Saturday evening links of linkage

by | May 9, 2020 | Daily Links | 369 comments

Anyone missing a link?

 

What a glorious day here in Spudsville. Low 80s, sunny and clear.

 

You’ll need a HazMat suit just to pick this up to read it.

 

As soon as the news came out, there was a run on deodorant.

 

If only he followed through.

 

There’s a certain creep factor to this.

 

I guess that message is sent.

 

For some reason, I found myself on a Jazz deep dive today. I actually saw Stan Getz live as a kid at Mondavi Winery in Napa.

 

Get your snark on, Glibs.

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Spudalicious

Spudalicious

Survey says I’m a Paleolibertarian bitches. That means I eat “L”ibertarians for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Soave tastes a little fruity. Wait a minute, that doesn’t sound quite right…

369 Comments

  1. commodious spittoon

    Firftht.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Did we make up our own language and no one told me? Dammit

      • Derpetologist

        relevant:

        The Language Sounds That Could Exist, But Don’t

        skip to 4:18

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uZam0ubq-Y

        I say they should be called Winslow consonants, after the Police Academy sound effects guy.

        Plenty of free real estate on that chart!

      • commodious spittoon

        when you make a sound you push air out of your lungs and then you cause some sort of constriction in your mouth or throat

        Yeah you do, you dirty slag.

      • Rhywun

        The labiodental flap [ⱱ] is new to me – thanks!

      • Count Potato

        Is that like a dental dam?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Michael Winslow is funny. Police Academy and Spaceballs he makes me laugh.

        The radar sir! It appears to be…jammed!

  2. AlmightyJB

    I guess everyone is still playing pretend. Sad.

  3. mock-star

    “The occasion for our talk was I Know This Much Is True, an HBO miniseries premiering May 10 which sees the A League of Their Own star flex her dramatic muscles like never before as Lisa Sheffer, a no-nonsense social worker at a mental health facility housing Thomas Birdsey (Mark Ruffalo).”

    Im sure thats going to be real good.

      • Mojeaux

        *checks music library*

        Whew! Got that one.

      • Rhywun

        missing from mine 🙁

    • C. Anacreon

      What do you suppose the odds are that Ruffalo’s character is a brilliant and creative eccentric individual who is misunderstood and forced into treatment by an evil mental health system?

      After 34 years working in the ER and close to 100,000 emergency psychiatric patients, I’ve yet to meet such an individual. However they seem to be a very common Hollywood story trope.

      Meanwhile, millions of patients in this country with schizophrenia, a horrible biological disease they developed through no fault of their own, an illness you wouldn’t wish on your worst enemy, have a difficult time finding basic treatment. Ironically, so many mental health systems actually seem instead set up for high functioning patients, like Ruffalo’s character who doesn’t exist, while trying to spend as little as possible on the most severely mentally ill.

      How great It would be for once for Hollywood to make a story about that instead.

      • Gdragon

        Ruffalo’s character is in fact a paranoid schizophrenic (and his twin brother, it’s a dual role). I’ve read the book.

      • zwak

        Book =! movie

      • Gdragon

        I obviously can’t speak for all of it but it’s pretty obvious from the HBO trailer that the brother’s condition stays true to the book.

      • Contrarian P

        No kidding. In my experience there are four basic types of psych patients that come through:

        1. Patients with schizophrenia and other severe disorders that get off their meds and quite unstable (you can’t ever get these people placed because they actually need help but can be dangerous)

        2. Substance abusers that act super depressed or crazy because of their chemical of choice (they usually turn into a completely different person once either sobered up or post sedation)

        3. Bullshit manipulators who are trying to work the system for some kind of gain, whether it’s to get attention, get medications, get somewhere to sleep, or whatever. This is by far the largest group.

        4. Patients who were actually trying to kill themselves but got stopped (few and far between)

        Note that the categories can overlap.

  4. hayeksplosives

    The Mark Cuban thing is disturbing. Was that his audition tape for a seat at the High Table?

    • leon

      Cuban has done the “I’m a libertarian, and I think the government should do x” shtick too much. Fuck him.

      Of course LP favorite “Amash” has been doing that too…

    • Sean

      Creepy AF.

      • Hyperion

        Lefties tend to come off as creepy, you know, because they are.

  5. commodious spittoon

    O∞cials say Iran attempted hack of Israel’s water system

    I don’t think that’s a real website.

  6. Tres Cool

    To bring over the BLT comment from this morning, my grocer had SPAM at a very attractive price. Lunch was fried SPAM with ‘murican cheese, on toasted fake bread, slopped with Hellman’s mayo.

    And a Claussen pickle and some cottage cheese on the side.

    • Spudalicious

      Toss the cottage cheese and I could eat that.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Thats doable Tres…sounds good.

    • Sean

      I just threw some seasoned bone in pork chops on the grill.

      Used the TJ’s 21 seasoning salute. Gonna be yummy.

    • DEG

      Takeout from a local brewpub. Prime rib, garlic green beans, mashed potatoes. Yummy.

  7. Hyperion

    Well shit, I guess my link about Musk leaving Cali didn’t get much mileage, but I’m sure it’s going to get brought up a lot in the near future.

    • hayeksplosives

      It was talked about quite a bit earlier today

      • Hyperion

        Good to hear, I think this is huge.

  8. Tres Cool

    “Rosie O’Donnell Reveals She’s Helping Michael Cohen With His ‘Spicy’ Trump Tell-All Book”

    Wasnt Tom Arnold with the assistance of Michael Moore, going to “take him down” with some un-seen apprentice footage or something ?

    • Hyperion

      “Rosie O’Donnell Reveals She’s Helping Michael Cohen With His ‘Spicy’ Trump Tell-All Book”

      Oh boy, I bet we’ve never heard any of that before.

    • Suthenboy

      Is he going to reveal Schiff’s undeniable proof of Russia collusion in this movie?

      • CPRM

        He was good in True Lies, I’ll give him that one.

      • Ownbestenemy

        He CAN be funny but it isn’t often. Roseanne definitely catapulted his career from shit to mud.

      • Tres Cool

        Even tho he was a writer for “Roseanne’, he’s a diluted Artie Lange. Artie’s stand-up is mildly entertaining.

        I’ll credit Artie for “Beer League” and “Dirty Work”. And he only wrote on the former; Norm did Dirty Work.

      • Tres Cool

        To further refine that- Tom was famous for being married to Roseanne. Artie got famous for sucking Howard Stern’s cock.

      • Rhywun

        To be fair, the show went rapidly downhill after Artie left.

      • Tres Cool

        Coke problem, alcohol problem, gambling problem, and smack problem. All at once. Thats impressive.

      • Rhywun

        Oh yeah, he was a complete mess. It’s amazing he even made it into the office most days.

      • Count Potato

        I’ll credit Artie with having a coke problem and weight problem at the same time. Which I find inconceivable.

      • Raven Nation

        Agree on True Lies

      • Suthenboy

        Is there anything Trump hasn’t done?

        This is about as believable as piss hookers.

  9. Suthenboy

    I told y’all, not all Karens are female.

    Fuck Mark Cuban.

    • Hyperion

      I didn’t even know that Mark Cuban and Julian Castro are different people. I’m pretty sure it’s only one Xe named Cuban Castro. Huh, that’s weird, that name.

    • Ownbestenemy

      He should put that much energy into how the government is actually running…

    • westernsloper

      Ya, why would he give a fuck what other businesses are doing? He can fuck off with the rest of the Karen’s.

  10. westernsloper

    What a glorious day here in Spudsville. Low 80s, sunny and clear.

    Same here. Well we hit 80 anyway. I got the new pool deck framed up, cooked burgers and wieners on the grill for the week and took a nap. I consider it a successful day. It is 4:30 PM and I am still sober so I now need to fix that.

    • Ownbestenemy

      95+ today…gonna start getting the burgers on the grill in an hour or so. Still a nice day

      • Nephilium

        ..|..

