Tuesday Morning Links

by | May 26, 2020 | Daily Links | 417 comments

At least they’re playing

They’re playing soccer in Germany. They’re playing baseball in South Korea. They’re even driving cars around in circles and doing some stupid shit in the process.  Baseball is looking at possible opening dates. And it looks like college football is on for the fall (with a few possible exceptions).  Sports is alive, albeit on life support.  Let’s just hope Cuomo isn’t put in charge of sports reopening and chooses it is best to put them collectively in nursing homes.

BLWAAACH!!!!

Jazzman and shoe polish aficionado Al Jolson was born on this day.  He shares it with wildly overrated actor (IMO) John Wayne, English actor Peter Cushing, the brilliant Miles Davis, dull as dirt sportscaster Brent Musburger, Fleetwood Mac’s Stevie Nicks, redneck extraordinaire Hank Williams Jr, astronaut Sally Ride, annoying dude Bobcat Goldthwait, musician and scarf-wearer Lenny Kravitz, actress Helena Bonham Carter, and vocal genius Lauryn Hill.

That wasn’t a bad list. Not great, but not awful.  Anyway, let me clean off the dust and get to…the links!

Thank God nobody was menstruating.

I think not wearing a mask is the least of this dude’s problems. Well, actually, that’s no problem at all in an outdoor environment. But they had to throw that in anyway.

It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out. I’m no fan of hate crime legislation, but they definitely need to dive in and investigate the investigators here and see what took them so long to bring charges.

I’ve been on some bad first dates, but nothing like this lady. The police should have respected the wishes of her prospective beau.

Nice outfit.

The retardation going on across the pond is breathtaking. Rather than demanding this dude be fired, who aren’t people up in arms about still being locked in their homes after well over a month? Brits gonna Brit, I suppose.

If this level of hypocrisy surprises you, then you need to wake up from your coma. This is how our elite political class have always acted. In this case, I’m not the least bit sympathetic. Fortunately, unlike the last link, people in the great state of Michigan Up North are up in arms about not being allowed to do something completely safe.

Chicagoans, defying the lockdown, return to normal over the holiday weekend. In fact, they went above and beyond.

Wherever there is a government grant program, expect there to be plenty of fraud to go along with it. I sincerely doubt they weren’t alone. They were just dumb enough to get caught.

They are coming…

I’ve lost count of which plague we’re on. But I know we’re getting close to the end.  I’m getting ready to start putting blood on my doorway every night just to be safe.

Here’s a great song from a brilliant album. And even if you don’t care for the genre, there’s plenty of songs to listen for in the sampling. Enjoy.

I want to thank everyone on here for their sympathy, thoughts, and prayers during the last 12 days for Banjos and her family. It’s been a challenging and depressing time for them as they grieve.  I also want to thank by fellow Glibs overlords for picking up the slack as we went through the death of her father. You guys taking care of the links through those days helped us to do what we needed to do a lot more than I can easily put into words.  Thank you so very much.

And with that, I wish you all a wonderful Tuesday and start to, or continuation of, the work week.

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417 Comments

  1. Animal

    We’re in Iowa this week. Stuff is opening back up. No piles of dead bodies in the streets yet.

    • Tonio

      Why leave bodies in the street when you can pile them up and stand on them? As predicted here and elsewhere, they are hand-wringing that the Wuhan Virus death toll (attributed, at least) topped 100,000.

    • PieInTheSky

      Well who cares about Iowa? None of the good important people live there

      • Tundra

        Wrong.

        Kinnath and RAH are both there and they are both very important.

        Iowa is extremely underrated.

  2. robc

    I saw Bobcat live once (circa 1991) and he killed it. He improvised most of his show.

    • robc

      Kevin Meaney opened for him, it was before he did Uncle Buck on TV, so my circa was about a bit too late. Lets go with Spring of 1990 instead (Uncle Buck debuted in Fall of 1990). He was very good that night, but every time I saw him after that (TV specials, etc) I realized he only had one set of jokes.

      They got old fast.

      • Festus

        Yeah, never got it.

  3. Tejicano

    “they are coming…”

    And right after that they die.

  4. PieInTheSky

    The retardation going on across the pond is breathtaking. Rather than demanding this dude be fired, who aren’t people up in arms about still being locked in their homes after well over a month? Brits gonna Brit, I suppose. – there was a comment going online the British are starting to learn it sucks to be ruled by the British.

    • Festus

      They’ve turned into the Scots, post-Jacobite.

  5. Festus

    Sloop-Man! Good to see you back! Condolences to the Little Woman. Hearts strong for our fellow Glibs!

    • juris imprudent

      Seconding all of the above. You must be softening up in your old age that you can commiserate with those folks up north.

      • Festus

        I’m a smart-ass but tissue soft. I can’t help myself.

      • juris imprudent

        Oh, I was referring to Sloop and Michigan.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      The understanding side of me says they’re just stupid. The rational side of me says they’re really that mendacious.

      • Tonio

        What bothers me is that the general public has not turned against him.

      • Agent Cooper

        If Ranking Roger were alive, he’d be pissed!

    • Hyperion

      At least he wasn’t wearing blackface this time.

    • Idle Hands

      They know the masks are a placebo to placate the weak minded sheeple demanding them so they are going to insist on it to get things back to normal. That’s been the case for weeks it’s an effort to convince the biggest pussies in our society the water is warm. It’s embarrassing,

  6. Rebel Scum

    Let’s just hope Cuomo isn’t put in charge of sports reopening and chooses it is best to put them collectively in nursing homes.

    And if he did it would be the fault of the Republican administration. Of course, I mention the political party of the current president to depoliticize it, not to politicize it.

    • Mojeaux

      Nonrefundable fee is nonrefundable. News at 11.

      • PieInTheSky

        yes but a partial refund can be a good will gesture. And mocking the death and inventing a suicide is a bit gauche

      • Mojeaux

        My attention span and site loading speed are such that I didn’t read the whole thing. I stopped at what I was looking for, which was the word “non-refundable.”

        Saw something about a bad review and a defamation suit.

      • Timeloose

        The Non-Refundables was the name of a friends punk band.

    • DrOtto

      Both parties are asshole.

      • R C Dean

        Yeah, squabbling over money is a bad look for the dude. Don’t you have bigger things to worry about.

        Whoever runs the company seems to have completely lost their fucking mind, though.

      • The Sleeper

        Disagree. Bad business is bad business, and reading the article:
        “Even before the incident, many photographers took to an online platform to share their bad experiences while working for the company. Many said they struggled to receive payment while others did not get paid at all. One user said, “I eventually got paid… but only after emailing twice a day and threatening legal action.”

        The man behind the company appears to be Jessie J. Clark and this isn’t his first time in a situation like this. In 2013, Clark who was already accused of scamming over 92 couples received criminal and civil charges.”

        Some people just have to go.

      • Agent Cooper

        But buyers for those types of services should do their homework.

      • The Sleeper

        Doing your homework in this case is difficult when your subject uses multiple names and several different business names, probably to prevent him from a constant stream of negative-reviews.

    • Mojeaux

      Methinks I should’ve RTFA.

  7. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloopy!

    Glad to have you back.

    The NHL is trying to cobble together some bullshit 24-team finish to the season. From what I’ve read it seems fucking retarded. Testing the players every damn day, living in a quarantine bubble for weeks or months at a time. Give it a rest, boys. The virus panic beat you.

    Our governor is starting to make noises about not lifting restrictions until there is a vaccine. I don’t see it happening, but I’ve given up trying to make predictions. So over this.

    The Beasties, however, never fail to bring a smile.

    All my best to you, Banjos and the fam. Have a great day!

    • Nephilium

      Still waiting to see if there’s going to be baseball this year. Although considering the league wide DH part of the agreement, I’m guessing there’s quite a few people who don’t want that to happen.

      • robc

        I worry that it wont go away next year.

        For 2020, sure fine, but the NL needs to dump it before 2021.

      • invisible finger

        The players union wants it in, so it’s here forever. The only possible way the union relents is if the owners agree to a two-team expansion by a certain year. That’s going to be a hard sell with so many minor league teams having zero cash flow and several colleges dropping their baseball programs over the last couple months.

        The whole professional baseball system needs to be blown up. I blame collective bargaining – it essentially forces everything to be centrally planned. It wouldn’t be as much of a problem if the union and teams would agree to a max number of professional contracts (60, plus some long-term-injury slots) a la the NHL. This would make practically everything below the AAA level independent. Which opens up opportunity for guys like Scott Boras to become independent team operators with higher-level talent with contracts that could be sold to MLB clubs. But I don’t think the union wants anything to do with that, and the owners probably don’t want agents owning independent teams (although I don’t see that being a long-term problem).

        The one encouraging sign is that there are a few high-school and college players now willing to consider foreign leagues for a few years to avoid the current collectively-bargained limitations.

      • robc

        You first posted in it, so nevermind.

    • Pope Jimbo

      What is crazy is that sports teams should be very, very low on people in danger of dying from the CV.

      I could maybe see worrying about big crowds, but the teams/players? They have a 0% chance of croaking even if they get infected. Too bad the PR flacks for the leagues don’t man up and tell the Karens to shut the fuck up.

