The Hat and The Hair: Episode 166

by | Aug 26, 2020 | Hat and Hair, SugarFree | 376 comments

 

Monday Morning

“Charlotte,” the hat snarled. “A shitty city in a shitty state. Why did we have to have the convention here?”

“Florida wanted Donald to wear a mask,” the hair said. He was sitting on the register in front of the hotel window, the gentle flow of air conditioning wafting through his nethers.

“I’ll take any excuse not to go to Jacksonville,” the hat said, pushing cold french fries around on the bedspread.

“Jacksonville is our base,” the hair said, “Our frosted tip, frozen margs, and sandalled base.”

They both heard Donald turn off the shower, and rip down the shower curtain as he got out of the tub, cursing.

“He really should have someone in there with him,” the hair said.

“You volunteering?”

The hair didn’t answer but moved to a new spot on the louvered exhaust of the AC, which was blowing recycled jizz dust from the bed.

“BETRAYED!” Donald screamed from the bathroom. “TRAITORED!”

“That’s not a word!” the hair yelled.

“What now?” the hat asked.

“Oh, shit,” the hair said.

“Oh, shit,” the hat said

Bumps and stumbles and muttered curses flowed through the thin bathroom wall.

“I thought you said we could get through the convention before he found out,” the hat hissed.

“You’re the one that let him take his phone in the bathroom!” the hair accused.

“You know he can’t take a shit without it!”

Donald came out of the bathroom in a thick POTUS robe he took everywhere. Once white, now stained and charred black in a number of places, Donald never let anyone wash it.

“BETRAYED!” he screamed.

“What? What happened?” the hair asked innocently.

“She’s leaving, she’s leaving!” Donald said, shuffling his feet on the carpet.

“Who’s leaving?” the hat asked in feigned concern.

“KELLYANNE!” Donald wailed.

“Which one is that?” the hat asked.

“The really old one,” the hair supplied.

“My sweet wrinkle baby,” Donald said sadly and plopped himself down on the bed, the frame creaking dangerously, flipping the hat off to the floor.

“She’s leaving to spend more time with her family,” the hair said, stifling a laugh.

“George?” Donald asked. “George?!? Who wants to spend more time with George?”

“Donald!” the hat said. “Hope is back. You still have Hope.”

“They don’t even let her come to the Oval Office to see me anymore,” Donald said petulantly.

“That’s her choice, Donald,” the hair told him.

“Lies,” Donald grumbled.

“It’s probably because the Oval Office smells like two monkeys have been fucking in there,” the hat said.

“I’ll never see her little crinkum-crankum again,” Donald moaned, “That honeyed tangle.”

“Maybe you should be practicing your speech,” the hair suggested.

“I’m too sad, just too sad,” he said, slumping forward.

“We can find you another old woman, Donald. Straw-like hair, hooker-witch make-up, fat husband, the whole experience, man,” the hair said.

“It won’t be the same,” Donald said, laying back on the bed. Outside, clouds began to boil across the sky.

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376 Comments

  1. The Late P Brooks

    “She’s leaving to spend more time with her family,” the hair said, stifling a laugh.

    “George?” Donald asked. “George?!? Who wants to spend more time with George?”

    *unstifled laugh*

  2. Tundra

    See, I thought ‘jizz dust’ was gonna win, but then:

    Outside, clouds began to boil across the sky.

    Talk about a solid close.

    Bravo, SF.

    • Suthenboy

      Agreed.

      • DEG

        #metoo

  3. DEG

    the gentle flow of air conditioning wafting through his nethers.

    Who has not done this?

    • Bobarian LMD

      That’s why they make the A/C so you can sit on it in the hotel, right?

  4. DEG

    “We can find you another old woman, Donald. Straw-like hair, hooker-witch make-up, fat husband, the whole experience, man,” the hair said.

    The hair is a good guy.

    • CPRM

      The Hair is Donald’s Fag Hag.

  5. Idle Hands

    I think this is the correct forum to discuss my Falwell position the dude took cucking to the next level not only does he get the in person viewing but now he get’s to get off on the whole country knowing he’s a cuck. So really for the people feeling sorry for him, don’t be he’s probably like the Edmund Hillary of cucks among the community.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I find this concept mightily amusing. Must be true.

    • DEG

      So… what you’re saying is, is there should be some videos on PornHub at some point?

      • Suthenboy

        I bet they are already there. I’ll take a hard pass. Anyone want to check them out and report back? Volunteers?

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        It’s all recorded from the ficus’s point of view, right in the center of the action.

      • DEG

        I found some uncensored Jerry Springer clips.

        Nothing Falwell related.

      • Rhywun

        Mmmm ?

      • Idle Hands

        this is on a scale that the anonymous cucks on porn hub can’t even fathom due to an inequity in celebrity. Like even the Hulk Hogan story the story wasn’t about the guy Hogan was cucking the story was about Hogan’s sextape.

    • EvilSheldon

      Don’t push your kinks on the normals. That’s like rule #4.

      • Bobarian LMD

        There are no normals.

    • Mojeaux

      My thoughts brought over from dedthred:

      Seems the relationship was consensual and this is a married couple who’s all in together. It’s not as if the wife came forward to claim abuse.

      • juris imprudent

        Mo’, forget about trying to round the boys up on this. This is straight out of the locker-room. All that’s missing is the snapping of towels.

    • Ted S.

      I think this is the correct forum to discuss my Falwell position

      That’s just missionary, isn’t it?

  6. Chipwooder

    SF picking up the slack from Q’s absence, posting the hot pictures!

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      That screencap is priceless.

    • Suthenboy

      Yeah, that one has me scratching my head…what the hell is going on there? Some kind of seizure?

      • Suthenboy

        I almost made a comment about that…but I am a gentleman. I will just snicker to myself.

      • juris imprudent

        Looks back, looks again. A little bit of Francis Urquhart there – well, I would never say such a thing.

      • Ted S.

        Thank you for not calling him Underwood.

    • CPRM

      I just had a sickening realization. I’m closer in age to haggard old Kelly-Anne than I am to her hot daughter.

    • Not Adahn

      It is a great pic, but it needs alt-text.

      • Bobarian LMD

        Does it really? Remember who would be writing it.

      • SugarFree

        I decided it should stand on its own. As a witness and the witnessed.

  7. KibbledKristen

    recycled jizz dust

    I have no comment. I just wanted to block quote that line.

    • Suthenboy

      2000 level inorganic chem…classmate and I studied together for finals. Went to his dorm room on one occasion. Yikes. I bet when he took that fitted sheet off of his bed it could stand up like a sheet of plywood.
      We studied at my place after that.

      • KibbledKristen

        * vomit face *

        * thinks of the roadside furniture that lived in my various apartments before I could afford new stuff *

      • Tundra

        I (used to) travel enough where I had to turn off the tv whenever the helpful news media would get out the fucking black light in a hotel room.

        People are gross. I try not to think about it.

      • commodious spittoon

        They spunk up your room with their disgusting habits, but you pass it on to the next guy. It’s like a South Philly Christmas.

      • Bobarian LMD

        Paying it forward.

      • zwak

        White Elephant gift?

      • KibbledKristen

        * wonders if that one particular chair is still in some college student’s living room *

      • The Other Kevin

        We once had a next door neighbor who was a bachelor at the time. He’d have a different girl over several days in a row, and just wipe a dryer sheet over his bed sheets to “freshen them up.”

      • Suthenboy

        This is why fluffing the sheets on a first date is a bad idea. Find out how often they wash their sheets and how often they brush their teeth first….and wait long enough to see if any large blisters pop up on their lips.

  8. CPRM

    FIRST OT COMMENT! Eat it non-OT bitches!/borchoqueer off

    Lots of yall talk about podcasts, and there was mention of Audible in the last thread. Just want to let you guys know about LibreVox.org, free audio book readings of public domain works. They have Adam Smith and Alexis de Tocqueville, writings from Jefferson etc. They are read by volunteers, so not all of them are read compellingly, but they are free.

    • Not Adahn

      “not compelling, but free” was how I was described on women’s restroom stalls.

      • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

        Huh. Small world.

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      I’ve just started the process of volunteering with them, for a few reasons. 1) I need more practice with speaking dynamics over zoom calls, and this is great practice for that; 2) it counts as volunteer hours at work, and 3) I want to see if I can be interesting enough to maybe transition over into getting a small podcast/YouTube channel going

      • Tundra

        Fun!

        I may do that, as well.

        I wonder if they’d be interested in Tundra reading H&H…

      • CPRM

        I’m too much of a perfectionist to do something like that, i’d take an hour to record a 30 second radio ad just trying to get every beat right. Good on you though.

    • Mojeaux

      I could never do that. I hate my voice. I sound like a 12-year-old redneck.

      • leon

        Huh… I don’t read you like a 12 year old redneck.

        See this is why i can’t do the Zoom calls, it would ruing my internal voices for all of you.

      • Mojeaux

        You get used to them and then they become totally the most natural thing in the world. Now I can take my glasses off to stitch and know who’s talking. I also now read them in their voices. It’s awesome.

      • juris imprudent

        In case you need a reference to my voice.

      • KibbledKristen

        I think your voice is lovely!!

      • Mojeaux

        Aw, thanks, KK. I always wanted a voice like Kathleen Turner’s (circa Romancing the Stone) and then I heard her in her old age and noped right out of that wish.

      • Drake

        There’s the right level of smoking and drinking to get a slightly husky voice, then there’s way too much.

      • Mojeaux

        Knew which song it was before I clicked.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I do too. this is definitely a step outside of the comfort zone for me. I have a nasally, sometimes effeminate voice, as the zoomers have heard, so I’m rushing headlong into some insecurities.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’ve heard a rumor that everyone thinks their recorded voice sounds nasally because of the difference between what their ears pick up inside their heads and what the world hears.

      • CPRM

        My recorded voice sounds less ‘nasally’ but I hear ever breath and it’s annoying.

      • UnCivilServant

        I have a half-recorded reading of “Ink and Infatuation” where I went in and edited out every inhalation that got picked up by the microphone.

        I lost my notes as to how each character’s voice should be pitched, and forgot the vocal cadence and attitude for the dialog of those characters, so I may not be able to finish it.

      • CPRM

        As an editor, that breath is the one thing I hate, and spent the last decade eradicating. But my breathing is so much more annoying, because I know better.

      • UnCivilServant

        I find it difficult to talk for very long without inhaling.

      • leon

        That’s because you’re not a lizard person

      • Drake

        Hot!

    • leon

      Thats pretty cool. I might volunteer.

    • Bill (Door) Baggins (a Skellington)

      I’ve gotten some audio from LibreVox in the past, but I always forget about them. I have (through Audible) Democracy in America, but could go for some Adam Smith for my collection.

      It’s cool that some of y’all are volunteering. Maybe a post someday with some links to the works that have been volunteered for would be warranted.

  9. Hyperion

    That photo of Kellyanne… good grief is that for real?

    • Mojeaux

      She looks a wee bit older than 53, I’ll admit.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The guy in the hat with the handgun in his “hands up don’t shoot” pose, charges back at the rifleman as soon as the rifle is lowered, then gets a chunk of his arm shot off.

        Interesting. If true, the shooter is going to have a pretty clear cut self-defense argument.

      • Rebel Scum

        I just saw the hands up still. Looked like he lunged again in the video. Wonder how that plays out.

      • leon

        Though grabbing the rifle probably saved his live, at the cost of his arm.

      • Homple

        Trashmnstr, I appreciated that.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Here are the cops picking up the guy with the arm injury.
        https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298653010738872320

        Is it just me or do the cops seem terrified? They’re not going to do jackshit to protect the residents of Kenosha. An article I read said this started when the cops drove the rioters away from the courthouse and into residential areas.

        Also, note the guy with AR giving aid to the rioter with the arm injury. Is this one local residents who came to aid a rioter, or is Antifa arming up? I know firearms and body armor have confiscated off insurgents in Portland, but we may be seeing an increase now. In another video, they are screaming for their Antifa medics, so the organization was in place in something like two days.

      • Viking1865

        “Is it just me or do the cops seem terrified?” Law and order means harassing druggies and running DUI checkpoints. Actual active mobs of violent insurgents is not what they signed up for. You can’t enjoy your OT and your pension if your head gets smashed in.

      • Idle Hands

        seriously. Cops are under no obligation for preventing these people from firebombing your business or building, like most gov agency’s their job is mostly to come in after a disaster and assign blame in the form of fines and court fees that the actual victims see nothing of but could help them in their eventual civil lawsuit if the agencies didn’t already take all of it first.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Probably thinking “Oh shit, how do I not end up as a headline from being killed, indicted, or both?”

      • R C Dean

        is Antifa arming up

        They’ve already gunned up. As you noted, they’ve confiscated some in Portland. There was a group with rifles that tried to stop the cop MRAP in Kenosha. The guy who caught a bullet in his arm had a gun.

        Tonight could well see a full-fledged firefight in Kenosha, if the Gov. doesn’t send in the Guard with orders to disperse the mob, what’s the phrase?

        By Any Means Necessary.

      • l0b0t

        Remember back about 16 years ago, when the Stupid Party had their convention in NYC and NYPD rounded up hundreds of protesters at a time and jailed them all in a disused warehouse down at the wharf and confiscated all of their velocipedes and destroyed most of them? Sure, we poor schmucks who live here ended up on the hook for an $18 million settlement for civil rights violations. But, in retrospect, it was, perhaps, a price worth paying. Can we go back to them days?

      • Swiss Servator

        No. Wrong conduct is wrong.

      • Drake

        Bringing a skateboard to a gunfight – Darwin Award.

    • Rebel Scum

      I have to imagine he saw that the guy had a rifle. Instant karma is instant.

    • kinnath

      Another case where “stand your ground” is a license to murder.

      What do you mean that he ran until he fell down; and then some jackass jumped on him; then a different jackass hit him in the head with a skateboard; and then another jackass charged him with a pistol in his hand.

      None of this would have happened if Hillary had banned assault rifles.

      • AlexinCT

        That logic there almost made me believe you are a lib, you… Are you living in their heads or something Kinnath?

      • kinnath

        maybe

      • WTF

        And, they have just charged the guy who defended himself with murder. Sending a message to the deplorables, I guess, about the cost of not lying down and taking it.

  10. Mad Scientist

    The best thing about Wednesday is SugarFree.

      • Mad Scientist

        I wish the rotor housing was actually trochoidal, but otherwise, I want one of those!

      • Sensei

        Seems to me he needs to step up his game and add another rotor on the backside for a dual rotor model.

      • Suthenboy

        Ingenius…really it is. I wish I could envision in 3d well enough to design something that clever. I do see a flaw…the apex seals, it seems, will wear out quickly making it high maintenance and thus expensive to operate.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I’m not sure if they’re any more prone to wear than piston rings, which serve the same purpose.

        At least with piston rings, the friction is static because the cylinder is machined smooth. The dynamics of the apex seals being under pressure only part of the time may cause it to wear faster.

      • Suthenboy

        There should be a substantial difference in surface area, but that could be remedied.

      • Bobarian LMD

        The real issue with a wankel is ‘quench’. i.e. too much surface area to volume at the ignition and power stroke, which decreases the efficiency of the burn and makes the engine more prone to run dirty.

      • Tundra

        Nah. The early ones got all the oil they wanted (the sweet, sweet smell of combusting dinosaurs), but EPA bullshit made them worse. Like everything.

        Maintenance is a thing. And the rotary is a thing of beauty.

      • Mad Scientist

        The later ones have a pump that injects engine oil from the pan onto the rotor housing apex seal surface. 2-stroke premix also does a fine job of keeping them lubed.

      • Tundra

        Cool. Mine was a 1984 and never had a moment of trouble with it.

        Except chicks wanting a ride. You could only take one at a time…

      • Mad Scientist

        Next time let one of them drive. You get in the passenger seat. And then you can fit another in your lap.