        In the 30’s here, and there was snow in the morning. There’s another freeze warning for tonight, with rain predicted through Tuesday. After that we may finally have some spring weather.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Wanna trade? You can always put more clothes on than you can take off…without scaring the neighborhood

      • Nephilium

        I do enjoy actually having four seasons… when we get all four of them. Just getting annoyed that we have had next to no spring this year.

      • westernsloper

        Fences make good neighbors and keeps the sheriffs deputies away.

      • salted earth

        The LEO’s in my neighborhood have the best fences.

      • westernsloper

        I think we are in the clear for freezes for the most part in the valleys anyways. Very rare in my neck of the woods after May 1. A few weeks ago the peach crop got obliterated with a freeze though.

      • Spudalicious

        On average, our last freeze is tomorrow. The forecast shows no chance of freeze for the next week, or so. So I should be safe with the garden in the ground.

      • Hyperion

        We’re freezing to fucking death here in the Mid Atlantic.

        It was 35 degrees this morning. I think that must be some sort of record low. My pepper plants were all droopy for a while, but then came out of it.

        Right now, 50 and windy as hell.

      • Count Potato

        The north east broke a bunch of records today.

    • Drake

      It snowed last night, was nice but cold for a while, then sleeted hard, now it’s back to cold and windy. Not what May in NJ is supposed to be.

    • Gustave Lytton

      81F. Kind of humid today. Made split pea soup last night so dinner is done for tonight. Brush pile is almost ready to be left overnight.

  11. mock-star

    A day or two ago, Sean posted a link about a Blair County (PA) gym opening up despite Tom Wolf’s shutdown orders. The County DA was quoted as saying he wouldnt bring charges as he wasnt sure that the shutdown orders are Constitutional. The local p.d. were still issuing citations, though. Today, the local city council voted to stop issuing citations to businesses opening despite the order.

    Again, Im proud of my local area, especially the DA. Traditionally, this little corner of Pennsyltucky (Blair/Bedford/Huntingdon/Fulton counties) was notorious for our horrible DAs. (Bedford’s last DA, Bill Higgins, made headlines over at TOS at least twice, IIRC.)

  12. whiz

    The NCAA has made it clear that unless college campuses are open to the entire student body in the fall, there are no plans to risk the health of student-athletes for the sake of sports.

    I must say I agree. As much as I like college sports, they should not be on campus if students are not. Maybe this will put pressure on some places to open everything up.

  13. Derpetologist

    Meet a member of Facebook’s new oversight group:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_S._Karlan

    ***
    Peter Baker, a New York Times political writer, described the subject as “a full-throated, unapologetic liberal torchbearer”.[14] Karlan has said that the United States should help Ukraine fight Russia so that the United States does not have to fight Russia on its own territory.[15]
    Personal life

    Karlan told Politico in 2009, “It’s no secret at all that I’m counted among the LGBT crowd”.[16] She has described herself as an example of “snarky, bisexual, Jewish women”.[17] Her partner is writer Viola Canales.[18]
    ***

    Oh, I’m just *sure* she’ll be the most impartial thought cop ever!

  14. Nephilium

    For those interested, I’ve set up another Happy Hour for tonight, starting at 20:00 Eastern.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Neph you are a savior in these uncertain times!

    • Tulip

      Thank you

    • Tres Cool

      Since I skipped last night to watch Tropic Thunder, I’m in.

      /saves 1 Tall Can

    • l0b0t

      Thank you. Sorry I fell asleep last night.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Your kitty kept up where you fell off

    • DEG

      Thank you!

  15. Lady Z

    Curious what you all think of this: Sioux Checkpoints

    • Ownbestenemy

      Their land…their rules I would say. I would suspect that any interstate running through reservation land has a treaty to adhere to though.

      • DEG

        From the article: BIA says the Indians have to consult with state officials:

        Last month, when the checkpoints began, the US Department of the Interior’s Bureau of Indian Affairs issued a memorandum saying tribes must consult and come to an agreement with the state of South Dakota before closing or restricting travel on state or US Highways.

        Sounds like the Sioux will lose.

        On the other hand, I don’t know if the treaties give them more leeway.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I am guessing money is tied to the state roads and interstates that pass through their land.

        Not saying I and the US to strong arm the situation but they are not tribal roads, you agreed to have them on uour land and we want them open.

        No roads leading off of the highways into tribal areas, block all you want.

      • DEG

        I’ll bet there is money tied in which lead to the BIA memo.

        Agreed on roads leading into tribal lands.

    • Tres Cool

      Dont they know they don’t have the best track record fighting the US gov’t?

      At the very least, someone will get *dons sunglasses*…..sued.

    • l0b0t

      Can I dislike both sides? I think I dislike both sides.

      • Lady Z

        #metoo

        I really want Noem to be right here, but I just don’t know.

    • westernsloper

      The res’s in NM got hit hard by the Vid which makes sense since the virus is not kind to some with health conditions that are rampant on res’s. I see it as a property rights issue. If I was so inclined I could do the same to anyone who wanted to come down my driveway. Luckily nobody wants to come down my driveway since I am the weird, crazy freak in the neighborhood which has taken years to establish by being the guy who doesn’t talk to his neighbors or go to any neighborly functions.

      • The Hyperbole

        I found that by covering all your windows with aluminum foil you can greatly speed up the process of becoming the weird, crazy freak in the neighborhood.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Does it get you laid though? Asking for a friend

      • Tres Cool

        /bets long; buys more foil

      • The Hyperbole

        Sure, but you have to be willing to ignore the DSIIC rule. Tell “your friend” that the chicks attracted to weird crazy freaks often (always) have some (many) issues themselves.

      • westernsloper

        Truth.

      • westernsloper

        I prefer foil covered inch and a half foam board.

      • slumbrew

        Check out Robin Leach over here.

    • CPRM

      our efforts to do what science and facts dictate

      Nuh uh, you’re the poopyhead!

    • Gustave Lytton

      Racist pseudo governments shouldn’t be able to shut down state highways anymore than any other group of private citizens are able to.

      • Lady Z

        I think I’m with you here. Especially if they are interfering with South Dakota(en?)s’ ability to move within the state.

      • Tres Cool

        Or maybe like prevent a pipeline from crossing? I’d think people doing the pipeline would just point to Kelo and have standing.

      • Suthenboy

        What OwnBestEnemy says above. That they are blocking the highway proper makes me suspicious there is a money angle to it. With Indians there almost always is.

  16. DEG

    The occasion for our talk was I Know This Much Is True, an HBO miniseries premiering May 10 which sees the A League of Their Own star flex her dramatic muscles like never before as Lisa Sheffer, a no-nonsense social worker at a mental health facility housing Thomas Birdsey (Mark Ruffalo).

    So what you’re saying is, is I won’t miss anything but not watching that miniseries?

    Israel has engaged in cyber-sabotage against Iran as well. U.S. and Israeli intelligence agencies created the computer worm called Stuxnet, which crippled 1,000 centrifuge machines made by Iran to enrich uranium. Neither country has officially confirmed its role. U.S. officials believe the attack, discovered in 2010, set back Iran’s nuclear program by months.

    Iran to date has not successfully carried out a cyberattack sabotaging industrial equipment. Iranian hackers penetrated controllers at a small dam in New York in 2013, but did no damage. They have also gained access to U.S. electric systems, but have not caused disruptions.

    The Iranians are learning.

    “Tesla is filing a lawsuit against Alameda County immediately. The unelected & ignorant ‘Interim Health Officer’ of Alameda is acting contrary to the Governor, the President, our Constitutional freedoms & just plain common sense!”

    Not bad.

    On his Blog Maverick website, Cuban said he looked to answer some of those questions by working with ShiftSmart in order to investigate business reopenings in Dallas using “secret shoppers.”

    To put it simply, Cuban said: “It’s not good.”

    Go fuck yourself.

    • Sean

      I am sure of it! ?

    • Nephilium

      A very good beer, and a brewery I make it a point to support on a regular basis. The taphouse in the Baltimore airport is solid as well.

    • Tres Cool

      Already am. Get on my level.

    • Hyperion

      I’m well on my way.