      • Fourscore

        Free tickets for the post 65ers, solve 2 problems at once

      • Pope Jimbo

        Trump is the first president to really do something about SS’s insolvency problem.

    • Urthona

      Fine by me. Better than no hockey.

      • Rhywun

        IKR?

  8. Tejicano

    “I think not wearing a mask is the least of this dude’s problems. ”

    Can we give this guy an honorary Darwin award if he agrees to the vasectomy?

  9. Rebel Scum

    Thank God nobody was menstruating.

    That does attract bears.

  10. banginglc1

    GT, I saw in the last thread that you need to do payroll today. Don’t forget the 60 hours I worked last week. 🙂

  11. Festus

    Stevie Nicks. Good God she was gorgeous for a hot minute. I think the cocaine stopped her from eating the rest of the band like Anne Wilson did.

  12. PieInTheSky

    Polina Knoroz | Saint Petersburg 2020

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXihTOA5Q4k

    there is something hot about a chick who can work a pole, I just can’t put my finger on it

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I just can’t put my finger on it

      But you’d like to…

      • PieInTheSky

        Meh – I disagree

      • Evan from Evansville

        How can you be more wrong than this?

        I…cannot comprehend.

    • Festus

      Every time on my phone. The Norwegian and Latvian ones are the most interesting, thus far. Italy is a close third… Fucking Google.

      • Festus

        The “Pole-Fitness” Academy has opened again. Every night at 7:45 I get to slow go as I drive past. Young milfs in yoga pants!

      • Nephilium

        Gyms were able to start opening last week, the one I went to was going through the opening process today. They’re sending out private links to sign up for classes, and limiting class size to 20 riders. I was planning on suspending my membership for the summer, but will probably keep it to help them make it through the summer. For reference, the previous class sizes were 40-50 seats, most of the classes I attended had 30-some seats occupied.

    • BakedPenguin

      I’d like to think of a dirty pun, but my Russian is lacking. (As is my English)

  13. UnCivilServant

    Does anyone know a good source to check for how long you can reasonably store certain materials? Like say, pressurized oxygen, pressurized acetelyne, liquid gasoline, etc?

    • PieInTheSky

      Government approved best before date or actual storage time?

      • Incentives Matter

        I’ve tried to “over-winter” gasoline for small engines, and discovered that it would no longer support internal combustion the next spring, so my rule of thumb is around six months. That’s when I discovered the joys of fuel stabilizer.

        I don’t know of any official sources either.

      • UnCivilServant

        What about oxy-acetylene tanks?

      • Timeloose

        The pressurized gasses are good for a very long time.

      • Timeloose

        Decades or more if there is not any significant contamination sources. Oxygen might have some issues before acetylene. The quality or purity might decrease over time, but for industrial use like welding it would have no issues.

      • Festus

        Older engines seem to take it better. The new ones die. A few squirts of carb cleaner get them back up top speed. I’ve got a roto-tiller that must be at least three decades old and he starts first pull every time. Dude I work with drove his classic car to work last night. 1969 Buick “Wildcat”. I’m not really a car guy but I’d never heard of that make and model before. I just about came in my khakis when he fired it up. Two owners, him and his Dad.

      • banginglc1

        My Grandfather owned a Wildcat (before I was born). I’ve heard he always described it as a “shit and get” car. I use that term as often as possible now.

      • UnCivilServant

        What does that term supposedly mean?

      • Festus

        Fast.

      • banginglc1

        *Phrase not term, my apologies.

        And it is to describe what happens when you hit the gas and floor it.

      • Incentives Matter

        My Dad had a ’67 Wildcat 2-door convertible in navy blue (soft-top was white). Hated the power steering in it — sloppy as Hell. Couldn’t believe how “tight” steering felt when I tried driving a Japanese car just a few years later. Rack-and-pinion was a revelation to me.

      • DrOtto

        I want a ’69 Wildcat bad. Buick basically tightened up the LeSabre coupe, then threw a 435 “wildcat” engine in it, named, not for cubic inches, but torque output.

      • CatchTheCarp

        Back in the the day a friend had ’66 Wildcat coupe with a professionally built 425 that was a low end torque monster. One day he pulled up to my house in it after having ore work done on the engine and claimed he could lift the front wheels. I bet him $20 he couldn’t. On the attempt the rear axle broke, pretty certain I would have been out $20 otherwise. Those old Buicks were ‘lead sleds’ but if you had enough money you could make them fast.

      • robc

        That was the first car my parents owned that I remember. Not sure of the year. I was born in 1969, so that was close.

        They next got a ’77 Buick Electra, which I drove in High School.

      • DrOtto

        My dad also bought a ’77 Electra. Black with red velour interior and spoke hub…er wheel covers. Pretty sure that’s where I got my love of luxury cars, that interior was comfortable. It had the Olds 403, which was big for the times.

      • KSuellington

        My second ever car after my first piece of crap Malibu died after six months was a 1966 Buick Skylark. It had the Wildcat 375 engine in it. It was fast. I did things in that car that should have killed me, but I never got in an accident. Sold it after a couple years as I wanted a pickup for camping. Dude from the ghetto bought it and within a week it was stolen and wrecked. Loved that car.

      • Tejicano

        Gasoline has a benzine additive to help it start an engine and a lot of that additive will evaporate over a few months. The engine can run fine without the benzine but starting is the problem.

      • UnCivilServant

        What year was that added to the formulation?

        Is there a concise history of gasoline additives somewhere we can reference?

      • Tejicano

        I’m pretty sure that was from the beginning of internal combustion engines. I heard this from a chemical engineer I used to work with. IIRC – he said you could keep the benzine additive in a small sealed container and add it when you wanted to use the gasoline.

        He brought this topic up during a discussion about future dystopian movies like Mad Max – that without a source for the additive – or some other more complicated method to get an engine to start without it – you wouldn’t have all those vehicles running around.

      • UnCivilServant

        Then I have to ask what’s the difference between starting state and running state where the benzene stops being necessary?

      • kbolino

        I am neither a chemical nor mechanical engineer, so take it for what it’s worth, but my understanding is that benzene is one of many additives that increase octane rating and reduce knock. It competed with tetraethyl lead as the primary additive for that purpose until lead was banned in fuel in the 1970s.

        Though, calling it an additive is a bit of a funny thing. Benzene is present in crude oil and raw distillates like gasoline. It is actually removed from modern gasoline (because it’s more useful for other things, like making plastic) during refining and then re-added later on at a lesser concentration if the fuel blend calls for it.

      • Bobarian LMD

        “difference between starting state and running state”

        A hot chamber.

        The benzine is more volatile at room temp than pure gasoline. Additives like benzine, butane, ethanol et.al. are the differnces in winter vs summer blends and affect vapor pressure and octane ratings.

      • BakedPenguin

        Note: I don’t know what gasoline you’re talking about, but keep in mind most of it has corn ethanol included. I suspect (but cannot state conclusively) that pure gasoline will keep better.

      • UnCivilServant

        This would be mid 20th century, potentially leaded gas, not modern crap.

      • banginglc1

        And if you live anywhere there is a Country Mark station, they still sell real gas without the dumb corn in it. It’s amazing that the very farmers around here that survive by selling corn to make into fuel don’t want to fill up their equipment with that fuel.

      • UnCivilServant

        The farmers sell corn. If it’s misused down the line, its only their fault when they advocate mandates.

        I fully understand not wanting to use corned gas.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        How did Iowa survive before the ethanol boondoggle? That was GWB’s doing, no?

      • invisible finger

        The ethanol mandates began in the 20th century, so before GWB. Just blame Nixon for the EPA.

      • kbolino

        Before too long, it may become practically impossible to get gasoline that isn’t mixed with ethanol that has a reasonable octane rating. The EPA keeps banning or restricting everything else that increase octane rating.

      • UnCivilServant

        Clearly the answer is to ignore the EPA, and shoot shovel and shut up when their agents show their faces.

      • kbolino

        I think enough EPA agents buried in the same place would count as a superfund site.

    • Pope Jimbo

      As long as you drill a few airholes in your trunk, UCS, your girl friend should be fine.

  14. Rebel Scum

    Justice Department launching investigation into Ahmaud Arbery’s death as a hate crime

    I’m skeptical of this entire situation. And thought-crime should not be a thing in our legal system.

    • leon

      You can’t chase someone down and murder them.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        End of discussion

      • invisible finger

        Unless you have a badge.

      • Rhywun

        No, but it doesn’t become international news without the mind-reading aspect.

      • Atanarjuat

        Right. The point is to piss people off on both sides, and it’s succeeding admirably.

      • Rebel Scum

        You can’t run at someone and grab their weapon and expect everything to be roses. *Not* the end of discussion because the discussion must continue as new info is available.

        There is more nuance here that everyone seems to be missing.

      • leon

        By bringing the shotgun into the equation the killers brought lethal Force in. The fact that the victim struggled does not paint him as less of a victim. They initiated lethal force, there was a struggle and he died. That was murder.

      • Rebel Scum

        Who initiated contact with who? (hint: the ‘victim’ ran at the guys in the truck, which was not mobile at the time, this is a detail that is obviously up for further discussion, but it is an important detail nonetheless.) I have refrained from giving an opinion on this for some time because it seems that everyone has incorrectly bought the “they chased him down and shot him” narrative that, to me, does not hold up to scrutiny. The simple presence of a weapon does not equal murder.