      • DEG

        I like the way Mad Scientist thinks.

      • R C Dean

        2-stroke premix also does a fine job of keeping them lubed.

        But enough about your social life.

      • Mojeaux

        Like a Spirograph!

      • Suthenboy

        I am betting the inventor played with spirograph a lot as a kid.

      • l0b0t

        The maker says he submitted the MOC to Lego Ideas. For those who may be unaware, Lego Ideas is a wonderful forum wherein one may submit one’s own Lego designs (MOCs – My Own Creations) for public perusal. If a project receives 10K votes, The Lego Group will consider putting it into production.

        https://ideas.lego.com/

  11. Rebel Scum

    “My sweet wrinkle baby,”

    Kellyanne always struck me as kinda gilfy.

  12. The Late P Brooks

    Political Calvinball

    President Donald Trump turned one of the most promising new treatments for COVID-19 into a political football this week, bragging that he pushed through emergency use authorization of convalescent plasma by confronting what he calls the government’s “deep state.”

    Trump’s statements, if true, suggest the U.S. Food and Drug Administration acted at his behest – on the eve of the Republican National Convention — instead of making its decision based on data.

    With his reputation on the line, FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn is defending the authorization but backtracking on statements he made about the plasma treatment Sunday evening at the White House with Trump standing nearby.

    ——-

    On Tuesday, Hahn told “CBS This Morning” that he was looking specifically at a subgroup of patients who appeared to benefit the most from the treatment – an approach that presents a rosier scenario. But he’s maintained that the public should still trust his agency.

    “We at FDA do not permit politics to enter into our scientific decisions,” he insisted in a statement on Twitter. “This happens to be a political season but FDA will remain data driven. On behalf of FDA‘s 18,000 career employees, I want to reassure the American public about this commitment.”

    ——-

    The good news about the authorization is that the treatment could become more widely available to patients.

    But it’s unlikely people would enroll in clinical trials if they have a shot at getting the real thing instead of a placebo. That means randomized placebo-controlled clinical trials could face an uphill battle to produce concrete results that doctors can act on.

    That’s the reason the Infectious Diseases Society of America spoke out against the authorization.

    “While the data to date show some positive signals that convalescent plasma can be helpful in treating individuals with COVID-19, especially if given early in the trajectory of disease, we lack the randomized controlled trial data we need to better understand its utility in COVID-19 treatment,” said Dr. Thomas File, Jr., president of IDSA.

    SCIENCE rules them.

    It has nothing whatsoever to do with personal animus against President Cartoon Villain. A good idea is a good idea, except maybe if it comes from the wrong person.

    • leon

      It was going to be a promising medication, but then Trump had to endorse it and now we have to be against it.

    • Suthenboy

      People wont enter the test if they can get the real thing so they wont have a control group?
      The crisis is urgent enough to crush the greatest economy the world has ever known and crush millions of lives but not so urgent that we can afford months of trials letting hundreds of billions die while they wait for the test results?

      I am thinking maybe someone is not exactly being truthful.

      • Tundra

        It’s horseshit. Mayo did it the way they did specifically because it would be immoral and unethical to give placebos for a treatment that’s extremely effective and understood.

        And the cunt from IDSA fucking knows this.

      • Drake

        The CDC, FDA, and IDSA are worse than useless during an epidemic. They actively killed thousands to protect their turf and friends in the medical industry.

      • Idle Hands

        Their mendacity and laying down in front of the private companies and actors developing cheap and plentiful testing capacity in january and February was especially egregious.

      • Idle Hands

        only for some cheap and plentiful things other things like Redmizver an hiv treatment that Gilead can charge 1500 a dose for is a okay.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      From what I understand the treatment works best when people are in bad shape and asking for a placebo control could well be a death sentence if you draw the short straw.

      Ethics, motherfucker, do you speak it?!

      • juris imprudent

        So withholding treatment from all is more ethical?

      • WTF

        Let me explain: ORANGEMANBAD!!
        Understand?

    • grrizzly

      “While the data to date show some positive signals that convalescent plasma can be helpful in treating individuals with COVID-19, especially if given early in the trajectory of disease, we lack the randomized controlled trial data we need to better understand its utility in COVID-19 treatment,”

      Now do masks.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Thats different!!111!1

      • Idle Hands

        Masks I’d settle asymptomatic spreaders?

    • Idle Hands

      I’ve said from day one if he had started banging pots and pans together promoting a national lockdown and mask ordinance we’d already be through this nonsense. People are so broken by him they probably would tell their doctor to fuck off if they prescribed hydroxychloroquine or blood plasma to save their lives. It’s bananas. But than again the doomers ignore literally any piece of good news or data that runs counter to this being the worst thing since the black plague anyway so who knows?

  13. The Late P Brooks

    I do see a flaw…the apex seals, it seems, will wear out quickly making it high maintenance and thus expensive to operate.

    Aw, you peeked, didn’t you?

    • kinnath

      I cannot see whatever it is you post when you go through ibb

      • kinnath

        thanks

      • UnCivilServant

        She took a screenshot of when there were 69 comments.

      • KibbledKristen

        UCS is not amused.

      • kinnath

        And also thanks

  14. Drake

    A guy actually named Rothschild is complaining about generational wealth and power. Does covid numb your sense of irony?

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      I don’t have problem with him being a Rothschild but the dude’s a bow tie wearer if that’s really him in his avatar. Yuck.

      • Rhywun

        Yeah, that’s worse.

    • Sensei

      That is awesome. Unreal.

    • KibbledKristen

      He’s still gonna get the guillotine, no matters what he bleats

  15. Bill (Door) Baggins (a Skellington)

    Speaking of COVID treatments: From the Bee.

    • leon

      “Trump literally told his sycophantic followers to buy a plasma television, get a syringe out, and inject the plasma stuff right into their bloodstreams,” Brian Stelter hollered on his Sunday program. “He also seemed to suggest you could just snort the stuff or put it in a bong and smoke it. This is extremely dangerous. We must repeat for our extremely intelligent CNN viewer(s): do not inject plasma. Do not eat plasma. Do not consume an entire television.”

      The Bee needs to get back to doing satire.

      • Rhywun

        viewer(s)

        LOL

    • Drake

      If you use plasma from the sun it kills the virus dead.

      • Not Adahn

        We should send Fauci to the sun to collect it personally.

  16. Nephilium

    So… for the football fans. The Browns have released their COVID plans. This is assuming that the state lets them have more then 1,500 fans in attendance.

    • Idle Hands

      There’s going to be fans at least in the SEC, Texas and Florida(we’ll they’ll be allowed to go anyway) so the cognitive dissonance and head burying about this is going to be interesting.

      • blighted_non_millenial

        My buddy is a lifelong UGA fan, grad, donor and season ticket holder. Not sure if they are going to allow tailgating, can only buy tickets to two games and has to buy 4 tickets @ $150 a piece (75 face, 75 donation) for each game you buy tickets for.

    • CPRM

      The waiting list for tickets to Packer games is literally a generation long. They gave season ticket holders an opt out back in June, I think, and now don’t plan to have fans for the first several home games. And now this week there has been all the talk of how Aaron Rogers and the team will address what’s going on in Kenosha. I’m just fucking done. I don’t give a shit anymore.

      • Idle Hands

        I was talking to a Packers fan they apparently don’t have a plan because they probably couldn’t get enough season ticket holders to opt out.

      • juris imprudent

        It would be awesome for the all of the fans to turn away from the field while the players do their SJW bullshit. Sure guys, you do you, and we’ll just ignore it until you’re ready to play.

    • Rhywun

      Pass.

  17. Fatty Bolger

    So this seems to be the media’s spin on the police scanner audio showing that Jacob Blake was the subject of the 911 call and that also had an outstanding warrant for arrest for a felony:

    Jacob Blake was shot less than 3 minutes after Wisconsin police arrived at the scene, according to dispatch audio

    Kenosha police opened fire less than 5 minutes after being called: scanner audio

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Five minutes is a long time in the evolution of a situation. Truly the dumbest timeline.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      And “strange” they never brought this up during the Tamir Rice incident.

