Wednesday Morning Links

by | Sep 30, 2020 | Daily Links | 487 comments

Good morning my Glibs and Gliberinas! And what a glorious morning it always it was is!

 

Last night’s debate did not disappoint as it was an absolute shitshow.

 

Telemundo poll had Trump winning the debate by 66%.

 

DNI declassifies document alleging Russian collusion hoax was Hillary Clinton’s idea and Obama was briefed.

 

More video evidence of Ilhan Omar’s cash for votes harvesting scheme.

 

Tulsi Gabbard introduces bill banning ballot harvesting.

 

New York sees 40% bankruptcy rise.

 

Disney to cut 28,000 employees.

 

That’s all I got for today.  I’ll leave you with a song and move along with my day.

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Banjos

Banjos

Wife of sloopy, mother to three bright, curious, and highly active young girls. Perpetually exhausted.

487 Comments

  1. Scruffy Nerfherder

    It’s hard to feel bad for Disney, given that they own ESPN and ABC.

    • Nephilium

      And Marvel, and 20th Century Fox, and Hulu, and Star Wars, and…

    • Swiss Servator

      When the Mouse is shedding that many people…yow!

    • PieInTheSky

      I blame the nba bubble

    • AlexinCT

      These are all likely to be progs that were hardcore on the side of these lockdowns and the political class wrecking the economy to get rid of bad orange man. That company is one woke fucking entity. That having been said, I find no joy in people’s lives being ruined.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Creative destruction is necessary.

        This isn’t particularly creative, but it is probably somewhat self-inflicted.

      • Sensei

        Expressed my feeling here as well.

      • Homple

        They joined the millions of employees and owners of businesses whose lives were ruined by the politicians who parlayed tbe Wuhan virus scare into dictatatorships.

    • Gdragon

      South Park tonight, right? I love when they do Disney/Mickey Mouse stuff.

  2. hayeksplosives

    And what a glorious morning it always it was is!

    Moar cafeve?

    Mornin, Banjos!

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      “This debate was a good example of something we touched on in today’s show. The conversation, and the topics of conversation, are all framed in the left’s terms: Trump is pressed on his taxes, but Biden gets a pass on his corruption. Trump is ordered to distance himself from the “Proud Boys”, whom 90 per cent of Americans have never heard of, but Biden isn’t asked about the Democrat mobs 90 per cent of Americans see on TV every night rampaging across Minneapolis, Atlanta, Rochester, Louisville…”

      Sounds about right.

      • AlexinCT

        Oh, that’s accurate.

        This thing was basically an attempt to help Biden get past his own issues. It devolved into a shitshow precisely because of that.

      • Idle Hands

        and wallace is going to be the closest thing to a neutral moderator.

      • Hyperion

        ^this^

        Next time it will be a CNN hack. It’s our turn, we already gave Trump the Fox News conservative guy!

        Joe Biden, what’s your favorite flavor of ice cream and tell us how it was when you were surviving on the streets of Scranton as a young man, it must have been so hard, but you’ve endured.

        Donald Trump, why are you the worst president in history and why do you want to destroy the earth for fun and profit? And tell us why you’re such a racist and rapey rapist.

      • Overt

        “and wallace is going to be the closest thing to a neutral moderator.”

        No. I said this on TOS- Chris Wallace was always a trojan horse. “Sure, it’s fox news, so the conservatives get one of theirs for the debates!” But in fact, Chris Wallace is either a Never Trumper or a died in the wool democrat. I have seen that for months and months of his coverage. I actually think Schully (from CSPAN) is the real neutral arbiter.

        Chris Wallace was a trap, and nobody is saying it outloud because for liberal stations, it means admitting that Fox News isn’t complete Trumpaloo land. And for Fox News, it means admitting that they aren’t as straight and true as they claim.

      • Idle Hands

        We will see. But I do agree I’ve been telling people that Wallace is more of a conventional cathedral operative.

  3. Scruffy Nerfherder

    I took drugs and passed out last night. What’d I miss?

    • Nephilium

      The Yankees dominated against the Indians in a 12-3 loss for the good guys.

      Still better then watching the debate.

      • Rhywun

        I should have watched that and I don’t even like baseball.

      • Ted S.

        Ferencvaros qualified for the Champions League for the first time in 25 years.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        The Mighty Magyars are back baby!

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        Nem tudom futbal.

      • Chipwooder

        Yankees dominated……loss for the good guys…….

        Something’s not computing for me here!

        It was a fun night for me, as my son played his first fall ball game for the 10-12 Yankees AND the actual Yankees kicked ass.

    • Ted S.

      Helen Reddy and Mac Davis died.

      • Apples and Knives

        Mac Davis died?! Damn. Best quarterback Dallas ever had.

    • PieInTheSky

      taking drugs and passing out is the opposite of missing out

    • Idle Hands

      I personally curled up in a ball and wept for the dark age we are embarking on while laughing manically at the thought of Joe Biden and Donald Trump debating.

  4. hayeksplosives

    Re: the Telemundo Trump advantage. I was talking with one of my employees from Guam and one with close ties to Mexico.

    The lady from Guam remarked on the BLM thing and “woke” language and apologizing for centuries old words or deeds: “Nobody else cares about that stuff. They don’t know why America is obsessed with it.”

    Telemundo audience might be a reflection of desire for a strong leader, not a bleeding heart race/cis apologist.

    • PieInTheSky

      . I was talking with one of my employees from Guam – so you are exploiting POCs? shame.

      • slumbrew

        “Employees” is code for “orphans”

      • Not Adahn

        Guamanians have superior senses of balance, which they need to survive the constant flipping over of their Island.

      • PieInTheSky

        I would have guessed guamish

      • CPRM

        Oh, they fuckin hate that one.

      • Gdragon

        I liked on “The Critic” when they called them “Guami Bears”

      • Pope Jimbo

        When that dude screws up, do you pull him in and chastise him? You know chewing Guam out?

  5. SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

    *scrolls through links*

    nope, nope, nope nope nope, nope. All too depressing.

    Nice music though.

    Mornin Banjos!

  6. blackjack

    Mornin’ Banjos

    All the red-pilled people were disappoint at Trump for not being smooth and slick, but Biden was 100% fact free. Wallace was a typical mainstream hack desperately trying to prop up his rambling and frail preferred candidate. I feel like I took drugs and passed out too.

    • Rhywun

      Gotta say I’m surprised at much of the media saying Trump won. I expected a thousand variations of “Biden wiped the floor with Trump”.

      • AlexinCT

        In a rigged debate where Trump had to deal with a negative format and Biden and Wallass, he managed not to let them do the gotcha they were hoping for. That all by itself gave him the win.

      • Swiss Servator

        Biggest thing I am seeing is “It was a farce, we all lost”.

      • AlexinCT

        That happened decades ago when these people completely inundated the system with inept credentialed asshats Swiss…

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        The media isn’t saying that. The Red Meat for Red Voters media is telling you that and knows you won’t check for yourself.

        From the Town Hall article:

        VERDICT: President @realDonaldTrump WINS ??

        CSPAN: ? Trump (53% Trump; 29% Biden)

        Telemundo: ? Trump (66% Trump; 34% Biden)

        CNN: ? Trump (3 votes Trump; 1 vote Biden of decided voters)

        Actual CNN: Post-debate CNN poll: Six in 10 say Biden won the debate

        Town Hall, Breitbart, et al are shit news sources who know their readers don’t know anything. They aren’t unique on this, but that doesn’t make it true.

      • leon

        I’ll agree that the “Trump wiped the floor” coverage is going to be politically motivated… But picking CNN as the bellweather seems to be an unstable alternative too.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        I’m only pointing out that this OP linked news article is full of shit. I don’t have an opinion on who won or lost the debate, because I didn’t watch it and don’t care about it.

        Of course CNN is also a shit news sources who know their readers don’t know anything. I’ve never suggested or thought otherwise.

