So there I was in Neph’s Virtual Glibs Happy Hour, just minding my own business, maybe doing a little matchmaking here and there, when WHAM! out of the blue l0b0t says, “SP morning links are the best links. You always have SPecial formatting and such.”
Dude. Way to add some pressure. Now I can’t phone it in.
Nevertheless, OMWC is visiting Spud for the weekend, getting up to all kinds of trouble, some most all of which I cannot repeat even here at Glibs HQ, so it appears I shall be pinch hitting for morning links today. Ready?
Links
An amazing musician has left us a little poorer by his passing.
Sigh. Can 2020 be over yet?
Stay safe, Glibbies.
Oh, just fuck off already.
May I please go there. Now?
Because, hey, let’s have the government throw even more people out of work.
Nice voting scheme you got there. Be a shame if something happened to it.
On this day in history
1839: Republic of Texas auctioned the first lots in Austin, thus giving birth to the city. Now they have a lame “virtual” birthday bash.
1947: India achieved independence, ending almost 200 years of British rule.
1960: The Republic of Congo gained independence from France.
1971: Bahrain proclaimed independence.
I’m seeing a pattern here. People just get sick of taking shit in mid-August.
#metoo
Celebrating Birthdays
(unless they are dead, then not so much)
1769: Napoleon.
1845: A propagandist, who was still a decent artist.
1924: Phyllis Schlafly
1925: Oscar Peterson
And a bunch of other people.
Have a great day!
Alternate headline: USPS sees bargaining opportunity to get chunk of tax money.
Our local letter carrier is quite incompetent. Fortunately, our little neighborhood is good at forwarding on incorrectly delivered items to the intended recipient.
She deserves a pay cut.
Our route is officially an afterthought. I’m pretty sure we don’t have our own dedicated carrier any more. (Shame – we really liked Sam, our old guy.) We get whoever is done with their “real” route – sometimes don’t get our mail until very late afternoon/early evening. And we’re not even out in the boonies by any stretch.
We should place bets to see which one us receives the most completed election ballots in their mailbox by the end of election night. Second bet for how many show up in the following week.
You have actual letter carriers? Mailmen/women/otherkins?
How quaint. Since moving from Calgary to the coast and then back to Edmonton, we’ve had to deal with the ignominy of the Canada Post “Supermailbox,” a thingie on a pedestal by a sidewalk that contains dozens of little boxes like old post offices used to have, ‘ceptin’ they’re outdoors and exposed to the elements. Canada Post has been pushing these things on an unwilling populace for the last couple of decades. The latest one we have to use isn’t so bad ’cause it’s very close to our house (we’re on a corner), but I’m sure I’ll never see home delivery of mail again in my lifetime. The one upside is that it at least has several secure “large” boxes that various-sized deliveries can be put in, but a lot of these things are also targeted by thieves (because of course they are).
Of course we do. They are probably just as difficult to fire or lay off as any other public sector employee.
It helps if they go postal.
USPS does that here, particularly with new developments. Reminds me of living in an apartment.
Because of the rather stupid layout of our town, there is a XXX SW 5th, XXX SE 5th, an XXX SW 6th, and so on. My mail is often scattered about the town…
I like what this USPS/Election story says about our “free press”. They have spent quite a bit more time covering this story than they spent covering the guilty plea of Kevin Clinesmith.
Now, the story is that the President is using the Post Office to steal the election by suppressing the vote. It is a silly story. The post office handles more pieces of mail every single day than there are voters in the USA. It is not an issue. It is quite obviously completely invented. The DNC does this every single election. They go find some road construction and claim that it is a Republican plot to suppress the minority vote. They go find some polling station that got moved because the building is being torn down for new construction and claim that it is to suppress the minority vote. But this story is just organically being picked up by every media outlet? For days on end? Yeah, I have a bridge to sell you too.
Meanwhile, Clinesmith pleads guilty in a case where he prepared a FISA warrant designed to spy on the president-elect of the United States. They lied about a CIA and FBI asset who had been working for them on cases against the Russians, and he personally altered an email from the CIA to swap the meaning from “yes, he was a CIA asset” to “No, he wasn’t a CIA asset.”
Nobody even covered it. A quick google search shows NPR as the top link, Then Newsbreak.com, WRVO.org, Hannity.com, lawandcrime.com and finally the New york post is the first newspaper. That’s how buried this story is.
And how did NPR cover it? After a couple of muted paragraphs filled with “allegedly” and couched in terms of “intellegence agencies gathering information involving the Trump campaign and Russia”, they go with this pull quote from the lawyer to explain the whole thing:
Believed it was accurate? He intentionally switched an email from “was an asset of the CIA” to “was not an asset of the CIA” in an email from the CIA, then sent that to the court as proof that he was not working with the CIA. How the hell could you possibly argue that you thought that information was accurate?
This is a big story. This is “Watergate burglars plead guilty” level of a story… probably times 1,000. And they are downplaying it as hard as possible.
Compare and contrast with other stories the news has covered for the DNC. Remember the evil Trump supporter who accosted the nice, peaceful Native American Elder? That was saturation coverage, wall to wall, even after full video came out completely debunking the story. They even ran stories explaining how it was still an outrage even after the video came out – in fact, it was racist to even care what the context was.
Compare and contrast with Jussie Smollete. Why do you even know that guy’s name? Again, wall to wall coverage of a story so ludicrous that half of the people on this board were calling it out as a hoax within hours of the first publication of the full account. Yet, even after the conspiracy and conspirators are revealed, there are those on the left who still pretend that it is true. Or worse, that it is a lie that reveals the truth. And tons of coverage.
Michael Flynn was illegally spied on by the Obama administration. Then he was set up for prosecution anyway after the FBI failed to find “any derogatory information” about him after months of trying. The top of the administration – Obama, Biden, Comey, etc. were all present when they ordered that he be set up and prosecuted anyway. This is all documented – not wild speculation. The DOJ moved to toss out his guilty plea because of the violations they uncovered in his case. And a bunch of partisans in the judiciary are blocking the withdrawal of the plea deal – even though everyone acknowledges that there is no legal basis to do so. They just had a ludicrously long multi-hour en banc hearing of the circuit court, desperately trying to find a way to salvage the plan to force Trump into a pardon. (really, it was must see TV. These giants of legal thought bandied about hypotheticals including nuns with bags of cash in order to find a way to excuse the actions of the FBI in their various Brady violations in the case, as well as judge Sullivan’s bizarre assertion that Flynn should be prosecuted for perjury for pleading guilty to a crime he did not commit, and that the judge should be able to appoint his own prosecutor to pursue those charges.
