condensation makes it impossible to read what’s on the shelf.

      • Gadfly

        I hate cops, but if I ever took over the world, all traffic cops would be taken off the streets and put in grocery stores to enforce basic laws of cart traffic.

        These two statements are perfectly compatible, as I imagine the cops won’t be happy to be put on grocery duty.

    • Mojeaux

      Smart moms park as close to the cart corral as possible.

      Look, people will stick their noses in your business without blinking an eye and call the police or break your car window if they see kids unattended in a car before you can get back from the corral.

      Once, I had my tweens in the back seat of the truck without AC on a hot day. The doors being what they are, they have to be maneuvered to get the back one open. It’s hard to do from the inside (but doable). I got out of the truck to go around to the passenger side to let them out, and before I rounded the passenger fender, an old man on a smoking bench said, “Better get them kids out of that hot truck.”

      I gave him my death stare and said in my best redneck, “Are you mindin’ my business, old man?”

      He took one look at my face, looked away, and said, “No, ma’am, I am not.”

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        “Are you mindin’ my business, old man?” I’m using that one, Thanks Mo!

      • Nephilium

        I always park as close to the cart corral as I can. I’ve also attempted to teach the girlfriend that when you’re buying something large or unwieldy, you park by the exit of the store, not the entrance (assuming there’s a difference).

      • R C Dean

        I always park as close to the cart corral as I can.

        But not next to it, unless you like that “scratch and dent” look on your car.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        You point the wheelbarrow the direction you want to go after it’s full.

    • UnCivilServant

      The cart corral is right there. There are multiple ones in the parking lot and they are never hard to find

      And yet, 10-50% of the parking spaces near to the entrance are clogged with discarded carts while the cart corral sits empty. (The rest have cars in them)

    • Lackadaisical

      The only thing that scares me about leaving my kid in the car for 2 minutes while I do something is all the nanny’s in society looking over my shoulder thinking they know how to raise my son better than I do. To them I say: FOAD.

  62. Pope Jimbo

    Uffda. And the Minnesoda GOP wonders why they lose to the DFL so often….

    Sen. Roger Chamberlain, R-Lino Lakes, isn’t sold on his own plan to make large social media companies like Facebook and Twitter pay to operate in Minnesota.

    “I’m not a big fan of tax increases,” he said.

    Still, Chamberlain introduced a bill that would require social media companies with more than 100,000 users in Minnesota to register and pay an annual fee — the amount to be determined — while establishing a “social media impact fund.”

    Another piece of legislation would require new cellphones and log-in screens for social media sites to carry this warning:

    Social media use is addictive. Excessive use of mobile devices and social media platforms may lead to mental health disorders, reduced productivity, lack of sleep and social alienation.

    A few other senators, nearly all fellow Republicans, have signed onto Chamberlain’s bills. However, he said the goal of the legislation isn’t necessarily to pass the bills into law — it’s about starting a conversation about the mental health issues linked to increased social media use.

    I mean, they are starting a conversation just like the DFL!

    • Tundra

      A good reminder that slavers are slavers, regardless of logo.

    • Q Continuum

      “Give money to my failing campaign or I’ll drop out!”

      Seems like a win-win to Dem zillionaires.

      • AlexinCT

        TOO BIG TO FAIL!

        Cost us tax payers about $2 trillion last time.

    • Jarflax

      Wow, usually I have to pay for things I desperately want. Here is a fantastic gift we all get, but only if we don’t pay?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      In December, Israel unveiled a separate laser weapon that it hopes it will be using in the near future to shoot down bombs that Palestinian terrorists strap to balloons.

      And then the Israelis will be blamed for dropping the Palestinians own bombs on them.

    • Swiss Servator

      Jew shoot a laser? No, did jew?

      • Rebel Scum

        *narrows gaze*

    • UnCivilServant

      Is that wheel in the back seat of that gray sedan?

      • Sean

        Yup.

        That’s not gonna buff out.

      • Not an Economist

        Okay it may need a little bodywork but the rest will buff out.

    • Mojeaux

      Ohhhhh. When you said some drunk driver ran into your reefer truck, I just thought it was a fender bender.

      • Sean

        Reefer truck (with the “alleged drunk”) hit our box truck and a bunch of other cars.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      were you in that? is everyone OK? some of the pictures are scary as fuck

      • Sean

        Two employees in our truck. None of them me.