      • leon

        Well i never suggested that you were wrong about the shit sources coming from the RIGHT!!!!

        / Violent agreement spirals out of control

      • Hyperion

        “Gotta say I’m surprised at much of the media saying Trump won.”

        Yeah, me too. I was expecting gushing articles from CNN. Didn’t happen. It’s bad for Biden, as far as perceptions go, Trump won.

        Won’t effect poll numbers, which also don’t matter. Biden’s sliding down again already, but the polls are badly skewed in dem’s favor, for obvious reasons.

    • Chipwooder

      From the little I watched (not live, just clips) and the transcripts I’ve read, Biden wasn’t drooling and incoherent, but he did appear old and kind of feeble. He was reliant on Chris Wallace to be his attack dog.

      Trump was Trump. Blustery, obnoxious. He did land some decent shots, but his constant interruptions aren’t going to impress anyone who isn’t already in the bag for him. He would have been better off letting Biden ramble into the kind of verbal diarrhea he’s prone to. He didn’t help himself when he didn’t challenge the Charlottesville “very fine people” bullshit.

      Chris Wallace was working damned hard to prop Biden up.

    • gbob

      I’m still pissed that those two assholes cockblocked me last night. Bottle of wine, cuddled up with my gal, stoned enough to get through all this. Should be fine.

      Nope. Representing the suburban woman, my woman fumed all night. Would have been fine, except that I stupidly spoke up to defend a gasbag I don’t like agai st a garbage i like less.

      I did not get laid. Go ahead and destroy our economy. I’m old. I don’t care. Keep me from. Sex? Thats unforgivable.

    • Hyperion

      It’s not really possible to debate Biden. His style is just too awkward and clownish. He did this to Ryan to perfection. He lies non-stop, does not care, and always has the moderator in his corner. But that was a less tired and senile SloJo. Trump could let him destroy himself at this point, by just letting him talk. But Trump cannot do it, his only style is what you saw last night, bull in a china shop. Sometimes that works, sometimes not. Biden’s achilles heel is Biden, just let the old fool talk himself into gaffe after gaffe.

      • Fatty Bolger

        He lies non-stop, does not care

        I remember him doing that to Palin, too, just clearly making shit up as he went along. But I’m not even sure he knows he’s doing it. He’s like a living demonstration of George Costanza’s famous quote: “It’s not a lie, if you believe it.”

  7. PieInTheSky

    Telemundo poll had Trump winning the debate by 66%. – FAKE NEWS

    • Swiss Servator

      *AHEM*

      “Noticias falsas”

  8. PieInTheSky

    New York sees 40% bankruptcy rise. – I have a sneaking suspicion there is a leftist somewhere who thinks well if you can’t handle a little shutdown you should not be in business.

    • Ted S.

      Our piece of shit governor actually said that the people put out of work by his lockdowns should have gotten essential jobs.

      • Idle Hands

        yeah that was rage inducing. pretty convenient he’s the one who gets to arbitrarily decide whose essential.

      • gbob

        I’m a homer by nature. I love my city. I’ll even stick up for my shitty state. Cumo can go fuck himself. If not for my grandson in all but law, I wojld get the fuck out of here for good.

    • Nephilium

      They already said exactly that when the shutdowns were going to be for two weeks.

  9. Tundra

    Good morning, Banjos!

    Well, I don’t think you’re surprised that I heartily approve of your musical selection.

    Instead of watching the shitshow, I went to bed early. Looks like I made the right choice.

    We’re no strangers to Dem election cheating here, but I don’t know how you can possibly have a free and fair election when the assholes get caught on tape. But naturally, nothing will happen. Fucking nutless GOP.

    So if I’m reading your last couple lynx correctly, shutting down vast portions of the economy for seven months is a bad plan? Who would have thunk it?

    Fuck, what a depressing news morning.

    Maybe some more of the good stuff will help.

    Oh yeah. Have a great day, people!

    • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

      Fucking nutless GOP.

      Genuine question… what options are available to them right now?

      • Tundra

        Noise. Lawsuits.

      • AlexinCT

        So a little bit of grandstanding that will later be used to rally the idiots that vote for the corruption in a state that will just pretend justice was served when they sweep it all under the rug?

      • Tundra

        Maybe. But if you had any balls at all, wouldn’t you even try?

        Listen, this has always been a blue state. Always. But the old DFL was nothing like what’s happening now. I know plenty of dems who are reacting to this in the same way I am. While we were trying to make a living and raise a family things went badly sideways.

        I get tired of people giving us the ‘well, you voted for it’ horseshit. Because that’s not fucking true. And red states aren’t immune, either. The lefties have done a great job of owning the institutions – they are running the armed forces, FFS!

        I have no goddamn answer. I do know that most individuals hate this shit. They’ve been so conditioned to play the tribal game, though, that the thought of working with the other side to remove a common enemy is unthinkable. Until that changes, I’m worried.

      • AlexinCT

        Maybe I got this wrong, but the few people that tried this in your state a while back were then persecuted by overzealous bureaucrats with an agenda to get revenge, thus discouraging any future actions. I may be wrong.

        Don’t get me wrong Tundra, I hear you. But the reality is that once the democrats take a hold on power everything turns into a shitshow and nothing will change that. They rig the system so no matter how bad it gets, there is no escaping it. They have done this in numerous states (mine is another one with the same problem) and now they plan to go national with it.

        I used to believe it was crazy to think that the only way to fix the corruption of the totalitarian left was through bloodshed to remove them from the institutions they have infested, but the more I see the left in action, the more obvious it is to me that these people want to revert to a system of masters and serfs, with them perpetually in charge, no mater how corrupt, inept, decadent, or destructive they are.

        The left talks about justice and equality (of outcome) but the serfs are just useful idiots, and the masters are some of the most cravenly evil people you will ever meet. I am with you that those of us without recourse hate this shit, but unless you are willing to go out in a blaze of glory, thus ruining the lives of those close to you, there is no answer. You can’t fight these people through the system of laws, because, as the last 4 years have proven, they are never held accountable while the system is used against any of use that dare challenge them and their corrupt ways.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        this is the frustration that many of us feel right now. I don’t want to resort to violence. I am willing to put up with a lot to avoid violence. If there was a path, no matter how bleak, that avoids violence, I’m gonna take it.

        I haven’t seen that path yet. We have two options. Submit or resist. The question in my mind isn’t if, but when the violence erupts in a widespread two-way fashion. The point of no return was back in June.

        Maybe I’m a fatalist, maybe I’m being dramatic. I’m certainly not the type to initiate violence, but I know that I’m on the pacifist side of the the spectrum. If I feel the way that I do, it amazes me that those with more militaristic personalities haven’t snapped.

      • AlexinCT

        Most people that understand violence and are not totally crazy will want to avoid it at all costs Thrashy. It is not pretty. It is not glorious. It is not something good people ever get comfortable with. That having been said, there are unfortunate times where there is no option. I don’t feel we are there yet, but we are heading for it.

    • Ted S.

      I watched a movie instead. Specifically, the 1929 version of “The Last of Mrs. Cheyney”.

  10. Rhywun

    Well. Hollywood celebs are unhappy. I guess that means Trump won.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      It’s a safe bet that if Hollywood celebs are unhappy, it’s good for everyone.

  11. Rebel Scum

    Last night’s debate did not disappoint as it was an absolute shitshow.

    Watched the Crowder stream so I didn’t hear all of it. Biden/Wallace trotted out the Charlottesville lie again. Trump didn’t address it but shouldn’t have to at this point.

    And of course there was the talking over each other, Biden’s joker smile when he knows he is defeated but is going to bullshit a response anyway, and Trump jabbed a lot but didn’t strike as hard as he could have. I found the whole affair entertaining though.