        And they recently arrested the guy that took the initial video of the event and charged him with murder. Does that seem ok? Unless I am missing something, it seems wrong.

      • bacon-magic

        If the victim was posing a physical threat it might be a different story. These two idiots chased him down and threatened him with a gun. I’m not going to scream “cold-blooded murder” but it does appear they initiated it and should come up on charges. Let’s see how it plays out in the courts but I think they’re guilty of manslaughter.

      • Rebel Scum

        threatened him with a gun.

        Carrying a gun is not ‘threatening’.

      • bacon-magic

        Pointing it at someone is. Not to mention chasing him down. They pursued him with the intent of Mayberry citizen arresting and will pay the price for their mistake. There will be no winners on either side in this case.

      • Rebel Scum

        Not to mention chasing him down.

        They were in pursuit in an attempt to make a citizens arrest, which unfortunately went badly. They had already called the police. You don’t set out to murder someone after calling the police and telling them you are tailing someone. And Aubrey did run at them, not vice versa. Why he did that is a question that will hopefully be answered in the future. As things stand, I simply cannot buy the “racist murders ran him down and lynch him” narrative.

      • Rebel Scum

        Pointing it at someone is.

        But did they?

        I will probably leave this one alone for now. There are questions and information that are still outstanding. And, as stated, I do not buy the narrative as is.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Racism doesn’t have anything to do with it. This is about initiation of force.

      • bacon-magic

        I did not bring up race and it’s not relevant imo. Maybe in the two goons’ heads and the victim’s but I’m not a mind reader.

      • Rebel Scum

        But did they initiate force?

        The last thing I’ll say is that this seems like a scenario where it seems probable that all parties involved made poor decisions resulting in an unfortunate end. Time will tell.

      • Incentives Matter

        “Carrying” versus “brandishing” seems to be one of those things that’s in the eye of the beholder.

      • Viking1865

        If you stand in a public road way, holding a weapon, and you issue a challenge or a direction to another person traveling down that road way, you’re issuing that challenge or direction with the backing of lethal force. No matter how politely it’s phrased.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        If you draw your weapon before the other is openly threatening or hurting someone, you’re responsible.

        The father was out of his truck with shotgun in hand on public property. That’s initiation just as much as if I decide to draw on a guy walking thru a parking lot.

      • Hyperion

        Well, Wyatt Earp there and his son are a couple of assholes for sure, so there has to be charges here. I don’t know if it’s murder until we know the rest of the story.

        For some reason, I’m always doubting the medias narrative until there is no further doubt that what they are saying is 100% accurate.

        I was once trespassing accidentally on someone’s property. I was just taking a walk and got a little lost, so while I thought I was still on my neighbors property, I had accidentally wandered onto someone else’s property and next thing I know there’s some dude coming at me with a shotgun. I decided to not take a run at him. He says ‘who the hell are you and what are you doing? This is private property! I said ‘Whoa man, I’m sorry, I was just walking and I thought I was on []’s property. So it turned out OK since I didn’t decide to just take a run at him. He still threatened to have me arrested for trespassing, but decided not too I suppose, since I didn’t get a visit from the cops.

      • Fourscore

        “You can’t chase…”

        Avoid Chicago. Something like 85% of the murders are never solved. Obviously you can chase (or not chase) someone down and murder them.

      • leon

        True. I’m mixing up “Can’t” and “Shouldn’t”

    • EvilSheldon

      As a practical matter, anyone attempting to make a citizen’s arrest can safely be assumed to be in the wrong.

  15. Drake

    I’ve been giving that whole Ahmaud Arbery story a wide berth. I’ll bet that it ends up another Trayvon Martin case, nobody in the story is innocent, and it wasn’t the story the media is trying to sell.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      There is video of two guys gunning down a dude that is running away from them.

      • Drake

        Yep – “Jogging” 15 miles from home in work boots in a neighborhood that had a bunch of robberies – no good guys in the story.

      • juris imprudent

        Read that the only recent burglary was a handgun stolen from the truck of one of the shooters (the son).

      • EvilSheldon

        One of the shooters kept a gun in his truck? And it got stolen? Now that’s a surprise right there…

      • PieInTheSky

        Well was he a threat for the guys who shot him or just running away? Otherwise if he was running a way on the street I have difficulty seeing a private citizen just shooting being justified.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        He could be the scumbag that was breaking in and stealing from people, that still doesn’t allow you to randomly shoot someone who is trying to avoid you. Particularly if you don’t even know if the guy you shot is the guy you’re looking for. If the two guys were cops who shot someone running away from them, you’d have a different take.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        This

        Arbery was not in the process of committing a crime, threatening anyone, nor is he responsible for the escalation because the men were pursuing him with drawn weapons. He had the right to defend himself from men who were coming at him on a public road. The choice to try to disarm the shooter was stupid but doesn’t absolve the guy who shot him.

        This isn’t the Trayvon case where Zimmerman drew his weapon after he was getting his head bashed in.

    • Drake

      Meanwhile – the Breonna Taylor was quickly swept under the rug. Cops killed her when they did a no-knock search on the wrong house. They are still trying to prosecute her boyfriend for shooting one of the home invaders.

      • juris imprudent

        Properly accredited king’s men. Makes all the difference.

      • Chafed

        It’s national news. There is a federal investigation and discussion of federal legislation to disallow no knock raids.

      • R C Dean

        discussion of federal legislation to disallow no knock raids

        More kabuki. Nothing will be done.

    • Atanarjuat

      It is the next Trayvon. There’s a reason that clear cut cases like Kathryn Johnston don’t get the same press. That’s why I’m giving it a wide berth too.

      • Hyperion

        “That’s why I’m giving it a wide berth too.”

        Same here. Main reason being that the media have a narrative to push and that rarely turns out to be the whole truth.

    • Idle Hands

      This is ridiculous. Trayvon martin was a stand your ground case without video in which Zimmerman was getting his ass beat, these hicks were same thing but with video and knowingly engaged this guy because they were assholes. Zimmerman was an asshole wannabe too but there is no video and the confrontation according to him was much different. These guys came at him guns drawn and attempeted to perform a kidnapping, Zimmerman by his account was just seeing what the kid was up to and ended up getting his ass kicked.

  16. Gdragon

    “Egg Man” is my favourite sloopy, you’re the best!

    “Yo, they just got my little cousin esé!”

  17. "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

    https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/1260663220756512768

    Justin Amash
    @justinamash
    Epidemiologists cannot know the specific actions of each individual in a community. This kind of knowledge is not knowable to any scientist. The top mistake being made by state governments is their imposing uniform rules that limit the use of local knowledge to fight the virus.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      Amash says something libertarian in the most benign and generalized manner and his followers lose their minds. This thread is a good summation of why Amash will not be back in Congress.

      • PieInTheSky

        Jesus the comments are worse than I though. I am starting to believe more and more that most leftists are not just misguided but scumbags

      • juris imprudent

        You can only be misguided for so long.

      • Hyperion

        It’s a cult. They’re true bleevers. Even if you can show them clear unquestionable evidence that they are wrong about something, instead of realizing they were wrong and moving on, they’ll double down on being wrong.

      • Mojeaux

        Agreed.

        That many people can’t possibly all be looking at the long game, chuckling and twirling their mustaches, plotting for the downfall of capitalism.

        They’re zealots and blindly believe, caught up in the mass hysteria of a 24/7 tent revival.

      • Hyperion

        “caught up in the mass hysteria of a 24/7 tent revival.”

        Yep, if only the believe hard enough, scream at the sky loud enough, surely bad orange man will disappear and utopia will appear, just like during the Obama admin. Anyone remember the utopia? Yeah, me neither. Like I told one sad disheartened prog about 6 months into the Trump admin ‘It’s almost like nothing changed’.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        And Amash offers the most polite way of saying “central planning does not work” and is more then differential to the “I’m a scared” people. This just shows that Amash’s ‘curious’ positions on the mentally challenged brand of John Bircherism and impeachment didn’t gain him supporters, instead it cost him supporters.

        The white liberals only like Amash when he’s spouting their faith.

      • PieInTheSky

        Most of the answers seem to be central planning totally works because science.

      • Hyperion

        97% of scientists agree.

      • Q Continuum

        White liberals only ever like anyone spouting their faith.

        They’re like Jihadis.

      • Hyperion

        Everyone with half a brain knows that central planning and socialism are complete failures. This has been proven every time it’s been tried, but no matter how disastrous the results, they will just continue on, it’s going to work this time, we have the right people! That wasn’t real socialism! It’s never been tried!

    • bacon-magic

      Amash will be forgotten within 2 years. Good.

  18. PieInTheSky

    Omphalophobia (from the Greek word omphalo, meaning “navel”, and phobos, “fear”) is the fear of Belly Buttons. Some people looking at belly buttons look unpleasant to them. Sufferers would not touch their belly buttons, or even the whole belly at all.

  19. Rebel Scum

    A Utah man accused of choking and stabbing a woman after meeting her on the popular dating app Tinder asked police to shoot him after reporting the killing, according to court documents.

