The Wildcatters
Almost as soon as the modern-style brass rifle cartridge entered the scene in the mid-19th century, American shooters began messing around with them. A wildcat cartridge is, of course, a custom cartridge that is not commercially produced, usually designed to provide some added power or to fit some other unique need.
As the nineteenth century gave way to the twentieth, wildcatting was in full swing in the United States. Then, on May 25th, 1903, in Granville, New York, was born one Parker Otto “P.O.” Ackley, who in time would become one of the county’s greatest custom rifle builders and redefine what it meant to be a wildcat cartridge developer.
The Man
Ackley developed an interest in working on guns in his youth, but it was not until he sold the New York family farm and bought a gunsmith shop in Roseburg, Oregon in 1936 that he turned professional. Only a few short years later he was interrupted by the Second World War, during which time he worked at the Ogden Ordnance Depot in Utah, developing a repair program that was successful enough that the Army turned it into a permanent arsenal refurbishing installation.
In 1945, with the war over, P.O. repaired to the small town of Trinidad, Colorado, there to open a gunsmith and custom rifle shop and eventually help found the gunsmithing school that is now part of the Trinidad State Junior College.
During those post-war years he also wrote extensively on rifles and shooting, serving on the staffs of both Guns & Ammo and Shooting Time magazines as well as authoring several books, most notably his Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders series that are as helpful today as they were when published.
But it was his work in rifle building and cartridge development that excelled far beyond most of his peers.
The Cartridges
Ackley did a lot of experimenting on rifles and cartridges and was not above testing guns to destruction. One of his more notorious experiments involved a .378 Weatherby case necked down to .22 caliber, which in its appellation he coined a phrase I am fond of using myself: The .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer Magnum. His stated goal with this round was to break the 5,000fps mark, but his fastest load only made 4,600fps (!), making it one of his few failures. This round was apparently developed at the urging of Bob Hutton of Guns & Ammo, making it highly likely that this was no more than a publicity stunt.
Still, most of Ackley’s wildcats were eminently practical. His general rule for his “improved” cartridges was to fire-form a standard case out to a sharper shoulder, usually 40 degrees, increasing case volume somewhat while still allowing the use of the standard round. The .30-06 Ackley Improved, for example, approximates the performance of the .300 Holland & Holland Magnum, while retaining the versatility that the ubiquitous .30-06 round provides.
Ackley was the first wildcatter to experiment with .17 caliber cartridges. One of those experiments was the .17 Flintstone Super Eyebunger, which was based on the .22-250 case necked down and blown out. Australian shooter Bill Hambly-Clark Jr used a 50-inch test barrel to hit almost 4,800fps with this round, which likely makes it the highest velocity ever achieved in a rifle barrel of any sort.
Ackley’s list of cartridges includes:
- .17 Ackley Hornet, a .22 Ackley Hornet necked down to .17 caliber (4.5 mm)
- .17 Ackley Bee, a .218 Improved Bee necked down to .17 caliber (4.5 mm)
- .22 Ackley Improved Hornet, an improved .22 Hornet
- .218 Ackley Improved Bee, an improved .218 Bee
- .219 Zipper Improved, an improved .219 Zipper
- .22/.30-30 Ackley Improved, a .30-30 Ackley Improved necked down to .22 caliber (5.56 mm)
- .22-250 Ackley Improved, an improved .22-250 Remington
- .223 Ackley Improved, an improved .223 Remington
- .224 Belted Express, formed from .30-06 brass.
- .228 Ackley Magnum, an improved 7×57mm Mauser necked down to .228 caliber (5.8 mm
- 6mm AR Improved / 6mm AR Turbo, an improved 6mm AR (itself a necked-down 6.5mm Grendel).
- 6mm/.30-30 Improved, a .30-30 Ackley Improved necked down to 6 mm (.243)
- .243 Ackley Improved, an improved .243 Winchester
- .25 Ackley Krag, a .30-40 Krag necked down to .25 caliber (6.2 mm)
- .25-06 Ackley improved, an improved .25-06 Remington with a 40-degree angled shoulder
- .25 Ackley Krag Short, a slightly shortened .25 Ackley Krag
- .250-3000 Ackley Improved, an improved .250-3000 Savage
- .257 Ackley Improved, an improved .257 Roberts
- .260 Ackley Improved, an improved .260 Remington
- .270 Winchester Ackley Improved, an improved .270 Winchester.
- 7×57mm Mauser Ackley Improved, an improved version of the 7×57mm Mauser cartridge with 40-degree shoulder.