        One woman (I assume from the Merc) went to the hospital to be checked out.

    • Old Man With Candy

      Red Asphalt?

      • DEG

        Yes. Typical in some parts of Pennsylvania where the soil is clay-like. I guess due to using local materials for the aggregate.

      • DEG

        Oh. Looking at the full resolution pictures, I think that’s transmission fluid on the asphalt, not the typical reddish asphalt in some parts of Pennsylvania.

      • Old Man With Candy

        That reference might be too old for you!

      • Bobarian LMD

        It was the scare film they made you watch as part of driver’s education.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Texas has it on I10

    • DEG

      Ouch.

  63. Mojeaux

    Of all my debt (which we are dealing with today, as a matter of fact), student loan is not one of them. I had a grand total of $5,500 in student loans for my last 2 semesters in college and even that made me grit my teeth. Tjat said, had I gone through with law school, I’d have needed student loans. Then my bestie at the time said, “Law school? You hate school!” Oh. Why haven’t I noticed this before? So I didn’t do that. Some days I wish I had…

    Mornin’, Glibbies! I am getting on with memento culling as per last night’s discussion. However, considering all that has happened in Clark County the last 2 days, I will be keeping all of the cards my husband has given me.

    Yusef, you are in my family’s prayers. Mr. Mojeaux sends his love also.

    • DEG

      Good collection.

    • Jarflax

      There’s a difference?

      • Raston Bot

        the two activities do blend seamlessly.

    • Raston Bot

      ^this is also a great soundtrack to jam just before that parent-teacher conference, job interview, sales pitch, blind date, i mean really it applies to every facet of life that may induce anxiety.

    • DEG

      Not bad.

  64. The Late P Brooks

    Social media use is addictive. Excessive use of mobile devices and social media platforms may lead to mental health disorders, reduced productivity, lack of sleep and social alienation.

    That’s an excellent idea. Look how effective the warnings on cigarette packs have been.

    • R C Dean

      I dunno. Putting a non-removable sticker on the screen of the cell phone, I’d say 2″ square, would probably help.

  65. The Late P Brooks

    Accident pics, as promised, from last night.

    WTF?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      You know, she could just say that targeting Chinese-Americans for exclusion is unwarranted and unnecessary, but she feels the need to utilize her grievance studies degree and go into a long history lesson about why white people suck.

      And of course, she is completely glossing over other cultures’ responses to the outbreak. I guarantee we’re not far from some Africans taking “steps” to protect themselves from Chinese.

  66. The Other Kevin

    I’m not sure where I read this, but supposedly most student loan debt is for post graduate degrees and high end schools. People aren’t racking up that kind of debt going to community college or their local branch of Purdue.

    So the tax money of people working for a living would go to pay for someone’s doctorate from Harvard.

    • Mojeaux

      someone’s doctorate from Harvard.

      In gender studies.

      • Jarflax

        I’ve seen Harvard women. I would prefer that you all pay for me to study gender at someplace in the SEC or Pac 12

      • Q Continuum

        “study gender at someplace in the SEC or Pac 12”

        Better study as many women as possible in as many different positions as possible to be sure.

    • Raston Bot

      People aren’t racking up that kind of debt going to community college

      yeah, you don’t go into 5-figure debt at $90/credit while living with your parents.

      • The Other Kevin

        I think this is just another example of the woke crowd trying to stick it to the deplorables.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I think its the over loaning for federal monies regardless of the school one applied to. Going to a community college? Here is 10k for the year!

    • hayeksplosives

      My bachelors degree was from a state university and was entirely scholarship funded (thank you, Oklahoma State Board of Regents) plus a little side job I did as a teaching assistant and private tutor.

      The only debt I incurred was when I went to Stockholm for my master’s degree. That added up to about $22k, mostly living expenses. I paid that bad boy off in one and a half years because I got a degree in a field that was in demand (GASP!!) so I could get a job.

      If I’d gotten a degree in Women’s Studies, I’d probably still be in debt to Oberlin or some such shit.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        If you had gone for a degree in women’s studies you would be in jail for murdering your classmates.

      • hayeksplosives

        This is likely true.

      • Lackadaisical

        Brings up the question of whether having gone for Women’s studies you would have been a bigger net benefit for society or not.

    • R C Dean

      Pater Dean made money on me as an undergrad. Took out a bunch of student loans, arbitraged them into higher rate CDs (it was a different time, interest-rate wise), and paid off the loans when I graduated.