  12. limey

    Good morning, fellow stooges, uSeFuL iDiOtS, and other assorted drones, toadies, and shills for the VRWC. I cannot yet comment on the debate because I have not yet received my talking points from the rIgHt WiNg ThInKtAnKs to counter the independently formed, thoughtful, and reasoned analysis from the Blue Checkmarks.

    • PieInTheSky

      Can one be a useful idiot if one’s ideology has 0 influence?

      • limey

        Whoa there, Pie, it sounds like you’re relying too much on reality to make that argument. [Popular internet search engine] for “libertarian” and “useful idiot”, and you will see there are plenty of totally air-tight arguments to show you how wrong you are.

      • Swiss Servator

        Yes, but simply a bit less “useful”.

      • Not Adahn

        Almost everyone can be used as biomass, and literally everyone can be used as ballast.

      • UnCivilServant

        Human density ballast is less useful than stone or metal density ballast.

      • Not Adahn

        You make do with what you’ve got.

  13. UnCivilServant

    sheet… since september was a three payday month, and I got my STAR refund, I just threw almost $2,400 at the Morgage. I am only required to pay $665/month. Oh well, that much closer to being out of debt (my current financial goal)

    • PieInTheSky

      I know people who, depending on the rate, think paying debt is a bad idea if you could invest more profitably.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        often, those people wholly ignore risk in the equation. Not to say that it isn’t true sometimes, but chasing the interest rate gets a lot of people in trouble.

      • PieInTheSky

        True. In Romania interest is high. But if I think of my previously mentioned Low Country friend with a 1.8% per year fixed rate mortgage… then again investment opportunities are hard to figure right now

      • Tundra

        I know people who just want the freedom of no debt. To each his own.

      • UnCivilServant

        I am in that camp. I want to reach the status of not owing anybody money.

      • UnCivilServant

        Oooo… at this rate I’ll have my house and car paid off at around the same time.

      • PieInTheSky

        then you can but a new car !

      • UnCivilServant

        This only gets you more debt.

        I’ll drive this car until it’s not viable anymore.

      • PieInTheSky

        Dude the automotive industry needs customers as well.

      • Gender Traitor

        I tend to keep my cars until the wheels fall off (once almost literally.) Only reason I’d trade in my Impreza before it falls apart would be to get something that could pull an A-Liner camper.

      • Spartacus

        I inherited some money from my MIL a few years back. It was just enough to pay off my mortgage. For the first time since high school, I am now completely debt-free: house and cars paid for, I pay my credit card in full every month, and I no longer care much about interest rates. My credit score hovers around 820.

        It’s a great feeling, and I highly recommend it.

      • robc

        You cant have fuck you money while still in debt.

  14. PieInTheSky

    LAPD Recruit Class 9/20–making history as our most diverse class ever.

    27 females

    African American – 2
    Hispanic -20
    Asian – 2
    Caucasian – 2
    Filipino – 1

    21 males

    African American – 13
    Hispanic – 6
    Asian – 0
    Caucasian – 2
    Filipino – 0

    https://twitter.com/LAPDHQ/status/1310786933677645824

    what does diverse mean again? And why mention 0- Filipino why not just omit the category?

    If they have an all female police soon they should make uniforms sexier.

    • Rhywun

      NYC is so woke we don’t even have any recruits this year. And a lot of the old-timers are quitting. #defund

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Defund the police…who hates the womenz again?

    • limey

      0 = placeholder to signal to potential recruits that a requirement for consideration is being Filipino? I sort of understand how Filipino communities might respond better to someone more familiar with their cultural background, but again, it seems like a step backwards into the intersectionality stupidity of categorizing everyone first by race/gender/whatever over and above the content of their character. I don’t know how the recruitment really plays out, just that they’ve chosen to spin it this way in a tweet for the zeitgeist. I don’t necessarily think changing the racial makeup of a police dept is really going to change much if the training and the culture remain the same. Does it really have an impact on how cops interact with people? Any good cops, regardless of race, are still in the firing line to be dragged as “race traitors”, “collaborators”, “Uncle Toms”, “reeking of whitness”, “white-adjacent”, or whatever by BLM and their associated network of astroturfed revolutionaries.

    • R C Dean

      5% Caucasian sounds pretty underrepresented to me.

      • AlexinCT

        Next you are going to tell me that we need to target the NFL * NBA and demand they make their players reflect the real composition of America?

        OK, I know. Nobody will ask for that. What they want is to fuck whitey (and they lump them Asians in this group these days) over.

      • limey

        And have them admit the absurdity of prioritizing identity representation over merit in top-level competitive sports? Don’t be ridiculous.

      • Fourscore

        All Asians are the same, a homogeneous conglomeration, much like white Americans

        /Not

  15. Nephilium

    So tangential to the debates the most recent Trump commercials are over the top insane. One is promoting peace in the Middle East, the other is promoting the return of Big 10 college football. I originally thought the Big 10 one was an ad for college football returning until the last couple of seconds.

  16. prolefeed

    Didn’t watch the debate last night, because then I’d have to bleach my eyes or something to block out the horror. But I just read the transcript.

    Takeaways:

    Can’t speak to tone of voice or body language, but Biden is not mentally gone as some have claimed. He was coherent and made a lot of his talking points.

    Trump is a right-statist. Biden is a left statist. Neither of them is libertarian. For example:

    Trump: I shut the economy down at the right time. Biden wants to shut it down now at the wrong time.

    Biden: The Green New Deal is not my plan. (About 20 seconds later) Under the GND, we will do this and that.

    Trump: Law and order. And law. And order. Did I say law AND order? I did. They’re the best.

    Biden: Trump killed 1 out of a thousand Blacks with this virus. Because he doesn’t care about them like I do. I care. A lot.

    Trump did a decent job of hammering Biden over the GND, talking about the enormous costs. He pushed back about a lot of stuff.

    Biden was clean … and articulate. Mostly. He didn’t, as far as I could tell, say even one thing that would advance individual liberty.

    From a libertarian POV, Trump was the less evil. Biden may be viewed as the winner simply by exceeding expectations that had been lowered into the dirt, by stringing together coherent sentences and making his statist talking points.

    The loser of the debate? Murica.

    • Rhywun

      Yeah, I tapped out after an hour or so – I think it was when Wallace claimed that “climate change” is a top issue for Americans. Uh… no.

      What I saw was a whole lot of “I hate everyone in this room”. Nobody was talking about issues that matter and/or in any way remotely related to reality.

      And Wallace played the “When did you stop beating your wife, Donald?” game throughout.

      • AlexinCT

        I tapped out before that it seems, cause I missed that idiocy…

    • Chipwooder

      I didn’t watch it live but I watched some clips. Biden was pretty clearly reading from a script. He was looking down at his podium constantly. Think it’s safe to say that’s why he sounded more coherent than usual.

    • Drake

      Biden’s last stroke killed whatever part of his brain keeps track of numbers. Even last night when he was amped up, he either misstated or hesitated every time he said a number. Lots of his gaffs on Twitter are him getting lost trying to remember a number like the number of covid dead.

  17. PieInTheSky

    The mythical land carrier! Complete with battleship turrets and WWII-era bridge controls!
    Tomi Väisänen gives it a far better art treatment than it deserves… it nearly seems plausible.

    https://twitter.com/ToughSf/status/1311229298527760385

    • Ted S.

      Tomi Väisänen

      Not to be confused with Tom of Finland

      • PieInTheSky

        Don’t let you know who see this

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      If that were ever attempted I’d give it a top speed of about 2 miles an hour.

    • Not Adahn

      Wouldn’t a vehicle that carries land just be a dump truck?

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        nukes move earth too

      • Gustave Lytton

        +1Project Ploughshare

    • CatchTheCarp

      The Japanese had a couple of hermaphrodite carrier/battleships in WWII…..they were not very useful ships. That land carrier is kind of cool.

      • Not Adahn

        So they’ve been into futanari even back then?