Nothing in the press about any of this.
But the USPS is downsizing in the face of a 1/3 drop in mail volume since 2006… and that’s obviously a conspiracy by Trump to steal the election? And deserving of wall-to-wall coverage on every network, in every paper? Even when it is so obviously invented out of whole cloth?
But how do you really feel about it?
Yeah, I’m pissed.
Not even at the media anymore. I’m pissed at my fellow citizens. I’m pissed at them because they have not said “enough” about any of this. I was surprised at how quickly we went from a country that used “Givf me your papers!” as a shorthand for totalitarian governments (that we would never tolerate here in the US) to a country that takes off its shoes and belts in order to travel by air.
I was shocked at how quickly we went from outrage over Vietnam and a determination that presidents would never have the power to act unilaterally to a country that doesn’t even notice when the President attacks another country, overthrowing the government and doesn’t even bother notifying congress, let alone getting any sort of declaration of war enacted.
But at least we lived in a country that had an aggressive 4th estate, a press dedicated to investigative journalism, a country that worshiped heroes like Woodward and Bernstein who helped bring down a president over an attempt to spy on the DNC by his campaign operatives.
Now I live in a country that not only doesn’t care about a national ID any more, I live in a country that doesn’t care that the President of the US used the FBI, CIA, DOJ and State department (as well as the IRS) to go after political rivals, and even sabotaged the peaceful transfer of power after losing an election. I live in a country where the supposedly free press who value “speaking truth to power” and digging out the real story actually actively participated in disinformation campaigns being run out of the CIA and FBI designed to disrupt the transition team and then the new administration. And the 4th estate never broke ranks. They never picked up the mantle of Woodward and Bernstein and tried to ferret out the story. They still carry the water for the Obama administration. You have to go as far down the totem pole as John Solomon to find anyone willing to run stories about this topic.
It was understandable to me that the people of Moscow didn’t stand up to Khrushchev. People were shot or shipped off to prison in Siberia for merely writing something mildly critical. But the people of Seattle? Where are they? Their mayor allowed their city to be burned and held hostage for months. Where are the rest of the citizens? Why didn’t they throw the bum out?
On heartening point, the Atlanta DA who brought charges against the officers involved in shooting the DUI suspect who grabbed the Taser was defeated in his primary. So at least there is a modicum of a spine out there, however weak it may be.
Woodward and Bernstein is a myth though. The press hated Nixon, just like they hated all Republicans. The press jumped on board with FDR, and gradually purged all their right wing newspapers, radio, and TV outlets.
If Bobby Kennedy hadn’t been shot, and if he had won the 1968 election, Woodward and Bernstein would have been the Chroniclers of The Second Camelot, no matter what had happened.
I cannot tell you just how much the leftist control of the media has shaped the 20th century. It’s an incredibly powerful tool. What they cover and don’t cover literally changes the nations course, and the world.
But they believed the myth, at least for a while. They made movies about how the press fights corruption. So at least some of the new generation should have been steeped in that culture.
Instead, we get a media that would make the editors of Pravda blush.
They never really believed the myth, that was a con for the rubes. It wasn’t about taking down a corrupt government, it was about taking down Richard Nixon, who they hated. Shit, LBJ sicced the FBI on plenty of people, press never said a word about it.
My mother was a reporter, then an editor, for decades. They are partisan leftists, they just pretend not to be. Like, seriously, when you are reading a newspaper or watching a news show you are reading a partisan liberal Democrat’s thoughts. Treat every single newspaper and TV show like it’s The Nation or The New Republic.
I remember that, right after 9/11, I commented on a forum that our rights would be the most massive victims of the attack and that we had already lost. I was excoriated for saying that, AMERICA STRONG!
A few weeks later, Bush created DHS, made the decision to go beyond knocking off the Taliban, and our future path was set.
There’s no turning back. Our rights are gone. Permanently.
Good post.
GREAT post. It should be published as an article, and shared around the tubes.
Very much so
Indeed.
Aye, 9.5 out of 10.
Republicans suppress votes by not allowing the Demos to learn to read, its a fact (unfortunately the Repubs are also suppressing their own votes for the same reason)
Here’s the local take on the headline:
Ohio among states warned by U.S. Postal Service that mail-voting deadlines could disenfranchise voters
At least the first line in the article mentions that 46 of the states were warned.
BIRTHER II- hysterical boogaloo
Editor’s note, 8/14: This op-ed is being used by some as a tool to perpetuate racism and xenophobia. We apologize. The essay, by John Eastman, was intended to explore a minority legal argument about the definition of who is a “natural-born citizen” in the United States. But to many readers, the essay inevitably conveyed the ugly message that Senator Kamala Harris, a woman of color and the child of immigrants, was somehow not truly American.
The op-ed was never intended to spark or to take part in the racist lie of Birtherism, the conspiracy theory aimed at delegitimizing Barack Obama, but we should have recognized the potential, even probability, that that could happen. Readers hold us accountable for all that we publish, as they should; we hold ourselves accountable, too. We entirely failed to anticipate the ways in which the essay would be interpreted, distorted and weaponized.
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Were Harris’ parents lawful permanent residents at the time of her birth? If so, then under the actual holding of Wong Kim Ark, she should be deemed a citizen at birth—that is, a natural-born citizen—and hence eligible. Or were they instead, as seems to be the case, merely temporary visitors, perhaps on student visas issued pursuant to Section 101(15)(F) of Title I of the 1952 Immigration Act? If the latter were indeed the case, then derivatively from her parents, Harris was not subject to the complete jurisdiction of the United States at birth, but instead owed her allegiance to a foreign power or powers—Jamaica, in the case of her father, and India, in the case of her mother—and was therefore not entitled to birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment as originally understood.
Newsweek is in dire jeopardy of being cast into the wilderness, if they keep this up.
How dare they provide a platform for vile racism and misogyny? Looking behind the curtain is verboten.
It’s kind of weird that things that happened before (or at the moment of) one’s birth determine something as important as citizenship. That’s why I thought all the noise about Obama’s citizenship was dumb: even if he technically wasn’t, he was raised by Americans and spoke American English without an accent, and the American people were dumb enough to vote for the guy. I do think something like Harris having gone to high school in frickin’ French Canadia should be a bit of a black mark for the same reason. Technically she was born on the right side of the dotted line, but later she did some furriner shit.