    • Aus

      I’m headed to a house party 🙂

      Heavy drinking to commence.

      Have a good night everyone!

      • Nephilium

        A house party? Does Dr. Acton know about this?

        Have a good time.

  17. Count Potato

    Here is a headline I wasn’t expecting:

    “China cracks down on coronavirus information written in Morse code and Klingon

    Social media users in China who noticed censors had deleted articles and messages that criticized communist China’s handling of the coronavirus recreated messages in Morse code, but they were still deleted.

    Communist China has come under heavy criticism after authorities in Wuhan arrested whistle-blowers who sought to warn the public about the spread of the coronavirus, which has given way to rumors that the cover-up fueled the pandemic.

    One deleted article about the ugly situation in Wuhan that caused an outcry was written out again and re-posted by dozens of social media users in over 10 languages in a bit to test out the severity of the censorship.

    Some posted it in Morse code, ancient Chinese script, and even Klingon—the widely known fictional language used in the Star Trek universe—to see what the government would do.

    But all the messages, despite every language it was written in, was deleted.

    The Chinese authorities have also cracked down on citizen-journalists who have reported on the pandemic’s catastrophic effects.”

    https://thepostmillennial.com/china-cracks-down-on-social-media-articles-written-in-morse-code-and-klingon

  18. Count Potato

    “This trans influencer is outing and hunting down gay men in Morocco

    There is a recent crisis amongst the gay community in Morocco that has resulted in many gay men disappearing or even committing suicide. This is thanks to transgender beauty influencer Sofia Talouni, who used her verified Instagram account with 6000,000+ followers to out gay men in the country, with the intent of having them hunted down and arrested.

    It is illegal to be gay in Morocco, and is punishable by fine and up to 3 years in prison. Homophobia is rampant in the country, with many gay men fearing social ostracization and violence.

    Talouni went live on her Instagram to encourage her female followers to create fake gay dating apps to discover and lure the gay men in their lives to admit their sexual orientation. Instagram has responded by deleting her account, but the damage she did was immense.

    After her call to action, a flood of women and straight men created fake ads and outed between 50-100 gay men. Tragically, 2 of these men have reportedly committed suicide.”

    https://thepostmillennial.com/this-trans-influencer-is-outing-and-hunting-down-gay-men-in-morocco

    https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/1259166247670833152

    CWAA

    • Suthenboy

      “transgender beauty influencer ”

      I dont know what that gibberish means and I am pretty sure I want to keep it that way.

      • Rhywun

        A lot of trannies are actually running away from being gay.

      • Mojeaux

        And parents willing to go along in a desperate bid to lie to themselves that their children are gay. WHY?! I don’t understand why anyone would want to be trans than gay. It makes no sense to me.

      • Suthenboy

        Advice from a guy who spent ten years working in a mental hospital: Stop trying to figure it out. They are mentally ill. Just leave it at that.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        I know in Iran it’s illegal to be gay but not illegal to be trans. So you gays going under the knife to avoid being killed. Sounds like the same thing in Morocco.

      • Mojeaux

        But you have someone actively outing gay men because…? That’s pure evil.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        Yes, yes it is. I wonder what the Arabic word for
        Karen is?

      • Rhywun

        I don’t understand why anyone would want to be trans than gay.

        Because being a gay man is icky, but playing at being a woman is kitschy and “fun”.

        (Speaking only of XY’s here.)

      • Mojeaux

        It may be icky to a lot of people, but it’s a statistical norm. I cannot be convinced that transgenderism is statistically significant.

      • Sean

        It’s like you’ve never been to xhamster.com

      • Mojeaux

        Well if that’s your scale…

      • straffinrun

        Sean kicking it up a gere.

      • Mojeaux

        What is the unit of measure?

        1 gere = 3/4 hamster?

      • Chafed

        Straff going strong to the hoop.

      • l0b0t

        I was once scolded (and almost fired) by my employer for using the word tranny to refer to a stunningly beautiful customer who graced our shop the day before. I found it odd as, in a previous career, I sold clothes and shoes to the strippers of the French Quarter, a great many of whom are transgendered and ALL refer to themselves as trannies.

        Fun Fact – We sold ladies shoes in whole sizes 5 – 15. Shoe delivery came in every Wednesday. Sizes 11 – 15 sold out by closing time every Wednesday.

      • Mojeaux

        What is the difference between “transgendered” and people who are playing a part? I always saw “trannies” and drag queens as people playing a part.

      • l0b0t

        As I understand it (and I could be completely off base here, my sample size is small), transgendered folk are actively seeking to change their bodies through things like HRT and surgery. While drag/transvestites are men (regardless of sexual orientation) who are dressed as ladies.

      • slumbrew

        While drag/transvestites are men (regardless of sexual orientation) who are dressed as ladies.

        I’d hazard a guess that straight drag queens are rarer than hen’s teeth

      • pistoffnick

        Comedian Eddie Izzard claims to be straight and cross dresses and is hilarious.

      • slumbrew

        Cake or death?!

        Good counter example. Still, rare I expect.

      • pistoffnick

        Do you have a flag?

      • Rhywun

        There’s some blurring of the lines here but in general, drag queens are gay men by day who dress up for fun at night. Transgendered are those who think they actually are the opposite sex.

      • Ted S.

        Thank you, Al Bundy.

      • Count Potato

        “A lot of trannies are actually running away from being gay.”

        In Muslim countries, yes, but don’t see that as being true in the west.

      • Rhywun

        Not as common in the west, where gay men are more accepted, but my gut says it’s still a factor.

      • one true athena

        I think it’s true in the west, as well, at least to some extent. I know there’s been a couple studies of trans-who-de-transitioned who said they were gay later though who knows what percentage that is.

        Of course, the transtrender thing is gonna cloud the issue, since some of those kids have to be garden variety hets that are being Munchausened into transitioning.

        Though I think a favorable sign may be that the new thing appears to be nonbinary – since it’s not special to be gay or trans now, you need ALL THE PRONOUNS. But since it seems to be mostly an expression thing (chicks dressing in suits, instead of dudes in dresses, afaict) it’s not as permanent either.

      • Count Potato

        “I know there’s been a couple studies of trans-who-de-transitioned who said they were gay”

        Well, if they de-transitioned one could argue they weren’t trans in the first place.

    • straffinrun

      I’m shocked, shocked to find that cocksucking is going on in here!

      • Ted S.

        Your “winnings”, sir.

      • straffinrun

        Oh, thank you very much.

  19. hayeksplosives

    I just got cussed out by a California quail. They’re too cute to piss me off.

    • Q Continuum

      Quail is delicious. Jus’ sayin’…

      • dbleagle

        Quail is wonderful. Brown them, put in cream with sherry and paprika. Top with avacado slices and bake. MMM mmm good.

      • Suthenboy

        “Top with avacado”

        Gah! And you were doing so well up to then

      • dbleagle

        It is the ONLY way I can eat any amount of snot fruit. I put only a few slices but it adds something to the sauce. Sometimes I don’t even eat the cado.

      • C. Anacreon

        We have a bunch of quail that hang out in our northern California back yard. Are they the same kind you’d eat? Not that I’d have any intention of doing so or any way to do it without the neighbors calling the cops. I do enjoy seeing them, especially when a big family walks in line down our driveway, looking like the beginning credits on the Partridge Family.

    • straffinrun

      Throw a potatoe at it.

      • westernsloper

        You carry around potatoes?

      • Naptown Bill

        What you did there, it was seen.

    • westernsloper

      Worst collection ever.

    • DEG

      Good collection.

      #23

      • westernsloper

        I get a DNS error.

    • Naptown Bill

      Can’t even pick just one. I think there were three who I’d pass by.

    • Chafed

      What’s with the photo of 36? I’ve got to believe that lighting isn’t an accident.

  20. Derpetologist

    The garden full of poisonous plants with a skull on the gate

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGo9gYypQc8

    It also has marijuana, which is kept in a cage and used to teach children about the danger of drugs.

    comment gold: “This one kills you, this one kills you, this one kills you, this one behind the cage…it makes you giggle and eat junk food, this one kills you…”

    The most interesting part: the duchess who set up the garden figured the only way to get children to listen to lectures about plants was to tell them about the deadly ones.