      • Sensei

        You mean like Akagi from what is a serious attempt at the “dumbest anime ever”?

        Akagi

      • AlexinCT

        Who is building the roads for it?

      • Not Adahn

        POWs?

  18. Rebel Scum

    Russian collusion hoax was Hillary Clinton’s idea and Obama was briefed.

    And nothing else happened.

    • AlexinCT

      Actually, Crossfire Hurricane happened…

      • Tres Cool

        Its a gas, gas, gas ?

  19. PieInTheSky

    But I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a book review written by an anonymous author and I’m having a hard time thinking of any reason why that would be ok. To assess the validity and fairness of the review, you need to know who wrote it.

    https://twitter.com/JillFilipovic/status/1311025810032283650

    ehm wha? since when?

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Whycome people are afraid of being sent to the re-education camps?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      How do I know who to cancel if they wont sign their work?

    • Chipwooder

      It’s Jill Filipovic, ENB’s buddy. Expecting anything to make sense from her is a fool’s errand.

    • Surly Knott

      When ad hominem becomes a foundational principle rather than a fallacy.

    • Lackadaisical

      How else would we know if they’re a cishet shitlord racist or a virtuous POC SJW?

  20. Rebel Scum

    Tulsi Gabbard introduces bill banning ballot harvesting.

    Be still my beating heart.

    • Drake

      If only her economics were a little better, she’d make a perfect running mate for Rand Paul.

      • Chipwooder

        A little better? They would need to be a lot better.

        I don’t think Tulsi Gabbard despises people like me, though, which sets her apart from 99% of Democrats. I don’t think she’s obsessed with accruing power to wield over masses she sees as beneath her. I think she’s a decent sort of person at heart, albeit one with some awful economic beliefs. I’ve never voted for a Democrat and probably never will, but if there were more like her I’d be willing to at least hear them out.

        All of that is probably why she appears to be a bit of a pariah in that party.

      • Rebel Scum

        Word.

      • Idle Hands

        pretty much. Also for all the reason’s you describe she’ll never be more than a congresswoman.

      • prolefeed

        Well, her dad was a Republican when he first started in the Hawaii legislature, then switched parties when he realized that would make things way easier on him in his districts.

        The Democrats didn’t want him. I listened to all their chatter (I was a legislative aide at the time), and he just wouldn’t toe party lines, for either side. He really pissed off the openly gay senators by running the eventually failed campaign to stop gay marriage.

        So, Tulsi got firsthand that it’s OK to be the lone voice of dissent in a room full of “allies” who hate you.

      • Chipwooder

        Interesting. Didn’t know any of that. It explains a lot about her.

      • Hyperion

        Tulsi’s one of the nice commies, like that hippy chick, not sure if anyone remembers her name, Marianne or something. Tulsi’s just not quite bright enough to realize how destructive her views are on economics. She means well, bless her heart.

        But watch out, because she’s going to switch parties because the dems are going to drive her out for wrong think. Ballot harvesting is a right!

      • Rebel Scum

        Trump needs to make Tulsi SecDef.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        As bad as she in on a number of issues, I’d vote for her in a hot minute if the Dems ran her at the top of a ticket, and I’ve only voted for R or no major party in the past.

        They are leaving $20 bills on the sidewalk.

      • leon

        ^^^^ Yup.

        Last Dem i voted for was the guy running against Orrin Hatch. Ceteres Paribus, i’d vote for Tulsi over what the other parties are throwing down.

      • Rebel Scum

        On top, on bottom. I’d take her either way.

  21. Not Adahn

    Can any Gulf Coast Glibs comment on the state of I-10? I’m planning the leg from Austin to Lake Wales and according to the internets, it should be ok to take the shorter route. But the web sites reporting this don’t fill me with a whole lot of confidence.

    • prolefeed

      Checked Waze – 16.5 hour drive predicted currently, with a half hour accident delay currently.

      Seems about how long it took me to drive Orlando to Austin a year or two ago.

      My experience with driving I-10 is that the kicker is accidents. A big accident can tie you up for hours, and there’s no alternate routes for vast stretches.

      And the bit where you veer off I-10 onto 75 in Florida is painfully slow going through endless retirement communities.

      • Chipwooder

        Going on I-10 though the Florida panhandle is the most boring stretch of driving imaginable. Just endless trees, like a tunnel. Whenever I used to have to drive between Pensacola and Tallahassee, I’d get drowsy as hell no matter how well rested I was.

      • banginglc1

        Going on I-10 though the Florida panhandle is the most boring stretch of driving imaginable.

        I-70 through Kansas would like a word.

      • Tundra

        This.

        1-80 through western NE and eastern CO is giggling, too.

      • prolefeed

        I-10 from midway between Austin and San Antonio, most of the way to El Paso, also begs to differ.

      • prolefeed

        When the most interesting thing in three hours of driving is stopping in Fort fucking Stockton to look at the big concrete roadrunner … that’s bored.

      • Mojeaux

        Having driven both I-70 through KS and I-80 through NE, CO, and WY, I-80 wins Sleepytown, but only because it’s flat through 3 states instead of 1.5 states.

      • Raven Nation

        As would I80 in Nebraska and I76 in Colorado

      • Swiss Servator

        That just means nobody here has been on I-55 Chicago to Saint Louis.

      • Ozymandias

        I have driven every stretch of road mentioned here: multiple times. They all popped into my head. Going east in Nebraska after you head north out of Denver is just BO-RING… but so is heading west from FL to the west coast on 10 – you can pick any number of utterly forgettable stretches of nothingness. There are some versions of that going north and south, too, including in Missouri. Then there’s that stretch of 40 into Oklahoma, or is it New Mexico??
        Then there’s the endless stretch of 70 going west in Kansas… Hey, I95 in Connecticut is no picnic either, mostly because it’s been under construction for my whole life. There’s a long stretch when you get in southern VA and into NC that’s just pine trees forever… and nothing else. BO-RING, and not even a good place to get coffee.
        There are long stretches of just commercial ag in Minnesota as you go east that will take the starch out of you, too.
        The interstates just are what they are – but if you’re trying to get somewhere quickly, yeah, they’re hella better than the local roads.

      • SDF-7

        I think it is less so now due to things building up — but for me it was always I-40 between Memphis and Little Rock.

        Unless endless rice fields are your thing, I suppose.

      • prolefeed

        I fortunately had my son along on that endless drive, so we had lively conversation to distract from that stretch. I actually prefer relaxed driving in stretches of roads like that, to driving near major cities and having to put all my mental bandwidth into watching out for drivers who might do stupid shite.

      • PieInTheSky

        How about this road I drive but non of you do?

      • Not Adahn

        Yeah, I’ve driven it too many times. I was mainly checking to confirm that it hadn’t been damaged by any of the various overhyped storms that Global Warming caused this year.

        The two things I hate about the drive are 1) Po-po, and 2) the 3/8″ thick layer of compressed insect corpses at the end of it.

      • Spartacus

        I remember seeing in a news report one bit of road in MS or AL that was washed out, but I don’t think it was part of I-10. Might have been US 90.

      • Unreconstructed

        When are you coming through Houston? Got time for a meetup?

  22. CPRM

    Imbibing some beer so I can slog through the debate audio. I hope you people are happy, I’m doing this for you!

    Can’t wait for SF’s take, it was so nice of them to do the debate on Tuesday so it’s fresh on Wednesday.

  23. Pine_Tree

    Didn’t watch. Read some of y’all’s commentary a few times along the way last night. Heard some commentary from a friend this morning.

    You know how you think something but don’t say/post it, and then afterwards wish you had just so you look all prescient? Well, for a few weeks I’ve been thinking that Biden’s handlers have been vampiring him so that he was on “morning time” for this debate. That is, he’s locked in the basement and a normal sleep for him is like 1100-2000 Eastern time. That would largely explain the “lid” things (mid-morning), and also his obviously more-messed-up condition during interviews or speeches at about that time. And so the debate was “first thing in the day” for him.

