We are now in the midst of a panic-demic. I’m still playing with the hyphen/not-hyphen, but I’ve settled on my new term. Whatever the actual loss of life from acute COVID-19 infection is, the increase in stress-related deaths, outright suicides, and damage to the economy will far outweigh it.
I’m gonna give my local school district credit for doing their best to help kids despite the moronic closing of schools.
And people here say the current crop of college students don’t have the right attitude.
I give the current Pope a lot of shit, but this is what a figurehead is supposed to do. Also, he probably enjoyed the walk, he probably doesn’t get to do that much.
I think this happened in the US a lot as we were developing modern sanitary practices. Eventually, they’ll evolve the local dog-catcher, too.
Mittens wants to send everyone in the US $1000, and an extra $500 per citizen (or taxpayer) kid. My counter-proposal is to suspend all of the tax-brackets below the 24% threshold ($168k for individuals, $326k for couples filing jointly) for 2020.
In lieu of music, I’ll submit this video of a good doge having fun while failing the agility course.
My counter-proposal is to suspend all of the tax-brackets below the 24% threshold ($168k for individuals, $326k for couples filing jointly) for 2020.
I’d go for that.
Pardon me, have to change my pants after reading that.
Nope – goodies are only for the “least among us”
Simple, effective, and persuasive.
My favorite economics professor would often say “It takes a plan to beat a plan”. I actually use it with my assistant managers and it’s quite effective when they come to me with problems.
He also had a say “HOT DOG!” that he would shout out when he was excited about a student’s response or such.
Relevant
I’d go for that.
I’d go for that too.
Unfortunately, Hall and Oates can’t go for that, no can do.
Yes please.
“Officers arrived on the scene to find “a very large crowd, blocking the street, congregating on rooftops, consuming alcohol, and creating a very large disturbance in the neighborhood,” MPD reported. As officers went door to door directing students to disperse, “suspects began throwing beer bottles, beer cans and other debris at the officers.””
That almost never works.
As I mentioned yesterday the only thing more contagious than the coronacooties is the stupid.
“Mittens wants to send everyone in the US $1000”
…oooooof course he does.
Well he can just get the money from Bloomberg, right?
Fucking Mittens. I want our second senate seat back.
I’d say the same here but it would be filled by another blue idiot.
Severely conservative…
He certainly seems to want to put us in chains.
It’s all pretend money anyway at this point so why not?
So, our plan for the current situation is to disrupt the supply chain as badly as possible and simultaneously pump massive ‘liquidity’ into the consumer markets? I’m not all that smart but that sounds like a recipe for disaster.
all money is pretend.
If I can bury my face in it and make motorboat sounds in it, its real.
Finally an economic analysis I understand.
Money for Nothing.
Top offering next to that link is Dire Straits playing it at Live Aid.
Everyone made such a big deal about U2 and Queen at Live Aid, but I remember being blown away by Dire Straits watching Live Aid on TV that day. “Money for Nothing” hadn’t really gotten out there yet, at best was still nowhere near the huge hit it became, so I think the average fan who only likes the songs they are already familiar with didn’t give their performance the recognition it deserved.
Dire Straits’ album Making Movies, still one of my favorite albums of all time, which came out just a few years before Live Aid, was super-popular among those who listened to those AOR FM radio stations who’d play lengthy album cuts, but there was really no “Top 40”-length song on that album, so no hits reached the average pop listener. (Maybe “Romeo and Juliet,” which did well on UK radio, but even that was too long for the US). Nowhere was this better exemplified than by Dick Clark doing the TV voice-over on the Live Aid broadcast that day. Despite several amazing albums over the years such as Making Movies and Communiqué (which spawned FM fave “Lady Writer on the TV”), Clark announced Dire Straits by saying “Here’s a band we really haven’t heard from since their hit “Sultans of Swing” in 1978.” No, Dick, we had heard from them, it’s just YOU and your American Bandstand mentality that hadn’t.
Maybe “Romeo and Juliet,” which did well on UK radio
“Skateaway” and “Solid Rock” were in the regular rotation around here on the “Classic Rock” stations back then. Of course we had some of the best Rock and Roll radio stations at the time coming out of Cleveland, the Rock and Roll capital of the world.
For my money, their best.
His own Money? I didn’t know he had that much. But hell, have at it. Oh he means he wants to give other people’s money away? I wish I could do that.
My response to pandemic isolation was to take the family to the beach today.
Miami Beach in Fort Lauderdale Beach or closed for the pandemic. So we went to one of my favorite out-of-the-way spot.
They’re easily 10 times as many Portuguese man-of-war as I’ve ever seen in my life. They were every 6 inch all the way down the beach.
Mother nature is angry with me for some reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A5XOIMs6D0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHF7EWCJqQI
I knew you guys would understand….
I picked up the paper this mornin’ and read all the daily blues The world is one big tragedy, I wonder what I can do? About all the pain and injustice, about all of the sorrow We’re living in a danger zone, the world could end tomorrow But I’m not gonna let it bother me tonight I’m not gonna let it bother me tonight Tomorrow I might go as far as suicide But I won’t let it bother me tonight
Save that paper in case you run out of regular bum-wipes.
Dempanic
+1
“Meet and Cheese sandwiches on Tuesdays and Thursday)”
Social non-distancing food?
CNN: how many cases of CV-19 you have WV?
WV: none of your damn business?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/03/health/us-coronavirus-cases-state-by-state/index.html
So… they’ve got an indexed list of personal information for these deaths?
Always a good response.
Bullshit. Every bit of it. As RC said in the last thread a lot of people probably have had it already and did not know it. They thought it was a cold.
I think the media and TDS people are deliberately trying to tank the economy.
I had two pretty wicked colds in December and January . . . I remember one of those feeling different than a normal cold or flu, looking back it makes me wonder if I had corona virus. Probably not, but it’s a distinct possibility.
What the hell? And you are here spreading it to all of us?
Goddammit
*blushes*
I’m just a nice guy like that.
Suthen, I really hope you are posting from the ER waiting room, or at least the urgent care.
Double vision cleared up this morning and the headache is subsiding. Vodka is being consumed.
The last time I saw a doctor it was my second visit to that office and it was several months since my first. I walked up to the desk and the girl looked up at me and said “Oh, Mr. Suthenboy. We were just talking about you. ”
“Oh? Why is that? I am surprised you would remember me.”
She said “You’re that guy that hates going to the doctor. We remember you.”
The worst part of the doctor is the “let’s wait and see” shit.
Me: I’m bleeding out my back end.
Doc: I don’t see anything, let’s wait a few weeks and see if it clears up on its own
Me: I’ve already waited a couple weeks, that’ why I’m here.
Doc: But we should just wait and see
Me: I’m not paying $150 fucking dollars for this visit for you to tell me to come back in two weeks and pay another $150. Do something!
Now we know the origin story of STEPHEN SMITH, MD
My personal, totally unsupported, theory is that a lot of people have had it and just think its a regular cold, and then promptly got better and nothing happened. While every death is tragic, etc, etc, the fatality numbers are so low the effects are imperceptible for any individual in the general population. Which is a common pattern in statistics. I can’t think of anyone I know who’s died of the flu, but many people do every year.
The average age of the people who have died here from this thing is like 80.
I believe that is true of many seasonal diseases like strep and the flu.
See, here’s the problem with that kind of thinking. You’re suggesting, if I’m understanding, that a few, some, a lot of those flu blamed deaths may actually have been “THE VIRUS”? Now that totally screws up the count, all this time we’ve been counting some CV deaths as flu deaths.