- .280 Remington Ackley Improved, an improved version of the .280 Remington cartridge with 40-degree shoulder.
- .30-30 Ackley Improved, an improved .30-30 Winchester
- .30-06 Ackley Improved, an improved .30-06 Springfield
- .30 Ackley Magnum No. 1 and No. 2 short, based on the Holland & Holland belted magnum, the No. 2 version designed to fit in standard length actions (.30-06 class)
- .303 Ackley Improved, an improved version of the .303 British Mark VII service cartridge
- .338-06 Ackley Improved, an improved .338-06 A-Square (which is a .30-06 necked up to .338 caliber)
- .348 Ackley improved Which is a .348 Winchester .348 Ackley improved gets about 200 feet a second more velocity over the standard.
- .35 Ackley Magnum No. 1 and No. 2 short based on the .30 Ackley Magnum cases; there is also an Improved version of the No. 2.
- .450 Ackley Magnum, based on .375 H&H Magnum necked up to .458
- .475 Ackley Magnum, based on a .375 H&H Magnum necked up to .475 (12 mm)
But while Ackley was fond of wringing a little extra performance out of standard cartridges, he insisted on designing his wildcats to allow the use of standard factory rounds. For example, a rifle chambered for the .30-06 Ackley Improved will safely chamber and fire standard .30-06 rounds, in so doing fire-forming the cases to the Improved spec.
He was not, however, a fan of belted magnums. “Of course,” he was quoted as saying, “these big ones make more noise and they would be highly efficient if you could scare animals to death.”
The Guns
P.O. Ackley built many custom rifles, every one of them a singular piece, normally made on order for a specific customer. Ackley used a wide variety of actions, including the Winchester Model 70, the Interarms Mark X 98 Mauser, the Sako Vixen and Tikka actions, the Pattern 14 and 17 Enfield actions, the Ruger #1 single shot and many others. He did left-hand conversions of the Model 70 and presumably other bolt guns (the Model 70 is the only example I have found, but that does not mean he didn’t do others.)
Ackley’s custom rifles were known as excellent, hand-made, hand-fitted arm, made to order, fitted to the individual shooter. He used solid actions and good wood. A P.O. Ackley rifle is an heirloom piece, one that should be passed on through the generations.
In my own career I have had the distinct privilege to handle and fire precisely one P.O. Ackley rifle, many years ago at a gun club in Virginia when the Army had me working out there. The piece in question was built on an FN 98 Mauser action, with a 24” barrel for the standard .30-06 and a beautiful dark walnut stock with gorgeous figure. The rifle, according to the owner, was glass-bedded with a free-floated barrel and a Timney trigger.
The rifle’s owner had mounted a low-powered (the exact specs escape me at this distance in time) Leupold variable scope. He showed me a couple of sub-MOA groups he had just shot with the rifle and, to my surprise, offered to let me shoot it.
I fired three three-shot groups. The stock was a tad short for me, but I managed to hold all nine shots within about an inch and a quarter, which I will say was not too bad for a rifle I was unfamiliar with. I am sure some action work had been done as the bolt ran very smoothly even for the usually-fine FN action, and the Timney trigger broke very cleanly at a crisp five pounds or so, slightly on the heavy side for my preference but not excessively so.
Being an impoverished Second Lieutenant at the time, I did not bother asking what a rifle like that would cost. Suffice it to say that even in those innocent times it was obvious that an Ackley custom rifle would occupy a place of status in any gun rack. That is as true today as it was when P.O. was still cranking out fine guns.
The Legacy
Ackley once famously said of his competitors, “I have no quarrel with the man who has a lower price. He knows better than anyone else what his product is worth.” He promised and delivered a premium product and was fortunate to live in a time when it was easier for a man to set up and run his business affairs as best suited him. He built find guns and sold them for a fine price. What with all the plastics and polymers modern guns wear these days, one wonders how big a market he’d find today, but its encouraging to note that Ackley rifles still command a pretty good chunk of folding money – if you can find an owner willing to part with one.
Parker Otto Ackley went to his reward on August 23rd, 1989 in Salt Lake City, having made a far greater than average mark on the American rifle shooting scene. On his passing, Ackley’s good friend and colleague Colonel Charles Askins said, “With a total interest in the shooting game, with a dedication and a devotion to rifles and their loads, the man had given countless hours, money and effort to the betterment of the existing American family of rifle cartridges. The debt of the shooters of this country to Parker Ackley is a major one.”