    Anyway, dunno if that really happened or not, but if I was the guy in charge of his handlers, that’s what I’da been doing.

    • limey

      Yeah, that makes sense. If Reagan was America’s first “9 to 5” president, then Biden could be it’s first “8pm to 5am” president, or something like that, depending on his appointments.

      • AlexinCT

        More like 8 to 12…

      • Chipwooder

        I thought that was Eisenhower.

    • Rhywun

      I dunno about Biden but I need a good three, four hours before I make sense in the morning.

      • limey

        I’m not sure what that’s supposed to say. It looks like you’ve got Finnish autocorrect on or something.

    • leon

      Yeah, but you also have an intense desire to torture politicians

  24. Drake

    There used to be a time when I could watch a debate and come away knowing each candidate’s political ideology and principles, and how those would translate into government policies. I got none of that last night. Trump seems to want to pump up the economy again without much ideology behind it.

    Biden kept talking about ranting about having plans. He wants to spend more money on protective equipment for businesses while raising their taxes. Not sure what that accomplishments other than growing government.

    Both of them were weirdly reluctant to talk details about anything.

    • creech

      Talking details just gets you picked apart by every holier than thou ideologue. See how a few inarticulate phrases by, say, a Libertarian candidate, brings down the wrath of “real libertarians” who then urge “real libertarians” to migrate to the GOP and “take it over.” Yeah, like I want to spend beautiful Fall weekends organizing my fellow committeemen to go door to door for POS like Arlen Specter, Rick Santorum, Jeff Sessions, John McCain or Mitt Romney. What, you think you’ll be allowed to “take over” a major political party without working your way up from the sewers?

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Libertarian candidate

        ??? Oh, you must mean the party that was skin-suited by the progressives.

      • robc

        I understand she has been dumb on the twitters, but her website policies are solid.

        As I dont pay any attention to the former, I have to assume the latter represents what she would do if the LP super-harvested votes ( like the SEC, if you aint cheatin, you aint winnin).

      • R C Dean

        I’m the opposite. The curated website policies are the eyewash, the spontaneous Twitter blurps are more likely to be genuine.

      • robc

        But I don’t read anyone’s twitter (except Iowahawk and sometimes links from Pie).

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I’m not being hyperbolic. She’s a very strong supporter of BLM, which is a Marxist front.

        I think we can safely say that any organization has been skin-suited once their leader starts spouting Progressive claptrap and aiding in movements to implement Marxism.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        See how a few inarticulate phrases by, say, a Libertarian candidate,

        If said Libertarian candidate wanted to convince this “real libertarian” to vote for her, she needed to stop talking like a prog. I hold no quarter for the type of libertarianism that accepts all of the left’s premises and then quibbles over implementation details.

      • robc

        Not so sure about that. I have often found the left is better at spotting real problems than the right, their solutions are then freaking evil. Are there problems with the police and no-knock raids and etc? Yes. Is BLM the right way to fix them? Absolutely not.

        Are there problems with big business lobbying? Yes. Is the solution BIGGER government? No, that is exactly backwards.

        And so on and so forth.

        Let the left identify the problems, then let libertarians fix them.

      • robc

        I think this is where the problem comes in. Certain types of people, and I am guessing Jo is one of them, makes the mistake of thinking that people that have properly identified a problem are half way to the solution and you can work with them. That is just wrong.

        It is dangerous, and it would worry me if Jo had even a halfway reasonable chance of winning. But since she won’t even get Johnson’s vote levels, it doesn’t bother me as much.

        I still don’t understand how Hornberger lost the nomination. He would be on point, I think.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        In my view, If I’m gonna protest vote, it needs to be a good protest. if I have to hold my nose to vote, I may as well pull the lever in self-defense.

      • straffinrun

        This is going to be an even bigger wasted opportunity than 2016 for the LP. At least Trump’s shtick was fun then. I can’t blame the LP too much because I didn’t do anything to force them to choose a good candidate. Then again, I don’t think voting for them as they give us Gary in Drag is gonna do anything good for the party, either.

      • leon

        The BLM thing… That seems to be mostly a fault of here speechwritter and social media manager. Is it too much to ask that she manage here own twitter account? I don’t think so, but most big wigs don’t so its not like she’s being unusual. The “backtrack” where she then claims to only support the movement and not the organization doesn’t really help when the movement seems perfectly fine with rioting too.

        To me there are a lot of problems with the LP. First and foremost is that i fundamentally do not agree with the mission of the LP. But getting beyond that, there are 2 related problems i have. First is that there seems to be a lot of calculated jabs on the part of high level people in the LP/ JoJo campaign, that are aimed at snubbing right libertarians. That’s fine, that’s how they want to run the campaign. I just won’t give them my vote. I think it’s foolish, but maybe they have better political insight than i do.

        The second, and more aggravating thing is the objective cowardice of the people running the LP. If they were just willing to say something actually radical, they might be able to differentiate themselves, rather than “the party in between Democrats and Republicans”. A lot of “beltway” libertarianism operates on the idea that the centrists are where a lot of the “politically homeless” people reside. That is silly. The moderates own both parties, and the only problem is that there are some who have a hard time choosing between either. But they are not looking for a third party solution. If the LP was radically courageous in supporting it’s principles, i think i would be more amiable to voting for them straight ticket.

      • PieInTheSky

        If the LP was radically courageous in supporting it’s principles, i think i would be more amiable to voting for them straight ticket. – that is not how political parties work.

      • Surly Knott

        Organizing a political party to reduce the power of politics is like organizing an orgy to reduce promiscuity.

      • leon

        Organizing a political party to reduce the power of politics is like organizing an orgy to reduce promiscuity.

        This, and you’re stepping into an arena where everyone – everyone – expects you to give them something, and you are basically promising them nothing. It won’t work. You are saying “Vote for me! I promise to not do anything for you! You’ll get libertarianism and you’ll like it!”. It’s the same idea as “If we make the federal courts libertarian, then everyone will be forced to live in a libertarian society” form of thinking. I have no interest in forcing other people to live under a regime they don’t want.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Organizing a political party to reduce the power of politics is like organizing an orgy to reduce promiscuity.

        Viking funeral director has a sad.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Jo’s problem identifications that turned me off:

        climate change – “but we can deregulated nuclear to help fix it” ?

        neo-racism – supporting firing the chick who posted all lives matter

        there was a third one, but I forget it… maybe she’s a bake the caker?

      • robc

        I agree on the latter two, but what is wrong with the first?

        Yeah, it is accepting that climate change is a problem, but if it leads to nuke power deregulation, I will take it!

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Yeah, it is accepting that climate change is a problem, but if it leads to nuke power deregulation, I will take it!

        Meh. for a protest candidate I’m not interested in a compromise where we cede the premise in exchange for something we’ll never get.

      • Lackadaisical

        Ya’ll are ruining my next article.

      • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

        Ya’ll are ruining my next article.

        Just think of your article as a delightful recap, or, if you will, a thread unroll.

    • AlexinCT

      Biden’s point was that he had plans – and when asked for details never shared squat if you go by the fact one of the few plans he has shared was doing the same shit Trump did for Kung Flu, only with more experts demanding we cripple the economy – and that made him the better candidate…

      When orange man pointed out Biden’s plans were more socialism, Biden tried to act indignant and Wallass came to his rescue.

      • banginglc1

        It was clear to me that Joe Biden had rehearsed scripted answers and was not going to stray from them.

      • Drake

        I kept hoping Trump would just ask him what those plans were, then mock the answers.

      • Rebel Scum

        I recall thinking that Hillary sounded scripted as well.

      • Rebel Scum

        Listen, fat. The details come when I am elected then that will be the issue.

    • limey

      I sort of see what they’re getting at, but it’s up to the individual, natch. Having a kind of psychological buffer zone between home and work “modes” perhaps? Just a cognitive training sort of thing? Kinda sorta y’know, hmm, like, yeah?