      • Fatty Bolger

        Like people actually read the articles.

      • cyto

        That is pretty amazing.

        What happened to reporting? I know that it is a different world, and the video was explosive, so that explains some of it.

        But there used to be rules. Multiple sources, eyewitnesses, don’t use secondary sources, etc.

        It seems like every single time they run with something that somebody just completely made up out of whole cloth.

        Now, that doesn’t change my analysis of the incident, which is that the officers had a lot of other options that they did not avail themselves of in the moments leading up to the “he’s reaching for a gun, fire!” moment. I still maintain that even in a good shoot, there are often missed opportunities for doing things better (or simply differently) along the path to the shooting. In this case, having a gun drawn was probably a bad idea that limited options. Allowing him to open the car door was a mistake – he could have easily used his body weight to prevent that from happening…. etc.

        But these stories always run like this…. everyone goes with a simple and wrong narrative, then they double down trying to support that one. And for that, I do blame the press.

        Hands up, don’t shoot was made up out of whole cloth. Now, “he was just breaking up a fight” is falling apart.

        The world would certainly be a better place if the press would stop being a propaganda machine and start acting as the 4th estate.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I still maintain that even in a good shoot, there are often missed opportunities for doing things better (or simply differently) along the path to the shooting.

        QFT

      • R C Dean

        Well, TM is TE, after all.

        Might as well ask a scorpion to be a frog.

      • PudPaisley

        Hey Viking, I couldn’t find the video of the vehicle caravan on FB. Either FB took it down or the poster got scared and took it down. Here’s some info from Monday afternoon / evening though regarding the caravan.

        First part is from the Racine County Police Scanner at 6:18 PM. The posts are delayed so updates probably start around 5 or 5:30.

        RCSO/MPPD
        I-94 SB
        100 cars driving slow with their hazards on and their plates covered
        Update – Vehicles now exited on Hwy 20
        Update 2 – Vehicles are now Going SB on Hwy 31 from Hwy 20
        Update 3 – 100 Cars are in this group
        Update 4 – The group are now passing Hwy KR on Hwy 31 – Group is now up to around 200 cars

        **Hwy 20 is roughly 10 miles north KR, which is the Kenosha County Line with Racine County. Hwy 31 is a major north-south corridor on the western edge of the city of Kenosha.

        Here’s the relevant part of the Kenosha County Scanner

        ***1846 – estimated 200 vehicles SB on Green Bay heading to Kenosha w/blacked out plates crossing Hwy KR
        ***1850 – Large crowd leaving Civic Park NB Sheridan
        ***1900 – large vehicle caravan in city on 22nd

        22nd Street is one of the main north – south roads through downtown and where a lot of the arson happened Monday night.

        So obviously the police knew they were heading into town and did nothing about it.

        Sorry I can’t find any video. The video I seen on Facebook was only about 1 minute long. The person was filming in the right lane as they were driving alongside the caravan, who took up the center and left lanes. They appeared to only be going around 45 mph with hazards on. I’m guessing the person deleted the video out of fear, or Facebook removed it.

      • DEG

        I ran some google searches. I turned up this two day old article

        Several rallies have also been announced throughout the day in Kenosha — including a peaceful rally outside of City Hall this evening. Protesters from Manitowoc and Milwaukee are planning car caravans to drive to Kenosha and join in demonstrations there.

      • R C Dean

        w/blacked out plates

        Which is a moving violation. They could have stopped and cited them all, and had names, etc. But they didn’t.

        I hope somebody who they have to answer to asks why.

      • Surly Knott

        No shit. Bunched up like that, send in the highway patrol and bust every last one of them. Pile on ‘resisting arrest’ as necessary, and go over every vehicle with a gimlet eye for violations.

      • Viking1865

        Jesus Christ thats scary. It’s one thing when its a crowd of a couple hundred LARPers with a few hardcores seeded through. But that’s an entirely different kettle of fish.

        I need more guns.

    • PudPaisley

      According to my sources who know people familiar with the investigation, he had a gun in the van. I wonder how they’ll spin that when it comes out in the evidence.

      **Hey, if that’s good enough for the NYT and WP, it’s good enough for me**

      • Fatty Bolger

        Seems likely, because in a prior arrest he had a handgun on the floor behind his seat.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Police put it there

        /forthcoming nareative

  18. cyto

    I have been notably absent from the fray here. It seems that I have kids, you see, and those kids started back to school last week. And by back to school, I mean they are being home schooled by me, except with a teacher online from the school district.

    So I only had time to post crap late at night when I couldn’t sleep.

    So this is my first shot at the political conventions.

    Holy crap…. the media is …. .uh… full of crap.

    Night one of the RNC my brother texted to say “It’s over! Herschel Walker just destroyed Biden’s chances!” He’s a bit of a fan. I texted back that nobody was going to see it, and that the media will say that the RNC was a “dark vision” of the country. And totally racist.

    I went back later and watched. He wasn’t wrong about Walker’s pitch. It was powerful.

    I wasn’t wrong about the media. I documented over at TOS, but every media outlet used “dark”. And they all took the same tactic on Tim Scott. His speech was good. But they called him “The only black republican in the senate.” All of them. It was a poll tested label. They dismissed him out of hand after saying it was a good speech. Even Reason.com used the label “the only black republican in the Senate”. Word for word.

    After last night it should have been clear, if night one didn’t make it clear. Trump is coming hard after the black vote. He sees an opening, and he’s going for it, full force and without apology.

    Last night he went with an evangelical redemption story, using the testimony of a black convict that found God in prison and who Trump personally helped. He capped it off with a full pardon in prime time. It was brilliant.

    Trump used this overtly religious segment to lead in to the most full-throated anti abortion pitch I have ever seen. They went all-in on religion and saving the lives of babies.

    It was a powerful pitch.

    And then they hit school choice. Several speakers over both nights went all-in on school choice.

    The media cleverly figured out that all of this was a pitch directed at white suburban moms… a demographic that Biden leads Trump with by a 13 point margin.

    All of them..

    Uh, right.

    Suburban moms? I mean, sure… everyone loves a redemption story. And women were definitely front and center and being targeted hard.

    But the pitch of the night was at white suburban moms?

    Uh… no.

    The first two days make it clear. In addition to his base and traditional Republicans and conservatives, Trump is focused entirely on going after the Black vote. Both night featured speakers and events that were designed to showcase Trump’s record on the black community and draw a map for the black voter to find his way from a Democrat party that is much more liberal than he is to a Republican party that much more closely represents his values.

    Last night had the overtly evangelical story of a black convict, redeemed… .and giving a fantastic speech crediting Trump. This was the hook. They used the thread of religion to try to get them to stick around to hear the anti-abortion pitch. I don’t know how it breaks out by race, but I’ll bet that more than 8% of black voters would like an evangelical redemption story of a black criminal and a stance on abortion that favors babies over abortions.

    Yet none in the media seemed to want to comment on this. The most dynamic speeches and events on the first two nights featured African Americans. The pitch on school choice was aimed right at African Americans.

    Yet nobody seemed to draw a connection?

    Are they stupid?

    Oh… Light Bulb moment….. they are not stupid. They see it. They just don’t want to give it any credence at all. They see the same opportunity Trump sees, and they are afraid that despite years of race-baiting and calling Trump a white supremacist, even 2 nights of a pitch by Trump will risk losing everything.

    So they don’t mention it at all. They don’t mention the theme, not even to call it cynical.

    But the first two days make it clear… Trump is trying to destroy the iron grip of the Democrat party on the black vote.

    • leon

      Well if there was ever a moment to do it, This seems like it would be it. The only thing Joe has going for him was that he was Baraks VP. Even nominating Kamala should end up being a net negative for him.

    • Sean
      • cyto

        amazing.

      • DEG

        Note the non-Trump side appears much more white.

    • Fatty Bolger

      Yep. Kind of like how he went after traditionally stalwart Dem voters in 2016. The media and talking heads laughed at him then, but nobody’s laughing now. They’ll use every dirty trick in the book to stop it from happening.