One could bend a keyboard for months and not come up with a more fitting epitaph for the marvelous Mr. Ackley.
Huh. Maybe I should have saved my Assault weapons manufacturing joke for this article.
Thanks, Animal.
Interesting dude. I especially like his thoughts on pricing.
I still prefer the look and feel of a wooden stock.
Did you ever get a hunting rifle?
No, I was still browsing when the kerfuffle came along.
I don’t have any wood furniture on any of my guns. I tend to beat things up, and with plastic/fiberglass/aluminum, it just doesn’t bother me as much as wood.
Of course, my guns (like my knives) are tools. If I was a collector, I’m sure I would want wood furniture on my collector pieces.
I don’t have as much that needs shooting so I’m more of a collector at the moment.
My primary hunting rifle has Kevlar furniture, so, yeah. But I’m also a collector, and love me some polished blue steel and fine walnut.
I still prefer the look and feel of a wooden stock.
That’s what she said.
HA HA H-
I should probably just go mow the grass.
I should probably just go mow the grass.
Also what she said.
Guns and History! Thanks Animal
He looks like the kind of grouchy curmudgeon who would fit in perfectly here.
Click-clacking out some mid-afternoon article on his typewriter and stuffing it in the mail just in time for the wagon to whisk it on over to Glib HQ.
Is that not how everyone writes their articles?
it’ll just get lost in the tons of mail-in ballots, so SAVE A CARBON !
Send me down a rabbit hole why don’t ya.
I’ll be using this one in the near future i can tell
https://dilbert.com/strip/1993-04-17
https://dilbert.com/strip/1993-04-30
I do appreciate Dilbert more now I am older.
Scott Adams is totally canceled for being “trumpy” or something; not immediately repeating whatever shibboleths and admonishments were necessary in 2016. I remember reading comments among some lefties along the lines of “like, who would have thought the Dilbert guy was a f(*&ing trumptard”, etc. His interview with Peter Robinson was interesting.
Talk about getting a different appreciation for Dilbert – when you read one and realize you are the pointy-haired boss.
I’ve read Catch-22 every four or five years since 1977. Around 2000 I realized I was not Yossarian: I am Colonel Korn.
Interesting article Animal.
Animal, do you know any markings that could help identify Ackley’s work? I have a rifle that I inherited from a great uncle that had a very interesting, and not cheap, assortment of guns. One of them I really haven’t looked into that much, but from the one gunsmith I took it to looked it over quickly and commented that it was a Mauser action, but that it had been rechambered at some point, and at a significant expense. He didn’t do the measurements to figure it out, but said the work was very well done. I know that my great uncle was married to old Texas money and this was his main hunting rifle. Looking at the picture you posted, my rifle is very similar, with the main difference being some inlays in the checkering.
I really need to get that gun to a smith to measure the bore…
Most will be marked “P.O. Ackley” on the barrel. As far as I’ve been able to determine that’s the only marking he put on his rifles.
Just looked it over – absolutely nothing on the barrel, and the only markings on the receiver are the original proofing marks from Germany (it’s an old 98K action). I really need to get this thing checked out – gun’s in beautiful condition save some scraping on the top of the cheek weld from where the bolt was pulled too far back…
If you can provide some of those proofmarks, I should be able to consult Ludwig Olson and at least tell you when/where the action was built.
Most of them are pretty worn down, but I’ll see if I can get some pictures.
The rifle needs some work though – as I was checking it out today I cycled the bolt, and when I closed the bolt, it dry fired. Finger wasn’t anywhere near the trigger, and subsequent cycling showed that if the bolt is bumped, it could cause the rifle to fire. Don’t think I’ll be taking that one to the range any time soon…
P.O. Ackley was a super-interesting character. One of the very first men to make a systematic study of what makes one rifle cartridge more or less accurate than another. That 30-40 degree shoulder didn’t just increase powder capacity; it also made for a more consistent burn rate and less shot-to-shot velocity drift.
Great stuff, Animal!
https://www.c-span.org/blog/?4363/american-history-prime-time-landmark-cases
They’re re-running the series: excellent for HS or college students.
Looks intriguing, though the list of cases that are landmarks just go to show that the Supreme Court is Supreme at making awful decisions. Korematsu, Dred Scott, Shneck, Roe,
Biden will fix that.
Indeed, the fecklessness of the last term being most demonstrative: we have not emerged.
It’s still great history and a portal to formal discussion (which I adore) that most grow up without.