      • ChipsnSalsa

        “I sort of see what they’re getting at, but it’s up to the individual, natch.”

        You’re a funny one.

    • Drake

      When working at home, I sometimes get up and drive down to the coffee shop and back just to feel like I commuted.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      So grab some coffee and walk around the block. Sheesh.

      • Tundra

        Yes, old people call it a ‘routine’. Something you do every day. They same way. At the same time.

        It’s quite complex.

      • straffinrun

        First thing you should do whether you’re commuting, WFH or just have a day off. Get your ass outdoors for at least 15 minutes.

      • AlexinCT

        Good advice, yo…

      • Tundra

        Damn straight. Sunshine is your friend.

      • Chipwooder

        My wife thinks I say this just to burnish my image as a cranky misanthrope, but I usually can’t stand bright sunshine.

      • AlexinCT

        Did you get a visit from Pie or one of his countrymen since that “condition” started?

      • Fourscore

        I learned it as a kid, the greatest disinfectant. 2 hours fishing rejuvenates the soul, 4 hours the mind, 6 hours the body.

      • Sensei

        Agreed.

        Although outside of NYC most people here have living arrangements that are larger than a 1LDK.

      • straffinrun

        I live in a mansion.

      • Sensei

        One of my favorite bits of wasei eigo.

        Does it have a butler’s pantry?

      • Fatty Bolger

        Shhhhhh. Just let the kids think they invented something new. It’s cute.

    • mrfamous

      Folks could go to the gym. That is if such things are currently allowed to be open where they live.

    • Idle Hands

      Why do these people have this petulant need to reinvent concepts that have been around for hundreds of years as if they are some kind of cutting edge genius? Furthermore why do these writers and jorno’s indulge them?

  25. Scruffy Nerfherder

    SJWednesday: Vocab Edition

    Let’s talk about monosexism.

    You might be asking yourself, “What is monosexism?”

    Typically, we only discuss sexism in terms of gender, but it also has applicability to biases related to sexuality.

    Monosexism is synonymous with biphobia in many ways because it perpetuates the myth that a person can only truly be attracted to one gender. Monosexists reinforce binary thinking through their insistence that orientation is confined to the two polarities of either straight or gay.

    It’s time for everyone’s (least) favorite cliché: the promiscuous bisexual! (or pansexual!)

    Monosexism thrives in both straight and gay communities because everyone can agree that bisexuals just can’t keep it in their pants. Non-monosexuals are perceived as greedy, fickle, or simply attention-hungry. This includes bisexual people and pansexual people (who are attracted to individuals regardless of their gender or sex, including people outside the gender binary of woman and man.)

    The assumption is that bisexuality and pansexuality are purely physical, and therefore, a bi/pansexual person can never truly be satisfied if they are limited to a single, monogamous partner.

    One half of their desire is “neglected,” and therefore, the other gender represents increasingly tempting forbidden fruit before inevitable infidelity. We’re essentially the succubi of the queer community.

    • Chipwooder

      No, I absolutely am not asking myself that.

      • mrfamous

        Was gonna post exactly that

    • R C Dean

      “Let’s talk about monosexism.”

      Let’s not.

      • PieInTheSky

        and say we did ?

    • Tejicano

      OK.

      Now that you’ve talked about it we’re done. We can stop talking about it.

    • Mojeaux

      The only people who don’t like bisexuals are lesbians and (some) gay men.

      That whole LGBT community is toxic as hell.

  26. PieInTheSky

    So Romania passed 2000 cases of commie cold a day. yey.

  27. Rufus the Monocled

    I kept waiting for Biden to take a sip of egg nog. He should be in a cardigan.

    Trump pretty much winged things. He wasn’t going to let a deadweight like Biden take control. Not that he could have. He was clearly instructed to stick to the talking points and appeared rather meek. You wanted to pet him.

    Trump should have gone nuclear on the Charlottesville portion.

    I think Trump made his point and claim. He interrupted a lot but I think that was the strategy. Biden kept calm except for that ‘shut up man’ part. I say keep poking him. The meds eventually wear off. Heh.

    • Rebel Scum

      Trump should have gone nuclear on the Charlottesville portion.

      Dude condemned hat/bigotry/violence three times in three press conferences at the time, including neo-nazis and white-supremacists specifically. I can’t believe they (leftists/media) are still running with this lie. But I guess they have to given that Biden premised his campaign on this lie.

      • CPRM

        condemned hat

        !?!?!?!?! That motherfucker! After all the Hat has done for him?!

      • Rufus the Monocled

        I meant during the debate. Drop the hammer once and for all on that.

      • Swiss Servator

        Trump condemned that hat?!?!?!

      • Rebel Scum

        Hate*, even.

    • Not Adahn

      NPR referred to the “Deadly violence” at Charlottesville.

      Fortunately all the murders at the various BLM protests were neither deadly nor violent.

      • Idle Hands

        that’s because all the words uttered in charlottesville were just as bad as the violence that precipitated at that event. While the words at the BLM protests were good think and not deadly or violent and while there was some violence it was mostly peaceful.

    • The Other Kevin

      I agree. This was an opportunity for him to put that Charlottesville thing to rest, and paint Biden as a liar. “The video is out there, if you watch the whole thing you will see I never called white supremacists fine people, and in fact I condemned white supremacists several times. The fact that you based your campaign on this lie says more about you than it does about me. And by the way, Charlottesville is a city and there weren’t any corn fields around.”

      How hard was that?

      • creech

        Other Kevin for President! Not hard to say that at all, but Trump isn’t any quicker on his feet than Biden. I wonder if the debaters are allowed to bring props? Could Trump hold up a clipping from, say, the NYT and quote Biden in 2010 or himself in Feb. 2020 about Covid, and then turn to Biden and call him a liar that even the NYT acknowledges? Absent this kind of demonstration, the vast number of viewers will just think one or the other is lying when called out.

  28. PieInTheSky

    In other news the votes were finally counted and Sector 1 of Bucharest should have a new mayor, though now the incumbent want a recount.

  29. straffinrun

    Perfect animated GIF on the front page. I’ve had better debates with my wife after coming home at 3 am smelling of sardines.

    • PieInTheSky

      I did not know the Japanese ladies smell of specific fish

      • straffinrun

        Nah. Sometimes I get so drunk I accidentally eat the fishmonger’s asshole.

      • Sensei

        I’m not a fan of “uni”.

      • AlexinCT

        HM would be proud…

    • Rebel Scum

      Or was he.

      Biden: “I can’t keep track of all his ranting”

      Wallace: *laughs* “I’m having trouble myself”

      the mask is slipping, Chris #Debates2020

    • Agent Cooper

      Oooh. Zach Braff thinks X, thus I should think X.

  30. Rebel Scum

    C’mon, man. I’ll take a position when it becomes goddamned politically convenient.

    Moderator Chris Wallace mentioned calls to increase the size of the court or end the filibuster if Judge Barrett is confirmed and asked, “You call this a distraction by the president. But, in fact, it wasn’t brought up by the president. It was brought up by some of your Democratic colleagues in the Congress. So, my question to you is, you have refused in the past to talk about it, are you willing to tell the American people tonight whether or not you will support either ending the filibuster or packing the court?”

    Biden responded, “Whatever position I take on that, that will become the issue. The issue is, the American people should speak. You should go out and vote. You’re in — voting now. Vote and let your senators know how strongly you feel.”

    • CPRM

      Whatever position I take on that, that will become the issue.

      Cmon man! You don’t need to know nothin bout me except I ain’t Trump!

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Not denying they’re going to upset the status quo is a tacit admission that’s what they want to do.

  31. PieInTheSky

    EUROPE: A network of international long-distance high speed passenger services spanning much of western Europe could be launched by 2025 if proposals announced by Germany’s Federal Minister for Transport Andreas Scheuer at a virtual conference of Europe’s transport ministers on September 21 are taken forward.