See where I’m going? This thing could be much worse than we thought. Those 18K flu deaths may have actually been CV deaths and we didn’t know it.
Now I’m really scared. PANDEMIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heads back to the local store to stare at the empty shelves, wondering why I’m always the last to get the word.
Same happened to me. A couple of weeks ago I got a bad sore throat for a day. No fever and just some mild sinus congestion. I still have a lingering cough though. If that’s all it does I’m touching my face again.
This is exactly what I have right now. I assume that its a cold.
My whole family had something in November or December. It was a lingering cough that lasted 4-6 weeks, much longer than a cold. We were told it was a virus and it would just go away in its own. I swear that was it but there’s no way of knowing is there?
Not yet. When/if there is a serology test available, there would be.
Yes, the Media/DNA/Top Men + TDS types absolutely are trying to tank the economy.
After my sojourn in the hospital a few weeks ago, I wonder about whether I had it too.
It’s tanked… fini… adios…
The best response.
So… thinking about the coming doom! How long before one of the ordered closings shuts down production on something that’s needed somewhere upstream in the “necessary” companies?
One day.
So who wants to start writing “I, Facemask”?
I, Facemask
That was short and easy. Who wants to go next?
After my regular biweekly chemotherapy infusion this morning, as I was walking out of the office a crabby old dude with a paper facemask on grumbled at the nurse “how come I’m the only one here wearing a facemask?”
I continued walking out, but I was so tempted to say “because you’re the only one here who thinks it will keep you from getting the virus!” It’s more important for someone who has the virus to wear a facemask to keep from spreading their oral and nasal fluids, not the otherwise healthy person who is thinking it will make them safe. The consensus now is that the virus spreads via droplets — so a bit from a cough gets on a countertop, where your hand brushes it right before you scratch your nose, to give one example of a transmission scenario. The mask wouldn’t have done a damn thing to help with that unless you only scratched your face through your mask. Only letting through a percentage of larger airborne molecules through your paper mask, which is all it’s actually doing for you on the receiving end, is not going to stop very many of these infections, sorry.
Ur is suspending travel at EU border. Does the UK still count? Maybe ill get some of my plane ticket money back from ryanair if they don’t go bankrupt.
I didn’t realize the Chaldees had a border with the EU.
Right?!
Where’s Abraham?
Darn your speedy typing!
“Ur is suspending travel at EU border.”
Is the Ziggurat a Europhobe?
What did Um have to say about this?
I got my first dose of the social stigma associated with not thinking this is the worst cataclysm in human history.
It’s the same exact elitist condescension that gets all huffy when discussing Orange Bad Man.
I made the mistake of saying “I don’t know what to believe, because I’m hearing all sorts of conflicting info” to which the panicked person responded “well, you should stop listening to fox news”. He and I hardly ever talk, he has no idea what my political leanings are, but not going full branch covidian means you’re an idiot right-wing yokel.
Very nice.
Missed that. Yes.
You’re a bitter clinger, Trashy.
That’s mean. Whack him with a Bible, Trashy!
You know how this ends, right?
Yes, with Janet Reno taking no responsibility.
With a bunch of NeoGlibs in the year 2038 watching thermal video of a bearcat knocking over what the government calls “a number of irresponsibly ignited bottles of alcohol-based hand sanitizer.”
SWAT teams shooting you and your girlfriend while you’re asleep?
Look, if we don’t raid the compound, how will all those innocent children burn to death?
I wonder what it’s like to have no conscience.
If you join a police force you can find out.
I watched a cop pull over someone yesterday morning. They were doing about 65 in a 55 on 465 in Indy. At 8 am, the road was virtually empty. I was doing about 70 coming up on them. I just wonder how someone can not feel like complete shit for ruining someone’s day for no reason.
Because that’s exactly why they got into that line of work?
Especially since the actual flow of traffic on 465 is at 65-70. I remember constantly being afraid of getting dinged for reckless driving for driving 70 on 465.
A little ashy?
In a blaze of glory?
Lest my shitlady status be forever forfeit, in the short term, i.e., right this very moment, I’m okay with that.
Chuck Norris has the Coronavirus
https://media.makeameme.org/created/chuck-norris-tested.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpIEyn9G6_8
He’s got a history
We’ll see which one kicks the other’s ass.
[golf clap]
NATION FINALLY CATCHES UP ON DIRTY DISHES
Oil City, PA – Amidst concerns about COVID-19, the nation as a whole finally caught up on all the dirty dishes that have been piling up in the sink. While managing new infection-prevention techniques such as social distancing and increased hand-washing, America has finally cleaned all dirty dishes in homes. “Ever since we were instructed to work from home, I’ve been really diligent about keeping up my efficiency” said local smut-peddler Q Continuum as he reached deep in the soapy water to pull out the last butter knife. “It’s really important that I don’t let this disrupt my normal routine.”
Stop spying on my house.
I like it.
“It’s really important that I don’t let this disrupt my normal routine.”
I did say that.
You misspelled ‘laundry’.
“Trump tells America lock down now with ’15 days to stop the spread,’ saying old must stay home, gatherings over 10 people end and schools, offices, bars and restaurants should close but Tony Fauci has to correct that it is NOT till August”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8118415/Donald-Trump-tells-America-lockdown-15-days-stop-coronavirus.html
gatherings over 10 people
It only takes 4 to riot.
The math checks out.
Fuck Fauci.
Why is Trump trying to fear-monger the economy into ruins to hurt Trump?
Probably because he’s been attacked endlessly the last few weeks for not fear-mongering the economy into ruins.
Yeah, I forgot Trump’s well known for letting The Media™ browbeat him into changing his tune.
Trump is incredibly thin skinned and hyper attentive to what’s being said about him. His strategy has shifted to playing presidential which is about all he can do at this stage. Urging no panic obviously didn’t work.
Sometimes you gotta ride the wave, or drown in it
“saying old must stay home”
Why is it always me? I should be the one out and about since I don’t have much left to lose.
“Freedom just another word”….
We are now in the midst of a panic-demic.
More like a panic-DEMic, amirite?
“BREAKING: Idris Elba urges fans not to ‘freak out’ as he confirms he has tested positive for coronavirus COVID-19… but is yet to discover if wife Sabrina has also contracted the virus”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8118243/Idris-Elba-confirmed-tested-positive-coronavirus-says-feels-ok.html
What percentage are celebrities?
I’m also worried that he tested positive with no symptoms.
He’s just stringing us along.
oof
At least if he dies people can finally shut up about making him James Bond.
*snort*
He’s 47? I would have guessed a decade higher.
Putting on my tinfoil hat for a second, maybe the celebrities are announcing that they have the virus because they’ve been tasked to play a part, not because they actually have the virus.
Are you suggesting anyone would be capable of remaining in character through the end of the world? While their children gurgle their last breath in their arms amidst the smoke and ruin that we once called home. You sir, are beyond ….what The Academy isn’t making nominations right now, fuck it, nevermind.
I’m on my way to the gym one last time until Governor Murphy decides to grant me freedom-to-associate again.
You’re just adorable.
Sore throat, tired, dry mouth…. Probably a regular cold, but great timing.
It’s pollen down my way.
“I’m not dead, yet!”
Small observation: People who work in computer security, who have a lot of experience with 1) crisis management, 2) geometric-growth infections and 3) the ability to work from home are A) the least panicked and B) the most likely to make the more extreme self-quarantining changes this week.
“I’m not panicking, I’m just not leaving the house” was heard today.
Today?
Isn’t that every day?