    Feed me, Seymour!

    • hayeksplosives

      Yup. And King Tut’s tomb gets kids interested in archaeology, Jack the Ripper in crime solving, etc.

      Clever duchess.

  21. LJW

    GBI reviewing additional video footage in Ahmaud Arbery case

    I’ve been trying to avoid this story like the plague. But, this is turning into one of those situations where I hate everyone except for the victim. I suspected the going for a jog narrative was bullshit, and it’s starting to look like it is. Regardless it doesn’t justify the gung ho idiots hunting him down.

    • Naptown Bill

      I don’t see how this is incompatible with him having gone for a jog in the neighborhood. The positive narrative for this is that he was jogging through the neighborhood, had stopped to walk for a while, saw a house under construction and clearly uninhabited, and curiosity got the best of him. He ducks in to check it out, which is something I’ve done in the past, and then heads back out for the run. Maybe he got spooked when he saw another person in the street, or maybe he just happened at that point to decide to get back to running.

      • Viking1865

        I still think those two dudes should be on trial for some form of homicide, but the fact that Arbery did in fact trespass really changes the narrative. He walked into someone else’s house without permission, a neighbor saw him do it, called the cops, told the two assholes, and then it all went very bad from there.

        But it wasn’t, as the media portrays it, a couple racist white guys killing a black dude for sport. He did in fact commit a crime, they didn’t confront him for jogging while black. They confronted him for trespassing on a neighbor’s property. I really am struggling to come up with an innocent reason to walk around a very normal suburban house under construction. I can see myself popping into a log cabin or a mansion under construction to see what its like, but not a house like that.

        I mean, does anyone think that a white guy sneaking around a neighbors house under construction would get a warm handshake and a beer? I think the same events would have occurred.

      • Naptown Bill

        It’s trespassing, for sure, but it’s not clear to me that the house isn’t a developer’s new construction versus somebody who bought the property and is putting a house on it. And for that matter, it doesn’t look like anyone has actually lived in the house as it stands, like it’s not an addition being built where there are people living in the old part of the house. And yeah, none of that changes that he doesn’t have a legal right to be there, but what I’m saying is I can see a normal, morally-decent person seeing a house that’s obviously not a home yet and wanting to maybe have a peek inside before anyone actually lives in it. Or, if it’s a developer doing it, maybe taking a quick look to see if he’d be interested in buying it later.

        I’m not sure there’s a race element, but I wouldn’t rule it out. I think it’s too easy, lazy, and shitty to just say, “Well, it’s two Bubbas in the South and a black victim, so it was a lynching, obviously.” I also don’t think it’s impossible that it could just be two guys who are playing vigilante, heard about someone creeping around houses, see a young black man they don’t recognize and make some assumptions influenced by prejudice. I don’t want it to be that, but I don’t want that to blind me to the possibility that it might be that, either, if you see what I mean.

      • Chafed

        That’s a sensible take on the situation.

      • Viking1865

        “saying is I can see a normal, morally-decent person seeing a house that’s obviously not a home yet”

        For me personally, I’d be worried about a neighbor calling the cops and a situation developing. But then again, I will walk the long way around a block rather than cut through someone’s yard, and I always get annoyed when my dogs decide they must poop on the lawn rather than the city strip or the alley.

        I mean I certainly can see an innocent explanation for it, but I think the fact that he did trespass changes things for me. Before this information came out, I thought these two kinds were just complete assholes and almost unquestionably racist. Why else would you try to citizens arrest a random jogger, other than hes black?

        But now the fact is that he isn’t a random jogger, hes a trespasser. It wasn’t “LOOOK AT THAT NIGRA RUNNING!!!!” it was “Hey theres the black guy in white shorts and white tshirt that Bob saw in and around the house under construction. ”

        “I’m not sure there’s a race element, but I wouldn’t rule it out.”

        I think that, sadly, the racial element comes in after the confrontation began. I don’t wish to think ill of people, but I do think that if a basic white dude had said “Ohhhh woah guys I just got curious and decided to duck inside the house, I didn’t think anyone would mind” that the trigger finger would have been a little less hasty.

      • creech

        See a gun, put hands up, say “Don’t shoot; please call the cops.”

      • Plinker762

        My experience is that new homes being constructed are regularly visited by locals until the doors go on. (I haven’t seen any pictures of the house involved in this story)

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        This. I can’t count how many partially constructed homes I’ve walked through just to see what the layout is.

      • The Hyperbole

        Yep, people are always coming through our houses while under construction. I go to the trouble of putting up temporary railings around the stairwell when leave every day because I can imagine some looky-loo falling into the basement and injuring themselves and lawsuits and what not.

    • Count Potato

      It’s all so tiring.

      • commodious spittoon

        They’re not your friend.

  22. Sean

    “Devastating stories are emerging from across the state.

    Nurses at the Gardens at West Shore in Cumberland County told Spotlight PA they are testing positive for the coronavirus and being told to “take Tylenol and come back.” They were instructed not to test residents with symptoms of the virus, they said, and were forbidden from telling families and other residents about cases. Sick residents that had been moved to a separate area were later moved back among the general population. And nurses said they are reusing each other’s protective gear, and often wear the same gowns between caring for well and sick residents.”

    https://www.pennlive.com/coronavirus/2020/05/pa-had-an-early-plan-to-protect-nursing-home-residents-from-the-coronavirus-but-never-fully-implemented-it.html

    ~2/3 of our CV deaths state wide come from these assisted living type communities. Most of this was preventable, but our government and institutions are staffed with fucking retards.

    “At least 71 people have died at the Brighton Rehabilitation and Wellness Center in Beaver County, where weeks ago facility administrators said they presumed the more than 750 residents and staff all had the virus. The state quietly appointed a temporary management company to run the center in mid-April, and lawmakers in the region have called for a federal investigation into the nursing home. Brighton is one of 16 state facilities listed as a candidate for additional federal oversight because of documented problems.”

    ?

    • DEG

      Fuck.

    • westernsloper

      The first thing known about this virus was that it was almost a near certain death sentence to the elderly with other conditions. (as is pretty much any illness to people in that condition) How so many states, including my own, did not address long term care facilities as the first course of action is really baffling. It is like the would be rulers were so eager to flex there lock down muscles they completely ignored the facilities that account for the vast majority of the body count.

      • Sean

        I already addressed this…It’s not baffling.

        “but our government and institutions are staffed with fucking retards.”

        And yet, the useful idiots clamor for moar “top men/women/other” to control their lives.

      • westernsloper

        Good point

    • Count Potato

      That is just evil.

    • Suthenboy

      Those guidelines are guesswork.

      • Gustave Lytton

        The truth is they probably didn’t follow them as they are Top.Men. and don’t have to do the sort of things that the little people must do.

      • Naptown Bill

        ^This. The guidelines are probably broadly speaking good standard practice for minimizing your exposure to contagious diseases, but the idea that they’re in any way effective specifically against COVID-19 to the degree that it would be worth shredding civil liberties for them is not supported by evidence. Dave Smith refers to this whole episode as very much like the Iraq War. Bad information fueling worse government, a complicit media, and a full-court press to shame anyone who is the least bit skeptical. Also, shifting goal posts, from “flatten the curve” to “minimize the number of infections”, and as the damage mounts and more information comes out about how badly this was all botched, fingers starting to point.

  23. straffinrun

    The Mother’s day eve is Milf’s day.

    • kinnath

      Mother’s day comes nine months after Father’s night.

    • straffinrun

      Now I’m not advocating anything, but I’m pretty sure the Nazi’s would’ve found a cure already.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      So I’ve already bought enough tonic water to drown an elephant, enough ivermectin to deworm an elephant, enough nicotine to addict a herd of elephants, and now I’ve got to stock up on something else?

      • Count Potato

        Nicotine?