      They were so pleased I didn’t have a criminal record after college they paid for law school. Which was a lot cheaper then, plus he had hooked up with some guys who always seemed to have suspiciously hot stock market tips, so they were good for money.

    • Akira

      People aren’t racking up that kind of debt going to community college or their local branch of Purdue.

      There was an article on The Other Site saying that most people can already attend community college at very low cost (sometimes for free) because of all the public and private scholarships and assistance programs that are out there.

  67. Raston Bot

    Bloomberg leads the latest poll out of Florida. the bernjahideen will lose their shit if he’s the nom. stay away from Milwaukee this July.

  68. Q Continuum

    “every married man in America should go to couples counseling”

    Puttin’ dat pussy on a pedestal!

  69. Q Continuum

    “Sandy Nurse doesn’t see why she needs to be $120,000 in debt “just for trying to improve my understanding of the world.””

    Wow, I can do that!

    I don’t see why I need to pay the car loan on my Ferrari for just trying to improve my morning commute.

    I don’t see why I need to pay my mortgage for just trying to improve my living conditions.

    I don’t see why I need to pay off my credit card debt for just trying to improve my material conditions.

    Gee whiz that’s easy!

    • hayeksplosives

      How do these people even know how to wipe their own arses?!

      • Gender Traitor

        “Arsewipe Studies” degrees.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Sandy should rant against the ADA for shitting down free lectures that universities wanted to put online…

    • Juvenile Bluster

      That’s a bingo.

      I bought a house I could afford in 2008. I bought this house despite being approved for a mortgage $250,000 more than what I borrowed. I really should’ve been more irresponsible.

      • Chipwooder

        Oh man, I remember that from when we bought our first house back before the ’08 crash – “You could get approved for a $350,000 mortgage, why are you aiming so low?” A few years later, when we were both out of work and didn’t have two nickels to rub together, I often remembered the mortgage people trying to talk us into borrowing significantly more than we should have just because they were willing to give it to us.

      • UnCivilServant

        I forget how much I could have borrowed. But I bought a cheap shoebox without a lawn.

        I’m only about three years from having it paid off (7-8 years from having bought it)

  70. Ownbestenemy

    My dad when he worked would purposefully seek out the kids who were roughing it through night school at a community college rather than some snotty punk who waltzs in with a big school degree.

    His results confirmed for me that its not the degree but the hard work one puts in that gets you places.

    • hayeksplosives

      Totally agree. My Hiring approach is to look first toward engineers who are military veterans. I’ve got two marines, 1 army, and one navy on my staff of a dozen.

      So much good experience that they got before going through college to get the engineering or physics degree!! Can’t put a price on it. They are terrific people and have been through enough harrowing shit that they know what matters and what is just ground clutter.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I’d also guess that they perhaps feel more of a connection to the work you’re doing and want something that works not just good enough to ship out the door.

    • Tundra

      My dad liked to hire people who grew up on farms. He always said you never had to worry about them staying busy.

      • RAHeinlein

        Yes, also most farm-raised understand doing your job is important – animals and crops die when untended.

    • Pope Jimbo

      When I used to do hiring my rule was “Never hire anyone with a CompSci degree to do development”.

      I got tired of devs missing deadlines because they were trying to write “elegant” code. Or worse, actually writing some bit of elegant code that you had to troubleshoot at 3am in the morning.

      I wanted devs who were willing to put out a lot of decent code in a short amount of time and CompSci majors never seemed to be able to do that.

  71. hayeksplosives

    I have temporarily changed my profile pic to a yellow rose (taken this morning on my front yard patio) in SP’s honor.

    Happy Friday, everyone!

    This too shall pass. That means the good and the bad are all transient. Revel in the good while it lasts!!

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Damn Skippy! Keep your loved ones close, and give em a kiss and a hug…

      • hayeksplosives

        Virtual hugs for Yusef!!

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        🙂 I’m going to go walk Bella, get out of my cave for a bit…..

      • Akira

        My mom’s twin brother passed away about 9 years ago. It’s VERY hard on someone to lose a twin; there are all kinds of support groups for it.

        Anyway, she cleared her head a lot by jogging. In fact, she ran a lot of 5Ks and came in first for her age-gender category.

        I guess what I’m getting at is that you can channel that grief into something positive and do great things.

        You’ll be in my thoughts, brah. You’re one of us.