Technically she was born on the right side of the dotted line
Matrilineal, just like (((them))).
There was never even a hint of possibility that Obama technically was not a natural born citizen. His mother is a citizen, so even being born in Kenya would not mean he was not a citizen. It was stupid.
But it was not racist. Nor was it limited to some Republican plot, as people suggest. First, it was started by the HRC campaign. But beyond that, it was in no way unique to Obama. There were questions raised about John McCain being a natural born citizen. He was born in Panama, when his father was stationed there. There were claims that he was therefore not a “natural born citizen” for purposes of being president.
And Obama didn’t speak without an accent. He affected many accents when speaking. He did a faux-southern drawl combined with an impersonation of William F. Buckley to portray a folksy intellect. He did a sort of Atlanta-black accent when he wanted to affect blackness. He rarely spoke in his own voice, which is kind of halting and stuttering and vaguely hints of New England.
I never really followed the birther thing closely, mostly because I figured the legitimacy of it didn’t matter one way or the other.
My limited understanding of the issue is that it’s believed Obama renounced his American citizenship by applying to college as an international student in order to improve his chances of acceptance.
I’m quite certain the birther thing was a red herring that was enthusiastically (and successfully) nourished by the Donks to keep the attention on that instead of the various real problems with his history.
My main guess would be claiming foreign citizenship at some point in his college career.
His mother is a citizen, so even being born in Kenya would not mean he was not a citizen.
There’s additional requirements if tone is a non-US citizen
I believe there would have been an issue with his mother not meeting the time requirements if he was born overseas.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/Acquisition-US-Citizenship-Child-Born-Abroad.html
Sounds like intention to “spark or to take part in the racist lie of Birtherism” to me.
That idiot who wrote that doesn’t realize the clause had ONE purpose at the founding – keeping Hamilton from the Presidency.
Um…no…
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, …
As they struggle to salvage some semblance of a campus experience this fall, U.S. colleges are requiring promises from students to help contain the coronavirus — no keg parties, no long road trips and no outside guests on campus.
I fail to see where the “semblance” comes into play.
Homeschooling FTW. Parents should teach their kids to drink at home (seriously, knowing how much you can handle is essential).
“We should be more like Europe. No, NOT THAT.”
It’s actually against the law in NJ to serve underage kids in your own home. This was an added bonus, helped to give my spawn a healthy disrespect for “law”.
Bonkers. I learned to drink in Germany when I was 16. After I got back to the US my mom had no problem with the occasional drink. I still got drunk in college a few times but that was my choice 🙂
Yeah, “know your limits” is one of those key things on our list of stuff to make sure the kids know. #1 is “win” and #2 is “always have a knife” – and there’s also stuff on there about making sure a plunger is always in arm’s reach of the toilet. Anyway, as stereotypical homeschoolers, I can tell you that except for the teetotaller friends, making sure your teenagers know how to drink without losing control is a pretty common strategy, though normies might not expect it.
We are those parents. We teach them the real affects of alcohol not just what they see on youtube or TV.
Usually the lesson is brought about in a game of Kings Cup. Not one teenager has a desire to drink beyond one beer at this time in their lives.
OBE’s parenting guru.
Excellent. The Hoff is a legend.
We’re moving my daughter in on Monday. She will be living in a dorm, with a roommate, just like normal. The school appears to be working hard to make the experience as good as possible, but we’ll see.
Same with my son, only we moved in last week.
Yesterday was the last day of move-in for us (classes start Monday). One of my colleagues went by this place about 6 pm yesterday, which is one of the popular student hangouts. She said it was packed shoulder to shoulder, indoors, not a mask in sight.* I think we will be back on remote instruction by labor day, which is frustrating considering that I have spent 12-15 hours every week since april (in addition to my regular job) trying to figure out how to keep some classes on campus BECAUSE STUDENTS SAID THAT’S WHAT THEY WANTED.
We have made all our dorm bedrooms single-occupancy (most of them were already), so students have suite-mates but have their own bedroom. I think the final numbers were about 4K students actually checked in, which would be about 84% occupancy. One building is set aside for quarantine, and we have another 10 apartments at an off-campus research station we can use for quarantine if we need to.
*I have my own skepticism about whether mask-wearing matters in a lot of settings, and frankly the evidence for outdoor transmission is somewhere between zero and \epsilon. But (a) indoors, like in a bar, (b) for extended periods of time, (c) packed like sardines, is one setting where they might be of some help.
Same here, moving my son in tomorrow. 3 roommates (two bedroom suite). I wonder what will happen when (not if) a few kids test positive.
Nice fancy formatting indeed.
Oh, zatso? C’mon – dish! ::settles back, sips her iced coffee latte:: (Speaking of which, that drink does sound yummy. Alas, no rum in the house. Nor any alcohol except my paltry stash of wine…which I would NOT mix with coffee in any form.)
Also, you & Mrs. Festus besties now? ; )
Put it this way, Hype was sloppy thirds.
Don’t wanna go OT so soon, BUT…
I finally got a reprint of the original run of The Question by Steve Ditko. His alter ego is TV news reporter Vic Sage. One of the stories I’ve read has people protesting to get him fired and execs at his TV station scheming to get him off the air. What kind of content does Vic Sage produce? Some very Stosselesque stuff:
(Steve Ditko was a pal of Ayn Rand if you couldn’t guess.)
IIRC, Razorfist has spoken about Mr. A as being the progenitor of The Question and both of them heavily influencing Moore’s Rorsach from Watchmen.
Yeah, Ditko made Mr A first, he was more good/evil no in between and every evil offense called for death. And Moore’s original plan was to use the characters DC had just bought from Charlton (The Question and Blue Beetle specifically) to form the watchmen, but there was still some kind of rights issue or something so The Question became Rorschach and Blue Beetle became Night Owl.
From what I read, Moore wrote Watchmen with the Charlton comics characters. Then DC read it, and realized that killing off (and making them really dark) most of the characters they just acquired would not be a good idea for sales (sorry… spoilers for a 30+ year old comic). So they changed the names, and identities to protect their investment.
I’m also still surprised that CW hasn’t pitched a Question TV series yet. It seems right in their DC wheelhouse, wouldn’t be that expensive (compared to the other superhero shows), and has already been legacied into multiple choices for who the Question is (including a female of color).