      • C. Anacreon

        Yup, a study showed smokers are 5x less likely to catch Lil Rona.

        Light up, everybody! Smoke em if you got em.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        But if a smoker actually catches it it’s generally not good. Maybe get some Snus.

      • Rhywun

        I hope it’s just the nicotine.

        *vapes up*

      • Count Potato

        PG kills germs.

  24. Nephilium

    So who wants to advertise what they’ve been drinking during the lockdown?

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      How do you advertise rainwater and grain alcohol?

    • Spudalicious

      The answer would be “yes”.

  25. straffinrun
    • kinnath

      No masks.

      Snow?

    • Nephilium

      Damn transfer tubes are down again.

      /Futurama

    • Rhywun

      Circles get the squares.

      • C. Anacreon

        Paul Lynde to block?

      • Ted S.

        I would have picked Charo.

      • C. Anacreon

        Areeba! Coochie-Coochie.

        Or maybe Wally Cox or Cliff Arquette.

    • westernsloper

      Covidhopscotch.

    • pistoffnick

      Beam me up, Scotty. There is no fucking intelligent life down here.

    • Chafed

      Most compliant homeless population ever.

    • zwak

      Millenial circles of shame… 5 for a dollar!

  26. cyto

    Time for “Ask The Commentariate”, the segment of our evening where I admit that I’ve been out for a couple of days and don’t know what is going on…. or for those things that I am aware of, I’m at a loss as to why they are going on.

    First up…. the guys who killed the jogger in Georgia, claiming they were apprehending a burglar.

    So, at first blush I see a couple of wanna-be cops doing something really stupid and ending up as murderers. At second blush, I think… that can’t be right. There has to be more. Like, they know the guy somehow. Maybe he’s banging the son’s ex?

    But I didn’t deep dive, partially because the wife is on this like Balko on a no-knock drug raid that ends with an 80 year old lady shot dead in her bed and a half-bottle of Xanax as the big drug haul. She’s convinced that this is the most worst and shocking thing since Casey Anthony. (She’s a CNN addict in the Covid era) She’s convinced that they are a couple of KKK members who just wanted to hunt a black man and kill him. Now, in the interest of domestic peace, I’ve kept from diving too deep… because I’m pretty sure my take is going to be more about the prosecutor’s office than about a couple of yahoos (being that government is the “systemic” part of the equation, not two idiots with guns). And I’m genetically incapable to listening to rants that are based on things that I know to be untrue. So I’ve avoided that certain knowledge.

    So here’s the question: Is there actually any “white supremacist” angle here, particularly the “They are in the KKK” part of the story? Because my default position on that is always “there aren’t more than 2 or 3 thousand KKK members in the entire nation, so unless they personally and publicly proclaim their Klan affiliation, I’m calling BS on that… simply based on the odds. So, KKK, or just a couple of dumbass wannabe cop rednecks?

    Also, I’ve seen enough to know that the DA is cozy with the family. Does she have any justification for her actions? I mean, you aren’t likely to get a more obvious case than this.. particularly with a nice, helpful video to let you know exactly which parts of their story were full of crap. Even absent a murder charge, isn’t it pretty obvious that they’ve got open and shut cases on a whole slew of criminal charges?

    What did I miss on this by avoiding the deep dive?

    • hayeksplosives

      Dumbass wannabe cop rednecks. Final Answer.

      • Spudalicious

        Dad was a former cop, and from what I’ve observed, once they’re retired, they’re still cops.

      • Spudalicious

        The perp, not my dad, that is.

    • straffinrun

      Jogger, please.

    • Chafed

      My condolences on having to deal with your wife. Two prosecutors were recused. The DA who filed has no connection to the defendants. See Naptown Bill’s analysis above for a reasonable take on the situation.

    • Ted S.

      She’s convinced that this is the most worst and shocking thing since Casey Anthony.

      More like the worst and most shocking thing since Nancy Grace.

    • DEG

      Best part is the KY AG switched sides on some of those KY lawsuits. Initially he said the governor’s orders were A-OK and constitutional… then flipped to “nope, not constitutional.”

    • Chafed

      The casual callousness of social media.

    • Ted S.

      That story is dated November 2019.

      And only part of the call?

  27. cyto

    Second out of the loop question: My friends have been texting me with links to stuff about Flynn. What I’ve seen from that and from the Schiff papers is that the whole thing has now been laid bare. Those who were hiding their hope behind that last little fig leaf are now staring at the naked truth. The entire thing was a political operation from the jump. Comey, Lynch and their minions went after Flynn with absolutely no justification, not even a pretext. It was simply to get someone to flip on Trump, or get him out of the picture – perhaps even for personal reasons as a bonus.

    Yet nobody seems to be too worked up. Why? MSNBC has been lying to America for 3 years at the behest of senior Obama administration officials and Schiff’s office. So has CNN and a host of others. They are standing out in the open without cover now. The Flynn documents and the Schiff documents show that they were not telling the truth. They prove that all of those “senior officials tell us that there is secret evidence that proves Trump colluded with Russia” stories were lies. The people who were going on TV telling us that they knew the real truth – Schiff, Brennan, Comey, Lynch, etc…. they all testified that they had no evidence at all. Not even a rumor. They were lying in public, but they swore to tell the truth and then the lie disappeared.

    Where’s the outcry?

    All I’m seeing is “outrage” that Barr dropped the case against Flynn. Obama’s crocodile tears I get… he’s got to be concerned that his meddling in the Trump campaign and later the administration will eventually come back to him. But why is anyone else running with that? I’ve seen a bunch of stories calling this “the politicization of the DOJ by Trump”. I mean, that’s delusional, right?

    And make no mistake, this isn’t “politics as usual”. Using the FBI and CIA to destroy political enemies lives is as serious as it gets… but they went way further. They attempted to leverage that lie to oust a duly elected president. And that ain’t politics. That’s actual, no shit Treason. And it seems like it is rock-solid proven with these two doc dumps.

    So where’s the concern for democracy? Where’s the demands for inquiry? Where are the people pounding their chests about being lied to? What in the ever loving hell is going on?

    Or did I miss something? I mean, it seems like a slam-dunk to me. But then again, I called B.S. the moment they claimed that the “wiretapping” that Trump was an insane conspiracy theorist for claiming happened was because of a “counter-intelligence investigation” due to attempts by Russia to infiltrate the Trump campaign. I’ve run that logic down before, and I don’t think you need to be brilliant to see why that’s an obvious lie. You don’t do “counter intelligence” to protect the presidency by hiding the fact that you’re looking in to such things from the president elect. And you certainly don’t protect the campaign by not working with them to identify and neutralize the threat. But that is all water under the bridge now…. now they know for sure. It is in writing. They had nothing, they knew they had nothing and they went out to destroy lives simply to get someone to flip on Trump and say something bad about him. It’s all there in their own words. So why is there less outrage about this than there was about someone on the internet being upset about an all-female SJW Ghostbusters remake?

    • Count Potato

      Probably because it’s kung flu 24/7.

      • Count Potato

        If right-leaning media made enough noise about it, then left-leaning media would have to respond.

      • C. Anacreon

        Then the mainstream news would be about the crazed right-wing assault on our democracy, and thank goodness we have Schiff as a voice of reason.

        Face it, the DNC operatives with bylines have already agreed to completely ignore all this and tell anyone who asks that it’s ‘not newsworthy’. If the Republicans find some way to press the issue, which they’re likely too pussy to even try, they’ll need something like a semen-stained dress before they can get the slightest attention, which will all be negative against them anyway.

      • cyto

        I was washing dishes, so I made it to the end. The punchline was on point though…. a completely made up conspiracy by Maddow that said Trump edited out a question from a press conference with Putin. Retweeted fourteen thousand times. The correction didn’t even say what the correction was… just that a correction was made to the text of a prior story. Retweeted…. 14 times.

    • Chafed

      I wish I knew Cyto. This seems like a huge, important story. I can only assume the media that’s been in the tank for this story is too embarrassed to report the truth.