      • cyto

        You mean dirty tricks like ginning up a year long media campaign to foment racial unrest, culminating in riots in the name of racial justice that the media then blames on Trump’s white nationalism?

      • cyto

        What’s her name over at the NYT is even taking credit for it. She is calling them the 1619 riots.

      • Rhywun

        Wow, seriously? That’s fucking chutzpah.

      • cyto

        You could call it that….

        or you could call it “things going according to plan”.

    • Rhywun

      Didn’t watch but it’s pretty clever to stress abortion more than usual when it is the only issue a solid chunk of Dems give a shit about.

      • cyto

        They went full monty on abortion – they had a hard-core religious message and talked about the sacred nature of human life. It was way, way, way more hard core than any RNC I can remember.

        Which is odd with Trump at the helm, having only recently converted his stance.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      To make the sale, you have to ask for the business. Trump is asking for the business.

    • R C Dean

      Even Reason.com used the label “the only black republican in the Senate”.

      Do they refer to Harris and Booker as “one of only two black Democrats in the Senate”?

      • Ted S.

        One and a half black Democrats. Harris is half-Indian.

      • cyto

        And half Jamaican.

        None African-American descended from slaves in America and the Jim Crow south.

        Just like Obama.

        The DNC likes people who look black but are not actually from black culture, apparently.

  19. Drake

    Hey, NJ will soon allow gyms to reopen.

    required to operate at 25% of indoor capacity

    – Not sure what that means

    Masks or face coverings must be worn at all times inside the gym.

    – Nope, fuck-off

    Equipment must be six feet apart.

    – I guarantee that isn’t happening either given the floorspace of a gym and basic geometry.

    • leon

      Masks or face coverings must be worn at all times inside the gym.

      This is just retarded. The Gyms in Utah have been open since May (technically they were never closed by the government, the main gym provider just shut down for a month and a half). There’s been plenty of people going, and it has not been a vector for covid.

      • Nephilium

        So, are these the masks you can stick a water bottle through? Or how are people going to rehydrate while working out?

      • mrfamous

        Why do you want to kill grandma?

      • mrfamous

        Seriously, you’re actually going to try and mount counter-arguments to any of this? That assumes there’s logic or reason to be debated here; there isn’t. The state has issued a direct order, follow it or stay out of the gym.

        That’s our lives for the foreseeable future.

      • Nephilium

        No… just venting. Here in Ohio you just need to mask up when entering or exiting.

        There’s a part of me that really is starting to lean towards the sign that all of the laws, rules, ordinances, etc need to be enforced as strictly as possible. With any public employee being the first targets for citations. But I know that’ll never happen.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Oh, like the cops who are supposed to mask for traffic stops according to agency policy and state directive, but don’t?

      • Nephilium

        Thinking about this more, I wonder if it would be possible to help stop overreach with allowing private prosecution and 1.5-2x penalties for public employees.

    • Rhywun

      Not sure what that means

      It means none of them can afford to operate at a profit.

      • Drake

        The six-foot rule helps too. Do they throw out half their equipment or double their space (after getting zero revenue for half a year)?

      • juris imprudent

        Six-foot rule you say?

    • DEG

      Gyms in NH are limited to 50% of capacity. Gym staff are supposed to count people entering and exiting. I’m not sure they are at my gym but I could be wrong.

      Machines and equipment are spaced out where possible, or blocked off where not possible to space them out. I’ll note that some of the spacing out has actually made the gym more crowded and harder to move through.

      The Clown Prince’s orders state staff have to wear masks at all times and members only have to wear masks while entering and exiting. The front door staff at my gym will wear masks and occasionally the cleaning staff will wear masks, but the training staff do not unless the client wants it. I’ll wear a bandanna over my face while entering and exiting the gym because the staff asked me to since they just want the city and state off their backs so the business can get back to normal.

      There is a city ordinance requiring customers to wear masks at all times while inside a business. The city is updating the ordinance for indoor dining and gyms. The original ordinance was written when only outdoor dining was allowed (no indoor dining at the time) and gyms were still closed. The update, if it passes, will allow customers to take off their masks while actively working out. The update also requires businesses to be enforcers. I think the “businesses as enforcers” change is due to the city police refusing to enforce the ordinance. The gym staff I’ve talked to said they have no intentions of requiring members to wear masks except where the Clown Prince’s orders require them.

      The sad thing is, I’ve seen an increasing number of people wearing masks while working out. Fucking sad.

      • R C Dean

        Mrs. Dean’s gym is completely ignoring any and all requirements, and operating completely business as usual.

        My impression is the owner decided if he tried to comply, he’d go out of business, so he might as well blow it off and do what he wants.

      • cyto

        Hmmmmm…

        “if you don’t do what we say, we *might* run you out of business”

        vs

        “If you do what we say, you will definitely go out of business”

        tough choice

      • Rhywun

        The update also requires businesses to be enforcers.

        This pisses me off more than anything.

      • mrfamous

        Bog standard right now. They know they can’t enforce it against the people, so they threaten the businesses to do their enforcement for them. Lovely stuff.

      • DEG

        That bit might actually get torpedoed.

        The state retailer’s association and the state’s lodging and restaurant association are lobbied hard against that. Their objection can be summed up as, “Employees shouldn’t have to enforce the ordinance. The police should.”

    • mrfamous

      Exact same shit as they’ve mandated here in AZ this week. It’s moronic. Going to try and go tomorrow. Will not be wearing the mask during my heavy presses. Will pull it back up in between sets. If I get told not to pull my mask down, ever. I’ll leave without incident and call to demand a “freeze” be put on my membership until they uphold their end of the contact I signed.

      But I’m not gonna inhale a sweater every time I valsalva and not gonna jeopardize my spine just to comply with mask theater. The people responsible for this are not following anything remotely resembling “science.”

      Will continue to do cardio outside despite how inconvenient it is.

  20. Rebel Scum

    Guess who else is running with DNC talking points.

    China’s state-run Global Times propaganda newspaper derided the Republican National Convention (RNC) as a hotbed of “fear and xenophobia” on Tuesday, shortly before the RNC aired a live naturalization ceremony to welcome five new citizens into the American fabric. …

    “The speakers in the Republican convention tried to sell fear and hyped xenophobia to cover the Trump administration’s failed handling of the COVID-19 [Chinese coronavirus] pandemic,” the Global Times claimed. “Experts said the event can only influence uneducated and conservative extremists, but these voters are not enough to get Trump reelected.”

    “Compared to the Democrats’ national convention, the Republicans on Monday hyped fear toward the Democrats, Joe Biden, and foreign countries, including China, Muslim countries, and U.S. neighbors Mexico and Canada,” the Chinese outlet claimed, quoting an alleged Chinese “expert” adding, “If you are not a die-hard fan to Trump but a neutral researcher on US politics, you can’t listen to those speakers for more than five minutes.”

    • leon

      CCP lining up behind Biden? Shocker.

    • Nephilium

      When I was a kid, I found an egg sack on a shrub in the back yard. I grabbed it, and put it in a cage. One day after school, I came home to find just a couple of praying mantis sitting in different corners of the cage, as they had consumed all of their siblings.

    • UnCivilServant

      Don’t worry, they don’t usually eat people or steaks.

      • Sean

        Whew!

        I was worried for a minute.

  21. Drake

    They just charged Kyle Rittenhouse with murder in Kenosha. Here’s maybe the most wildly slanted story I’ve ever seen – completely at odds with the embedded photos and video.

    Justice only runs one-way now.

    • leon

      ‘SHOOTER’ SNARED Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, charged with murder after ‘shooting dead two Jacob Blake protesters’ in Kenosha

      I can’t even get past the headline. Fuck you, they tried to kill him.

      • cyto

        The video is a pretty good instructional on “what not to do”.

        Not sure what the kid was up to, or why he had a rifle in the street… but it should all hinge on what happened with the first shooting.

        And there is zero chance that the police have finished their investigation, so this is an entirely political prosecution at this point. If you don’t even have a complete file, how in the world can you determine the charges.