I was all excited once when Arrow went to Hub City ‘to meet an old friend’ then I was disappointed when it didn’t turn out to be The Question.
Some further research shows that they wanted to use the Question on the TV shows, but there were plans for a movie. Which was the same reason they had to shelve the Suicide Squad in Arrow. Somewhat related, the first season of Stargirl is pretty damned good (and free to stream on CW’s site, if you can deal with the terrible, terrible commercials).
I wonder why DC just had a massive round of lay-offs…
I watched Star Girl as aired on the CW. It was ok. Odd that they felt the need to sexualize 15 year old girls, interesting that the villains goals aligned with those of the
propagandistsprotagonists, but it was the method to achieve the goals was the clash, never a questioning of the goals themselves.I had heard WB wanted to use The Question in another capacity, but never that their was a movie in the works.
LOL, the one I’m reading now calls out the UN for being a scam. I lurv me some Ditko.
On Covid-19. Is it possible we know less than we think about it? And the less we know, and the more it’s amped up makes me really wonder what is going on.
Some interesting points brought up.
https://theinfectiousmyth.com/book/CoronavirusPanic.pdf
I’m completely confused on what is happening. This fog of war smells like tear gas and patchouli.
Oscar Peterson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCrrZ1NnCuM
The formatting this morning is beautiful. I didn’t mean to put you on the spot, and I certainly don’t want to detract from the other wonderful link-crafters, but SP links are so easy on the eyes.
They have design – shorter lines of text, plenty of white space. Even the visual arrangement and sizes of the boxes add to the effect – not rigidly symmetrical but balanced. Two thumbs up!
Needs more blink text.
::DDGs “blink text”:: Oooh! Now I want the site to have blink text for comments! I wanna see if I can hypmotize y’all!
There was a beautiful day back at TOS, when it was discovered that blinking and colored text could be implemented in one’s comments. It was sheer, delicious, epileptic anarchy until the ability was stripped away.
And the image tag… don’t forget the image tag!
That was the real trigger for The Exodus, wasn’t it?
But ‘cept we don’t have it here, I guess, or surely many Glibgeeks would be using the bejeebers out of it. : (
The old days were great.
Handles were ephemeral… you could post as anything. So you could make a joke and have Hillary Clinton post in response to a story about Madeline Albright “She’s hot!”
Inline images worked from time to time – and we’d go nuts with jokes using that. It was pure chaos.
Then the serious civil liberties / criminal justice reform crows would go over to “The Agitator” and talk seriously about the outrage of the day, with upvotes to reward posts that didn’t really need a response, insightful stuff like “I don’t like it when police shoot people for no reason”.
Then they locked down handles and I was lazy that day and got stuck as Cyto, kinda like playing musical chairs.
I want frames, with green borders and yellow fill. And lots of blinking text.
CNN, after an exhaustive search, digs up a Republican concern troll
First came the Newsweek opinion piece “Some Questions for Kamala Harris About Eligibility,” which made its way through the pro-Trump echo chamber, including a Trump campaign aide, up to — inevitably — the President himself. At Thursday’s news conference, the President gave another variation on his “many people are saying” theme. “But that’s a very serious… you’re saying that, they’re saying that she doesn’t qualify because she wasn’t born in this country,” the President incorrectly said.
I did not expect that the Oakland-born Harris would be subject to a reprise of the “birther” attacks used to falsely question Barack Obama’s legitimacy. But having had a front row seat to watch what my party has devolved into over the past decade, maybe I should not have been surprised.
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All of those anecdotes have a common thread. For a Panamanian-born John McCain, the son of a Mexican-born father Mitt Romney and the Canadian-born Ted Cruz — no problem. But for the first Black President, and now for the first Black nominee for vice president, the signal is clear: they’re not “one of us.” They don’t belong here. It’s been a time-tested refrain, one my first political boss, Jesse Helms, used successfully. But those days should be long gone.
Perhaps Trump and his supporters would have ended up here eventually. The political landscape is vastly different today than where it was pre-Covid-19 — when a strong economy had Democrats scared that four more years for Trump might have been a foregone conclusion. But with more than 167,000 Americans dead from Covid-19, 10% unemployment, 70% of the country believing America is on the wrong track and more than half of voters disapproving of the President’s handling of the pandemic, the campaign playbook had to be re-written. So, we’re back to Trump’s “greatest hits,” as it were.
Meanwhile, like animals scurrying before an earthquake, Republicans are making plans for a post-Trump party. That’s smart, but the party may still be defined by Trump and many may view all Republicans as eager to pick at every scab that divides us as a country and the Trump era as a stain on the party’s soul. Minority voters may be lost to Republican voters for yet another generation — something that as states like Texas potentially become battlegrounds, Republicans up and down the ballot can ill afford.
Yes, yes, of course. Despite the Democrats’ best efforts to unite the nation and bring us all together in a new era of racial and social harmony, President Cartoon Villain and his dastardly minions will stop at nothing to foment dissension and discord. Haters, one and all.
It’s a dadgum tragedy, it is.
Keep yer rain barrels handy. There’s gonna be a flood of liberal tears early November.
Wait. Wasn’t there serious discussion of McCain’s eligibility?
Yes, and Romney’s and Cruz’s…but that was only turn-about you see, for the birtherism that
Hillary supporterGOP Plant started.Is it a respiratory illness? Are these outliers? More fear porn?
https://ca.yahoo.com/news/covid-19-long-haulers-debilitating-symptoms-210633981.html
Yes x 3
Obviously death is not working as the prime fear.
Posted a couple times about these books this week – just tweeted some more pics – this shitpost book is exactly what I was looking for right now – and very funny.
https://www.etsy.com/shop/studionj
Dereliction of duty
While it could take weeks to see the effects of the lapse in aid, progressive economists in particular are raising alarms about the potential toll on unemployed Americans and those who depend on them.
“Let’s get money back into the economy. Let’s get it back into the pockets of working people in this country. They will pay their bills, they will spend it, and they will keep a roof over their family’s head and feed themselves,” said Michelle Holder, an economics professor at John Jay College.
Democrats, seeking to step up pressure on Republicans to budge, have made similar arguments.
“We can’t wait until Sept. 30,” Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said this week of talks on a new coronavirus relief package, “because people will die.”
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“People do have a disagreement about a likely recovery. I do not share the optimism about a fast recovery that some conservative politicians seem to have,” said Glenn Hubbard, former chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisors under George W. Bush, during a Friday panel appearance.