      • Viking1865

        The funniest thing about it is that the no shit actual Right Wing Media has been all over this from the beggining. That woman at the Federalist whos name escapes me has been absolutely right about pretty much everything…..so who is the Cuck Rightwing Media citing? Why, the few honest lefties who are making tepid “Well…..now we know the facts…….” type writing. Not a hat tip for the people who predicted how this would all shake out 2 years ago.

        National Review is fucking worthless. It was always very MetroCon, but at this point its just the controlled opposition. They’ll happily march us all to the camps as long as a Haaavahhd man gives the order.

      • Chafed

        I disagree at least in part. KDW and Charles C. W. Cooke are terrific.

      • cyto

        BTW, I, not being of the right wing or of the media, personally called it in the Spring of 2017. Actually, in the late fall of 2016, but the real nail in the coffin was the article in the NYT where the Obama administration admitted to sabotaging the Trump administration with the intention of spawning an independent council and impeachment. My first post on the topic was when they admitted that it was a counterespianage investigation and that’s why they had to listen in on some phone calls of the Trump campaign. That’s when I called it as Obama spying on the enemy campaign and called the whole thing a sham. Because they denied that they had ever “tapped the phones”, and then when they admitted it they said it was to protect the Trump campaign from an attempted infiltration by Russian operatives. That’s an obvious and transparent lie.

        The fact that nobody prominent in politics noticed that obvious lie is kinda scary. Either they knew and were afraid to say anything, or they were to dumb to figure it out. Either way, scary….

    • J. Frank Parnell

      Well, about a third of the population thinks any “crimes” committed in the name of stopping Orange Hitler are not just fine but a moral imperative. If anything, they’re mad at Obama for not going far enough.

      Then there’s a bunch of people in the middle who really don’t have the attention span for this, and if you try to explain the details they’ll just kind of zone out and dismiss the whole thing as politics as usual.

      There’s people who realize this is a big deal, but they’re a bunch of conspiracy theorists who blame Obama for everything (according to the media and the first group I mentioned), so they can be safely ignored.

  28. Rufus the Monocled

    Every time I fucken open the computer up I find out about a new asshole.

    Step up you asshole Mark Cuban.

    What a fucken prick. He’s a snitch.

    Of course compliance will be low you asshole. IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP GOING.

    I bet you he and his shark morons are the first to break the rules.

    Fuck everyone.

    Fucken degenerate hypocrites.

    Earlier I saw Obama babbling about Trump’s response to Covid. Why is this clown talking? Just last week he was out FUCKING GOLFING.

    I’ve just about had it with people.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      And if ONE MORE PERSON tells me they’re doing to save MY parents I’m going to open their mouths and spit in it.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Ok. I’ve had my Snickers bar.

        I wasn’t myself.

        How’s everyone?

      • Rufus the Monocled

        https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/1258391791658840064

        Everyone wants masks, gloves, a sterile environment, a stick-a-buttah, quart-a-milk and a loaf-a-bread.

        Run for office Mark! You’re the right kind of bootlicker we need to soothe our fears!

      • Tejicano

        You forgot to mention cake. They all want cake.

      • Ted S.

        Someone left my cake out in the rain. 🙁

      • Tejicano

        +1 retarded Macarthur Park song.

      • Ted S.

        Richard Harris has a sad.

      • Nephilium

        I’m alright. Went to a protest today, so I’ve got that going for me.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        How was it?

      • Nephilium

        ~100 people there, one crazy person ranting about the NWO, about 5 anti-vaccers, and the rest relatively sane. More support from the locals driving by then we were expecting.

      • DEG

        Getting drunk.

  29. cyto

    And finally…. Biden and Reade. Whazzup wit dat?

    The chick sat down for an interview and now we’ve got everything. And they’ve done some digging and we have Biden giving the Campus standard of “preponderance of the evidence” as the way to go in these cases – absent any ability to cross examine – and we have Biden (on The View, no less) saying that Kavanaugh was a job interview and you don’t need a reasonable doubt standard to not hire someone. He also said two weeks of FBI investigation was not enough to fully determine the facts. But her testimony was credible and it took a lot to come forward …. so she should be believed.

    Now, we have pretty much every Dem there is with “then and now” contrasts. Saying about Kavanaugh – believe her credible testimony, she didn’t need to come forward before, it is irrelevant that he’s been through hearings before, it is irrelevant that she can’t even name the year – let alone the time and place … etc. on and on. And then “Biden answered the question forthrightly, and I believe him”. This from the most vitriolic of DNC women who were uber-offended that someone who may have grabbed a boob over the sweater at a high school party 35 years ago would dare show his face in public – lack of a single corroborating witness be damned. Meanwhile, we have very strong evidence that Reade complained at the time and was demoted for her efforts. (we know for sure she was demoted and then quit, and we know that she gave sexual harassment as the reason at the time). Not a single one of those outraged senate women seem to believe her. None of them even want to discuss the contrast.

    Where’s the outrage? Where are the people pounding the table on this one?

    • Rufus the Monocled

      Dude. You really have to ask?

      These people are not driven by honour or principles.

      • Chafed

        What the Muppet said.

    • Tejicano

      I guess you haven’t noticed one of the leftists’ standard replies since as long as I can remember – “But that’s different”.

    • C. Anacreon

      He’s running for president, it shouldn’t be like a job interview

      /npr

      • cyto

        That’s pretty high quality snark!

    • Derpetologist

      Prince Harry was nagged into giving up his rifles.

      Rue, Britannia.

      Prince Harry sells £50,000 hunting rifles as he bids to please animal-loving wife Meghan Markle
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6k0BJOEX_M

      • Tejicano

        When my wife married me she knew that the guns were part of the package. No discussion.

        This Meghan seems to be the type who, from the beginning, expected him to change for her and has been waiting for the point in time when she can pressure him to make each and every change.

        Oh, and there is no limit to this either. She will always have “just one more thing” she needs him to change.

      • Hyperion

        Nope. She’ll figure out that he’s a pussy and leave him. /the end

      • AlmightyJB

        Most likely outcome.

      • Tejicano

        The entire world has known he’s a pussy for months (when it went past the point where you couldn’t ignore it anymore). It seems to me that she is reasonably confident that she will never find a more pussified male so she’ll ride this one into the grave. I hate to imagine the depraved psychological games she will be playing on this poor fool.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Sort of like she knew he was a prince and the whole British royal family drama (thanks to Charles and Dianer airing their laundry in public) before she jumped in.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      That’s a lot of people who want granny to die.

      Sad.

  30. J. Frank Parnell

    Here’s a guy who’s got it all figured out:

    Bill Kristol
    @BillKristol
    Straightforward from here:
    * President Trump has to self-quarantine due to possible exposure to coronavirus, can’t fulfill duties of presidency in quarantine, steps down.
    * VP Pence has to self-quarantine, can’t fulfill duties of vice presidency, steps down.
    * President Pelosi.
    4:54 PM · May 9, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

    • Chafed

      JFC. I suppose Twitter is the only place left for him to draw an audience.

      • Hyperion

        This is what happens when you haven’t had any pussy in 20 years.

      • Chafed

        I wonder if at some point his wife told him to stop writing ridiculous shit.

      • Count Potato

        Probably not, that’s how he makes a living.

  31. SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

    Conversation with my mom and grandparents today went exactly as expected. Did you know that everybody protesting the lockdown has a 65 IQ and probably molests babies and puppies? Oh, and Trump is a special kind of evil and all real Republicans are going to vote for Biden. Oh, and despite your vivid memories of us bashing Bush 20 years ago, we were solid republican voters until this upcoming election.

    • Chafed

      Hmmm. Sounds familiar. We might be related.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I tried to play the reasonable middle, conceding that Trump is a boorish egotist and that I don’t plan on voting for him. When I mentioned that I hate having to defend him when his critics get it so wrong, it was like I said that I have a Trump shrine in my basement.

        Similarly, when I tried to humanize the lockdown protesters here in Columbus, it was like I kicked a kitten.

      • slumbrew

        Wow, it’s like you were listening on my phone call.