  72. Lackadaisical

    We don’t celebrate “Hallmark Holidays” in our marriage. If your relationship is solid, you’re probably thinking of little (and big) things you can do to please your beloved all the time, year ’round. We always cook great meals, drink bubbly just because it’s Tuesday and we like it (and each other), and if I see something I know OMWC would enjoy, I pick it up whether a gift-giving occasion is nigh or not.

    I’ve had friends who think that if their significant other doesn’t go all out on gifts and hoopla, especially on Valentine’s Day, that it means they aren’t loved. Well, honey, if that’s how you measure it, maybe you’d be better off alone.

    When I was a small child, I hated the forced parties and obligatory all-classmate-card-giving that the school demanded. I’d often try to be “sick” that day just so I didn’t have to go through it. Sometimes my Dad was sympathetic and let me ditch.

    I’m lucky in that my wife feels about the same way I do (hallmark holidays suck, and are insincere). I get her flowers randomly when I feel like it, or if the she needs a little pick-me-up. I think that means a lot more than mandatory observance of love on 2/14.

    • The Other Kevin

      Yesterday was our anniversary. I took a day off and we spent it hanging out together. A movie, a nice dinner, shopping, etc. Today we just exchange cards. I really like how it works out.

    • Juvenile Bluster

      Looking at that picture, he lives in mom’s basement and plays games all day. He really could’ve fit two minutes hate into the schedule.

      Relevant Babylon Bee

      ATLANTA, GA—CNN has announced a new “Two Minutes Hate” segment airing every morning.

      The segments are mandatory viewing for anyone trapped in an airport or hotel lobby. Enraged hosts will drum up hate against whatever draws their ire that particular day, though usually it will be Trump and his supporters.

      Viewers will be worked up into a frenzy through subliminal messaging and the energy of the crowd. Hosts will use provocative imagery and mocking to get everyone really angry and make them hate their political opponents. Triggering images such as people in red baseball caps and politicians with orange skin will flash across the screen until the crowd’s rage is built up to a sufficient level.

      “Be angry! Be very upset! Be outraged! Everything is terrible!” Don Lemon cried at the crowds dutifully assembled around CNN telescreens across the nation. “Repeat after me: Trump voters are sheep!”

      “Trump voters are sheep,” viewers mumbled obediently.

      Fox News has condemned the Two Minutes Hate, accused CNN of copying their model during the Obama years.

      • Drake

        He looks like one of those artist renderings of Neanderthal man.

      • Plisade

        Nice!

    • Q Continuum

      Assaulting kids is what this country needs to heal.

    • Chipwooder

      One of these days, one of these assholes is going to assault the wrong person, get his head ventilated, and we’re going to have to endure endless media narratives of ORANGE MAN INSPIRES VIOLENCE!

      • Raston Bot

        this happened in Windham which is mostly rural. home of Windham Weaponry, formerly Bushmaster. it was on a gun-free zone school property so that probably saved his life.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        Windham is where Lewandowski lives. The average salary is well into 6 figures. A lot of people who commute to other towns to work at BAE, the university system, Dyn, etc..

    • R C Dean

      Confident prediction:

      The motive for the attack will remain a mystery.

  73. Tundra

    We just added this to our Prague itinerary. I like to be able to show my kids how the socialist story always ends.

    • Juvenile Bluster

      I went to Warsaw and Krakow, Poland as a teenager in 1994. Despite how cool I felt being a “millionaire” after trading in $50 (the exchange rate was 21,000 zloty to $1 at the time), seeing the area, which was still so … bad a few years after the Soviet Union fell, contributed a lot to my future political feelings.

      • Tundra

        Visiting Dachau back in the mid-90s was an amazing experience for me. I still get chills thinking about that place.

      • Chipwooder

        Was it foggy when you were there? Our school chorus did a Euro tour in 1990 when there was still an Eastern Bloc, and the day we went to Dachau was overcast, dark, and foggy. Spooky as hell.

      • Tundra

        Yes. It was in October, so it was overcast and gloomy. It really added to the creepiness of the place.

      • Juvenile Bluster

        We visited several of the camps during this trip (it was a Jewish youth trip called the March of the Living). You’re certainly right about the experience. Wish I still had my pictures.

      • Rhywun

        I had the pleasure of touring various areas of East Germany in the mid-80s. First time I ever encountered aluminum coinage.

      • Tundra

        Thanks. That looks cool.