Hubbard added that he was “mystified” that lawmakers were unable to strike a deal given the threats facing the economy.
While markets are high, that is partly because they priced in a new relief package they assumed that Congress would pass.
Instead, the Senate left Washington, D.C., on Thursday. Neither chamber will return until after Labor Day.
Alix Gould-Werth, director of family economic security policy at the Washington Center for Equitable Growth, a progressive think tank, said the danger is that as people with less money cut expenses, the pandemic of joblessness will spread.
“Unemployment, just like the virus, is a contagious thing,” she said.
People will die? Of what? Starvation? Malaise?
Maybe “we” should not have destroyed the economy based on preposterously wrong computer models and shoddy science fair projects.
The fuck?
So… open everything back up with no restrictions?
Panama Canal gained independence, Napoleon was born, robc was born.
Also Charlie Commisky.
So you’re saying…?
Also Blind Jack Metcalf. What a legend.
Happy birthday, robc!
Figured someone as cool as you would be a Leo.
Not sure what astronomy figures into it but Happy Birthday, RobbyC
????
Happy Birfday.
It’s a little early, but Prosit! ???
Happy Birthday!
Yay! Happy birthday!!!
Happy birthday!!
Good morning, SP!
Those are some sexy, sexy lynx. Too bad they are so rotten on the inside.
Oh well, I hope the Old Man and Spud make tomorrow’s lynx. Even at their advanced ages, they should be able to muster up a little mischief!
That cocktail actually looks terrific! Perfect for enjoying while listening to Oscar and The Count do what they do. Damn.
I hope each and every one of you has a wonderful day. I will be leaving shortly with Spawn 1 to hike up to a beautiful alpine lake and see if we can fool a few trout.
Spud and I will be in no condition to even comment. We’re picking up where we left off, except now we’re a fuckton older.
Savor those hangovers. It means you are still alive!
Did you fly or drive?
Flew.
We literally have not had a sober moment since I got here. A couple California wines so far- a Ridge Montebello and an old Heitz were delightful. A Ridge Jimsomare from ‘85 had the aroma and flavor of a refrigerator drawer with rotting cabbage in it. The Condrieus made up for it.
Herd Immunity May Be Slowing Spread in U.S., As Study Finds 40 Percent Community Infection Provides Protection
It’s almost as if we took minor precautions with the vulnerable and everyone else lived their lives normally we’d be past this by now…
If only there were some locations that had tried it that way. You know, places we could look to as an example.
The funniest thing about 2020 might be progressives dropping their WE SHOULD DO WHAT SWEDEN DOES!!!!!11111 rallying cry.
That’s actually an excellent point. I didn’t even think of that aspect.
So basically what everyone who can do math has been saying from the beginning.
And-
Battles over further aid to state and local governments could also weigh heavily on the future of public sector workers. The steep drop in tax revenues and the rising costs of the pandemic could force state and local governments to cut essential services and workers who run them to keep their budgets balanced. State and local governments have already shed 1.5 million workers since the pandemic began, according to the Labor Department, and the toll will likely get steeper without further aid.
Democrats have proposed giving hundreds of millions of dollars for state and local governments, an unpopular prospect among Republicans who see it as a bailout for irresponsible local officials. It appears to be a particular sticking point for Trump, who has repeatedly railed against it.
“Many state and local governments are mismanaged and they’re certainly right to be concerned about the federal government bailing out mismanaged states and local governments,” Strain said.
“But even the best managed states are suffering revenue losses this year and next year,” he added.
To be sure, many of those states may have made some unfortunate decisions in the past, but we cannot in good conscience allow noble public servants to be cast out into the street with nothing to fall back on! They might have to try to find real jobs, and that would be humiliating and tragic.
“Essential services” my eye.
Not “hundreds of millions” either. They are asking for an extra $2 trillion. Trillion with a T. We’ve already passed out more than double the annual budget in just a couple of months. Now they want another entire annual budget for another couple of months?
Yeah the motte and bailey is they are saying “shortfalls” but what they really mean is “pension fund bailouts.” Like, VA has a shortfall of 3 billion for a 2 year budget. Most states are in pretty similar situations. IL is 6 billion short for this cycle. But they well over 100 billion in unfunded pension liabilities.
If Biden wins, they will use the pandemic to bail out the IL, CA, NY, and NJ state worker pension funds with federal tax dollars under the guise of pandemic relief.
Vote Biden to hasten the collapse of the house of cards?
Nothing succeeds like failure. And failure’s no success at all.
Trump folds on this and it really is Game Over, Man.
https://mobile.twitter.com/fiacrackah85/status/1294576791378694145
Cool
I was waiting for it to shit on one of them. I am dissapoint.
Neat-o.
Any business that can’t radically restructure and bankrupt itself in ten days doesn’t deserve to exist.
I don’t see how that law can possibly withstand “equal protection” scrutiny.
They carved it out when they wrote it, and still unintentionally smacked a bunch of industries – including the entertainment industry – that use loads of independent contractors. So they just went back and added more carve-outs.
How in the hell is a law that says “These two companies that exist only as a conduit for independent contractors must convert to full time employees” at all even plausibly constitutional?
Thomas Massie was on Tom Woods’ podcast yesterday.
He’s absolutely amazing. Some great insight on the ‘vid, on food production and Tesla. Highly recommended.
That was a good show, best Woods show I’ve heard in a while.
Bookmarked. I’d vote for Massie, but not in the right jurisdiction. Unless he runs for higher office…
I once lived in the county where Massie is from. I didn’t know him, but probably because he was a little kid then.
Nice that we at least have 2 libertarians left in Congress, after Amash turned out to be a fraud.
Only pol in the world I have any respect for
Rand Paul?
From LJW’s link:
“If non-pharmaceutical interventions are very strict, no herd immunity is achieved, and infections will then resurge if they are eased too quickly.”
No kidding, Shirley?
Throw that mask away. Go outdoors in the sunshine where people congregate, and breathe.
I have been thinking about this. Vaccines are basically an introduction of “tame” virus into the system so the body can create antibodies, right? It seems to that exposing yourself to dispersed, low-dose samples of the virus achieves the same effect. No evil pharmaceutical company required.
Yeah, it doesn’t really work that way.
If the virus enters your cells, it creates copies of itself until the cell explodes, dispersing more virus to infect your other cells and killing the initial cell. You are now infected. And infected you will remain until either your body learns to kill off and block the virus or until the virus kills off all the cells that it can infect.