      • Chafed

        You wouldn’t have the shrine if you didn’t defend him.

      • Count Potato

        I’m voting for Trump because Biden thinks he’s running for Governor of Delaware.

    • AlmightyJB

      I just saw on CNN how letting someone in the White House be exposed to Covid (i.e. The Black Plague i.e. the flu) is akin to giving Putin our nuclear launch codes. The ratio of Derp to non-Derp has increased exponentially over the last few months. Worse than any virus I would say.

    • Hyperion

      Turn off CNN, mum.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        They’re very much stereotypical boomers/whatever my grandparents are in that they flip on the local and national news religiously at 5pm for the daily ingestion of leftist propaganda. Shock of shocks, their critical reasoning parts of their brains (which I know they have) are shut off, and it’s pure emoting from then on.

        There were a few times I had to suppress disgust as they were cheering on clear abuses of constitutional rights.

      • Hyperion

        Yeah, I get it. My dad is 91 and he watches all the networks all day long and gets it all confused together. I’m like ‘Sure, dad, right’. Unfortunately, there’s no cure for dementia. I hope that if I ever get like that, I can just pre-order myself alcohol, weed, and all the other drugs I want so I can enjoy it more.

    • slumbrew

      Huh, it’s almost like they’ve been talking to my mom.

      Today’s conversation hit:

      Her (after some pushback on her TDS nonsense): I thought I could talk to you about this but perhaps we shouldn’t be talking about this.

      me: Yes, we probably shouldn’t.

      I’ll call that a win.

      • Chafed

        Been there. Done that. Guaranteed she brings it up again.

    • cyto

      On the lockdown front… this dovetails with my impression of an incompetent and dysfunctional 4th estate.

      What was the point of the lockdown? Can anybody remember anything for 5 minutes?

      The entire point was “flatten the curve”. That was so the hospitals were not overwhelmed. That is all. Hospitals not overwhelmed = success. The same number of people would get sick – and as long as you didn’t overwhelm the healthcare system, the same number would die. The only positive result was “not overwhelmed hospitals” which would have cost lots more lives.

      Also, the numbers at the time were between 200k and 2 million dead Americans. Hell, the democrats were even wanting to charge Trump with crimes against humanity for killing 2 million americans at the time.

      Why do I bring all that up? Because being against people going back to work is not “in favor of science” or “keeping people alive” or any of that. The only thing “status quo” will do is make it take longer. There never was a version of this where a lower number of people got infected – only a version where more people survived because they were able to be treated. Or, more correctly a version where there were not excess deaths due to lack of treatment.

      Even in NYC where the inept government did everything wrong (by this set of standards), they didn’t get overwhelmed. So mission accomplished, even though those incompetent boobs didn’t require masks on the subway until Monday. Good lord, that’s incompetent.

      So every place that is shut down where the infection rate never reached significant numbers overdid it. And they are still just as vulnerable as they were before we started.

      So, ironically, the idiots in NYC are best positioned going forward.

      And anyone arguing that we cannot go to work is not being scientific. Or at least they are not following the “flatten the curve” story. Because by that goal, we are overdoing it. We should have flattened it less in order to get “herd immunity”.

      By my estimation, everyone is a 65 IQ danger to society EXCEPT the people who are talking about how to open up.

      • slumbrew

        On the subject: my mother also thought we have had over 800,000 deaths due to the WuFlu so far (off by 10-fold) and claimed ignorance that “flattening the curve” was the justification for all of this.

        As Trashy says, religious watcher of TV news.

        My “stop watching the news, I’m begging you” doesn’t get through.

      • cyto

        Interesting parallel fact – China had 800k deaths from the flu two years back… the same year we had 80k.

        And NOTHING ELSE HAPPENED! – to complete the meme.

      • Derpetologist

        I’ll try to answer your questions, rhetorical and otherwise.

        Here are some reasons for the great virus panic of 2020:

        -the media, team blue, and their allies still want to nail Trump for something, everything they’ve tried so far has failed, and they are running out of time to prevent his re-election

        -there are a lot of people for whom the lockdown is both an extra long vacation and a chance to make their enemies suffer

        -fear is exciting; this is the reason why every cult has some kind of apocalypse scenario which only the pure and chosen few will survive

        -the main reason in my view though is that people in countries like the today’s US are used to comfort and safety, so they are prone to panic at the drop of a hat

      • cyto

        Panic I get. The complete inability to remember something for more than 8 hours is what blows my mind.

      • Tejicano

        The only way I can figure this out is that it is probably easier to believe in the narrative if you willfully forget what it was a week ago. The current MSM in the US has come to the same level of purposeful deception as the Pravda of old which re-published photos with people’s images erased from earlier versions of the same photo after those people fell out of favor. I see numerous examples of stories which have been shifted to the “new facts” in the short term.

    • Tejicano

      I am so lucky that the one remaining relative (step-mom) from my family’s previous generations has dropped all political discussion in our (limited) conversations. She is a died-in-the-wool Democrat who spent her entire adult life working in non-profits inside the DC beltway. After moving away in retirement she has gradually found other things to occupy her minute-to-minute thoughts. Until recently every encounter – phone or e-mail was infused with some amount of screaming about anything not approved by the left.

      For about 2 years now most of that has drifted off the schedule. I hope this has become her general operating scheme and not just when she’s talking/writing to me. It would do her a world of good to ignore it all.

    • Nephilium

      Babies and puppies? I have standards man!

    • creech

      I had similar conversations with several people who voted for Trump in 2016 but won’t this time. If enough voters like this stray, then say hello to President Biden.

    • Viking1865

      “Oh, and despite your vivid memories of us bashing Bush 20 years ago, we were solid republican voters until this upcoming election.”

      My mother, who is….lets see, 66 years old, considers herself to be a moderate because she voted for Ford over Carter in 1976. It is the only time she’s ever voted Republican. She worked in newspapers for around 25 years, then went into academia.

      She would be a moderate in the 26th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, but she’s not a moderate in any real sense of the word.

    • KSuellington

      It constantly amazes me that the overwhelming majority of people seem to only want to have discussions of political or current events in which the other person largely agrees with everything they spout off about. I guess I’m in the minority of really enjoying it when I don’t agree with someone or they challenge me. You guys here are the only real libertarians that I interact with. All of my friends and family are either fairly lefty, or largely apolitical, with a handful of conservatives thrown in. Some have some libertarian positions, but none are what anyone here would consider solidly liberty based. Even when I was younger and more of a liberal (never progressive, I’ve always hated that shit with a passion) I always enjoyed having someone with different viewpoints. As long as they were respectful and argued in reasonably good faith, I was down to happily disagree. This is not most people though.

      • Chafed

        I agree KSuell. I like a good debate with someone knowledgeable. It’s increasingly difficult for me to find someone left of center who will agree to basic facts. There is just so much hand waiving when someone on their side does something otherwise objectionable.

      • cyto

        Yeah, the world has become like that Monty Python sketch about buying an argument.

        “That’s just contradiction! That’s not an argument!”

      • KSuellington

        It’s taken me a long time to figure out that I piss people off for doing so. And I usually avoid starting the political conversation, but if the other person does I will engage unless they give off the true believer vibes. You can’t argue with a mystic.

        But yes Chafed, the intellectual rigor of the left has declined precipitously over the last decades. I think that is what the basic fact gap is based upon.

    • AlmightyJB

      Clever

    • salted earth

      My life is very boring.

  32. Derpetologist

    today I learned

    ***
    When tested, drinking alcohol is required to have at least 400 radioactive decays per minute for each 750 ml. Explanation: The United States government has decided that alcohol for consumption must be made from “natural” materials, such as grains, grapes, or fruit. That rules out alcohol made from petroleum.
    ***

    But…petroleum is natural!

    Turns out the liquor lobby pushed for the rule to keep prices up.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/02/02/heres-why-every-glass-of-wine-you-drink-is-radioactive-yes-really/#2f39a04e7015

    • Count Potato

      “When tested, drinking alcohol is required to have at least 400 radioactive decays per minute for each 750 ml. ”

      Then why don’t I glow in the dark?