    The proposals are seen as an important contribution to climate change mitigation and as ‘an opportunity for a new message from railways’.

    Branded TEE2.0 and envisaged as a symbol of European co-operation, the plans echo the Trans-Europ-Express network launched by seven national railways in 1957 at the instigation of former Netherlands Railways President Dr den Hollander.

    As with the original TEE trains, TEE2.0 services would operate only during the day, but Scheuer’s plans envisage that they would be matched by an expanded network of TEEN overnight links, reflecting the resurgence of interest in night trains that has built on the ‘flight shame’ movement in Scandinavia.

    https://www.railwaygazette.com/passenger/trans-europ-express-renaissance-proposed/57409.article

    choo choo

    My uncle who does not like flying used to go to London by train… I think it took like 3 days but he did spend a night in Budapest in a hotel because you could never count on the Romanian train to get to Budapest in time to catch the train leaving from Budapest to Vienna

    • SDF-7

      You know who else wanted Germans to get people on trains….

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      Come on man. I’ve spent a lot of time in Budapest. Your uncle just wanted to visit the brothels.

  32. Not Adahn

    USPSA Nationals is providing the range officers with a couple of shirts. The sent me an email to confirm they got my size correct… but instead of just my info, they sent me the entire spreadsheet of staff.

    There are a LOT of fat guys working this event.

  33. Rebel Scum

    Orange Man Bad.

    Carville said, “Look, I would hate to accumulate the cumulative years of this panel has, you and the four members of the panel. All of us have seen a lot in our lives. We’re totally ill-equipped to comment on something like that because there’s nothing in history that informs us to what we just saw. If you look just the number of times Chris Wallace should get combat pay if you just look at the number of times he had to chastise Trump. I can’t count it in the back of my mind. I mean, this event was nothing like this has ever happened in politics, in presidential politics. I never thought I’d say this, but Vice President Biden is going to have to think long and hard whether they want to put the country through this again. This accomplished nothing for Trump, and I think Biden did fine. But it was not a very good night for American democracy at all. I don’t think. It was tough to watch.”

    • R C Dean

      Love the admission that it’s the moderators job to chastise the Republican.

  34. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Thoughts on the shitbate:
    1. Trump dominated but it wasn’t a knockout by any means. If I had to give assign it a number I’d say Trump 55 Biden 45.
    2. Biden did better than expected by not dying on stage or soiling himself so it wasn’t a true loss.
    3. Chris Wallace sucks.
    and
    4. I’d be surprised if more than a dozen people nationwide changed their minds one way or the other.

    • straffinrun

      I’m just checking out clips, but Wallace was horrendous in all of them. His idea of being balanced was to phrase his questions in the most partisan hackey (be it libtard or conservatard) way possible.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        It sucked, hopefully the others will be better if they even happen as the MSM is agitating to see them canceled.

    • Tejicano

      ” by not dying on stage or soiling himself”

      Hmm, depends.

      • Sensei

        Boo!

  35. banginglc1

    I know why they won’t do it . . . they want the shitshow . . .but I would love for microphones to just turn off a debates at the allotted time limit.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      lock them in booths, put a clock on the screen and cut off their mics inside when it hits 0…don’t let them out at the end.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        They should wear a collar and get shocks of escalating intensity for every two seconds they go over. They could even turn it into a little contest to see who could go the longest.

  36. Scruffy Nerfherder

    SJWednesday: WHARRRRGARBL

    We need folks to literally pass the mic because white, apolitical bo-po influencers—especially [those who are] thin and conventionally attractive—never include race in their analysis. They never think beyond “It’s cool to not think of foods as a good-and-bad binary.” They don’t talk about fatphobia: about how we’re afraid of becoming fat, distancing [ourselves from] friends [who] are fat—and don’t get me started on culturally avoiding dating fat people. When we don’t talk about fatphobia and politicize it as a form of oppression, we’re not fully understanding the layers of structural oppression.

    We’re left thinking [about] fatphobia as someone not liking being fat or not enjoying the beauty of being fat. We forget that there are, for instance, medications I can’t take because they’re not dosed right for my body. Plan B is only dosed for folks [who are] up to 175 pounds! I can’t even fit into all the medical equipment at the doctor’s [office] because it’s not designed for my body. I get paid less. I am less likely to be hired in a job interview. My body size is used as a punchline in movies and television. I’m prohibited from accessing fertility treatment [if I’m] over a certain BMI. Some adoption agencies won’t allow me to adopt [for the same reason]. I can’t find clothes in a brick-and-mortar store; if my suitcase [were] to get lost while I’m traveling, forget about it. I can [only] find clothes online. Plus-size stores don’t carry clothes at the larger end of the spectrum in the store, because god forbid we decide to shop in public.

    So when I talk about colonialism, when I talk about Palestine, when I talk about the project of U.S. empire, it’s really important to make sure that fatphobia is understood as a part of all those things. Body size compounds the experience of marginalization if the individual is already racialized, gendered, queered, disabled, Indigenous, and living under occupation. Body-image surveillance can look like food policing or fat shaming. The war on obesity has made healthism into a weapon of the nation-state in order to treat fat as [a] disease. These are all structural and systemic issues that go far beyond my reflection in a mirror.

    • leon

      I think she just said all palestinians are fat.

      • Not Adahn

        You try surviving on a a diet of hummus and couscous and tell me how svelte you wind up.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Healthism? No, being fat in and of itself is not a disease but it makes diseases much more likely to occur. It also makes you more likely to become prey in the environment that humans evolved in. So subconsciously seen as a liability to the tribe.

    • Ted S.

      I wonder what this person thinks about all the control governments have grabbed for themselves due to the coronavirus.

    • R C Dean

      We get it. You’re fat, and you hate yourself.

    • Idle Hands

      “No Fluffy Self-Love
      Sonalee Rashatwar Is Returning Body Positivity to Its Political Roots”

      lmao. I can’t even.

    • Chipwooder

      These people are taken seriously in contemporary America. We’re utterly fucked.

  37. PieInTheSky

    This ad for Uyghur slaves is unpleasantly similar to ads posted in town squares by Roman slave-dealers, and familiar to anyone who has studied Roman law.

    Authoritarian capitalism, represent.

    https://twitter.com/_HelenDale/status/1310996817736282113

  38. Dr. Fronkensteen

    Speaking of commutes, time to go to work. I will be lurking in this insane island of sanity. Thank you all.

  39. Idle Hands

    Anybody who listens or doesn’t listen to free man beyond the wall should listen to this last podcast. It’s a huge black pill but it was fascinating.

    • Tundra

      Thanks, but the last several have been so full of black pills I might off myself!

      Vin Armani?

      • Idle Hands

        yes.

  40. Rebel Scum

    Maybe just stick to teaching the course material.

    This was my daughters humanities teacher (Professor Janet Gulla) on the second day of class at Suffolk community college!!!! This is complete bullshit and not what we are paying to send our kids to school for !!!

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      I wish these people would be more specific when saying Trump is taking away our rights. It’s just a catechism at this point.

    • CPRM

      ‘…our rights he’s taken away.’

      Hell yeah, like bumpstocks! Right?!

  41. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Not saying Biden was wearing a wire last night but there were a couple of unusual things hanging off of him:

    https://youtu.be/WypO3MUSh9Y

    It seems like they would’ve done a sweep to avoid the appearance of impropriety but I guess that would be expecting too much.

    • Sean

      Finally, someone brought it up!

      Was it a wire or VR contacts?

      I want it to be VR contacts, cuz that would be awesome.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I wouldn’t put much past them. The canceling of the agreement to have both candidates inspected does seem fishy but it’s hard to believe they’d be that blatant.

  42. PieInTheSky

    The cat who hitched a lift on a worldwide tour

  43. Rebel Scum

    How about “no”.