Vaccines used to use “live attenuated virus” to create immunity. These damaged viruses were not capable of reproduction, but would infect cells so the cells could present antigen in the normal way and prime the immune system. That is the key – presenting antigens (pieces of the virus that the body can recognize) to the immune system in a way that promotes an antibody response that will clear the virus from your system, blocking any infection.
Now, if we had been at all smart, we would have locked everyone over 60 away for a month and sent all the kids to school and everyone to work as normal. The virus would have run rampant through schools and through the younger workforce. Very few of them would have been seriously ill. And the virus would have burned itself out.
Sweden explicitly used this strategy – except they forgot to protect the old people. It worked at stopping the disease. Their deaths are bad – but not the worst in the world. And they didn’t protect the old folks. They are like New York, except New York quasi shut down after the fact, something the media is heaping praise on them for. Basically, for doing everything wrong and getting the worst of both worlds. But at least they reached a level where the virus doesn’t spread exponentially.
Again, if we had a functioning 4th estate, someone would have been asking this question of Faucci 4 or 5 months ago. Instead, they ask “hey, could you say something critical about President Trump?” And so we continue, with nobody even examining the possibility that we could get out of this mess quickly if we quit doing everything wrong.
Try and tell the public now to go along with that strategy.
That’s how much we fucked up.
It’s stunning ONE country played it right.
Yesterday, when we were walking past a styling salon, my wife says ‘those people in there aren’t using masks’. I said ‘Hush, Karen’. She looked at me sort of mean like, but that was the end of that.
Great links, SP, morning rage pairs well with coffee. And I love me some Oscar. When #2 son gets frustrated while rehearsing a difficult piano piece I remind him that Peterson practiced 6 hours a day.
There are links?
https://mobile.twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1294378222839357440
“The Radical Left is creating new Trump voters.”
???
(Most) Left wing people don’t like riots either.
The mental jujitsu they are doing is to blame the riots that they don’t like on Trump.
It really is brilliant.
I’ll believe it when I see it. Seattle will still vote blue and fall further into ruin.
Good thing she didn’t try to interview Q.
Bah to coconut. Bah I say!
Needs moar lime.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbgv8PkO9eo
Bah to coconut. Bah I say!
That’s crazy talk!
Truly coconut’s highest calling.
I say unto you! BAH!
It’s not even the texture, it’s the taste. The foul, foul taste of coconut.
Shredded coconut, I loved that stuff, still enjoy coconut in eating form. Once in awhile my mom would buy a hard shell coconut, let us drill out the eyes, drink the water, use a hammer and crack that baby open and eat the innards. Miss those days but pas me another piece of that coconut frosted cake though, wodja?
Holy….shit….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRJItU0YJ7I
Who the hell is that?
“In a shocking piece of news, investigative reporter Millie Weaver and her husband were arrested at their home. The arrest comes in the wake of her documentary release on the topic of the US “shadow government” which was all set to be screened on YouTube as she had teased in her last tweet.”
“When reporter Spiro Skouras tried getting in touch with the Portage County Sheriff’s Office, they confirmed Weaver is in their custody and said that she was served a secret indictment. Currently, she is being charged for tampering with evidence, obstruction of justice, and domestic violence. ”
Secret indictment?
https://meaww.com/millie-weaver-shadow-gate-arrest-go-fund-me-page-why-20000-dollar-goal-documentary-trump-supporter
A different perspective:
http://idavox.com/index.php/2020/08/14/next-on-the-neo-fascist-chopping-block-infowars-millie-weaver-husband/
She is a neo-fascist who worked for info-wars.
Nobody in the press seems to even acknowledge her existence. A news search on her name comes up empty. She seems to only exist in the world of internet tribes. There isn’t even a local news story about the arrest yet.
Publicity stunt? Real? Fake?
Does the shadow ban extend from Twitter and Facebook to the newspapers and TV news?
Is she actually a neofascist or just a person who’s just been accused of being a neofascist?
The fact that a search of her name only comes up with fringe blogs makes me suspect the entire story as a publicity stunt of some sort. It is right in the Info Wars wheelhouse to spin a traffic stop into an international conspiracy.
Local “Grand Jury” and “I don’t know what this could possibly be about” don’t usually mix. It would mean that she’s the target of a grand jury investigation, in which case she’d know, or she was the side-show in some grand jury investigation and they want her for other reasons.
The cop says “burglary”. The Millie Weaver page claims other stuff and secret indictments. It is written as if it is a news story written by an independent voice. But it is published on MeaWW.com, which appears to be an entertainment website.
Seems sketchy.
According to this source:
https://www.hagmannreport.com/millie-weaver-indicted-arrested-for-process-crimes/
The arrest was pursuant to a grand jury in Ohio, not local to Texas.
Also… what is a “neofascist”?
In the eyes of the left? Anyone who opposes their agenda, whatever their agenda is.
In my eyes? Elizabeth Warren.
In this case it means “she was at the Charlottesville massacre as a journalist for Info Wars and she argued with an antifa protester”.
Antifa
Anti-fascist.
It is right there in the name. She wouldn’t have been arguing with them if she wasn’t a fascist, now would she?
WTF? nice cop though……
thicc?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8628323/Demi-Rose-looks-ethereal-white-silk-dress-cuddles-pet-pooch.html
Nope. Svelte waist.
I guess it’s ethereal white dress day.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8629821/Malin-Akerman-looks-ethereal-flowing-white-maxi-dress-visits-friends-Los-Feliz.html
Because, hey, let’s have the government throw even more people out of work.
Those weren’t real jobs, so they didn’t lose anything. You know, no minimum wage, benefits, etc.
Maher’s uncomfortable. Good.
Yang to Maher:
Because it’s true?
I see he’s still living in the nineties.
Yang’s premise is that the Democrats should be speaking for them, fighting for them, listening to their concerns. The Democrats don’t care about the deplorables because they plan to neuter the deplorables politically through immigration and indoctrination. They don’t even bother hiding it.
Yup. The Dems are just too good and pure to represent bigots, fascists, and the other knuckle dragging mouth breathers who haven’t boarded the woke train.
Why cater to them when you can crush them under your boot?
You would think they would’ve learned from the Republicans – keep talking about small govt even as you grow it.
Got my schedule for Sept., I’ll have to use some vacation days to make it to Honey Harvest. You Minny-soda glibs better make it worth my time.