      • Derpetologist

        Think of money that could be saved on street lights by exploiting the bio-luminescence of hobos…

        Bioluminescent Hobos

        [adds to list of band names]

  33. cyto

    OK, just to confirm my suspicions, I checked Huffpo.

    Two stories about Flynn.

    1. “How the right-wing media helped pave the way to Michael Flynn’s freedom.”
    2. Obama says “rule of law” at risk in Michael Flynn case.

    Secondary note: they don’t use his rank or title.. Gotta propaganda properly, doncha know.

    No stories about how he was clearly railroaded as a part of a political ploy to use the power of the government to get Trump. Not even a mention of the margin notes that give the lie to the whole thing.

    Zero stories about Reade. Zero.

    We just had another confirmation about contemporaneous tellings of the tale, and a slew of unbelievable about faces by prominent dems on the whole “believe all women” and “credible allegation” front. Not a peep on Huffpo, formerly the feminist center of the universe.

    • cyto

      Oh, and DrudgeReport is clearly an oppo false flag kind of deal now. Holy crap, the anti-Trump, anti-conservative propaganda is thick on that thing now. I wonder how much Matt got paid for his baby. Because they took it out back and killed it with a shovel before burying it in a shallow grave.

      • slumbrew

        The selling for big bucks is fine, the keeping it on the down-low is more than a little sleazy.

    • slumbrew

      they don’t use his rank or title

      Eh, in terms of rank – he retired in 2014. He’s not LTG anymore.

      • cyto

        What’s the protocol on that?

        They call most retired Generals “General” from then on. Norman Schwarzkopf was General Norman Schwarzkopf for a long time. General Powell was General Colin Powell until he was Secretary of State. Everyone still talks about General Eisenhower, and that dude was the president.

        But nobody calls someone “corporal” after they leave the service. But our local town still calls the old mayor “Mr. Mayor”.

      • slumbrew

        Not to reopen _that_ particular can of worms, but I’m on the “titles are bullshit” side of things, so none of them should be “General” once they retire.

        Nobody is “Master Guns” for life although that would, admittedly, be cool.

      • Chafed

        I misread that as titties are bullshit. I was horrified.

        Now that I reread it. You are absolutely right.

      • Tejicano

        The only point I would argue for a retired military person in using his last/highest rank as a title after retirement is because they are subject to the UCMJ (military law) until death. It isn’t just that they once attained that rank but are legally bound to conduct themselves the same way as they did in uniform.

        That being said, I have only used mine a couple times in correspondence with people I served with and then only in an obviously jovial way.

      • slumbrew

        I was unaware of the UCMJ thing – does that apply to post-retirement activities, or just actions while active?

        If the former, have people been prosecuted under the UCMJ post-retirement or is it purely theoretical?

      • Tejicano

        I know of a retired Marine enlisted who, after being convicted of rape in Japan, was called back to active duty for the purpose of stripping him of his retirement. It really isn’t unusual for retirees who have done something beyond the pale to be called back to service and charged under the UCMJ.

      • Viking1865

        I don’t mind, personally, extending the courtesy to successful commanders of victorious wars.

        But the Chief Spook of the USAF or the Head Bean Counter of the Army, while vital tasks, are not really what I would consider things justifying a perpetual honor.

    • cyto

      Huffpo did see fit to have a front page article about AOC tweeting back at someone who criticized her for playing video games. So there was time for something else.

    • KSuellington

      Drudge is the Salon of news aggregators at this point.

      • cyto

        I’d go further. I’d say more like VOX.

    • Chafed

      Orange Man Bad? Climate deniers?

      • Derpetologist

        I have a hunch he wasn’t a College Republican.

      • Chafed

        I watched about half of it. He’s pretty funny but if I heard one more “you know” I would have thrown my phone out of the window.

    • MikeS

      Comedian being the only job he can get because nobody will hire him?

  34. MikeS

    Hello world.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Lesson 1 of Learn to Code?

      • MikeS

        Gotta start somewhere.

        L

      • Chafed

        E

    • Chafed

      Where have you been? Your absence got you a shout out in tomorrow’s GlibFit.

    • salted earth

      hey

  35. Derpetologist

    Meanwhile at Yale, a former university

    LGBT Studies at Yale: Joe Fischel, Asst. Professor of Women’s, Gender & Sexuality Studies

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYMF06qIJJE

    • LJW

      I’m curious is there a silent majority of reasonable people on Ivy League campuses or are they all full of derp?

      • Derpetologist

        Well, there were the guys that rewrote a section of Mein Kampf but strategically replaced the buzz words to make it about inter-sectional feminism. It got published. Another one that got published was about how dog humping was proof of rape culture.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvZNXRiAsn4

        I think there’s still a silent minority of reasonable people left.

    • Chafed

      Pffffft. Q has a Ph.D. in that.

  36. Chafed

    Where is Digby tonight?

    • salted earth

      I think he said earlier in the week that he would be unavailable tonight.
      Being a man of mystery he was rather vague about the circumstances.

  37. Derpetologist

    Glaciers, Gender, and Science: We Need More Stories of Ice.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4R5-y0Dc1s

    ***
    What happens when we view glacier science within their cultural and social contexts? How can we use a feminist lens to examine glaciers and people in context together, understand how glacier stories are produced, circulated, and gain credibility and authority across time and space? A feminist lens is crucial here because the majority of glaciological knowledge stems from information produced by men, about men, within existing masculine stories.
    ***

    comment gold:

    “In 1974 Voyager 1 was launched… I was a nerd, I knew everything to know about Voyager 1.”
    Except the year it was launched!
    Hahahaha.

    ***
    M JACKSON is a self-described glacier nerd, adventurer, and environmental educator pursuing a doctorate degree in geography and earth science at the University of Oregon as she researches glaciers and climate change in the Arctic. Jackson is a two-time U.S. Fulbright Scholar and received a 2015-2016 Fulbright-National Science Foundation Arctic Research grant to research how glacier change impacts communities on the south coast of the island in Höfn, Iceland.
    ***

    [anguished Zoidberg groan]

    • Chafed

      FFS. How is glacier study in any way tied to gender? Tell you what Lady. Go get naked and rub up on that glacier. Let us know if the men lied about it being cold.

    • Plinker762

      Does a glacier represent the mountain’s penis thrusting into the fertile valley below?

      • Chafed

        Is the glacier shaped like Florida?

      • Plinker762

        Hmm, better write up a grant proposal.

    • salted earth

      “What happens when we view glacier science within their cultural and social contexts?”

      You don’t get to call it science anymore.

  38. Gustave Lytton

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svenska_Akademiens_ordbok

    Svenska Akademiens ordbok (Swedish: [ˈsvɛ̂nːska akadɛˈmiːns ˈûːɖbuːk]), abbreviated SAOB, is a dictionary published by the Swedish Academy, with the official title Ordbok över svenska språket utgiven av Svenska Akademien. This dictionary is the Swedish counterpart of the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) or the Deutsches Wörterbuch (DWB).

    Work on the dictionary started in 1787 and the first volume was published in 1898 and as of 2019, when the latest volume appeared, work has progressed to the word VÄVNING.

    Almost there!

    • Tejicano

      Talk about a glacial pace!

  39. Digby something something Unclothed Intruder

    My apologies to the Zoom chatters that got unceremoniously dumped–my audio froze, and then my laptop suddenly dropped the chat. Trying to re-enter it just caused it to freeze.

    • CPRM

      You fucked up! I should pass out sleep anyway. My dickpics love to all.

  40. Festus

    I like this! https://youtu.be/HX7OINavc5k That singer resembles my first serious girlfriend, tatas and all. Now I go fap.

    • Gender Traitor

      “I feel so badly for all the people who are out of work and who are going to suffer, but if you’re dead, you can’t have a business,” Janet Dzubow, who opposes reopening, said.

      So who the hell is she? I’d love to see, along with any quote from someone supporting the lockdowns, a mention of what that person does for a living and whether or not their household has missed any paychecks since the start of the panic-demic.