    A strange way to go about suicide-by-cop. Also, they should have shot the asshole.

    • leon

      That happened in the town next to where I grew up. Rival high school and all that.

    • Atanarjuat

      Ladies, if you’re recovering from a snake bite caused by your husband’s blatant murder attempt, don’t continue to sleep in the same room with him, especially if he has ordered a second venomous snake online.

      • banginglc1

        I guess you’re not the kinky type.

    • EvilSheldon

      I know I’m a horrible person for saying so, but I kinda feel bad for the snake.

  20. PieInTheSky

    YouTube has deleted every comment I ever made about the Wumao (五毛), an internet propaganda division of the Chinese Communist Party. Who at Google decided to censor American comments on American videos hosted in America by an American platform that is already banned in China?

    https://twitter.com/PalmerLuckey/status/1265077232176775168

    • Hyperion

      “Wumao”

      I am so stealing that.

    • Hyperion

      Musk and Thiel should team up and create new media platforms to compete against these assholes. I just don’t get why it hasn’t already happened.

      • The Sleeper

        Because it took a long time for Facebook to figure out how to make money.

  21. Atanarjuat

    There was some discussion about the death rate and the denominator problem the other day. Let’s not forget, the numerator is probably wrong or even a lie as well. I remember hearing doctors say they were pressured to put Covid-19 on the death certificates with no test.

    • robc

      The numerator is wrong in both directions. How many covid deaths were missed in Dec and Jan? And Feb, for that matter?

      I have no faith in either the numerator or the denominator. At least I know which direction the denominator is wrong.

      • Bobarian LMD

        The denominator is wrong in an exponentially larger value, though.

    • Rhywun

      New York openly states that thousands of victims they added to the score were never tested.

      • mrfamous

        At one point it was estimated at one-third of the total deaths.

    • PieInTheSky

      I am dubious on Ridley. Born in the purple and fucked up royally in the real world as a bank chairman

      • BakedPenguin

        But she defeated the Alien!

      • Bobarian LMD

        Like 4 times!

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      What can’t you Jews do?

      • Nephilium

        Find the messiah?

      • robc

        At least 12 did.

    • leon

      Those Chinese ambassadors to France know their crowd they have to play to.

  22. bacon-magic

    Chicagoans, defying the lockdown, return to normal over the holiday weekend. In fact, they went above and beyond.

    10 more Commie cough deaths marked down on the list.

    • Hyperion

      At least gun violence is down.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      He’s a degenerate piece of shit. It never ends with this degenerate piece of shit.

      /woodchipper voice.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        By the way, I’m in Quebec so this may not happen to us because labour laws are (mostly) a provincial jurisdiction. 10 paid sick days is VERY expensive for small businesses.

      • PieInTheSky

        My understanding was that this was supposed to be put in place centrally for all provinces.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      There you go…they’re going to milk this to no end.

      “Canada’s top doctor repeated her assertion Monday that a second wave of the virus could be worse than the first and encouraged public health officials to build up capacity for testing, hospital beds and personal protective equipment in order to prepare.

      “I think you can never be overly prepared and we have to just keep going with some of these capacity developments and that goes for lab testing as well,” said Dr. Theresa Tam, Canada’s chief public health officer during a press conference Monday.”

      This twat was compromised the second she said closing air travel was ‘racist’ way back in March. The cynicism and arrogance of these incompetent assholes is stupendous and appalling.

      • Hyperion

        “a second wave of the virus could be worse than the first”

        Well, the Spanish Flu was, so that proves that it will be.

      • R C Dean

        I love the way the Branch Covidians flip-flop between “ITS NOT THE FLU, TRUMPTARD” and “OMG, its just like the Spanish Flu”.

  23. Rebel Scum

    “Well our office personnel had explained this to the man and he replied, ‘I am the husband to the governor, will this make a difference?’ ”

    Yes, we dislike your wife more now.

    • leon

      What’s the point of prestige and honor of an office, when you can’t use it for personal benefits

      • Hyperion

        When she’s VP, she’s going to fix that.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      So he’s a dumbass just like his wife.

    • Pope Jimbo

      I’m actually sort of surprised that she didn’t make some poor Guard unit get her boat out of storage for her. Call it “training”.

      That and I could see her locking down the town where she’s got her cabin to keep the riff raff around. Why no pics of her and her family on the beach like that fat bastard Christie?

  24. Mojeaux

    Banjos, again, condolences. I’m so sorry.

    • BakedPenguin

      Wait, for what?

      • BakedPenguin

        Ooh. I passed over the last paragraph. I lost my mom two years ago, so sympathies from someone who understands.

      • bacon-magic

        Dave’s not here man. *tokes another

  25. bacon-magic

    Was there anything posted here about the Libertarian Social Signalling and Outreach Candidate that will go nowhere Jo-Jo?

    • Tundra

      She seems like a decent person, but won’t win hearts and minds.

      What the fuck happened to Jacob?

      The LP is going nowhere (so, business as usual).

      • bacon-magic

        It’s like they want to lose. They might have gotten a few more votes in 2016 with her instead of GayJay and his loyal to Hillary sidekick Mild Bill.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        There were A LOT of shenanigans leading up to the convention. Hornberger placed first in initial voting, but as they whittled down candidates the “pragmatic caucus” when all in on propping up anyone but Hornberger (too anti-war for the neocon adjacent “pragmatic caucus”).

        There were some hilarious attempts right at the beginning to ensure Hornberger didn’t win, including Sarwark asking the MI delegation to see if Amash would accept the nomination by unanimous consent. That motion failed. Then after the first round of voting when Hornberger placed first, Sarwark offered a motion to make him the nominee by unanimous consent. That also failed.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I don’t understand the last sentence. Who’s the “him” in Then after the first round of voting when Hornberger placed first, Sarwark offered a motion to make him the nominee by unanimous consent.

        Is “him” Amash or Hornberger?

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Sarwark offered himself as the nominee

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Still an asshole for accepting at that point.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        What an asshole.

      • leon

        All the shenannigans makes it clear that the rumors about the LNC trying to sabotage things to keep the mises caucus out are true. I went to the state convention (not a national party member) and unfortunately it looks like the “Big wigs” in the state are a bunch of prags. We did get one Jacob guy tho.

      • Overt

        Can you give a refresher on the different factions? I haven’t seen them described since the last time there was an election.

      • leon

        Really there are two factions. The Radicals and the Pragmatists (there’s the 3rd Mises Caucus, which is rather large, but they and the radicals are quite similar.) The Radicals are about being radical and staunchly principled, and push to have a more radical platform. They will often be calling for seeping abolishment of agencies, etc. Often if someone is accused of being a “purist” they are a radical. The Pragmatists are more about incremental reform, and gaining political power. If someone is accused of selling out for cocktail parties with their lefty friends, they are probably a pragmatist.

        / end stereotypes.

        The thing is that Nick Sarwak and a few members of the National Commite were intentionally trying to sabotage and fuck around with the convention to ensure the misses caucus doesn’t gain power in the party. However this blatant politiking pissed of quite a few pragmatists, and why you saw a rejection of Sarwaks agenda over the weekend.

      • Pope Jimbo

        The problem with the LP is that they actually sort of believe in what they are preaching. How do you run a successful campaign if you aren’t going to reward your cronies with gobs of filthy govt lucre?

        “Well sure, you can be head of the Dept of Education for a donation of $500M, but you realize we are going to abolish that dept right?”

      • robc

        I think the current head of the DoE is fine with that.

      • robc

        Of all of Trump’s cabinet, she is the one I would keep around.

    • leon

      I was disappointed at first, but giving a look at some things, I’m actually pleasently pleased with the ticket.

      1. Jo is a libertarian, much more so than GJ.
      2. When GJ and Weld got the ticket Reason pronounced how this clearly was a resounding loss for the radical wing of the Party and the future direction of the party. If so then Jo and Spike show a renunciation of that path and a reconciliation of the two halves. It shows that the radicals hold more power now than they did.
      3. Sarwak bitched out and refuses to chair the in person convention.

      • leon

        Furthermore, needles to say: this isn’t 2016. The LP really blew it, and this is not the “historical opportunity” that they had in 2016. I do not expect Jo to do as well as GJ. Not because she’s worse candidate (she’s far better), but after 4 years the lines are pretty starkly drawn. Either you are for Trump or against him. This year is not going to be a good year for 3rd parties. However I think she can do a better job at building real growth rather than what GJ brought.

      • bacon-magic

        ^

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Agreed. Jo and Spike winning is really a Pyrrhic victory for Sarwark and the Kochatarians. The Mises Caucus didn’t get their preferred candidate, but it was close. And Spike was Hornberger’s preferred VP anyways.

        Don’t expect TOS to be writing about the LP ticket this year.

      • robc

        Wasn’t Spike supporting Vermin Supreme?

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Both Vermin and Hornberger picked Spike as their VPs, from what I saw. He’s a hilarious guy, from what I can tell.

    • Suthenboy

      Why are y’all wasting so many pixels? Pixels are a terrible thing to waste.

      • leon

        Because it’s fun, and more enjoyable than hoping some right-wing socialist will stumble into doing the right thing against all his instincts.

    • Hyperion

      The LP is a sick joke. I thew away my card years ago.