No. Computer security people will sometimes lose their (ok, our) shit over stuff normies never know about or see come to pass. For example, the almost-adoption of SIMON and SPECK, and the magic number for Dual_EC_DRBG were huge, existential crisis moments in the crypto world. And noone knows or should care about it. But I know people were where ready to burn all their electronics and move into a primative shed in the pacific northwest.
Well, I kinda meant… IT people don’t want to go outside or interact with others on any day.
I’m working on getting outside more. EOM
Sounds about right
The exception that proves the rule or something . . . I don’t know anything about computer security and I’m the least panicked person I know. Then again, I’m also just a contrarian. I’m tempted to stop washing my hand after shitting, just to prove a point.
We already have one of your kind around here. There’s no room for a second.
Sounds good. Let’s shake on it.
Hah! I’m not in security.
Shit. I know shit’s bad right now, with all that no TP bullshit, and the Kung Flu, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.
Invite STEVE SMITH over?
I’m Not Sure…
Wait, I thought it was NOT SURE…..
Koolaid?
Vaseline?
“Mittens wants to send everyone in the US $1000”
Yeah, fuck Mittens. I’ll take the tax break instead.
He can cut me a check if he’d like. I ain’t turning down a grand if he really wants to send it to me.
He was referring to his own money, wasn’t he?
Of course he was. He’d never offer people your money.
That was my thought
“Go right ahead, Mitt. I had no idea your vulture capital days paid that well, but good on ya.”
Somebody should ask him if he thinks illegals should also get a welfare check.
He hasn’t told you what you need to do for it first.
Hmm . . .I seem to be struggling with how to not come across as an ass when talking about the pandemic. Apparently, from multiple sources, I’m unsympathetic and not taking it serious enough. After I realized that people were actually freaked out, I tried to tone down my responses and sound like I was empathic to their concerns, but I think I’ve failed.
Nope, I’m more concerned about the population panicking then catching this.
I’m 1% concerned about the virus, and 99% concerned about the panic over the virus at this point.
Absolutely.
If they had done an economic calculation, they would have not taken this route.
The logic behind this response is the logic of banning cars to save 37,000 lives. We don’t do that. Because it costs too much. So people are OK with 37,000 deaths to save time and money.
We were OK with 20k deaths from this flu season so far…. and with 80k deaths in 2016-17 from flu.
But this virus? Nope. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead with blocking all economic activity!
Ban Chicago!
You’re not accounting for old people. The vast majority of our decision making, law implementing, asshats are old people. They’d rather destroy our economy than play Russian roulette with a long death.
Yeah, that’s the conversation that cannot be had. Since most of the deaths are in the elderly, what is the man-years lost to society? If you are 83 and had a 10% chance of not making it to 83, what does it mean that COVID got you? 16% chance of death at 83 from covid, but 10% chance anyway… so how many excess deaths are we talking about?
And worse, at what real cost? That’s a cost benefit analysis that nobody wants to do.
Yeah, but people don’t like when I say “your concerns are not valid. you sound like an imbecile. Here’s facts and logic. Why can’t you stop emoting and think for five seconds. No, I will not respect your opinion, because its is emotional and ignorant”
I may not say it exactly like that, but I’m pretty sure that comes across in my response, because that’s how I usually think.
Ah yes, the old “I’m factually correct and a dick bag, why don’t people respond well to that?” question that is at the heart of the libertarian movement.
That’s a thinker.
we get it, we get it….
:Under his breath to the other glibs:
why does He have to be such a know it all asshole.
So you’re saying we can figure out a solution to this problem if we think through it logically, right?
Yes, and then communicate it in the form of an 84 page monologue!
Look, I can’t help it that I’m always right.
Is that it in this situation though? I wouldn’t consider myself a “dick bag” because I don’t sympathize with my dog when he loses his shit at seeing another dog across the street. Something or someone acting like an frothing at the mouth, panicky animal should be treated like a frothing at the mouth, panicky animal.
That’s certainly an option, but you shouldn’t sit in wonder when the other person doesn’t thank you for treating them like an animal instead of a human. I think that holding it against people for being emotional in unfamiliar and potentially-dangerous circumstances is a really high bar, and you’ are just going to go around being disappointing in everyone and generally a pretty miserable person. And if you respond to that disappointment with “Why can’t you stop emoting and think for five seconds.” you are a dickbag in need of empathy supplementation.
Forgiving people for their human weaknesses, without accepting their advice or agreeing with them, is likely a better way to go. Love the sinner, hate the sin, and all that.
Since I brought it up, I can say I agree with Leap here. Once I realized how freaked out the people I was referring to were, I apologized and toned down my rhetoric. I didn’t change my opinions, but I tried to present them more softfully and and be respectful of their concerns.
Unfortunately, these people know me, and could see through that. I’ve apologized that I offended them and have kept my mouth shut since.
Forgiveness doesn’t require ignoring the weakness or not attempting to correct the errors. People panicking is natural, it is also very dangerous and destructive.
That’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is that if someone’s irrational behavior is putting me in danger, I’m not going to stop and place myself in their shoes first.
You don’t persuade people by telling them (by word, deed, or body language) they’re frothing at the mouth panicky animals.
They are not persuadable in any event. Someone panicking is, by definition, irrational. While you can’t make it better by scoffing at their panic, you can make it worse by facilitating their panic.
I agree with Dean. I remember when my kid was young and in the temper tantrum stage (which thankfully was pretty short compared to some). There are times when you can kneel down, look them in the eye and persuade them, and there are times when you just have to pick them up, kicking and screaming, and plop them in the playpen.
Listening and saying factual things in a calm, soothing manner is neither scoffing nor facilitating.
It is POSSIBLE you could persuade someone to calm down and think about it.
That is my point.
My son is not amenable to persuasion since he believes he is always right, so I just start off with plopping him in the metaphorical playpen, and trust me, lately, I have said some pretty mean things.
However, equating panicking people with children and animals comes through in tone and body language, which is not helpful to you, to them, to society, or the situation at large.
It’s not like it would kill someone to show a little kindness.
No one disagrees that kindness should be shown. However, the other person has moral agency; giving in to panic is a choice. I don’t know why the burden should be completely on the rational person to tolerate the other person’s lack of self-restraint. If that person has the right to experience panic at the unknown, then I have an equal right to experience irritation at the other person’s behavior. Particularly, when that person could endanger me.
It’s not like it would kill someone to show a little kindness.
If you can do so without validating and facilitating their panic, I would agree.
I wouldn’t consider myself a “dick bag” because I don’t sympathize with my dog when he loses his shit at seeing another dog across the street.
Not at all, but how do you think your dog sees it?
Like an asshole. Because my dog is a raging asshole.
Hmm, “an frothing”, must be one of those linguist things.
Don’t tell me you’re not drinking?
I work Rufus
Me too, but there are no laws when you’re drinking White Claws* while working from home!
*I’m actually drinking a red wine while grading term papers. Still counts.
And I’m sure he appreciates it.
I’m actually drinking a red wine while grading term papers.
I’m guessing the students that get graded later in the night tend to have more extreme grades.
“This paper sucks, F”
and
“This paper fucking rocks A”
But not a lot of C’s.
I’m actually more of a sleepy drunk. So I would guess the papers towards the end get a “Yeah, ok. Words.”
Why are you concerned about what people think. Hint: They think it anyway regardless of what you do.
I come across as insensitive. I dont care. They are mostly imbeciles.
Because one person is my mother and I love her and the other person I’m trying to sleep with tonight.
But you don’t love the other person.
Pimp as hell.
You give your wife a voice in whether she fulfills her wifely duties or not? What kind of shitlord are you?