      • Tundra

        Awesome. Thanks!

    • Shirley Knott

      This is a delightful album. Sorry I couldn’t find any of it on YouTube, but I didn’t search exhaustively.

  74. Rebel Scum

    Gun Control Lawmaker Who Survived Vegas Shooting Endorses Buttigieg

    A Nevada state lawmaker who survived the October 1, 2017, Las Vegas shooting and is a strong gun control proponent is endorsing former Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D) for president.

    The Associated Press reports that Assemblywoman Sandra Jauregui (D) announced her endorsement Thursday.

    Jauregui first endorsed Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA), who ran on an “assault weapons” ban, universal background checks, and using executive action to circumvent Congress in order to secure gun laws, in the event that Congress would not act.

    Harris dropped out of the race after failing to garner adequate public support.

    Jauregui is now endorsing Buttigieg, who supports an “assault weapons” ban, a “high capacity” magazine ban, and other gun controls.

    She looks like Burn Gorman in drag. And I don’t think Bootyjudge is as moderate as some are trying to make him out to be. That is to say, he is not moderate by any measure.

    • Chipwooder

      He’s a red diaper baby with a communist academic of a father.

      • R C Dean

        Yeah, I get a definite Obama vibe from him in some ways. Pretty much a blank slate, but gives off that “Ima gonna fundamentally transform your ass” vibe.

      • RAHeinlein

        Did you see SNL’s Dem Primary cold open last week? “White Obama”

      • Lackadaisical

        gives off that “Ima gonna fundamentally transform your ass” vibe

        I think that is just your gaydar going off.

      • Rhywun

        Interesting, I did not know that.

      • Chipwooder

        Yep.

        Buttigieg was a founding member and president of the International Gramsci Society, an organization that aims to “facilitate communication and the exchange of information among the very large number of individuals from all over the world who are interested in Antonio Gramsci’s life and work and in the presence of his thought in contemporary culture.”

        So, yeah, fuck that guy.

    • hayeksplosives

      Bootygig’s father was an outspoken Marxist and not shy about it.

      Apple didn’t fall far from the tree.

      I wish Tulsi were not such a socialist on medicine and a few other items. She got shushed by the mainstream media after dominating the early debates.

      She’d be the only Dem I’d even give a second glance.

      • Q Continuum

        “She’d be the only Dem I’d even give a second glance”

        Hence why she is being silenced.

      • Hyperion

        Yeah, she’s the moderate commie among them.

      • R C Dean

        She’s every bit as objectionable on most things as the rest of the field. Green New Deal? You bet. Welfare for illegals? Raised her hand. Gun control? All in.

        The notion that a principled leftist is better than an opportunistic one, I just can’t get behind. “Principled’ is how you get “the ends justify the means/by any means necessary”.

      • Rhywun

        Then there are these people:

        This is why watching the Democratic race unfold as a Never Trump conservative who is solely rooting for someone reasonable who can prevent President Trump from obtaining a second term is so incredibly frustrating.

        Dude. If you are rooting for any one of these Democrats, you are not a “conservative”.

      • Chipwooder

        Ah, John Ziegler, most notable for his insistence that Jerry Sandusky was framed. Charmer that one is.

        Leaving aside any evaluation of Trump as a president or even as a man, his presidency has been invaluable for exposing the grifters and frauds like Max Boot and Jennifer Rubin as what they really are. They’re already resigning themselves to writing “The Conservative Case for Bernie Sanders” type rubbish. The Bulwark published one just the other day.

      • Fatty Bolger

        I can sympathize with early Never Trumpers, but their fears have proven to be largely unfounded. If you’re still Never Trumping at this point, I have to wonder – why?

      • Heroic Mulatto

        If you are rooting for any one of these Democrats, you are not a “conservative”.

        I dunno. A lot of folks tell me they root for a national populist, but are still “libertarian”.

      • Mojeaux

        Alex P. Keaton was a fantasy.

    • Hyperion

      Public education has failed us. That is all.

      • Q Continuum

        Some would say it’s been wildly successful.

      • Hyperion

        Of course they would. Just NEEDZ MOAR FUNDING!

  75. We're not saying BEAM's an alien, but . . .

    In honour of VD (Valentine’s Day), my spousal unit just suggested we go to Costco and get hotdogs at the little food court.
    I love my spousal unit.  ;-)

    • Juvenile Bluster

      My wife just wants a card, one of those small cakes from Whole Foods and a sandwich from Chick-Fil-A for dinner. I got very lucky.