        I do know that I see a clear and unequivocal self defense case for at least a couple of the shootings.

        But there are a lot of shots fired after that – and it is not clear who is shooting or what they are shooting at.

        But nice job by the prosecutor to muddy the case up by charging way too early in the process.

      • leon

        And there is zero chance that the police have finished their investigation, so this is an entirely political prosecution at this point.

        Pretty much this. I don’t know the whole story. But what you said right here is what i think is getting me upset. You have arsonists and looters running around, and a case that looks like is a good chance at being self defense, and you immediately come up with Murder 1? Fuck you.

      • AlexinCT

        The article says the kid was from Illinois. What was he doing there? I have heard people say this might have been a blue on blue event…..

      • juris imprudent

        Oh that would be priceless – friendly fire incident!

    • leon

      Even all the pictures they show in the article seem to indicate the guy is innocent. I hope he has a good lawyer and he wasn’t stupid enough to talk to the cops without one.

    • leon

      On Wednesday, Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, of Antioch, Illinois, was arrested on Wednesday afternoon and charged with first degree intentional homicide.

      I imagine they will go the route with Charlottesville dude to try to say that this was pre-meditated.

      • kinnath

        The prosecution will argue that he took a loaded weapon to an area of “protest” looking for an opportunity to use the weapon.

        They will scour social media to find any reference where it looks like he wants to shoot someone.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        So he wasn’t a local. That won’t help him.

      • Drake

        Looking it up on Google Maps – about 20 miles from Kenosha.

      • kinnath

        Antioch, Illinois

        Just across the border. 30 minutes drive time from Kenosha.

        That’s closer than where I go to play golf every weekend.

      • invisible finger

        Antioch is where the Holy Hand Grenades come from.

    • Rebel Scum

      charged with first degree intentional homicide

      Fuck. Off.

    • Rebel Scum

      The picture shows the man being shot in the arm

      And that object in his hand? I wonder what that is.

      • Fatty Bolger

        I wonder if he had a concealed carry license for that weapon they are doing their best to ignore.

        “journalism”

      • leon

        :Bravo:

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      The rioters fucked around and found out. This shit isn’t Twitter. That’s the lesson that should have been learned yesterday.

      They won’t get a First Degree conviction, but the process is the punishment.

      • leon

        I’d like to think so, but they got premeditated murder out of the Charlotsville guy.

      • cyto

        Yeah, that was completely unsupportable. But when you have mass hysteria….

        Robert Barnes talked about this in a different case – you have to lawyer a political case differently than a normal case. And most lawyers don’t know how to do that – especially buttoned down ivy league types. They schmooze the prosecutors and judges and make deals.

        There are no deals in political cases, so you have to “take it to the mattresses”, as it were.

      • l0b0t

        That Viva Frei fellow’s videos introduced me to Barnes; I’ve been enjoying and learning a great deal from his content.

      • cyto

        Ditto. If you have not seen it, their vlog together is well worth watching.

        Barnes is great. He is also susceptible to a few crazy ideas here and there, which makes for a strange mix.

        He even has one I agree with. He keeps saying “there is one thing you can count on, Epstein didn’t kill himself.”

      • Viking1865

        The Charlottesville guy was in a car. He wasn’t acting in self defense, on video. Charlottesville guy deserved what he got.

      • leon

        Getting Pre-meditated murder seems pretty crazy to me for the situation he was in. He was a murderer, but it was not pre-meditated.

      • Pine_Tree

        I typed this on a dead thread, but from the video, what happened in Charlottesville was clearly:
        – Guy shows up (in a rental car, not his own) to be a great big jerk in the protests. Is gonna yell, rev his motor, etc.
        – Gets surrounded and internal panic starts going up.
        – Batman happens and panic goes to 11, so he floors it.
        – He hits the stationary car in front of him that he couldn’t see because of the crowd, and the panic goes to 1100.
        – So he slams it in reverse and goes through the crowd.
        So yeah, he created it, but not premeditated (as in the sense of “showed up to kill someone”) murder.

      • Rebel Scum

        That was my take on the situation.

      • cyto

        Yeah, people were busting windows out with baseball bats. That would get me a little rattled.

      • cyto

        They also found out that Portland and Seattle is not Wisconsin. Sure, they have some leftie areas around the university and in the big city. But Wisconsin is redneck country. They hunt and fish and drink beer. And that’s just the women….

        My wife is from up that way. Everyone hunts. Everyone. You have to ask “is this venison” before eating anything that isn’t clearly identifiable, because they put their venison in everything.

        I don’t know anything about that kid or what happened, but I know that the people of Wisconsin are not the sort to just let some group of college kids roll up and burn down their neighborhood. Not without a fight.

        Maybe that’s why the prosecutor is making an example of him… trying to stop anyone else from defending property with violence.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        That’s why most of the riots have been concentrated in overwhelmingly white, overwhelmingly rich areas. They’re basically just terrorizing their parents. But they fucked up with Kenosha. And now they’re finding out. That’s why they’re migrating back to the yuppie areas of Chicago to riot on Saturday. Fine by me. I could care less if Lincoln Park and River North burn to ashes. You knew the kind of religious fanatics you live by and you still choose to live there. No sympathy and no one should bail them out.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Pretty basic prediction here: Trump wins Wisconsin. Just call it and move on. There’s no way some guy in Fond du Lac is going to see this (local news is reporting this, even if national news keeps playing games) and think “I think I’ll vote for the candidate supported by the rioters”.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Pretty basic prediction here: Trump wins Wisconsin. Just call it and move on. There’s no way some guy in Fond du Lac is going to see this (local news is reporting this, even if national news keeps playing games) and think “I think I’ll vote for the candidate supported by the rioters”.

      • cyto

        Just like a Chicago democrat, you voted twice…..

      • Swiss Servator

        How kind of you – maybe lots of people could get killed, and many others lose their livelihoods! God knows 100% of the people in those areas deserve it!!!!!!!!!!

      • leon

        Find me 5 people….

      • leon

        / Bible Snark

      • R C Dean

        Maybe that’s why the prosecutor is making an example of him… trying to stop anyone else from defending property with violence.

        He didn’t shoot to defend property. He shot to defend his life.

        The prosecutor jumped to charge him with first degree homicide in order to try to intimidate the non-rioters into staying home tonight and giving antifa the streets.

      • Drake

        Or – wear a mask (for covid), shoot them from long distance, preferably with a suppressor, catch your brass, and go home.

      • Swiss Servator

        So be Lee Malvo. Got it.

        Disgusting.

      • Drake

        I was half-joking. Disgusting or not, it’s whats coming soon if the riots and lopsided proscecutions continue.

      • Suthenboy

        It sure is. You need a better escape route.

      • Urthona

        Did he? I won’t watch this video so am pretty uninformed. Describe the incidents.

      • kinnath

        From my post earlier:

        . . . . he ran until he fell down; and then some jackass jumped on him; then a different jackass hit him in the head with a skateboard; and then another jackass charged him with a pistol in his hand.

      • Urthona

        So he fired while he was being beaten?

        Seems like self-defense, right?

      • juris imprudent

        Well clearly you are no Democratic DA.

      • Viking1865

        I think he is being charged for killing the people at the car lot. Then he for some reason left the car lot, running from the mob, and that’s when the second shooting happened where he turned the guys arm inside out.

    • Sean

      It’s now being reported he’s not even from Kenosha. That’s not going to look good, imo (if true).

    • Not Adahn

      Wait, a seventeen year old got a military-style fully semi automatic assault weapon… in Illinois?

      Ban the seventeen-year-old loophole!!!!!

    • Chipwooder

      You can riot every night and not a goddamned thing will happen to you. Defend yourself when those scumbags attack? Oh, no, THAT isn’t allowed.

      • R C Dean

        I’m thinking a peaceful protest is called for at the prosecutor’s house. I mean, under the new rules, that’s cool, right?

    • cyto

      The same interview, Lemon tried to get the talking points out there. He asked about stories that are circulating about him having a knife.

      Don Lemon: “Do you see any evidence on that video that he had a knife or a weapon of any sort?”