Not my wife . . . not even my girlfriend.
Sister?
Ah.
Yesterday my mother was on the phone with me panicking and frothing at the mouth. I said “Mother. You raised me on a farm. I know what it looks like when people are shoveling horseshit. Everything The WHO says should preluded with “This is complete horseshit”.
After a few minutes she did calm down some.
I’ve never gotten in trouble for keeping my mouth shut.
I’ve never gotten in trouble for keeping my mouth shut.
Well, that makes one of us.
You’ll have to forgive her. She’s not married to a woman. She doesn’t have to take the Kobyashi-Maru on a daily basis.
Shall We Play A Game?
Global Thermonuclear War?
The only winning move is not to play.
It’ll happen one day. *ducks*
My wife was really upset because her dad talked her ear off about how bad this was going to be and kinda put her in a foul mood, so while i could be more empathetic on the flip side the “Panic!!!” people can stand be a little more rational.
We need to get one of those CDC folks to explain that giving your husband a hummer prevents Covid-19.
But you gotta do it once a day….
At LEAST, once a day…at LEAST…
I laughed when I heard it called the “Boomer Remover”.
I’m in the camp that hopes they get the disease so I get a vacation.
*virus. But a disease of some kind would do, as well.
well right now it seems like most states are exercising a “lets see if we can do a two week unpaid vacation for everyone” plan. The Economy already handles this once a year around Christmas, so we’ll see.
I was about to say that this comes on the heals of three weeks of increased consumption, but having been to the hardware store and the grocery store over the weekend, seems like a lot of people were trying to get that done in 2 days.
Apparently, from multiple sources, I’m unsympathetic and not taking it serious enough.
Let’s just say, this isn’t the first time I’ve heard that said about me.
Nice
Well, we could same the same sort of bullshit when you’re dying from Ebola, but not only would it be wrong, it wouldn’t be a very nice thing to say.
‘Say the same thing’
Geez, my typing is bad today.
Ugh. In 2016 someone asked me “Oh my god, if we elect Trump what will the rest of the world think of us?”
I bet y’all can guess my response. That really pissed me off. What that fuckknuckle said is a very common sentiment around the world. They hate our guts. Fuck them.
It’s just a prime example of why their country is a shithole and why it’s going to stay that way.
Zimbi is an authoritarian shithole. Was there a couple years ago and saw amazing kind and friendly people….living on less than a dollar a day. People begging to be paid in USD’s (one of their official currencies, BTW) so they can send the money under threat of violence every evening to the government to pay off their international debt. ATM’s that can accept but not dispense money, LOL. They got this ‘gift’ by tanking one of the best agricultural economies in Africa by appropriating land and businesses of ‘white oppressors ” and sending all lenders running. I feel for the people, but fuck their leaders for lying to them. You want to see what socialism does….there is another case study.
What’s happening: On Monday, Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) joined a growing chorus of liberal and conservative economists are lining up behind a proposal published in the Wall Street Journal by Harvard professor Jason Furman, who chaired the Council of Economic Advisers (CEA) under President Obama, that calls for direct government payments of $1,000 to every American adult.
Fuck you. In addition to Brett’s suggestion, cut spending too.
i think Mittens needs to realize that the country doesn’t want him anymore. We’ve moved on to gloves. They’re better for 95% of circumstances.
I heard someone say today that this idea – and cutting taxes right now – is not the best solution. You want people staying home, not running around spending money. While that excludes online purchases, I thought the general idea was good. Oh, and this was someone who said, in general, temporary tax cuts are good but permanent tax cuts are better.
Mittens wants to send everyone in the US $1000 https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-recession-direct-payments-americans-ubi-c3393d14-33ad-47c2-a739-f2fec150b212.html, and an extra $500 per citizen (or taxpayer) kid. My counter-proposal is to suspend all of the tax-brackets below the 24% threshold ($168k for individuals, $326k for couples filing jointly) for 2020.
counter-counter-proposal is to suspend all of the tax-brackets
Now you’re just talking fantasy land.
On a website with a target audience of US citizens (“target audience” does NOT mean everyone who is in actuality on the site) who reject being a part of the cultural/political/whatever tribes of Democrat, Green, Libertarian, Reform, and Republican Parties.
Odds of getting some sort of Conscience of a Conservative government in the US?
Odds of Trump’s successor at least making a good faith effort to adhere to the “law of the land” founding document?
Seems like this is an appropriate cyber-place to be “talking fantasy land”.
Chill buddy. It was a joke, because things like UBI are being seriously considered, but when you propose just letting people keep their money, people laugh and say its fantastical.
Did not mean to imply being upset. We’re cool.
If you like your NASA, you can keep your NASA as long as you can get people to voluntarily pay for it.
If you want your EPA, TSA, and so on, get people to choose whether or not they want to be certified as compliant. How about a choice between booking your flight with airline A which has TSA being TSA and airline B that is TSA-free?
Mammary Monday will ease the recession with these moneymakers.
http://archive.is/Nw0PW
I don’t like #6’s bikini bottoms but she is otherwise lovely.
#21 has big traps.
#30 is alluring.
24 looks disturbingly like my ex.
Fuck
Gov. Chris Sununu ordered gatherings in New Hampshire to be capped at 50 people and joined other states in limiting bars and restaurants to take-out and offsite eating, effective at the close of business Monday night.
Three week closure because of St. Patrick’s Day?
A spokesman for the governor said there was growing concern that St. Patrick’s Day revelers who couldn’t go out in Massachusetts would head north to New Hampshire, potentially hastening the spread of the coronavirus in the Granite State.
Sununu: Making the most progress against Masshole migration since 1638.
Remember the H1N1 Pandemic? I Don’t Either
America is in the grips of a panic the likes of which we haven’t seen before. What exactly is a pandemic, other than a scary sounding word from science fiction movies? According to WHO, “Pandemic refers to an epidemic that has spread over several countries or continents, usually affecting a large number of people.”
Per the Johns Hopkins dashboard, at the time of this writing, there are 147,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus spanning the globe, with 5500 deaths and 72.000 recoveries. Cases in China have leveled off over the past several weeks, suggesting that we in the U.S. may see the same over the upcoming weeks to months.
Wuhan virus is not the first viral pandemic America has had to contend with. The last one was the H1N1 virus from 2009. How did America react to that last pandemic 10 years ago? Does anyone have more than a vague recollection of H1N1, also known as swine flu? No one will forget this current panic, but most have forgotten H1N1.
That having been said, perhaps we should take influenza more seriously.
You’d think a physician would know better than to overdose on red pills.
Shut the fuck up libtard. ///didIdothatright?
Yes, my son. You have begun your journey to enlightmentardness.
Well akshully, there should be a comma between up and libtard.
You’ll never get you’re own Padwon if you are going to always be so critical.
Padawon.
:claps:
72 point zero zero zero recoveries.
Whew. I’m assuming any fractions would be zombies, right?
I’m 1% concerned about the virus, and 99% concerned about the panic over the virus at this point.
#METOO
Yeah, I’m feeling exactly the same. The other thing we have to be very concerned about is the ‘never let a good crisis go to waste’ politicians seizing the moment to push all sorts of totalitarian bullshit.
That is my concern. The panic is overblown but the disease isn’t something to just dismiss. The real damage is going to be to the economy and it. is definitely being used as an excuse to take shots at Trump. I also think it is being used to deliberately damage the economy to that same end.
Still…the flu of various strains are something to take seriously.
Adding in panic and emotion never makes a bad situation better.