Will the details be forthcoming soon to the e-mail list? It might be a two-day trip for us (don’t know where in MN it is,) so I don’t know if I can sweet-talk Tom T into it, but if there’s a possibility of obtaining otherwise unobtainable ammo we could use…
Hi GT, we’re about 140 miles north on Mpls, about 2 1/2 hours.
Email me: latvia2112 at the yayho, use Cabin in the subject . Tundra is available but he’s out of pocket today. Hope you can make it, it’ll offset the NoDaks and bring a little civility to what otherwise may turn into a discussion about the tree in NoDak
Thanks, 4(20)!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! ::struggles to regain composure:: Why, thank you, good sir. Happy to provide a role model for impeccable behavior. ::snickers::
For ten years Tom T & I hosted a Labor Day weekend-long jam session at the country place his family used to have in the kneehills of the Mozarks. ‘Round this time of year, I suspect he gets nostalgic for that. It was great – only got serious rain once – but it finally got too big to be relaxing fun, and then his family sold the place. We’ve been able to revisit, as there’s a family cemetery plot on the property, and the new owner has been gracious in allowing us to come see the barn-size “cabin” that’s the centerpiece of the place. Last time we were there, he’d changed almost nothing, retaining it’s magical charm.
So…ummm…would it be frowned upon if Tom T happened to bring a guitar or three? I’d try to ride herd on him to keep him under some semblance of control.
Tundra is in charge of that, so I’m not sure how reliable the e-mails will be (HYO!)
But I too am waiting on the email list to figure out the details of the trip.
You can rest assured that the MN Glibs are entertaining, in a cruel, sadistic way. Hoping your appearance will encourage an entourage of like minded and we’ll have a great experience, except for me, I’ll be working. There will be a few more than the MNs, thank dog, so it won’t seem so bad.
Great to get the news, CP, we’ll live down to your expectations. Honey Harvest is dependent on the guests and the food makers. Only 5 weeks to go, we’ll be checking the bees today, optimistic but life goes on, (ir)regardless of what the bees do. Hope your vacation days are paid, though.
Yes, they are, otherwise I wouldn’t be worried about the value, you old coot! I’m looking forward to it.
Also, if you’re looking for me to start a trend, I got some bad news for you…
Apologies to JB, but I’m going to say that in one area Orange Man is doing the right thing. He wants to ease the restrictions on flow rate of showerheads. The reactions have been predictable, but what interests me more is that I recall this being a pet issue of Rand Paul’s. Does he still have the president’s ear? Or is this just a cheeto-dusted brain turd shat out by 45 himself.
The current Chief of Staff was Rand’s campaign manager, I believe. So I’m guessing Rand is still in the game.
It’s a strange pairing but they seem to actually like each other. I think Paul still has his ear to some extent.
Rand has a bill that would have all currently budgeted federal education funding transform into money directly to the parents. Trump was talking about it last week, said if the schools are closed the parents should get the money.
Of course the quisling GOP won’t push that. Use political power to cut the single biggest funding source of the Democratic Party? Nah, if we did that we might actually win elections more often, and then what would happen?
Once you realize that the Republicans are all about graft and being the controlled opposition, not all but most, it all starts to make sense.
This is one of the areas that Federalism is supposed to address.
Covid has really pointed out the impossibility of governance at the national level. The needs of different areas of the country for covid have been vastly different. While New York was giving everyone in their nursing homes Covid, Montana had yet to meet anyone who had covid. It really points out the size of the country and the different needs of different areas.
Southern California is built in a desert. They have huge water problems. So much so that they bring water down from the north, causing water problems there. Conserving fresh water is a huge deal in California and throughout the southwest.
In Minnesota, Wisconsin, etc. across the north, there is no such problem. They have fresh water coming out of their ears. Down here in florida, we have more water than you can shake a stick at, but we still manage to have trouble with our water supply because there’s nowhere to keep a big bucket of water – the entire southern half of the state being flat as a pancake.
So different areas have different needs. Forcing someone who lives on the shores of the largest body of fresh water on the planet to buy water conserving toilets and shower heads is just plain stupid. Everyone in the entire Duluth metropolitan area could leave their water running 24/7 and it would have no effect on their water supply.
Fresh water is an inherently local problem. Conserving water in Chicago Illinois has no effect on the supply of water in California at all. Chicago has this really, really big natural reservoir of fresh water (lake Michigan). They couldn’t drain it on a bet. Los Angeles has probably 80% more people than the area can sustain – so they have to draw water from all over the region. Of course they need to conserve. They probably don’t do nearly enough.
This is why a national policy on this is stupid.
Cyto, thanks for the effort you put into your posts. It is very much appreciated.
Agreed. Cyto teaches me a lot.
Ditto. Total hypocrite here, but totally would read cyto’s thoughts as standalone posts.
Agree
“Chicago business owner who spent $300,000 to repair his store after it was looted in May riots will sue the city after it was ransacked AGAIN last week – and slams cops for doing nothing”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8629519/Chicago-business-owner-plans-sue-city-looted-twice-May.html
Somalia annexed Illinois, apparently.
Who’s going to tell him that the police have no duty to do any of what he thinks they do?
I’m going to go with this guy:
act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on.
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/30/774788611/police-owe-nothing-to-man-whose-home-they-blew-up-appeals-court-says
Stupid touchpad.
https://www.nj.com/cape-may-county/2020/08/sea-turtle-rescued-from-circling-sharks-by-coast-guard-off-jersey-shore.html
sksksksksksksksks
And I oop.
Your tax dollars at work, depriving endangered shark species of their natural prey…..
“‘Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f*** things up’: Obama has shared private doubts about Biden’s 2020 chances claim insiders – as tensions grow over ex-president’s lack of support for Democrat candidate”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8630561/Dont-underestimate-Joes-ability-f-things-Obama-shares-private-doubts-former-VP.html
I don’t think i ever have Barak.
Powerline,
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/the-week-in-pictures-kamala-edition.php
I’m really just staying away from the news. It’s too depressing and I am angry. My shoulders are tense as hell. I’m clenching my jaw all the time. I can’t relax. Every time I go out and I’m inconvenienced I get pissed off not because I am inconvenienced, but because people are going along with this. To be fair, I am too, but only because I don’t want drama with Karens. It seems there are more Karens than normies, but maybe that’s an illusion—Karens are willing to pitch a fit. Squeaky wheel.