      Yup. Just trying to get the truth out there.

      Didn’t ask “did he have a weapon?” Didn’t ask “was there a gun in the vehicle?” Didn’t ask “was it true that he was only breaking up a fight between two women?”

      Nope.

      Just wanted to ask if there was video proof that a knife existed.

      Even with that setup, both the lawyer and the mom declined the opportunity to fuel the fire further.

      Lemon was clearly on a mission to foment racial animus.

      And I’m fairly certain that he sees no connection to the shootings that happened during the “protest”.

      • Not Adahn

        Doesn’t he have a trial or something coming up from when he sexually assaulted a dude?

  22. The Late P Brooks

    Praying mantises- every year at my house in Indianapolis, in the bushes under my living room window there were praying mantises. By late summer or early fall, it seemed as if there was a single huge survivor left; Queen of the Mantises. I assume she killed off her competitors.

    • leon

      Queen Of Mantises:

      Band Name or Boat Name?

      • Rhywun

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  23. The Late P Brooks

    The prosecution will argue that he took a loaded weapon to an area of “protest” looking for an opportunity to use the weapon.

    That was where I was going with my question this morning. Will the prosecutors paint him as a deranged bloodthirsty vigilante? I’ll go with “yes”.

    • Viking1865

      Well, that’s what he is. A vigilante. Of course, I see that as a neutral descriptor more so than a pejorative.

      • R C Dean

        Actually, I think he was acting as a member of the unorganized militia, attempting to preserve peace and public order.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      The prosecutor still needs to contend with a jury. I have a hard time seeing them get a conviction, but it’s the process that’s the punishment.

      • Chipwooder

        They need to start a defense fund. There will be no shortage of people willing to donate.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        GoFundMe will take it down in less than a half hour

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        White liberals never break ranks with fellow congregants of the faith. The only push back that will work is to bring the violence back to the white liberal. Burn his home to ashes. That’s the only thing he understands- the violence being turned on him.

      • Swiss Servator

        We are bloodthirsty today, aren’t we?

      • Ted S.

        Not just today.

      • leon

        You’re saying he should change his name to Conan Apologist?

        /rimshot

      • Chipwooder

        Pretty much, yeah, since the state can suddenly spring into action to arrest this kid yet never does a motherfucking thing to stop the riots.

        The governor of Wisconsin refused to send in the National Guard in anything more than token numbers, and this was a direct result of his negligence. If anybody should swing, it’s that asshole.

      • Chipwooder

        There were fundraisers long before those assholes existed.

    • R C Dean

      he took a loaded weapon to an area of “protest” looking for an opportunity to use the weapon.

      Unlike the guy who hit him with a skateboard or the guy who came after him with a handgun?

      I wonder if they are going to charge the guy with the handgun with anything? I think there’s a few crimes on tape, there.

      • Nephilium

        The skateboard was just transportation. And U-locks are just to secure the bicycle you didn’t ride there.

  24. The Late P Brooks

    If Obama had suggested using plasma treatments for Wu Flu, he’d be on his way to Stockholm to pick up his Nobel Prize for medicine.

  25. leon

    The first time i ever heard of Kenosha was when Don Escaped mentioned it when talking about Electoral politics.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      You need to get out more. I bet you don’t even recognize all the things around you that were made in Wisconsin, like diabetes, man boobs, and shitty cheese.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Also, never wear a Bears hoodie to a Milwaukee festival. Getting heckled as you ride a Ferris Wheel is one hell of an experience. They’re just jealous that I could fit in the seat with another person.

        Anyone from Wisconsin whose got a problem with my shit talking can meet me in Kenosha. We’ll settle this like true Midwesterners: drinking copious amounts of Coors, eating cheese curds, and calling the other guy’s football team “gay”.

      • robc

        Why would a midwesterner drink a western beer? Hell, if you are in WI, drink a spotted cow like a local.

      • PudPaisley

        Yeah, no self respecting Sconnie drinks Coors when we have great home grown beers like Miller Lite, Milwaukee’s Best, Pabst, Old Style, Old Milwaukee, and fancy beers like Leinie’s Red.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Cry more

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Also, your quarterback is gay. Fight me.

      • PudPaisley

        Hey, don’t be dissing a fellow Bears fan. I’ve had to put up with Packer fan bullshit my entire life.

        Well, I was a diehard fan for 35 years. NFL is been losing me little by little the last 6 years.

    • Viking1865

      I think I first heard of it in the book World War Z.

    • Chipwooder

      For me it was Weezer’s “Buddy Holly” video……”Arnold’s is proud to present Kenosha Wisconsin’s own Weezer!”

    • Not Adahn

      When the east/west streets from Tulsa cross over into Broken arrow, they got from being numbered to being named after other US cities for some reason. I lived off of 71st/Kenosha.

    • Gustave Lytton

      How could you leave out her bio where she’s describes herself as a “mystical libertarian”?? For shame!

    • EvilSheldon

      It certainly did for me.

  26. mikey

    2020? Lets see.

    -Plague? Check

    – Locusts? Check

    -Floods? Check

    -Fire? Check

    -Insurrection? Check

    Hat & Hair? Check – we’ll be fine

    • leon

      I think you’re supposed to end with: “Priceless”.

    • Not Adahn

      As I understand it, they were only beating him because he had already killed the first guy.

      • The Other Kevin

        He was charged with shooting three people. Two of them died.

      • leon

        Hmmm, I thought he had killed the two and maimed the one all at the same time. From the video i seem to remember 3 people getting shot.

        Shithead 1 who comes at him first, another who hits him with a skateboard, and the final one who put his hands up and the ran at him and tried to grab the rifle

      • Not Adahn

        I could be wrong, but I believe the sequence is:

        1. Something happens at auto dealership, and he headshots someone.
        2. He freaks TF out
        3. Gets Chased
        4. Falls down, guts-shots guy #2 and Detaches bicep from guy #3, who were attacking him while he was down.

      • cyto

        Yup… everything hinges on what happened at the dealership. We don’t see that – we just hear it.

        Good chance the larping 20 something year old guys were attacking him, but that has not been communicated to us plebes.

      • Sean

        I swear I saw something about a molotov cocktail this morning at the dealership. Though that was before the coffee kicked in.

      • leon

        If it was my discussion earlier, i was just talking about Arson in general. Don’t know what happened at the dealership

      • leon

        Something great about the moment we are living in is that it doesn’t matter that the Corporate press refuses to acknowledge antifa’s existence, you have independent people going out and documenting it.

      • Fatty Bolger

        Looks like the kid probably called 911 immediately after the shooting, or tried to.

      • cyto

        Just think what this says about the murder cases of the past.

        Without video evidence, where would we be with this one?

        “17 year old white supremacist goes on a killing rampage, unprovoked. ”

        With video… he not only has a really good shot of beating murder charges, he might even have some cause of action against the people who attack him. It will take a good attorney in this highly charged atmosphere though.

        Prior to 15 years ago, everything was eyewitnesses only. How many fights went to court based on “this guy has 5 friends who were there, and that guy only has one”?

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Hopefully he learned his lesson then: don’t trust commies. But, there is a certain type of libertarian who jumps on the bandwagon of any Left-wing movement that sorta kinda maybe sounds like it’s after the same goals and then believes that the commies will let him be, because “we’re on your side brah”.

        Libertarians who support BLM and Antifa are like this video:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jCpUMUezzY

        The mob doesn’t care numbskulls and all commies are trash

      • Chipwooder

        “Left-libertarians” are either deluded libertarians or lying Marxists.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        They read too much Koch shit and think libertarianism means loving sex parties, coke, but also whatever cultural issue the woke whites want. Just morons overall.

      • Urthona

        Oh he’s a libertarian? Terrific.

        My people don’t need this bad press.

      • Suthenboy

        You might want to think about dropping that label. There are so many closet commies, fruit loops and crazies calling themselves Libertarian.
        Why do you need a label anyway. Good arguments are better than labels.

      • cyto

        No true libertarian would allow themselves to be labeled….