To sum up the corona panic succinctly, we’ve become a nation of pussies. *glares at people telling Suthen to go to the hospital because of a little brain bleeding*
“Rub some dirt on it!”
Is that how you ended up with such a dirty mind?
Hey, hospitals gotta eat, too.
Question for the investor class of Glibs. I may be coming into an extra grand soon and with the market tanking it seems like a good time to jump in since it’s bound to recover, so what should I buy/invest in? I don’t know much about high end financin’ can I buy $1,000 of “the stock market”?
LEON LTD.
Index funds exist. Basically a share of the ‘market’
But don’t go “fund” because you can’t get out quickly in this scenario (trust me, I know)
Go with exchange traded funds…. https://www.investopedia.com/etfs/etfs-track-dow/
In a volatile market, having 1 chance per day to sell, and having to make that choice by 2pm…. yeah, no.
too late for me. I didn’t hit “sell” when I had it loaded up 3 days before the crap hit the fan. Because the tax bill would have been a year’s pay. So I chickened out, even though I knew it was the right thing to do. Dumbass.
The Human Fund
Money for people.
Yes, you can just buy an S&P 500 index fund.
Yes, in the form of an Index fund.
What is your return horizon? If over 20 years, your investment heuristics should not include the current market state as an input.
Cash? Silver?
Low cost ETFs.
My investment record is not great at the moment so don’t take my advice. I am waiting for things to calm down, try to identify what I think the bottom will be, then buy index fund. Maybe overweight in the oil sector because I think that will rebound. Dont take my advice Im bad at this
“My investment track record is not great….try to identify what I think the bottom will be…”
I see the problem. Don’t try to time the market. /economist mode off
I know how to invest. You buy high and sell low!
I’m still kicking myself for not buying more BP stock during the oil spill. I had extra money at the time too . . .doh!
Now that you mention it….I would direct you to my son. He is something of a financial genius. I am gonna ask him and I will relay what he says.
Two Girls At The Same Time Inc.
They used to just call it the Bunny Ranch, but that might cost more than a $1000
Look, I’m not gonna lie. For $1K, you will probably have to make concessions in quality to get the quantity you are looking for. But remember, “Quantity has its own quality” as some great general once said.
For $1k you could make a few good runs at it at the club. You might get lucky….
Buy 80% lowers.
I’m buying oil and gas due to the double whammy that sector has seen. I’m partial to Valero VLO. Another stock I like that has done a fantastic job of streamlining management during carmaggeddon is Cliff’s Natural Resources CLF. CLF could turn disastrous if this gets real though. I think Valero will be fine regardless and good for probably a 2 to 3 bagger in the next 18 mos, with good dividends while you wait.
I saw a pair of headlines earlier. One was from CNN, saying something about how that bungler Trump isn’t taking the plague seriously enough. The other was from FOX, saying Trump is attempting to calm people down and tone down the rhetoric about it.
Whom should I believe?
CNN’s current headline is “stocks crash as Trump says new normal could last months.”
Sounds about right.
I don’t watch either, but the “conventional wisdom” that i heard is that FOX is totally working on downplaying this to a dangerous level, saying it is all fake news.
So you can take that for what it is worth.
NEWSMAX! DID YOU KNOW THAT DESPITE MAKING UP ONLY 13% OF THE VIRUS POPULATION, CORONAVIRUSES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 52% OF VIRAL INFECTIONS? #QANUS #WWF1WWE #LIGMA
I’m not virophobic, I’m just giving you the stats.
Good to see you’re fighting against the Cultural Hippocratic “medical correctness”.
Some of my good friends have the coronavirus.
I think you mean Black James Bond disease.
It’s STD, you little *bitch*.
IT’S CALLED WUHAN FLU, LIBTARD!!!
I thought it was the Tom Hanks Flu?
MAO’S REVENGE DAMNIT!
“Mao’s Revenge.”
I like the way it rolls around on my tongue.
We don’t want to be racist, so we call it the Kung Flu.
That is going to pop out of my mouth at a meeting, I just know it. Then we’ll find out if my file folder o’ dirt works as intended.
Why are all of you trying to hide that this disease came from Hollywood?
You misspelled CIA.
Jimbo coined ‘Slant Sicks’.
Still my favorite.
Why halfway racist?
Also fun would be the reaction of the press trying to cover the story. Trying to explain why everyone needs to be outraged without being able to use the phrase. And because my genius hasn’t had time to become commonplace they couldn’t say “the double S word”.
Tom Hanks Disease.
So you’re saying…
Tom Hanks… and Sophie Trudeau… are the same person?
The math checks out.
It’s difficult to believe how so much is different since last Monday.
Just wait until next Monday…
Question for the investor class of Glibs. I may be coming into an extra grand soon and with the market tanking it seems like a good time to jump in since it’s bound to recover, so what should I buy/invest in?
Carnival Cruise Lines is a smoking buy.
I see what you did there.
Oh, you weren’t talking about the government.
“The time has come for extraordinary measures to combat the Chinese coronavirus. What seems extreme today will seem obvious tomorrow,” Cotton, an outspoken skeptic of the House’s relief package, said on Monday. …
“Call it what you want—a shutdown, quarantine, curfew, whatever. But only absolutely essential work should continue: groceries, pharmacies, supply transport, health care, electricity, water, sanitation, etc. Everyone else should stay home,” Cotton contends.
“Shut down all but essential government agencies & services. At federal, state, and local levels, officials working to arrest the virus’s spread and mitigate its economic harm (and other essential services like food aid and VA care) must continue working,” he continues. “No one else should.”
Close it up. Lights out.
Retail workers are officially more essential than the vast array of government employees.
Shut down all but essential government agencies & services.
Interesting that you hear lots of enthusiasm for shutting down the private sector, but very little about shutting down the public sector. Weird, huh?
A lot of the public sector here has already gone home for the duration.
I’m reporting this from the dead-thread – I didn’t see the new one was up. Given that many people here are considering whether they’ve already had it, I wonder if all of the pant-shitting might not work in Liberty’s favor?
The narrative afterwards is what will matter.
I don’t think so . . . if it doesn’t get that bad, people will say things like “the social distancing and quarantining worked!” If it gets bad people will think we didn’t go far enough , , , but I love the optimism!
Nope. The restaurants and bars are closing, the number of unemployment applications (referenced below) jumped up by huge numbers here in Ohio. Businesses are going to wind up closed because of this.
Look at some point the money is going to have to come from somewhere, and who better than those greedy capitalists?
No matter which way this goes except in the case of total disaster, it will be spun six ways from Sunday, all confirming our own biases.
That’s just what the Chinese would have you believe.
Good thing we’re all gonna die.
Reposting, not reporting (close enough, nowadays, I guess)
The other thing we have to be very concerned about is the ‘never let a good crisis go to waste’ politicians seizing the moment to push all sorts of totalitarian bullshit.
No kidding. There was a thing in the Guardian from some global warning nitwit whining about how the coronaplague has pushed his/her favorite hobbyhorse out of the headlines. We just need to direct all the stimulus toward “green power” and the world will be saved.
One thing that AOC has going for her is that she is Always. On. Message. She doesn’t care what the panic is, she can and will use it to justify her pet plans.
Which of course should tell you how seriously the politicians actually think this is.
So who could have foreseen that enacting a sweeping change of employment laws late on a Sunday night with no prep work would lead to a busy Monday?
Inconceivable!
Next up:
“Application denied. Terminations due to force majeure are not covered.”
https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/1239361361043427328
Period.
But what if she’s postmenopausal?
Then she don’t swell, won’t tell and will be grateful as hell.