Once the 14A is “incorporated” and “due process” distorted, the USG is in charge of almost everything if appealed to. Once every iota under the sun is captured as “interstate,” the USG is then, via the commerce clause, in charge of everything it wishes to be. Between these two notions, federalism is a dead letter and with it dies much hope of 50 experiments much less individualism.
I prefer the report of my .300 Win Mags to the short action magnums, which are (typically?) not belted.. I think the .300 is loaded with slower burning powder, and the report isn’t a sharp as rounds loaded with “hot” fast burning powder.
Another terrific article Animal. Given all the work that Ned Roberts put into his .25, it is amusing to consider the Ackley improved. Reading about Roberts and the slope and case length (largely chosen because of the then available powders), did Ackley have some different powders that led to his improvements?
Not that I’m aware of.
So that’s really interesting, because it would seem that some of his predecessors (including Roberts) got the physics wrong (opting for the lower shoulder angle).
Side note: Trinidad used to be the epicenter of sex change surgery (as it was then known). Apparently, virtually no hospital or surgeon in the country would do it until pretty recently, so a surgeon who was in the business set up shop in Trinidad, presumably after convincing the local hospital that it was both lucrative and ethically permissible.
You’re from Paducah or Turkey thereabouts, right?
John Brinkley was a rogue doctor in them parts (Kansas?) who finally fled to Mexico to perform potency revival surgeries (installing goat balls!). His advertising and involvement with border radio was a huge part of the rising of X blaster stations and the whole movement that gave us Wolfman Jack and fueled ZZTop.
¡ cojones grandes !
You’re from Paducah or Turkey thereabouts, right?
Pampa, TX (in the Panhandle) as a wee Dean, then Vernon, TX as a sullen teenager.
ah, Vernon was what I was remembering
My son’s namesake was born in Pampa around 1921 to a salesman of down-hole tools and his wife, a girl from Graham.
One of my unflagging prejudices is in favor of west Texans. I know it’s wrong, but I just enjoy it so.
I watched an Amazon River documentary (on Amazon Prime, which makes it really hard to search) last night. It was a piece of crap. And not in the political way you would expect, in that it was boring and awfully shot. It was like they had the budget to take a vacation up the Amazon, shot what they could shoot in that week, and then pieced it together into a documentary. None of it was interesting at all. I somehow made it thru all 50 minutes, but that was just sheer tenacity at a certain point.
I am not convinced that jaguar wasn’t filmed in a zoo somewhere.
Maybe it was actually a documentary about how to write off your vacation to the Amazon as a business expense disguised as a documentary about the Amazon.
The real documentary is about taking that boat over the Andes.
Orcs March On Minas Tirith In Mostly Peaceful Protest
“Everything is very calm, very peaceful here,” said a reporter from Gondor News Network. “It’s very tranquil.” Just then, an Oliphaunt charged right at him and flattened him into lembas bread.
Trump Orders Federal Agents To Round Up All Murder Hornets, Release In Portland
Many people are calling the tactic the “most brilliant strategic solution of all time” and saying that it’s a perfect example of “killing two birds with one stone.”
“Release the hornets,” Trump said at a strategy meeting this morning. “You know, I’ve always wanted to say that. You’d think I would have had the opportunity by now, but no. It’s sad, really. The president should get to say that way more often. Anyway, I’m glad the day has finally come. Release the hornets, I say! Ha. See? It’s fun. Hey, Mike, you want to say it too?”
The vice president shook his head, stone faced.
“Alright, well, suit yourself.”
Thanks for the history lesson, Animal. Now, off to Gun Broker.
Nice anti-racists you have there.
One these nights they will make it into the courthouse. At that point, the feds probably switch to live ammo in order to prevent the people inside from being lynched.
I honestly havn’t looked at any recent polling, so i’ll take there word for it. I’m still surprised that a major political party would fall on the side of rioters.
I wrote a few days ago asking whether the trend since March is a departure from Trump’s long-run polls or just noise about the mean.
Trump’s approval rate is stunningly flat; it started bad but has gone nowhere regardless of missteps, triumphs, claims, rebuttals, or the virus. Trump plods along at 42% approval with 53% disapproval; we don’t know how many of these folk are likely voters, but it doesn’t matter: the numbers refuse to move. Trump’s core is resolute . . . as are his detractors . . . unless you believe that the [trend since March,] (a drop to 40% from 45), are meaningful reflections of something or just noise as he continues to bob around in his normal altitude.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
I had been tracking the decline, but hadn’t looked in a week or two. It certainly looks like a trend locally, (i.e if you look back over the last year) but overall it is well within the parameters of where he has been throughout his presidency. However i don’t think all the variation in his approval is just noise, and that it does represent some loss, though in the context of where he has been, it shows that he could recover from it, though i don’t know if he has time.