        Oh, wait…

      • grrizzly

        Probably a Jo Jorgensen supporter.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        He’s a stupid 17 year old who threw himself in the middle of an extremely volatile situation with zero guidance.

        Whatever his political leanings, he never saw this possibility and the adults in his life failed miserably.

      • Chipwooder

        While I certainly hope fervently that either the charges are dropped or he is aquitted, I agree. I’m prepared to defend myself and my family with deadly force, but I’m not going out to find trouble, that’s for damned sure. This is not a game, and he learned that the hardest way possible.

      • leon

        Whatever his political leanings, he never saw this possibility and the adults in his life failed miserably.

        This. Like i said earlier today, my parents told me as a kid to never go “watch a mob/riot” cause that can only lead to trouble. And this was back when riots never happened.

  27. DEG

    Idaho House of Representatives votes to end Lil Rona Panic

    Today lawmakers in Idaho’s House voted to advance a resolution that ends Idaho Governor Brad Little’s Coronavirus Emergency Declaration.

    The resolution effectively lifts all restrictions across the state. Lawmakers voted and passed the resolution 48-20 amid a special session that the Governor called to deal with liability laws and mail-in voting concerns.

    The resolution now heads to the Senate and if it passes the Governor’s Emergency declaration, that he put in place back in March, is over.

  28. Viking1865

    Flipping through wikipedia came across the article for “Soviet cuisine”

    “Soviet cuisine, the common cuisine of the Soviet Union, was formed by the integration of the various national cuisines of the Soviet Union, in the course of the formation of the Soviet people. It is characterized by a limited number of ingredients and simplified cooking.”

    Damn state capitalism!!!!!!!

    • Rhywun

      “The Soviet people”

      WTF?

      • Chipwooder

        No time for petty nationlism, tovarsich

      • grrizzly

        Советский народ. That was the standard way to refer to the population of the Soviet Union. And surely some dishes from the Caucuses or Central Asia got popular in the rest of the country.

  29. Chipwooder

    “Journalists” just flat out making shit up now:

    Lois Romano
    @loisromano
    Andy, you left out that the murderer was a 17 year old white supremacist.
    Quote Tweet

    Andy Ngô
    @MrAndyNgo
    · 22h
    I’ve been speaking w/journalists in #Kenosha who’re covering the BLM riots. They’ve witnessed & have recorded antifa black bloc participating in organized violence using Portland-style tactics. One tells me they’re pressuring black youths to participate in property destruction.
    10:14 AM · Aug 26, 2020

    Thus far, not a single solitary scrap of evidence that this kid is in any way a white supremacist, you diseased Politico cunt.

    • Rebel Scum

      A 17 y.o. white-supremacist also shot up that school in FL. It is known.

    • Fatty Bolger

      not a single solitary scrap of evidence that this kid is in any way a white supremacist

      Too late. The narrative was already written.

      • leon

        Who needs evidence when you already have the narrative. Besides the kid was a libertarian, and that is just a dog whistle for white supremacy.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      The only reporters who were there, The Daily Caller, who also provided video of the shooting said he was a libertarian that supported BLM, but opposed the riots. That kids was an idiot. Commies are rabid animals, never align with them- they’ll consume you

      • juris imprudent

        We could nominate him for a Felix Dzerzhinsky award.

  30. Chipwooder

    Here’s a question – much hay being made of the kid not being a resident of Kenosha. Where, pray tell, were the guys he shot from? Local boys?

      • Chipwooder

        As I assumed.

  31. tarran

    At this afternoon’s all employees quarterly presentation, the head of HR announced all employees would be ‘invited’ to participate in meetings where they would be speaking with other employees to improve our company’s inclusiveness and awareness about the different forms of racism. We were told that we would be getting meeting invites shortly.

    So, we are going to have maoist struggle sessions. This is a good company, and our woke head of HR, who was hired one year ago, appears to me to be doing her best to destroy the culture of respect and professionalism and to substitute a culture of racial and sexual discrimination in its place.

    • leon

      Can you say you are disinclined to acquiesce to their request?

      • Chipwooder

        Means no.

      • tarran

        My plan is very simple: I’m going to respectfully decline to participate. I will decline all meeting invites, etc. I am, however, going to decline to actually argue or discuss the reasons why. I will tell them I decline to attend and that’s that.

        I think I have a 1 in 20 chance of being fired. I give myself a 19/20 chance of out-waiting them. And if they do fire me, then this place has become a place not worth working at anymore.

      • KSuellington

        Right on. We all need to pushback against this shit however we can.

    • Chipwooder

      They truly are locusts that devour everything and leave behind a barren wasteland.

  32. leon

    I wonder if you will see any pushback in redder states that make wanton property destruction an offense that justifies lethal force?

    • EvilSheldon

      Probably not.

      The dirty little secret about red states, is that they’re not all that happy with the peons being able to defend themselves, either.

      • leon

        Government never really is.

      • cyto

        It is right there in the name… state. Red state. Blue state..

        State gonna state.

    • leon

      I mean.. what guy hasn’t had that happen to them before?

      • Not Adahn

        The risk of penile fracture outweighs the style points.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I think they call that the clam-smash.

  33. Ted S.

    Cool links, bro!

    • Not Adahn

      They are scrubbing all the Kenosha links and replacing them.

  34. leon

    The best argument for abolishing the state monopoly on police is to realize that they claim the sole right to keep you and your property safe from criminals, and then refuse to do so.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    [Soviet cuisine] is characterized by a limited number of ingredients and simplified cooking.

    aka “gruel”

    • Not Adahn

      I remember on one of the Tony Bourdain shows, he was in… Moscow? St. Petersburg? Anyway, he had to go track down some old lady to make a “traditional” dish that was fish, hard-boiled eggs and greens baked in a pie. The babushka only knew how to make it in a way thay filled a sheet pan. She was not interested in having any of it when it was done.

    • leon

      I never knew i was a Soviet Cook.

  36. The Late P Brooks

    The dirty little secret about red states, is that they’re not all that happy with the peons being able to defend themselves, either.

    No kidding. Bullock repeatedly vetoed Constitutional Carry because he cops told him to.

    I wonder why that isn’t in a campaign ad.

  37. Brochettaward

    How can I First if there’s no PM links? This is…OUTRAGEOUS

    • leon

      Foiled again

    • UnCivilServant

      Perhaps you will learn to see the truth – there is no First.

    • kinnath

      Don’t worry, you still managed to be a dick.

    • Ted S.

      I beat you to commenting on the lack of links anyway, so you don’t get a First.

  38. KibbledKristen

    Is anyone having DTs from no links?

    • UnCivilServant

      I was assembling miniatures.

    • Brochettaward

      *knocks over all the trash cans*

    • Ted S.

      I’m not having Donald Trumps, thank you very much.

  39. Ted S.

    Anybody heard of Survivor Corps?

    Apparently they’re claiming to be getting all sorts of wacky symptoms as long-term effects of coronavirus. I heard an interview with one of them today, and it was hilariously breathless.

    Coronavirus-induced lupus? Why the hell haven’t any of the other coronaviruses caused this?

    • EvilSheldon

      And they say that victim cred isn’t really a thing…

    • leon

      Psychosomatic is a thing

  40. KSuellington

    So it looks like Kanye has officially made in on the Minnesota ballot. I think that and his being on the Colorado ballot will easily Hans those two states to Trump. He is gonna win by a bigger margin than last time.

    • cyto

      Colorado is 4% black. I really don’t think Kanye is a game changer in Colorado.

  41. The Late P Brooks

    Apparently they’re claiming to be getting all sorts of wacky symptoms as long-term effects of coronavirus.

    Were any of them turned into newts?

  42. The Other Kevin

    Looks like that 17 year old “libertarian” is one of us, and he was in charge of today’s links.

    • Sean

      *applause*

  43. The Late P Brooks

    So, we are going to have maoist struggle sessions. This is a good company, and our woke head of HR, who was hired one year ago, appears to me to be doing her best to destroy the culture of respect and professionalism and to substitute a culture of racial and sexual discrimination in its place.

    E-mail that to the individuals on the Board of Directors.