And she can fuck us without getting preggers.
Russell Drew
@RussOnPolitics
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It’s not enough for Joe Biden to just pick any woman for his vice president. It must be an African-American woman.
Black women have come to Democrats’ rescue again and again over the past few decades.
They have earned this prize and more.
#DemDebate
(Followed by a gif of Kamala Harris).
I think i hate this person the most right now.
“Prize”.
Yes, being the hired help of the nation is a “prize”.
Shut up peasant.
Thanks, Brett.
I needed that doggy video today.
Didn’t he come out the end of the tunnel he went in? That’s impressive for such a large dog.
Geez, Tulip.
You want to serve one up like that for this group?
“been trying to get back in ever since I was born!”
My mistake. Oh well.
I was just impressed that he seems to have turned around in the tunnel at one point.
https://twitter.com/WuTangClan/status/1239308716555542535
You got to diversify your bonds, nigga.
So… martial law?
https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/in-defining-moment-san-francisco-to-order-residents-to-stay-home-over-coronavirus/
Well, except the homeless, of course.
something something meek inheriting the earth something
Bless them.
Osterholm is on the radio again scaring the shit out of everyone.
Is this fucking virus transmittable through the air, or not?!?
Yes, it is, but there is a difference between “droplet” and “airborne” transmission. In both cases the bug travels through the air to your tender, throbbing membranes.
We are on droplet precaution protocols.
Osterholm keeps talking about how all one needs to do is breathe the same air as the infected person. What the fuck.
Sure, within a very short time frame and within a pretty short distance.
That is true of nearly everything. Essentially, airborne has a longer range and timeframe than droplet.
Osterholm has been beating the pandemic drum for a long time. I swear I first heard him going on and on about this twenty years ago when he was saying the Y2K could cause things to go pear shaped and make us ripe for a pandemic.
He must be torn between going on more shows to crow about pandemics or to just sit in his office beating off at the idea of lots of deaths.
If this thing doesn’t pan out, he’s going to be soooooo disappointed.
I sent this to my team today. It’s apparently now being forwarded around.
My “FEAR” vs “CAUTION” columns lost formatting.
anyway, you get the idea.
Yeah . . . you’re one of those people freaking out and panicking.
Two thumbs up.
I want to say something humorous about the lack of pantshitting, but I can’t.
Instead, I’ll just say that’s good advice.
This is very good. Nicely said! Permission to share off this site? Preferred attribution if ‘yes’ and you would rather something other than ‘a friend’. 😉
Thx!
“Bragging about not social distancing”
https://mashable.com/article/people-bars-coronavirus-social-distancing/
Social distancing = skipping the high five with your buddy while you’re double-teaming that girl from the bar.
Known as the “Eiffel Tower”.
So now, DeWine is closing gyms, movie theatres, bowling alleys, etc.
We should all just go hang out in his yard and drink beer.
https://www.nbc4i.com/community/health/coronavirus/dewine-orders-movie-theaters-gyms-other-businesses-closed-to-fight-spread-of-coronavirus/
NJ did the same. Are they still required to pay their loans, taxes, utilities? Or just go out of business?
Of course they are. One of the local restaurant associations sent an e-mail with a list of members who were staying open for delivery and take out orders.
Yes.
Fuck DeWine. I’m just hoping the state mailed me my rebate check before call the panicking.
I got mine. Better cash it soon.
“We should all just go hang out in his yard and drink beer.”
Now there’s an idea to get behind.
I would drive over there just for that.
Shelter in place
I think I’ll go to town for a beer. I consider it my duty as an American.
People asking my gym owner if he’s freezing accounts or refunding members while shut down by the goverment. His honest answer: “If I do, there won’t be a gym here when this is over.”
Question for HM.
What’s the most likely thing to happen when you own a lib so hard that she:
A) Spontaneously orgasms
B) Has a stroke
C) Develops incurable fecal incontinence
You’re talking about how Ruth Bader Ginsburg is going to die, right?
I think she already has C.
Now that’s when the Dems will panic.
It’s going to be quite a list.
I wasn’t ready for that HM, that will be my biggest laugh this week I’m sure.
What the fuck day is this? There had better be some beer left in the stores.
Will no one think of the poor IT wretches who have to telecommute? Everyone else gets to sit at home drinking and playing video games*, while we still have to work. It isn’t fair. Where is our bailout?
*complete and total euphemism for masturbating to pr0n.
It’s hard to masturbate to porn when your entire family is in the house.
Hard… But not impossible.
Any teenaged male has learned the art.
The advantage of being a teenaged male is that in general, the rest of the family doesn’t want to know where you are or what you’re doing.
Any teenaged male has learned the art.
Well, its pretty easy when it only takes a few seconds.
It’s hard to masturbate to porn when your entire family is in the house.
And you call yourself a Glibertarian. You disgust me with your personal hangups!
You know how every business has decided they should send you an email telling you about their COVID-19 plans?
Today I received one from Swagelok.
I guess they wanted to reassure me that they weren’t licking the stainless before they turned it into fittings or something.
Swagelok is my jam!
My battery order showed up. Based on cheap digital thermometer, no fever. So, assuming the same by next week, I’ve either already had it, wasn’t exposed (unlikely), or was exposed and didn’t get it.
Well, the house I really wanted (from Friday) apparently went on contract yesterday. Looked at a few more good ones today and I think I’m ready to bite the bullet tomorrow. (sleep on it). Not perfect by *my* [weird layout, space, etc] standards, but excellent on the whole.
Stopped by my buddy’s restaurant a couple times for lunch and then take-out en route both ways. He’s already hurting in terms of business – more concerned about employees hours, etc. Hoping he can get his landlord to let him slide on the rent for a month or so – since it sure won’t do his landlord any good if he has to try and find another business to fill the slot in the short/mid-term and his normal business is so solid.
I’ve got some questions on just this topic. Article drops tomorrow.
YAY! new article from Don!
Just left the gym. Owner going through the same stuff. His stress is having no idea how long he’ll be closed. 2 or 3 weeks not a problem. More than 2 months and he’s bankrupt and put of business.
Thankfully my gym is still open with additional precautions, warnings, etc. (Cville)
How many lunches do you normally eat?
I got lunch on the way to check houses and picked up wings on the way home for dinner tonight and tomorrow.
My buddy is pretty solid financially for himself (he also contracts with me 30+ hours a week while his wife and MIL run the restaurant most days) but he can’t cover salaries for 10+ employees indefinitely.
Apparently we just had death number two locally. Another 70 year old man.
The Hyperbole:
I called son and we talked a bit. He thinks like I do…as little risk as possible. Some here advised index funds. Son says right now….put your money in your mattress until this panic is over. Interest rates are at zero now and annuities are paying chickenshit. Plus you may need to have some cash on hand until the panic is gone. Two months tops and then the index funds are a good idea. They pay about 6% right now and they minimize risk.
He doesn’t like annuities because you cant access the money readily. That is exactly why I like them.
Ben Franklin: “If you save a little money every day after a year you will be surprised at how little money you have.”
Meh, Ben, I am a big fan of saving, even if it’s just a little. Better to have a little money than none.
Nobody should attempt to catch a falling knife.
7 to 10 year T-Bonds are also an option (referring to the funds based on them)
“They pay about 6% right now and they minimize risk.”
What I should have said is that they normally pay about that. They generally keep up with inflation but lately they have been doing better. When the panic is over they will return to normal.
Good advice.
45 holes today, After Bella’s walk, i played with 2 different pros for 18 each and learned a lot of new things, Great Golf day!