If you want to see flat, look at the national poling of Trump v Biden:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/
To me this says: People paying attention have already decided, and nothing will change their mind, and it is the undecideds, and they still aren’t quite paying attention.
I’ve seen plenty of vids with “protestors” calling black cops epiteths and, yeah, it’s usually some pasty ass punkass douchebag who’s either too damn stupid to get the irony or he does but just doesn’t give a damn.
Strangely fascinating.
And now I want beef for dinner.
That’s just the American Beef Lobby commercials talking to you.
There are harder products to sell.
+1 Americana music
Notice the media has gone silent on Sweden?
No lockdowns, no wild power grabs, no crazy arbitrary rules, no intentionally bankrupting businesses. They have about a million and a half more people than New Jersey and about 1/3 the covid deaths. New cases are running at about two a day. They quarantined the people at risk and let the younger people socialize, get the virus, and develop immunities – the exact opposite of what we did here.
Swedes are too nice, they should be spiking the ball in the end-zone and taunting every other country in Europe and North America.
I figured they all died so it was no use talking about them anymore.
Same when South Dakota didn’t go nuts and shut down everything. People where raging against the Republican governor but if I’m correct the amount of deaths and infections where lower than states like CA, NJ, or NY.
I don’t have an axe to grind, but Sweden’s total death rate is one of the world’s worst, almost 600/M. They are indeed down to two deaths a day now.
But this aligns more with my old, ongoing theory that all jurisdictions are just converging on a natural, long-term total mortality (pure guess: 1,000/M). I would speculate that all we can congratulate Sweden for is getting theirs in the ground before it freezes again.
As to conjectures that government interdiction makes little long-run difference, I would say that is consistent with the data.
But if you remember, way back in March, the whole reason for the lockdown was, broadly speaking
“X number of people are going to die from COVID. What the lockdown will do is spread out the cases and deaths so that the hospitals are not overwhelmed, leading to an additional Y deaths. We need the lockdown so that the COVID patients will not overwhelm the system and lead to otherwise avoidable deaths among non COVID sick and injuried people.”
Then after we were several weeks into the lockdown, it started morphing into “We have to stay locked down until the vaccine is ready.”
So much this…
Plus, Sweden will not assfuck their entire economy by shutting down for months and months.
yeah, that’s pretty much covered in As to conjectures that government interdiction makes little long-run difference, I would say that is consistent with the data.
At this point I think it’s even more important that less damage was done to psychological health of Swedes.
As TOS reports:
Most Americans think that this is normal–they are mentally ill.
“when a police officer approached her and wrote her a ticket for not wearing a mask”
I guarantee you every single jurisdiction across the country is looking at the revenue shortfalls from sales taxes, gas taxes, meals taxes, etc etc etc and the cops will be writing as many tickets as possible.
Not only that, they’r cheering the cops on.
Sweden: 5,697 deaths, total population 10,343,403
New Jersey: 15,804 deaths, total population 8,882,190
Sweden has 59.6 people/sq mile, but they are clustered, however, I suspect that population density is a big factor that shouldn’t be overlooked.
1. Murphy killed about 6k or 7k off the bat in the nursing and Veteran homes.
2. The big outbreak centers were in communities with people taking commuter trains into NYC. They started cleaning those trains in May.
So, areas of increased density 😀
That actually fits my argument: NJ is just the worst and the earliest part of the US trend; we could just as easily congratulate NJ as Sweden for getting their numbers down.
Their death-curve is concave down, completely consistent with my speculation about both convergent (asymptotic) behavior and absolute, long-run value.
I think you’re probably right, Don.
The thing is, Sweden peaked early, over three months ago. Comparing their death rate to countries that peaked later or not at all is misleading, at best.
This thing is going to run. The only things we should try to manage is (1) exposure by highly at risk populations, until we get to herd immunity or it dies out on its own (like SARS-1 did) and (2) hospital capacity, which to date has been a non-issue. Even New York had enough native hospital capacity to manage its outlier peak.
No lockdowns, no wild power grabs, no crazy arbitrary rules, no intentionally bankrupting businesses.