    • Cannoli

      Costco lunch is the best. My cousin wanted to have his birthday party at Costco one year.

    • hayeksplosives

      It’s the little things! I am planning to don my sturdy boots in a few minutes, harvest dozens of oranges from the property and put them all through the juicer. You can’t get better OJ anywhere.

      I think the spousal unit made reservations for dinner somewhere–can’t remember.

  76. Cannoli

    Botched this above

    Re Valentine’s: celebrations aren’t necessary, but can be fun. We just treat it like an oversized date night – we typically cook a nice dinner, dance, and watch a movie (all of which we do at other times, but we rarely have time to do all of them in one date), and we make a nice dessert (which we do not do often because of trying to low-carb). We seldom do presents, and only if it was something we were going to get anyway. Valentine’s doesn’t have to take away from don’t nice things for each other year round, any more than birthdays or Christmas do.

    • Tundra

      Cool!

    • UnCivilServant

      A protractor? Wouldn’t that just draw things out for too long?

      • Mojeaux

        I’m working every angle I can.

      • Jarflax

        So Mojeaux wants some French curves for Valentine’s? Are you going to share with the hubby?

      • Creosote Achilles

        I can cosine onto this idea.

      • Creosote Achilles

        Y’all think you’re acute, doncha?

      • Tundra

        Are you being deliberately obtuse?

      • UnCivilServant

        No, I know I’m Right.

      • Tres Cool

        DAMN YOU!

        That was going to be my line

      • Pope Jimbo

        You are free to go off on a tangent

      • Not Adahn

        No, he’s right.

      • Shirley Knott

        I see we’re already circling the drain.

      • Akira

        It’s gotten worse by a large degree.

    • Rhywun

      Neat. I remember having that design in plastic.

      • Mojeaux

        I have one. It is old. Had a helluva time finding out what it was called and where I could get a new one but they’re all “vintage,” i.e., from the 80s.

        I stumbled across this by accident.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Just like a gal. Always looking for an angle to protract a romantic holiday as long as she can.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Uffda. I got so excited with my cleverness, that I missed all the good ones you guys already added.

  77. Enough About Palin

    “When I was a small child, I hated the forced parties”

    For some reason I read that as forced panties.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Well it is SP writing that, so I think that might be a forgivable assumption.

  78. Enough About Palin

    “You knew this was coming.”

    The nephews of Replacements Drummer Chris Mars live across the street from me. They too are in a band that has played First Avenue’s main room. Have known them since the day they were born. Great kids. Shoveled my sidewalk all winter two years ago after I had knee replacement surgery.

    • Tundra

      Chris is a cool guy.

      Popular Creeps

      Gee, I wonder who he was writing about?

  79. Toxteth O’Grady

    Hayek: apologies, I missed your update yesterday. Never mind. /Emily Litella

    • hayeksplosives

      Err, uh…I confess I miss your reference.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        That you and the mister made up.

      • hayeksplosives

        Yeah, he has pretty much sworn off the sauce. We will see how that goes.

  80. Creosote Achilles

    Bob, I can’t fathom what you are going through. You have my deepest sympathies.

    • Chipwooder

      I don’t know what’s more cringey – the awful song or the ridiculous headwear of the two nitwits on the right.

      • Cacciatore

        The worst part is the lemmings standing up when that thing orders them to.

        Why is this allowed? Is the meeting completely unmoderated?

      • Plisade

        Haha, so where did the paper for the song sheet come from?!

  81. UnCivilServant

    DuckDuckGo, you have failed me again!

    How much weight does a brick lose between being molded and after it’s fired?

    • R C Dean

      Doesn’t matter. Its just water weight, so it will gain it right back.