  26. Rebel Scum

    Chicago’s deadliest Memorial Day weekend since 2015: 10 shot dead, 38 wounded

    But how many of these are “hate-crimes” that warrant national attention?

    • Incentives Matter

      Mercy-killings to protect the victims from the horrors of COVID-19.

      They’ll be recorded as coronavirus deaths, natch.

  27. Rebel Scum

    Millions of cicadas to emerge after living underground for 17 years

    More noise to prevent me from sleeping.

  28. Atanarjuat

    I’m no fan of unnecessary cruelty to animals, but it seems like no one, including my Aspy libertarian self is capable of thinking logically on the matter. For instance, some local zookeeper was put in prison for feeding unwanted puppies to the tigers. Yet rats are free to snakes openly. And locking the bear in a cage is far crueler than a creature 40% the weight and 20% as strong and 2000% as drunk wrestling with it.

    Locking the previously mentioned tigers in a cage was even worse. They were pacing around a chain link enclosure smaller than my home.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      Pet animals are seen differently from wild animals, which are seen differently from livestock. Rationally, it’s a distinction without a difference. The rat doesn’t want to be eaten any more than the puppy does.

      That said, I think Americans have a very unhealthy view of pet animals that fuels some of the disproportionate outrage whenever a pet animal (whether or not the specific animal in question was ever a pet) is harmed. If you want to get me ranting, use the phrase “furbaby” unironically. I will start throwing things.

      • Rebel Scum

        I’ve noticed people are often more upset when a dog gets killed than when a person gets killed.

      • Mojeaux

        Try writing a romance where an animal gets killed. You will be badly rated from here to eternity.

        *side-eyes sequel to Cods & Cuntes*

      • Mojeaux

        I will sit on that bench with you.

      • banginglc1

        While I agree with your overall point. We do have to remember that cats and especially dogs have had a more symbiotic relationship with humans for a long time. So it does make sense that we would view them differently than a rat or cow. We’re much more emotionally invested with them than other animals.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        Speaking of pets, I take it your hand is OK?

    • R C Dean

      no one, including my Aspy libertarian self is capable of thinking logically on the matter.

      Empathy is not rational.

      As noted, we have different experiences/”relationships” with different kinds of animals. We are in a pack or pride with dogs and cats. We are in a very utilitarian relationship with livestock. Wild animals, well, it varies a lot by the amount of direct experience you have with them.

  29. robc

    I voted for Jo in 1996, I can vote for her agaiin.

    • robc

      Although the Clemson thing is off-putting. But I am in-state with her, so that is neat (not as cool as living cross-town from Rand Paul, although I never ran into him out anywhere).

      • leon

        Rand Paul, although I never ran into him out anywhere).

        My understanding is that it was pretty easy to catch him mowing his lawn.

      • robc

        It was a gated community, so not for me.

    • PieInTheSky

      She was clearly terrified. – so fuckin what?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        She’s a fucking loon and he’s a nudgy do-gooder.

        She clearly said “I’m going to tell them here’s an African-American threatening my life”, which was clearly untrue.

        If he were threatening her life, she’d be headed the other way instead of approaching him with phone in hand and dragging the near-choking dog by the collar.

        In other words, they’re both asshole New Yorkers.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Besides which, “I’m going to tell them here’s an African-American threatening my life” is a racially charged threat, even to my jaded ears.

      • RAHeinlein

        She was terrified. She called the cops. Now she’s a racist who will likely lose her job – that’s fuckin what.

      • PieInTheSky

        She called the cops – with false claims of a black man threatening her. He told her not to be come near him and she was terrified for being filmed breaking the rules. I have zero sympathy.

      • leon

        Sounds like there were assholes to go around. Not Surprising for NY.

        why i should care about assholes in a park 2000 miles away is beyond me.

      • RAHeinlein

        I seriously doubt that level of terror was related to fear of being filmed for breaking the leash rules.

      • PieInTheSky

        So why the fuck was it? The guy was not closing in on her.

      • RAHeinlein

        I”m not sure why you keep swearing at me.

      • PieInTheSky

        I am not swearing at you. Those swears were not directed at anyone. They are general swears.

        I will stop commenting.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      The dude’s Facebook post kind of destroys the narrative.

      https://twitter.com/SpicyNoodles2/status/1265154500119101440

      It’s amazing how the Left doesn’t get the “Karen Meme”. In what way is the woman the “Karen” here, when this random dude decided to play park patrol for no good reason other then being a little bitch. Which is not a defense of the woman’s screed, but that guy clearly started trouble for no reason other than he’s a “Karen”.

      Don’t they teach kids “mind your own damn business” anymore?

      • leon

        My understanding of the Left is that they only see the Racial/class aspect of the Karen meme. I.e any white woman (preferably middle class) is a Karen.

      • PieInTheSky

        Wait so if you ask someone to respect the local rules you are a Karen? If for example someone is trowing garbage on the street can you ask them to pick it up?

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        A lot of people need to learn to mind their own business. If you are yelling at someone for breaking some arbitrary rule that is not harming anyone or endangering anyone then yes you are a “Karen”. End of story.

      • PieInTheSky

        Well as I understand a lot of people go to that area to birdwatch and I assume dogs running around can spoil that.

        Also in general there are areas of parks where dogs can run around and areas where they don’t which is fine. I crashed my bike once and hurt myself because some bitch let her dog run in the only area of the park with bike trails (in most of the park bikes were not allowed) where dogs were not allowed. If I slapped the bitch I would have been the bad guy.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        They closed the part of the park where dogs are allowed off leash

      • PieInTheSky

        tough shit.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        You don’t get to dictate what others do. It’s pretty simple. If you’re afraid of a dog off of a leash then go somewhere else. And if you think that’s wrong, then to quote you “tough shit”

      • PieInTheSky

        Ok. And if that dog causes me injury me I can punt it o the other side of the lane and then cunt punch lap the owner. Deal?

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. If you’re afraid then why would you confront them?

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        And of course you can bring violence if the dog is violent toward you. In the meantime if you’re afraid then go somewhere else.

        Snitching and bitching is what children do. Demanding that every stupid and unnecessary law be enforced is what Karens do

      • PieInTheSky

        if you are at the place where you can practice your activity you cannot really go away.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Off-leash dogs where they’re not expected are a pain in the ass if you’re walking your own dog on a leash.

        I have had a couple of incidents where blood was drawn between dogs on and off-leash. Both times it was some dumbass woman who didn’t have her dog under control and said “I don’t know what happened. He’s never done that before!”

      • leon

        Off-leash dogs where they’re not expected are a pain in the ass if you’re walking your own dog on a leash.

        FTFY. I really hate it. Look I don’t know you and i don’t know your dog. You can say that they won’t bite anyone, but i’ve been bitten by enough dogs in my life to not trust any that i don’t personally know.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Or dogs on those stupid extendable leashes that offer no control.

      • Viking1865

        One of my dogs is not friendly to other dogs. No amount of training and behavioral has changed this. She’s just a bitch who hates other dogs. Very friendly to people, but when an off leash dog runs up to her wagging his tail she will start lunging at him.

        Guess who somehow gets all the blame from the Off Leash Dog Gang?

        “My dog is friendly!!!!” Mine isn’t, fucking leash yours so you don’t have to deal with the injuries mine will inflict on any dog that gets within four feet of me.

      • Agent Cooper

        “but i’ve been bitten by enough dogs in my life ”

        Leon. Mailman. Confirmed.

      • Tundra

        I got stitches and a tetanus shot after just such an incident.

        There are a tiny percentage of dogs that may be trusted off-lead where there are other dogs around.

        Pro-tip for you Golden Retriever owners who think your dog is ‘trained’. It isn’t.

        Fuckers.

        My GSD and I went through shit-tons of advanced obedience work and I still walked her on lead when we were in the city. It’s called personal responsibility.

      • kinnath

        My shelties went through 3 years of obedience and agility training.

        They were never in public off leash.

      • R C Dean

        My closest approach to Karening probably comes when I see somebody walking their dog off-leash in my neighborhood. It is basically raw desert with houses plopped down every three acres. There is no end of hazards for dogs. Its just flat-out stupid to walk your dog off-leash (unless you don’t particularly like your dog).

        So when I see someone walking their dog off-leash, I generally try to fill them in on why that’s a bad idea for the dog. Of course, Mrs. Dean won’t walk our dogs near off-leash dogs, because if there’s a canine misunderstanding, its going to be a big fucking misunderstanding, and the Pit Beasts are unlikely to get the benefit of the doubt. We finally convinced the neighbor who would run with her two Dobermans off-leash to leash them. They were extremely well-trained, but that only lasts until the poor impulse control kicks in.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        and the Pit Beasts

        *eyes dart around to see if RC triggered anyone*

      • WTF

        The Pit Beasts are adorable.

      • UnCivilServant

        That one is sticking out it’s tongue at me 🙁

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Meh, asking someone to leash their dog in a public park where it’s required is not outrageous.

        Bringing treats to try to get the dog to come to you in defiance of the owner’s wishes is a dick move.

      • PieInTheSky

        Bringing treats to try to get the dog to come to you in defiance of the owner’s wishes is a dick move. – if the dog was leashed it would not be a problem.