/20+ Mph winds
Thanks Yusef for bringing a good experience to the thread today
He’s gonna get simultaneous COVID and Net Neutrality.
Dead and Sick at the same time? Birdie try!
I threw so fast I slipped, ripped out a good shot and fell forward on my elbow, making a bloody mess, but what a shot…..
Thanks! us Golfers are not around a ton of people, and we still shake hands after a round, Self Quarantine works well around the park,
We all had very close to Aces today, that’s always fun to see, especially in High winds…
Bonus fact, I left a note to self to check Kia Fluids, Perfect, and clean, I love my Sewing Machine!
Which one did you get? I forget.
2007 Kia Sedona, but you mean my mini, this one,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GX87P1K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Nice! Love the English as a a second language/translation in the product information.
It is a nice little machine..
I was on the phone with Travelocity earlier to put off our Hawaii trip that was supposed to be Sun. The person who helped me was so great, and he was so grateful to me for not being a jerk, I just felt bad for him. How hard is it not to be an asshole to someone who’s trying to help in really difficult circumstances? c’mon, America. But I hope this blows over by August so we get to go.
If this goes til August, We are in deep Shit, however warm weather usually kill/mutates Virii, so Summer will help, or Cpt.Trips time……
Yeah, the person I spoke to at the Orleans to postpone the trip for April was pleasant as could be. That’s some damn good training, and I used my Eastern Time Zone privilege to call in early in the morning for Vegas.
Just heard that Harris County (home to Houston, and just north of me) has ordered all bars & restaurants to close for 15 days.
Welcome to Ohio! Except you’ve actually got an end date there.
Remember when the right to peaceably assemble was a thing?
“Is this fucking virus transmittable through the air, or not?!?”
We dont know.
I keep hearing, as Leap said earlier, conflicting information which tells me that the people saying it have no idea.
I can tell you this – in spite of our best efforts we are all going to be exposed. You may not be exposed until after it mutates to something harmless, but eventually we are all going to get it.
It will burn itself out in a few months at most.
We shake hands on the Golf Course, fuck it.
I read an article a few days ago where one virologist, I think that’s what he was, said this will probably be the last pandemic we ever see because of advances in technology. Hope he’s right. Then politicians can go back to the usual bad orange man doom mongering.
the last pandemic we ever see because of advances in technology
The Grave Digger 9000Z, capable of simultaneously inverting the entire surface of the earth into one mass grave.
The last gadget anyone will ever need! Now accepting pre-orders.
“Is this fucking virus transmittable through the air, or not?!?”
We dont know.
Yeah, we do.
It is via “droplet” transmission (like the flu). Likely not via “airborne” transmission (like TB). Both can be caught from breathing it in.
However, CDC et al are still recommending some airborne precautions.
at the same time (not in the CDC symptoms notes but via ADVChina so I don’t have a link) – apparently if you’re hacking up phleghm, etc it’s not coronavirus, but if you’re really short of breath with a dry cough, it’s likely to be COVID.
2 square mile Gold Monument,
Not the Flu, ran out of TP.
/Steven King warp
I’m unplugging completely for a few days. The First World has lost its goddamn mind and I can no longer be bothered to observe.
Have fun, all!
P.S. Sorry about your cat, Rhy.
The fear mongers are all having orgasm thinking this is their dream come true…we are all going to die.
A year from now we will barely remember this and the world will still be spinning.
Humanity has nothing to do with our Sweet planets rotation, we just got lucky, for now….
We’ll just move on the next crisis. Something something Trump!
Wait! you can’t catch it here! Don’t Leave us!
/Good Luck
First World Problems + internets. This is what you get.
Governor shut down schools here starting Wednesday through March 30 so teachers and administrators can come up with a “plan for future learning”. I’m essentially unemployed at the moment. No contract work right now and the wife works for the fedgov, so she will probably be WFH anyway. Gas is cheap. ROAD TRIP!! We decided to drive down to south Texas and visit my dad. We’d likely never make a trip down there since the kids would usually be in school. Lemons from lemonade!
Still plenty of beer in the stores. But the groceries, even Fresh Market, look like they’ve been raped. Fresh market doesn’t have any tomatoes, potatoes or carrots. But plenty of blueberries, I have blueberries now. And beer, it’s all good.
WalMart, really, fresh food in abundance…….
I’m going to have to do an early morning, late evening run to Walmart soon. We have an abundance of everything, but wife is freaking out, so we have to horde up some more stuff. I’ll try to get her to buy just canned stuff along with the potatoes and carrots she’s obsessing about. I really hate throwing out food, and I keep telling her that 2 people cannot eat all of this stuff. I just threw away almost an entire loaf of wheat bread because she bought 3 loaves last time and one molded before we could eat it.
For next time, bread can be frozen. I’ve started up a sourdough starter as a backup. I may also try my hand at making some spent grain flour from the beer I’m making this weekend (make beer, take grain spread out in single layers on baking sheets, dry, and grind).
“For next time, bread can be frozen.”
How do you keep it from being wet when it’s thawed out?
Toast it. It won’t be as good as fresh bread, but it won’t spoil.
Use freezer ziploc bags to keep as much air out so that ice crystals don’t form in the first place and thaw in the fridge.
The ice in most freezer burned food originates within the food I think. Driven out by the auto-defrost cycle.
Fight me.
I’m not hearing this story, but to some extent it should work if you have the time.
Most businesses have efficient radii; for grocery, that means there’s a warehouse that services an area. For DFW, for example, the Kroger distribution function is handled by a 3P in Keller. So you set up across the street at the service station for five minutes until a semi rolls out and follow it. It backs in at some store, and you head in front door and figure out where your critical items are. My guess is that the hot stuff comes out fairly promptly: hour wait for toilet paper at most.
Top off your basket with other items as needed, pay, and head out.
Well, since everything’s closed in Ohio now. I’ve ordered the supplies to brew up a batch of a DIPA.
/waits for DeWine to ban all out of state shipping.
He’s really trying hard to see how far he can push this thing, IMO.
Yeah. Just read an article about the restaurant closures in Cleveland, one of the owners interviewed (probably the one that gave the biggest number) said that he would be fine, but he was predicting 50% of the other restaurants in the area won’t make it through this closure. So when they close all the shit down, Columbus, OH Glibs meet up at his mansion?
We’d have to arrive en masse…when OSP sees a couple of us hanging around, they’ll know whats up
Well, Andy formally told me not to go into the office for two weeks, Just because I can do my job from anywhere with an internet connection.
Excellent. No trainees to give you more coronavirus.
Oh, and the Official Steel Challenge “match” dates (where they send your score in as opposed to the practices we’ve been doing) have been announced.
They are May 17, June 14, July 19, August 19 and October 18.
So those are the days where I start with the red plate?
Turns out, all the plates are supposed to be the same color. You’re supposed to paint the stand red.
Wait, how are you supposed to see that?
The vertical wood part of the stand.
Like I said, how are you supposed to see that?
Fuck this shit. I’m somewhat thinking I had Wuhan Lung AIDS six weeks back. There is no way that it took three or four months to appear in SF. I practically live in China here. It was the worst respiratory flu type thing I’ve ever had. Kids all got it and were fine in 3 days. It took me 10 and the wife almost two weeks to get over. Much lung butter and fever on and off for days.
If anything good comes out of this I would love to see a very different attitude towards the CCP. Fuck Those Cunts.
My dad’s pneumonia in January was not proven flu-related. My mom had presumably the same shit he had later in January and coughed so hard she tore her retina, but didn’t need hospitalization thank goodness. I had something that tested neg for flu but when I went to see the doc with light symptoms, he put me on tamiflu and I was okay. And I’m asthmatic, so likely more at risk for corona.