    • Jarflax

      Stiff-Mud Process – In the stiff-mud or extrusion process (see Photo 3), water in the range of 10 to 15 percent is mixed into the clay to produce plasticity. After pugging, the tempered clay goes through a de-airing chamber that maintains a vacuum of 15 to 29 in. (375 to 725 mm) of mercury. De-airing removes air holes and bubbles, giving the clay increased workability and plasticity, resulting in greater strength.
      Next, the clay is extruded through a die to produce a column of clay. As the clay column leaves the die, textures or surface coatings may be applied (see PROPERTIES, Textures, Coatings and Glazes). An automatic cutter then slices through the clay column to create the individual brick. Cutter spacings and die sizes must be carefully calculated to compensate for normal shrinkage that occurs during drying and firing (see PROPERTIES, Size Variation). About 90 percent of brick in the United States are produced by the extrusion process.
      Soft-Mud Process -The soft-mud or molded process is particularly suitable for clays containing too much water to be extruded by the stiff-mud process. Clays are mixed to contain 20 to 30 percent water and then formed into brick in molds. To prevent clay from sticking, the molds are lubricated with either sand or water to produce “sand-struck” or “water-struck” brick. Brick may be produced in this manner by machine or by hand.
      Dry-Press Process -This process is particularly suited to clays of very low plasticity. Clay is mixed with a minimal amount of water (up to 10 percent), then pressed into steel molds under pressures from 500 to 1500 psi (3.4 to 10.3 MPa) by hydraulic or compressed air rams.

      Source

      • Jarflax

        I enjoy doing ‘research’* as long as it isn’t work. Tom Sawyer would have had a field day with me.

        *Ok, I like googling and then sifting results. Actual in depth research with citations and multiple sourcing for everything bores me.

    • CPRM

      That would depend on the brick type, I would assume.

      • UnCivilServant

        Some colonists digging in the mud, throwing it into molds and trying to make building materials. The clay is a ways away from the settlement, and I’m trying to figure out when in the process they ship the bricks back.

      • Jarflax

        Probably have to consider the siting of the charcoal burners as well :), and water access. You could transport the clay and then wet it at the kiln site for molding, if there was water access there.

      • UnCivilServant

        The settlement is on a river, the clay deposits are further down the coast, any work that requires fuel has to be done at the settlement, but I figure you might get to sun-dried brick forms before hauling the barge up the coast, then fire them in a kiln at the settlment. But if saltwater messes with the bricks… I donno.

      • Jarflax

        I suspect sun drying the bricks before moving them for firing isn’t workable. I am not sure where I heard it but my understanding is that that sort of interrupted firing process causes cracking and weakness in the brick.

      • CPRM

        It’s definitely going to ship after it’s fired. During firing there is a chance of spoilage as some of the bricks may explode or crack, and those can be broken back down and re-used I would think. Also you need a large area where you can dig an earthen kiln.

    • Not an Economist

      Really depends on the size of the brick and probably what it is made of.

  82. The Late P Brooks

    I’m a bad person. I have been deriving intense and utterly unwholesome amusement from looking out the window at my neighbor who has managed to bury his truck in a drift. He’s an annoying busybody douchebag.

    I should go to the box and feel shame. But I won’t/don’t.

    • Brett L

      Go out there, offer some commiserative advice, and then claim a meeting when he asks for/implies it would be nice if you helped.

      • ChipsnSalsa

        To quote my friends dad and uncles, “You’re doing it all wrong!”.

  83. The Late P Brooks

    Go out there, offer some commiserative advice, and then claim a meeting when he asks for/implies it would be nice if you helped.

    Are you nuts I’m not going out there in my flipflops and sweats. It’s cold out there.

  84. The Late P Brooks

    We’re talking snow (falling and blowing), 40+ mph winds and general ground blizzard conditions.
    Where do you think all those drifts came from?

    • R C Dean

      A pleasant, sunny day here. Highs in the upper sixties.

      • UnCivilServant

        15 degrees outside, 77 degrees in the office, and the damn sun is out, so it may hit the 80s in the office by the end of the workday.

      • R C Dean

        The office is in the low 70s and will stay that way.

        Oh, look! An early hummingbird outside the window.

      • Lackadaisical

        77 degrees in the office, and the damn sun is out, so it may hit the 80s in the office by the end of the workday.

        Sounds like hell.

      • UnCivilServant

        My personal preference for indoor temperature is in the 60s.

      • Jarflax

        Get your bragging in now. Come July you pay for it.

      • R C Dean

        Oh, I know. Still, summer in Tucson is a hell of a lot better than winter in the Upper Midwest. Stay out of the sun during the day and its pretty tolerable, better than relatively humid Texas. And the evenings are great after sunset.

    • Tundra
    • Fatty Bolger

      Damn. Don’t let the Tuunbaq get you.

  85. The Late P Brooks

    Oh, look! An early hummingbird outside the window.

    The bluebirds are liable to be quite disagreeably surprised when they get here in a couple of weeks.