That’s not exactly correct. They didn’t do it to the point of elsewhere, and far less than the rest of Europe, and their restrictions apparently are still more stringent than neighboring countries as those other countries have reopened. Their economy still got hammered. Part of that is because they don’t exist as an economic island, part of it is that covid would have had an impact regardless of ironfisted government action.
Fuck. Off.
The United Nations human rights office has issued a stark warning to authorities in the US against using disproportional force against protesters and journalists involved in anti-systemic racism protests across the country.
The UN called on authorities to specifically ensure federal and local police were clearly identifiable, after images emerged of officers hiding their badge numbers when using force against protesters.
“There have been reports that peaceful protesters have been detained by unidentified police officers,” said Liz Throssell, UN human rights spokesperson.
“That is a worry because it may place those detained outside the protection of the law and may give rise to arbitrary detention and other human rights violations.”
The same assholes who turned a blind eye when their soldiers and the military contractors they hired where participating in a sex trafficking ring. The UN can go get fucked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Human_Rights_Council#Current
Includes such places, known for tempered responses to protestors like: Libya, Mauritania, Sudan, Somolia, DR Congo, Pakistan, Qatar, and Span :cough: Catalonia :cough:
fuck the UN, sanctimonious bastards. They can go get fucked.
Defund and skinsuit them.
I was always indifferent to the UN hate, but I’m becoming convinced that the institution should be burned to the ground.
I think it was Mark Steyn who compared the UN to mixing ice cream and dog shit. The end result is going to end up tasting more like dog shit than ice cream.
‘Completely irresponsible’ Republican coronavirus stimulus plan lacks direct cash aid for states, Murphy says
Oh no! Not that! Anything except job cuts to useless state employees!
“The governor, speaking during a pair of morning TV interviews, described the plan put forward as “unfathomable” as New Jersey and other states have been crushed financially by
the outbreakhis idiotic reaction to a cold virus.”Cuomo offered to not tax the volunteers that came from accross the country if the Feds shovel him bail out money.
And people praise this sort of extortion solely because he’s Not-Trump.
“Job cuts for public workers at the state and local levels on the front lines of the coronavirus battle”
Because there are no other public workers whose jobs could be cut.
What? You expect the governor to take a cut? It’s would just be a pittance
Another reason to vote straight GOP in the fall: if the Dems take over, there will be an absolutely massive bailout of the bankrupt blue state pension funds under the guise of coronavirus relief. Now, it might happen anyway, because Donald Trump is a feckless moron who thinks debt is totes awesome because you can gold plate toilets with it.
But if Biden wins, and the Dems take Congress, you’re going to see an absolutely staggering bailout bill for all the pubsec union pension plans in all the blue states.
Another great article. Ol’ PO and I share the same tailor, I only wish he’d have shared some knowledge and guns. His repertoire is extensive, I’ve read stories but never seen an Ackley in the wild. Thanks, Animal
Dave, you disingenuous cunte.
David Axelrod
@davidaxelrod
The is precisely what
@realDonaldTrump
and his campaign were hoping for. He’s an arsonist, not a fireman.
He wants to stir violent protests to fuel his “law and order” campaign ads.
That’s quite the spin.
When your side does something that makes a great campaign ad for the other side, that might just be a good time to stop and reflect on just what the fuck you’re doing.
Oh, the old “You made us do it!” defense?
“these big ones make more noise and they would be highly efficient if you could scare animals to death.”
My dad scared a deer to death once. True story. He had shot one and it was struggling. He went about ten yards from it and decided to end its misery. He shot and missed (rookie mistake from an aging veteran, bless his heart), But the deer immediately stopped moving upon the shot. We look for quite a while, but there was not bullet hole other than the original leg shot.
Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRRRLApWOE0
https://twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/1287639301182947329
FOREIGN INTERFERENCE!!!
“Roast the piggies!”
Although I live in NJ reason number 1,001 I’m glad I’m not in the “Bay Area”.
My experience contradicts most posts – Nema installation cost and 110 110v charge time
Fricking $600 for an electrical permit for a 50A 240V outlet.
Rest of the bill I have no idea about as the Reddit whiner doesn’t disclose how long the run from the panel is or what is involved with where it needs to go. 6/3 Romex is close to $2/ foot, breaker is $10 and outdoor outlet is $40. Ask me how I know… 😉
The fees for anything are out of control. Neighbor put in a 450sqft shop outbuilding. ~$5k for the building itself, and $1400 for the building permit and $400 for electrical permit.
NJ is relatively sane with this. And for something like this if done by a licensed electrician no permit is required.