      • mrfamous

        I don’t see any reason why both can’t be considered “dicks” in this situation. But I do get why she’d get pissed if some stranger who was just criticizing me tried to feed my dog something.

        I just don’t get why people don’t mind their own fucking business. If I started an altercation every time I saw someone doing something stupid/dickish, I’d spend half my life explaining to police what had just happened. Eventually they’d conclude (correctly) that I was the problem.

      • Rebel Scum

        Don’t they teach kids “mind your own damn business” anymore?

        It would solve many problems if this was a principle lesson taught to children.

    • Rhywun

      Another international incident for precisely one reason. Getting really sick of these.

    • The Sleeper

      The only one in this story who’s not a bitch is the dog.

    • Hyperion

      Karen sighting!

    • Hyperion

      Central Park and NYers. The first time I was ever in Cental Park, my wife and I were doing one of those Carriage rides. There was some deranged woman chasing us, yelling at the driver ‘Free the horse, free the horse!’, and trying to spit on him.

      Fuck NYC.

    • Drake

      Over 7’0″: they misspelled Wilt Chamberlain.

      I watched Kareen play a lot – he was good for a very long time, but he got his ass handed to him a bunch of times. Dave Cowens kept him under control and Celtics won in ’74. Hakeem Olajuwon and the Rockets knocked them out of the playoffs a few times, and Mosses Malone absolutely dominated Kareem in ’83.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes!

      • PieInTheSky

        I find all these things pointless in general because there was too big a difference between the eras. Wilts time basketball was much weaker… Then gain given Wilts physical prowess, if he had access to modern training and equipment who knows.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        I’m impressed that you know about classic basketball, Pie.

      • Drake

        I would disagree with the weak era stuff. Much smaller league back then so the talent was more concentrated.

      • PieInTheSky

        the talent was weak concentrated or not. Wilt got 100 point hungover with the entire opposite team guarding him.

      • Drake

        He also played at least a dozen a year against Bill Russell.

      • PieInTheSky

        that’s not saying much.

      • Agent Cooper

        “Kareen”

        I am not happy with that foul call and I want to speak to your supervisor!”

      • Drake

        Excellent unintentional knickname. That guy bitched all the time.

      • robc

        Also “Mosses”. Is Drake John?

      • Drake

        Where is that guy? Still fighting the good fight over at TOS?

      • robc

        Like you don’t know? You got booted from here for improper behavior. I guess you are still at TOS.

        /Gonna beat that dead horse

      • Drake

        I missed that episode.

  30. robc

    What is the deal with Baylor?

    Both Rand Paul and Jo Jorgensen went there for undergrad…is it something in the aqua? Some Baptist-libertarian conspiracy (and how come I wan’t invited to the meetings)?

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      Aqua Buddha has blessed Baylor. Praise be to Aqua Buddha!

    • Atanarjuat

      Since they’re Baptists, it’s funny that there is Buddha in the Aqua.

    • Fourscore

      Waco is an exciting town. Koresh, motor cycle gangs, Baylor sports teams, close to West and kolaches. I worked in Waco in ancient times, got hit from the rear by a kid with no insurance, an old lady that hit me from the rear while I was stopped at a stop sign and accused me of hitting her.

      • Mojeaux

        Don’t forget Chip and Joanna Gaines of Fixer Upper fame!

        Yes, people go there just to shop in an HGTV stars’ store and in the hopes of seeing them. Waco has become a tourist attraction, thanks to them.

        /bitter about the midcentury modern Joanna ruined with her tiresome farmhouse chic.

      • Agent Cooper

        And Magnolia Farms!

        It must be easy to renovate houses to make them all look the same and boring.

  31. BakedPenguin

    Since I’ve already messed up in the thread. Here’s a song Silence of the Lambs destroyed: Goodbye Horses.

  32. Pope Jimbo

    So Minnesoda just had 3 really low days of CV fatalities. Good news right? Nope! Minnesoda has highest one day jump in ICU cases

    Since the start of the outbreak, 2,676 Minnesotans have been hospitalized and 605 are currently in the hospital, 248 in intensive care. There are 41 more people in the ICU than reported on Sunday, the largest one-day jump so far in the outbreak.

    This really has become Climate Change. Any good news is “just weather” and they scramble to find some negative in the numbers.

    • leon

      This really has become Climate Change. Any good news is “just weather”

      This is a great analogy. It’s a No True Datapoint version of science and agumentation. Any datapoint that doesn’t coroborate their claim is not real, it’s just noise. But any noise in the right direction is unsullied information.

    • AlmightyJB

      Yeah, daily numbers are dropping everywhere but they don’t report that. The always go with “DEATHS CLIMB TO…” instead.

    • R C Dean

      605 are currently in the hospital, 248 in intensive care. There are 41 more people in the ICU than reported on Sunday, the largest one-day jump so far in the outbreak.

      My first thought is “reporting artifact”. Would need to confirm, of course.

      My second thought is “one data point is not a trend”.

      My third thought is “I bet there is approximately zero hospital capacity issue even after the “jump” in cases.

      • invisible finger

        These numbers are significant if Minnesoda has only three hospitals. Which they might if they are a CON state.

      • R C Dean

        I suspect Mayo alone could take every one of those patients.

      • Pope Jimbo

        RC wins a prize! No worries about ICU capacity even with one day record jump

        Department of Health spokesman Scott Smith said that even with the increase in the use of ICU beds for COVID-19, there is enough capacity to care for patients.

        In the Twin Cities metro area, 87% of ICU beds were full Monday. During the influenza season, it’s not unusual to have ICU beds filled to more than 95% capacity, Smith said.

  33. AlmightyJB

    Would Helena Bonham Carter.

    • Toxteth O’Grady

      I covet her wardrobe, though not her hair-don’t.

      Why does Lady Jane never air anymore? Her and young Cary Elwes! https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091374

      • Rhywun

        *fans self*

      • Mojeaux

        Ditto on her wardrobe.

  34. Rebel Scum

    Not the Bee

    On Thursday, the Washington State Department of Health (DOH) confirmed a report by the Freedom Foundation that they have included those who tested positive for COVID-19 but died of other causes, including gunshot injuries, in their coronavirus death totals. This calls into serious question the state’s calculations of residents who have actually died of the CCP pandemic.

    From the Freedom Foundation:

    The Freedom Foundation’s original report, based on DOH documents and statements provided to the Foundation, concluded that, of the 828 COVID-19 deaths reported as of May 8:

    681 (82 percent) “list some variation of ‘COVID-19’ in one of the causes of death” on the death certificate;
    41 (5 percent) of the death certificates do not list COVID-19 as a cause of death, but indicate it was a “significant condition contributing to death.”
    106 (13 percent) deaths involved persons who had previously tested positive for COVID-19 but did not have the virus listed anywhere on their death certificate as either causing or contributing to death.
    When asked about the Foundation’s report at a press conference Monday, Gov. Jay Inslee dismissed it as “dangerous,” “disgusting” and “malarkey.” He further accused the Freedom Foundation of “fanning these conspiracy claims from the planet Pluto” and not caring about the lives lost to COVID-19.

    Yet DOH officials largely confirmed the main findings of the Foundation’s report in Thursday’s briefing.

    • leon

      Gov. Jay Inslee dismissed it as “dangerous,” “disgusting” and “malarkey.”

      Biden Strikes again


      He further accused the Freedom Foundation of “fanning these conspiracy claims from the planet Pluto” and not caring about the lives lost to COVID-19.

      So much for the “Party of Science”, dude doesn’t even know that Pluto isn’t a planet.

      • Suthenboy

        “He further accused the Freedom Foundation of … not caring about the lives lost to COVID-19.”

        What is it with these fuckknuckles? They use straw men every time. Racist. Sexist. Mysogynist. Murderer. Nazi. Fascist.

        I don’t know who came up with the name President Cartoon Villain but it is accurate. I am going to start using it.

    • Drake

      It’s been that way in most states. Anyone who dies with Covid-19, died of the Covid – even accidents and heart attacks. More federal money for the hospitals.

      • The Sleeper

        The hurricanes are quite costly this year thanks, to global warming.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I saw some clickbait article this weekend that was bemoaning how hurricanes are really going to kill a lot of people this year, because they won’t be able to open up emergency centers where people can go because of CV concerns.

        I can only hope that someone videos some Karen trying to turn away Florida Man from a hurricane disaster center because there are too many people there already and they need to keep their six feet distance.

      • Ozymandias

        My daughter is a nurse tech and just told us yesterday that she knows of at least two cases in our state in which both people clearly, indisputably died of other things, but were COVID positive so were recorded as COVID deaths. She indicated that folks she works with say it’s the $$.
        The numbers are all bullshit, as far as I’m concerned. IMO, It’s likely overreported by a factor of 25-50%, and if you ask me where I get that number, my answer is NY. When NY had 7000 deaths or so, they suddenly announced that they were “presuming” another 3600 were WuFlu deaths. I couldn’t fucking believe that people just… said and nothing – it was right in the paper (the Post, I believe). So that is a bump of 50%. Once NY did it and got away with it, the game was over.