So… either this was covid, or there’s another not-exactly-flu thing wandering around that hits older people hard. I don’t know, but like you, I’m dubious SF and LA don’t have earlier cases coming straight from China.
Antibody tests when those get going should be interesting.
Even before serology testing, there’s genetic analysis of current samples compared to others for an estimate of how long it’s been present and where it’s related to.
It was around 6 weeks ago SW Ohio (from my basic survey, N= me, Jugsy, and questions I asked her doc) was subjected to an upper respiratory thing, too. Either faded away and came back, or just stuck with you for 10 days or so. I was wondering the same thing.
Yep, I reckon you’re right on all counts.
I just have a very very hard time believing that something contagious from China took months to appear here in SF. Over ten thousand people per day get off at SFO from China.
Of course the disease was there.
There were no confirmed cases because no one was being tested.
Wuhan Lung AIDS
Hubei Respiratory Herpes.
I saw a Joe Rogan podcast last week with Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm in which Osterholm stated that they know this virus made the jump from pangolin to human last November. Seeing as how fast it spreads I can’t imagine it just stayed in China from November to January.
And I was in Shanghai for a week in the middle of December. I came home with a bit of a sore throat & sinus infection – but that’s pretty common when I fly anywhere.
I still have work tomorrow, but I think we’re closing after that.
I firmly believe this is all bullshit and it angers me greatly.
It is bullshit, but it is something and people in certain roles must be seen to be doing something, so they must do this.
Yeah, unless this is some sort of sophisticated bioweapon engineered by the Chinese to mutate and become increasing more dangerous, it will all be over in a month or two.
I hear that Johns Hopkins are already testing a vaccine. Not sure if true, or not, but it won’t be long anyway.
It would be nifty if there was a world networked set of “protein printers” that would allow a recipe to be sent out for replication of a vaccine.
But there’d need to be a ton of security protocols to prevent a flub or intentional harm.
There’s vaccine testing starting at Keizer. Very very first stages. At least 1-2 years away. If things go well.
I bet it goes much faster than that. No way will FDA roadblocks be tolerated.
That would be with the roadblocks removed, unless it goes Chicom safety be damned route.
Those particular roadblocks are there for a reason.
I’m not a fan of the FDA, but the SARs vaccine trials went poorly and set people up for cytokine overreactions when they were actually exposed to the virus.
What’s going to happen if they keep up the overreaction and one upmanship, is people will just start ignoring them. So if anything really, really serious comes about, we won’t be prepared for it.
The old parable about The Boy Who Cried That Some Animals Are More Equal Than Others, right?
Overblown? Almost certainly. But it is a serious disease and it will kill a significant number of people.
Same can be said of the flu.
And driving a car.
That goes for large economic losses as well.
I did not panic buy any ammo today. I did manage to purchase a case of 5.45×39 though. ?
See how you aren’t helping the economy any? Now get to panicking and hording like a true patriot does!
I had my gf pick up 3 more bottles of vodka and two more bourbon today. That counts.
OK, you’re off the hook this time.
I got a code for a 15% discount for buying ammo directly from Federal as part of the USPSA course I took.
Even with the discount, it’s cheaper to buy the stuff from Target Sports USA
I bought a couple boxes of carry ammo to replace what I had. Never hurts to have a little more on hand.
1000 rounds of 9mm FMJ for $200.
Simple, cheap, and plentiful
Eh. I feel ripped off if I pay more than $0.14/round. Preferably < $0.13.
With all the current activity, I was surprised I got it for that.
You’re right about that.
I’m hoping my current supply lasts until production outstrips buying. Unfortunately, I’ve got less than 3500 round in 9mm at the moment, and since I am working from home now, that’s only a month’s supply.
Good Lord man. You must have a hell of a callous on your index finger.
100 rounds/day is pretty easy to do when you live across the street from a range. And since the organized shooting events that take several hours time for a very low round count (I’m looking at you, bullseye!) have been cancelled due to the plague I’ll actually be shooting more.
I know vox is behind it but I will still recommend Netflix “explained” episode on “Pandemic.” Shows how diseases, viral and bacterial, have manifest and changed over time, why we keep getting crossover viruses, why it’s perfectly natural that this will happen more and more often and WHY ITS NO FREAKING BIG DEAL.
So if people don’t learn from this pendulum swing, brace yourself for the next go.
This will never be a problem with a D President, as the media will do all they can to prevent the public from panicking and blaming the administration, IOW exactly the opposite of what they’re doing now.
Some twitter thread up-post linked to another twitter thread, who blamed most of the coronavirus deaths on old people too stupid not to watch FOX News for their information. Yes, because the mainstream media with their DNC talking points have been so constantly correct and reassuring. And the usual twitterettes are also on there, cheering how this will bring down Trump. Imagine having so much hatred for a politician (and no national politician truly affects your life directly all that much) that you want people to die, people’s life savings to be wiped out, businesses to fail and people to lose their jobs just so you can have a different politician in the position. It’s really disgusting when you think about it.
Yes, it is.
“This will never be a problem with a D President”
Correctamundo
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html
“From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.”
“Coronavirus shutdowns spread across U.S. as death toll rises to 80”
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/coronavirus-updates-cases-fears-deaths-us-latest-2020-03-16/
I was expecting a link to Dead Kennedy’s “Government Flu”
Business is booming for some companies
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/16/amazon-to-hire-100000-warehouse-and-delivery-workers.html
$2/hr temporary raise to attract/retain employees.
My school district is out till April 3.
So the Kung Flu is loose in a local retirement community (55 and better as they say).
It’s killed two and sickened at least another 8. I’m certain there’s more out there waiting on testing.
They seem to all stem from two people who came back from international travel and promptly socialized with all their elderly buddies.
“come look at our vacation slides!”
Dammit. Slept through all the good pumping again.
Stormy Daniels is always available on pr0nhub.
/premium free if you can fake a .it IP address
We need more explanation
I need more liquidity.
So either you’re talking about stocks or your wife’s breast milk production.
Contact Jesse. He has the link.
You saying it’s officially a bear market?
Swiss to aisle 3
“I need more liquidity.”
Dude, at least give it 20 minutes to recharge before you start slapping it again. Eventually you’ll be spittin’ sawdust.
A Brief History of Toilet Paper
Thanks for that. I love that kind of history.
My father still talks about using the Sears Roebuck catalog and how it sucked when there were only glossy pages left.
Are corn cobs making a comeback?
OK, now YOU guys are freaking me out, I’m staying inside,
/Except for Golf
So as politicians race to see who can impose the most draconian restrictions on the public, when/are we going to get any legal challenges?
Here’s one: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/breaking-ohio-governor-says-we-cannot-conduct-this-election-tomorrow
When it’s over and the public has become inured to the new rules.
At some point people will start ignoring that nonsense.
It’s gone from no crowds bigger than 500 to 250 to 100 to 10. Does this count socks?
George Hotz is so off the wall and eccentric. I can’t pretend I fully understand all his hyper-nerdery because I’m just a yokeltarian hayseed, but I like him. Some kind of evening post is on the way perhaps and I should stay on topic and talk about the Chinese flu or the toilet paper and such.
I drank a bunch of beer before I went to sleep, and when I woke up I had a slight headache and felt a little nauseous. I must have the virus!
That’s what you get for drinking that brand of Mexican beer
Why has Italy been so hard hit with Covid-19? No one in the media is connecting the dots.