How is it a free society is okay with this bullshit?
I knew football would be proving ground, and it seems I was right, but along with that, women’s soccer and volleyball seem to be a big thing around here. Some school districts have banned sports and this is fucking with kids’ futures, and being someone who wants to launch her daughter successfully, that makes me unreasonably and disproportionately angry. Not my kid, right?
Naw. It’s just another way petty tyrants on city councils are getting their inner tyrant on.
So I delve into my creative pursuits (between books—gotta do something, man) and remain blissfully, willfully ignorant. I just can’t afford to walk around angry constantly. It’s affecting my body.
I’m pissed too.
My kids are losing out on a year. This is worse than the college kids. You only get to do 4th grade once. College, you can restructure. You can just work for the year if you want to. As adults… a year is nothing.
But for a kid? A year without athletics, music, and no unstructured play with classmates? The teachers had better really step up. Because another year like last spring will destroy a bunch of kids who are on the bubble.
My kids will be fine. The missus and I will beat them until they learn what they need – even if they don’t reach their potential the way the would otherwise have done. But our society will be paying for this for years. Middle school kids already barely learn anything as it is. Now you’ve given them an excuse? How are kids from marginal homes supposed to survive this without completely falling by the wayside.
And all in the name of “protecting the children” from covid. A virus that quite notably does not harm children to any great degree.
The colleges are not helping though, even though they are a different beast. When you have the head of the Big 10 saying they cannot hold sports this fall because of the serious health risks to their students, it has an effect. It is nonsense. There is no medical basis for it. But now all of the youth sports leagues have to follow their lead. And all of the school boards have to follow their lead for school sports, or they look like monsters who just want kids to die! (cue the Remey song)
I’m about half way through ShadowGate on YT. I am trying to finish it before it gets deleted. It’s worse than Plandemic vids on Bitchute.
I feel like wrapping myself in tinfoil and going back to bed until November.
80 days (assuming no postponement.) Got a spreadsheet counting it down.
Abolish history
With internet rumors of a looming conflict between an anti-government militia, white supremacist rally-goers and counter-protesters, Georgia state officials said Stone Mountain Park, famed for its huge rock carving of Confederate leaders, will be closed to the public on Saturday.
The Three Percenters militia had applied last month to hold a more than 2,000-strong rally “to defend and protect our history and second Amendment rights” on Aug. 15 at the park northeast of Atlanta. The application was denied by state officials, who cited violence at a similar event in 2016.
But several online groups, including one dubbed “Defending Stone Mountain,” vowed to march in the park anyway and asked participants to come with Confederate and U.S. flags. Another group, the Atlanta Antifacists, vowed to hold a counter-protest.
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Stone Mountain Park, which draws more than 4 million visitors a year to its sprawling 3,200 acres of woods and trails and amusements, is home to the largest monument to America’s Civil War Confederacy.
Park authorities have faced renewed calls for the removal of its nine-story-high bas-relief sculpture of Confederate leaders since the May 25 death of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man, at the hands of Minneapolis police.
Floyd’s killing helped revive a long-simmering conflict between groups seeking to abolish Confederate statues and sculptures, which they see as pro-slavery symbols, and those who believe they honor the traditions and history of the South.
If we just blow that rock face up, the world will learn to live in peace and harmony.
-1 Bamiyan Buddhas
It someone had told me then we’d be seeing similar behavior in this country I’d have told them they were nuts. How times change and not always for the better.
I like the heckler’s veto wielded by the left. If they attack a bunch of demonstrators, future demonstrations on this topic can be denied because of violence. If they burn buildings throughout the city, they cannot be confronted. Because violence.
It really is an interesting bit of doublethink we have going there.
And I’m not even a journalismist.
DEATH stalks the landscape
Roger Penske has reversed course and decided not to allow fans at the Indianapolis 500 later this month.
The 104th running of “The Greatest Spectacle in Racing” will be the first without spectators, who showed up at Indianapolis Motor Speedway every year, even during the Great Depression.
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As part of the plan introduced two weeks ago for 25% of fan capacity, spectators who had purchased badges that granted them access to the garage and pit lane was going to be permitted, as well as infield access. Although the speedway, which can hold at least 350,000 spectators, has the space for social distancing, Penske did not want to put fans or competitors at risk.
The situation was compounded last week when IU Health, the state’s largest health care system and a partner of Indianapolis Motor Speedway, said it opposed fans attending the 500.
“Until we sustain better control of this virus and its spread,” IU Health said in a statement, “we strongly encourage IMS to consider an alternative to running the Indy 500 with fans in August.”
The letter blindsided speedway officials, who had worked with health officials on the comprehensive safety plan that included mandatory wearing of masks at all times inside the speedway.
IU Health said it “appreciates” the speedway’s safety plan, but risks remained too high to host a large cluster of fans.
“We have concerns about the risks of infection beyond the scope of the IMS plan, including social gatherings, travel, restaurants, bars, accommodations and other event-related activities,” IU Health said. “This could lead to a spike in COVID-19 infections as we continue to see cases and hospitalizations increase every day.”
Yeah. Everybody is going to die. We cannot prioritize profits over people.
So fucking tired of this.
Sounds like Penske’s being a wuss. As the article points out, there’s room to limit crowd size and social distance at the venue, no problem.
Oh well, When we lose Indy, we are done as a nation,
I terrorize, therefor I am special
If the United States allowed coronavirus infections to run rampant to achieve possible herd immunity, the death toll would be massive, especially among vulnerable people, the nation’s top infectious doctor said.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, explained the risks during a live Instagram session.
“If everyone contracted it, even with the relatively high percentage of people without symptoms … a lot of people are going to die,” Fauci said.
At least 167,298 people have died in the US from coronavirus, Johns Hopkins University reported Friday.
“You look at the United States of America, with our epidemic of obesity as it were. With the number of people with hypertension. With the number of people with diabetes. If everyone got infected, the death toll would be enormous and totally unacceptable,” Fauci said.
Yes, of course, Foochy. A or B. Either we lock everybody down and force them to do the pigeon superstition rigamarole, or we allow the plague to run rampant, completely unfettered, through the entire population.
No one dies on Foochy’s watch. No one!
It’s a good thing Americans don’t follow the government’s food pyramid.
Went to check the music out, and Moobs was staring at me.
Did SF secretly do the lynx?
I’d like to thank you all for the hangover this morning! (when in doubt, blame others)