      • ttyrant

        One data point in support of your 25-50% range — Colorado’s government health website started reporting deaths in two separate ways: deaths among people with Covid and deaths due to Covid. As of today, the former number is around 30% higher than the latter. Here’s the website for anyone interested:

        https://covid19.colorado.gov/data/case-data

      • Agent Cooper

        I can’t believe they are doing this. It undermines the narrative.

      • prolefeed

        More importantly, if you look at the COVID cases by date of death, it’s pretty much a bell shaped curve that’s running close to zero deaths per day by now.

      • littleruttiger

        I saw a news article about a drug overdose counted as a corona death in California, and an alcohol poisoning death counted in Colorado (I probably saw them linked here somewhere).

        The response to, and the reporting on, the virus has just been a depressing mess.

      • Raven Nation

        The alcohol poisoning death in CO is what burned the state reporting. It triggered the changes ttyrant described. CO ended up revising death from Covid down by about 15%.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        They need the revenue they would have got from everyday procedures.

      • Toxteth O’Grady

        Fun with stats, just as a collision involving a not-at-fault but >.01 BAC driver becomes “alcohol-related”.

    • Urthona

      My aunt’s best friend died about a month ago. Had pancreatic cancer for 3 years but made it past the initial projections. But it finally caught up to her. She was in the hospital on her death bed and in the final day before she passed on – while in the hospital — she tested positive for coronavirus.

      Went down as a covid death.

      • Urthona

        I should note that while in that hospital they test you basically every day.

      • robc

        An aggressive AG would start filing fraud charges.

  35. Rebel Scum

    So, about that upcoming mandatory mask thingy…

    Of all people caught without a mask, Governor Ralph Northam was sans mask while visiting Virginia Beach on Sunday. He was there to make sure people were properly socially distancing and, if needed, wearing a mask to fight the spread of COVID-219.

    The governor plans to announce on Tuesday whether he’ll make masks mandatory, an issue that has especially roiled residents, who want the state to open back up. On Friday he preached that masks “could literally save someone’s life.”

    Northam posed for non-socially-distanced selfies without a mask with people who thought it was great the governor was there checking up on them.

    Go to hell, you tyrannical douchebag.

  36. kinnath

    Day two without air conditioning. The service tech should be here some time today.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      should have called me, I can do remote work to an extent

      • kinnath

        The local folks do good work. If yesterday hadn’t been a holiday, it would have been fixed yesterday.

        The wife called this morning. They will work us in today.

      • Nephilium

        This weekend was the first time I had to turn on the AC here. Looks like I get to turn it off later this week though, as we’re supposed to drop back into the 60’s.

  37. Rebel Scum

    Assholes.

    A group of shoppers in Staten Island became angry when a woman decided to do her grocery shopping without a mask on. Instead of leaving her be, allowing to go about her day and practicing the group shouted at her, telling her to leave the store.

    “F**k you! F**k you! F**k you!” one man yelled.

    “Get out of here! Get out of here!” a woman yelled, pointing towards the door.

    The man could be heard screaming at the woman. At one point he even said she was “acting like a dirty pig” for not having a mask on.

    • bacon-magic

      I live in Illinois by St. Louis Missouri and about half of the people are wearing masks. Karens I’m sure are still snitching and bitching but fuck them.

    • Trigger Hippie

      And then drugs fell out of her ass. ;p

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      This is the exact incident as the guy who confronted the woman for having the dog off of its leash. If you’re “a scared” then go somewhere else. If the business demands that you wear a mask then wear a mask. But, don’t be a little brown shirt and enforce rules that are meaningless. Mind your own business.

      Seriously, between the guys who shot that jogger, the guy who confronted the woman about the dog, and this gaggle of Karens people are really being inconsistent in these scenarios.

      If I saw a dog off of a leash, I would leave from that area. It makes absolutely no sense to be frightened by a dog not being on a leash to then confronted the same person. Likewise it makes absolutely no sense to be “a scared” that someone has no mask on to then confront and harass them. And you’re not being threatened if you are chasing after a guy and you shoot him in the back.

      These are all the same scenarios, because they have the same root cause: PEOPLE WON’T MIND THEIR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS

      • Suthenboy

        “Seriously, between the guys who shot that jogger, the guy who confronted the woman about the dog, and this gaggle of Karens people are really being inconsistent in these scenarios.”

        “It makes absolutely no sense to be frightened by a dog not being on a leash to then confronted the same person. Likewise it makes absolutely no sense to be “a scared” that someone has no mask on to then confront and harass them. And you’re not being threatened if you are chasing after a guy and you shoot him in the back.”

        They are not being inconsistent at all, it’s just that their motives are not what they say they are. The impulse for herd animals to control other members of the herd is very strong in some people. It makes them feel powerful and fulfilled. “I was justified in defeating you!”

        Have you ever watched soap operas? They appeal to that aspect of human nature. Every interaction is fraught with tension as the characters are all trying to get one over on the other one. They yell at each other instead of being rational. There is all kinds of scheming and conniving. Every situation is adversarial.
        In a nutshell people are envious, sanctimonious pricks.

        This is why I hate them and avoid them as much as possible.

      • invisible finger

        There aren’t many soap operas on TV anymore.

        They’re been replaced with shows like The View, Judge Judy,etc. Where the behavior is exactly the same, only intensified.

      • Suthenboy

        Hey you. I haven’t seen you around in a while….maybe I just wasn’t here when you were but good to see you around again.

      • invisible finger

        If I’m seen, something is wrong….

      • The Sleeper

        Leave Judge Judy out of this!

      • invisible finger

        If the business demands you wear a mask then their employees can demand you wear it, not shoppers.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Agreed.

        How many of these “brave” people yelling at this woman would run away or hide if they saw someone getting physically assaulted? These people are cowards who are trying to pretend to be their brave, because they are harassing someone. I’m not impressed.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Dog’s don’t mind their own business either.

        I’m not afraid of dogs, but I have a healthy respect for them. I’ve been around and owned dogs my entire life. My father owned a Schutzhund and one of my best friends trains dogs for a living.

        Dogs off-leash are rarely under reasonable control, and never under absolute control. And any dog can put a hurt on you.

        They’re property and your property is your responsibility. Unless you’re in an appropriate space, leash your damn dog.

      • mrfamous

        Right. They aren’t threatened, they’re looking to punish someone they don’t like because they think it will make them feel good. Fucking people…

    • Gustave Lytton

      The same mob will be braying at some immunocompromised person or allergy sufferer wearing a face mask when this is over.

    • Agent Cooper

      Their yelling is doing more to spread any kind of germ than her not wearing a mask.

    • R C Dean

      I dunno what I’d do if I happened across a confrontation like that. It would probably depend on my mood, but I can definitely imagine wading into the fray on a bad day. Silence is ascquiescence is consent is approval, and all that.

      • invisible finger

        Easy solution. One cotton ball in each ear. In order for them to get your attention they have to get a lot closer to you than 6 feet in which case they are violating protocol.

      • R C Dean

        If it was me not wearing the mask, I’d tell them to fuck off (I’d only not wear one if the store didn’t require it).

        I’m thinking about a third party being on the receiving end of that kind of hysterical abuse.

      • Tundra

        I wear my earbuds and listen to music while I shop. And I grin at anyone giving me the stink-eye.

        Funny, no one confronts me.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        “MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS” is the only appropriate response. I love how we live in a society where you might get shot or assaulted and few if anyone will even call the police, let alone intervene, but when it comes to enforcing petty laws everyone becomes Captain America.

      • Suthenboy

        Risk analysis. Cost vs. reward.

        As I said last night, people around here are very polite. ‘An armed society is a polite society’ is not just a bumper sticker.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        True

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      Should be noted that they raided BLACK churches. Typically the media would be all over that and screaming about some collegiate clap trap nonsense. In this case- silence.

      • Rebel Scum

        In this case- silence.

        Black, Democrat mayor.

    • bacon-magic

      They keep it up I don’t think the Black vote will be solid Blue soon. Blacks have been beaten up by their own voting habits #blackandblue. (copy and past ftw)

    • Drake

      I’ll take care of it for you.

      Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice….

    • R C Dean

      I like the pastor saying “Yeah, we always lock the doors BECAUSE OF ALL THE FUCKING SHOOTINGS YOU DO NOTHING ABOUT.”

      Or words to that effect.

  38. Fatty Bolger

    The general election scenario that Democrats are dreading

    In early April, Jason Furman, a top economist in the Obama administration and now a professor at Harvard, was speaking via Zoom to a large bipartisan group of top officials from both parties. The economy had just been shut down, unemployment was spiking, and some policymakers were predicting an era worse than the Great Depression. The economic carnage seemed likely to doom President Donald Trump’s chances at reelection.

    Furman, tapped to give the opening presentation, looked into his screen of poorly lit boxes of frightened wonks and made a startling claim.

    “We are about to see the best economic data we’ve seen in the history of this country,” he said.

    Furman’s counterintuitive pitch has caused some Democrats, especially Obama alumni, around Washington to panic. “This is my big worry,” said a former Obama White House official who is still close to the former president. Asked about the level of concern among top party officials, he said, “It’s high — high, high, high, high.”

    • leon

      especially Obama alumni,

      Fuck you.

      • Suthenboy

        You should have said FUCK YOU!!!

        Well that was almost it. The truth is there isn’t a fuck you big enough for them.

      • whiz

        In LaTex there are 10 font sizes, and the largest is \Huge. That seems appropriate.

      • Urthona

        Let’s be honest, though. He was Obama’s economic advisor. Take what he says with a grain of salt.

    • Urthona

      I don’t know if I believe that, but part of me does think that because the economy was shut down for unnatural reasons it will rebound quickly.

      • Suthenboy

        Dirt is not magic. In the broad view all of the complex analysis of the economy are worthless. Economies are made of people and our economy is the way it is because of the people here and our culture. Same is true in Zimbabwe and every other place in the world.
        Yes, it will rebound quickly.

      • Urthona

        To me it kind of depends on how people feel about returning to their jobs and normal economic activity.

        And the media is trying their damnedest to still keep them scared.

        Also, unemployment benefits tend to … of course .. extend unemployment. These won’t go away for awhile. And are quite generous.

      • R C Dean

        There are a lot of very powerful and influential people who are heavily invested in the economy not rebounding. Which, as far as I know, is pretty much unprecedented. Between the DemOp Media promoting the panic, and DemOp government officials at all levels throwing sand in the gears, I dunno. How much can they affect the economy?

        And of course, there’s the pattern every recession follows – steep decline, comparatively slow recovery.

        I like Trump trying to take advantage of this crisis to deregulate as a way to juice the recovery, but deregulation doesn’t happen until the #Resist bureaucracy says it happens. So I’m not optimistic.

      • Rebel Scum

        If it does it will be because of Barry’s unyielding genius. If it doesn’t it will be #TrumpRecession.

      • Urthona

        That’s actually one of the reasons it would be a nightmare scenario (not that the vast majority of partisans would care). You can still credit Obama for every good thing that happened under Trump and it’s standard politics. Truth be told, Trump probably had little to do with it any way.

        But if there’s a massive contraction and then an expansion again… well… good luck with that rhetoric. Furthermore, the most stringent lockdowns were at the behest of Democratic leaders.

    • Agent Cooper

      Savings rate is way higher than normal, which is a good sign.

    • kinnath

      The federal unemployment bonus of 600/week ends in July.

      The question is how many employers will still exist to take back those souls in August.

      • R C Dean

        The federal unemployment bonus of 600/week ends is scheduled to end in July.

        Right now, I’d guess its a coin toss as to whether it actually does or not.

      • kinnath

        My guess is that it ends. This forces people to go back to work. So unemployment drops in the quarter preceding the election.

        I do expect a bailout of employers though.

    • R C Dean

      “We failed. I’m first in line. I shared that [with league officials]. I failed, as the leader of that department. I failed. We cannot allow that to happen again,”

      That’s how its done. Bravo.

      • Tejicano

        Good to see that somebody’s got a pair hanging.

  39. DEG

    Good to see you back sloopy.

    He said he choked and then stabbed her unprovoked, according to the document. He allegedly said he had thoughts of killing himself and others daily.

    Just kill yourself not someone else.

    The governor of Michigan — whose strict coronavirus lockdown policies have caused infamous revolts in the state — is taking heat after her husband appeared to have flouted some of her own advice about holiday travel.

    Rules for thee, not for me.

    Despite the state’s stay-at-home order, the weekend’s death toll already surpassed last year’s holiday weekend, when seven people were killed and 34 were injured during the period from 5 p.m. Friday through 5 a.m. Tuesday.

    A stay-at-home order is just as useless at stopping crime as commonsense gun laws? Who would have thought this?

    • Suthenboy

      Nationwide house arrest was never intended for the political class. They never intended for it to be. It is meant for us, not them. Every one of them that has been called out like this have the same excuse which boils down to “I am more important than you are.”

      • Gustave Lytton

        Yep. Been saying it all along. These rules are for the little people. We have an aristocracy without noblesse oblige or even a skin deep attempt at leading by example.

      • R C Dean

        What’s unfortunate is that the open and contemptuous disregard for their own rules is happening too late for any of them to be primaried.

      • Suthenboy

        They would be replaced by an equal abomination

    • Rebel Scum

      The Russians turned the frickin’ frogs gay.

    • Suthenboy

      She is asking China to help but starting out with ‘imagine if’.
      She already sold us out to the Ruskies. Now China. She genuinely hates America.
      Good God that woman is execrable.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Well it works for her party. If Biden fails to be nominated as president the groundwork is already laid that China helped Trump.

      If Biden wins, they can say they defeated not only China but Russia while having both in their pockets or vice-versa Biden in their pockets

      • Suthenboy

        She openly asked a foreign power to attack the United States on television as a way of helping the democrats win an election. That should tell everyone everything they need to know about her and her party.

      • leon

        I might be missing the sarcasm here. But she is posing a hypothetical about What if a Dem did what Trump did during the 2016 election. Really it came off as a bunch of self centered bitching to me.

      • Suthenboy

        “…China, are you listening?”

        She is not posing a hypothetical. She just gave a weak disclaimer and asked them outright to hack into the IRS and steal Trump’s returns.

      • leon

        I guess its okay when it’s Russia but not china?

        Thats the whole point. She’s bitching about Loosing to Trump and pushing the Russia collusion narrative. But apparently she’s write about one thing. If the shoe was on the other foot, the Right would be crying foul.

      • R C Dean

        I disagree, at least to the extent Right = Repubs. I there had been any evidence of collusion with Russia, there’s a not small number of Repubs who would have gladly demanded that Trump resign.

      • R C Dean

        I believe SCOTUS is supposed to rule soon on whether Congress can get Trump’s pre-election tax returns (for which only the most credulous would believe there is any proper legislative purpose).

        I wonder what Hillary’s little birdies have told her about which way SCOTUS is leaning on that one. I actually think its going to be a tough one, as it will either require SCOTUS to accept a transparent and obvious pretext, or to reject the purpose stated by Congress. Neither is a good look. You would think SCOTUS would be pissed at Congress for putting it in this position, but who knows?

  40. Rebel Scum

    Hillary Clinton✔
    @HillaryClinton

    I’m missing our Chappaqua Memorial Day parade today while also feeling grateful to leaders like @NYGovCuomo for making responsible decisions to keep people safe.

    Wishing everyone a safe and healthy holiday. @BillClinton and I will be waving our flags at home. ??

    Uh huh…

    • Suthenboy

      Waving flags? Bullshit.
      Ten bucks says that somewhere in her house is a cross hanging upside down.

      • Drake

        Like this nice lady who will be brewing up vaccines for us?

      • Suthenboy

        Good Lord I was just joking. That’s not real, is it? At this point it is hard to tell what is and isn’t real.

      • Drake

        It’s real – she wore it on a TV interview.

        Might explain why she now looks like a dude and her husband looks like an old lady.

      • R C Dean

        Too bad everything seems to be video. That looks like one hell (snicker) of an entertaining site, but I’m a text guy, not a video guy.

      • l0b0t

        She means waving her labia at Huma.

    • R C Dean

      Tone deaf sociopath be tone deaf.

    • wdalasio

      Oh, fercrissakes!! Somebody stick that old bat in a nursing home!

  41. Rebel Scum

    I aim to misbehave.

    At his daily COVID-19 press update on Friday, Gov. Ralph Northam hinted that Virginians could soon be subject to a mandatory mask order as early as next week, after Richmond Mayor Levar Stoney asked Northam to take the drastic step in a letter sent to the governor.

    “There have been overwhelming recommendations to wear masks or face coverings in public spaces, and I stand firm that by doing this we can all reduce the spread of COVID-19,” Stoney wrote. “As the nation’s only doctor governor, I know that you understand that this is not the time for us to let down our guard, which is why I am continuing to encourage you to make it a requirement that Virginians must wear a mask or face covering while in a public space or visiting businesses.”

    Northam says that an announcement on masks could come as early as Tuesday, and it seems likely that the governor will try to press the issue despite the fact that in recent weeks he’s been pushing more for a regional reopening and response to the coronavirus pandemic. If the governor does decide to attempt to implement a mask mandate, he should be aware that his order is likely to be met with almost as much pushback and local resistance as his gun control agenda has been throughout much of the state.

    • Viking1865

      When the governor puts his Klan mask on again, I’ll wear a face mask.

  42. Evan from Evansville

    I’m sorry Banjos. I can only that rather than feel grief, you will soon have the ability to remember and respect the importance and influence of your father on your life.

    I hope fond memories pulse through your entire existence.

    I am sorry for your loss for the hardship you must be experiencing. To have helped create you, a person I have utmost respect for, I imagine that he was truly an incredible man.

    He must me remembered as such.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      And not while dancing….

      • robc

        Last line:

        The Baptists also warned that using too much of the alcoholic hand sanitizer can make you tipsy and maybe cause you to commit little sins or big ones like dancing.

    • Suthenboy

      Before looking let me guess….democrats all?

      Aaaaand of course it is. If not for voter fraud the Dems would have the status and support equal to the LP. The LP are loons but at least they are honest loons.

    • UnCivilServant

      That’s because the voter fraud is everywhere and they aren’t being as careful they used to.

      • Suthenboy

        Wait now…someone over at TOS, I think it was Ron Bailey, assured us this never happens and I believe it.