    Trump is trusting that with Barrett, decisions are sure to land in his favor. Thus, Trump’s declaration: “I think it’s very important that we have nine justices.”

    However, it’s not a given that a full court will be in place to decide election-related cases affecting the fates of Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden. Under the court’s recusal policy, a strong case can be made that Thomas should take no part in deciding cases that involve Biden.

    Decisions on recusal from Supreme Court justices are not subject to review because they sit on the nation’s court of last resort. The Judicial Conference’s Code of Conduct applies only to lower federal courts. Roberts, however, insists that all justices consult the code for their ethical obligations.

    The code states: “A judge shall disqualify himself or herself in a proceeding in which the judge’s impartiality might reasonably be questioned.” That is the case, the code states, when “the judge has a personal bias or prejudice concerning a party” in the proceedings.

    This is where a demand for Thomas’s recusal comes in.

    By any measure, Thomas’s confirmation hearing was one of the most acrimonious and polarizing congressional events of the 20th century. Thomas wrote in his memoir “My Grandfather’s Son” that he looks back at the process in “horror and disgust.” Thomas described the hearing in which he responded to Anita Hill’s sexual harassment accusations as “a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas, and it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S. Senate rather than hung from a tree.”

    The chairman of that committee was Biden, whom Thomas characterizes in his book as a liar.

    • leon

      I think that’s called Karma, and i don’t see why Biden should be protected from it.

    • CPRM

      “And also, Gorsuch and Kavinaugh should recuse themselves, because were appointed by Trump and we pissed off Kavinaugh. Also, also, RBG should be allowed to vote, just like she’ll be doing on Nov 3.”

  44. Raven Nation

    Story from English cricket – but not about cricket per se. Essex won the County Championship last week and part of the celebration was the traditional dousing each other in beer.

    But wait, one of the player was Muslim and got splashed with beer! The Essex captain posted on social media: “As a group, we have come together and discussed the event, and on reflection, we are disappointed we let this happen.”

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/54337950

    • PieInTheSky

      I have a feeling that guy has a few when no one is looking… but in public it is problematic

      • Pope Jimbo

        We had a client years ago who was a Somali muslim dude. When he came into town, he’d tell his local relatives (of course he had local relatives, they all are related somehow) he was too busy to meet them. Then we’d go out on the town. He wouldn’t eat any bacon or pork during dinner, but had no reservations at all about drinking at the strip club while immoral naked white women gave him lap dances.

        So it seems that there is a lot of wiggle room (like Catholicism) on what is an actual rule and what is just a suggestion.

      • UnCivilServant

        At dinner, the community might see him.

        In the club, the only people who’ll see him are guilty of the same sins in the same moment.

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      I’m not sure what this problem is. I would classify “not splashing a Muslim with beer” to be one of those things I have to do not consider myself “not an asshole”. But maybe I’m just weird.

      • Raven Nation

        I don’t think he was deliberately targeted. He was part of the group celebrating the win and this is how the celebration goes.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Yeah, so what? I guess I value respect for religious convictions more than I value the freedom to not consider the feelings of my teammates.

        But like I said, I’m probably just weird.

      • Raven Nation

        Well, I think we’re all pretty weird here. And I’m not sure I disagree with you. The quote I posted was more the part I was interested in: I wasn’t sure why it required a group discussion. More along the lines of what you say: “dude, sorry, we screwed up. It won’t happen again.”

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        That seems like very basic team leadership to me. Bring the team together, come to a mutual decision, speak with one voice.

      • Pope Jimbo

        If the guy has deep convictions that make him freak out over getting splashed with beer, he should have stayed off the balcony.

        Religious convictions are like the heckler’s veto. Fine, you do you, but if the rest of us want to pour beer on each other that is OK.

        And there is probably some middle ground too. Maybe ask your team mates not to spray you with beer as it is happening. If they purposely spray you after that, then they are assholes. If you get some collateral beer on you and you get the vapors, then you are the asshole.

        Uffda. Why am I caring about this?

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        The proscription covers the consumption of alcohol. I don’t think just getting it on you counts and he’s being unreasonably sensitive.

    • Tejicano

      A guy I know who used to do Civil Affairs type missions up in the hills around Afghanistan told me he always carried one canteen filled with vodka or some other booze. Whenever they would be meeting with a local village headman, at some point while they would be drinking tea he would offer to add something to everybody’s tea. From his experience it was always a welcome move and he never got complaints about it.

      • Tejicano

        (hit reply too quick)

        …and it always lead to more productive discussions and better relations. On return visits the tea seemed to come out much sooner than before – and nobody took a sip until he had a chance to ‘fortify’ everybody’s cup..

    • Chipwooder

      So it’s not just that they can’t drink it, they can’t even have it touch their skin? Do they not use denatured alcohol as a disinfectant when getting blood drawn??

  45. UnCivilServant

    I was stuck in a no-win situation with regards to the illegal mask mandate. Had to drop off the car for the scheduled maintenance to keep my warranty. Dealer said that masks were required inside.

    I did take careful note of the vebiage on their sign. It was very pointed about this being a government mandate and not their doing, but they would get fined for noncompliance. The people there were also not on-board with the concept and voiced such disagreement.

    Plus I not only can’t breathe with a mask on (had to pull it away from my face to reoxygenate) but I can’t see either, since it fogged up my glasses quite readily. Cuomo deserves all the suffering that can be heaped upon his dictatorial ass.

    • PieInTheSky

      I never had particular problem breathing with masks although my glasses do on occasion fog up

      • leon

        I figured you had to learn how to fight with a mask on if you were going to become a ninja.

      • UnCivilServant

        Ninja don’t use Karate.

        It’s too loud.

  46. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Can you act like a bastard towards an eventual member of the SC and expect them to recuse him/herself anytime a case involving you or a party sympathetic to you comes up? No is right.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Ugh, misthread reply to Rebel Scum.

  47. straffinrun

    I’m gonna need you all to condemn White Nationalists.

    • PieInTheSky

      Bunch of assholes the lot of em.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      As soon as you find some for me.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Here’s one, too bad he’s ridin’ with Biden.

        https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer

        No kidding, read a few tweets, he really is.

      • AlexinCT

        What is the difference between a democrat and a white nationalist? They seem to all champion the same shit.

        I saw that video where the two agreed with each other all the time.

  48. A Leap at the Wheel

    So, interesting thought experiment for myself last night. I didn’t vote for Trump the first time, I don’t think he’s particularly better or worse than any recent presidential candidate, etc. I was considering voting for him for the next term on nothing more than “But Goresuch.”

    But if ACB gets installed, I’m not sure I give a shit if Biden or Trump gets elected this fall. If she gets installed, I don’t see any of the other republican-nominated judges retiring during a Biden presidency, I see some of the old fucks on the dem-nominated side getting replaced by a dem-nominated justice. So I don’t see a real change on the SC in the next presidency, short of surprise death.

    The SC is far-and-away my most important issue, because its about the only thing that sets the two parties apart that I care about. Most of their differences is “I have a shitty play / I have the same shitty plan only harder!!” which isn’t going to cause me to vote for the less shitty bundle of plans.

    Between the SC, and filling up the rest of the lower courts, Trump may just have competenced him self out of a job, as far as I’m concerned.

    • PieInTheSky

      Lucky for the US supreme court judge assassination is not a thing.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Or old age.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Thomas is too angry to die, and every not-Alito judge is young and in good health.

      • l0b0t

        IIRC, the Wise Latina is a morbidly obese diabetic.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        But not Republican-nominated, so not part of the set I was talking about.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Justice Scalia could not be reached for comment.

        (I don’t think he was assasinated, but it a going conspiracy theory)

    • leon

      Between the SC, and filling up the rest of the lower courts, Trump may just have competenced him self out of a job, as far as I’m concerned.

      Probably the strongest argument for calling him the “best president” of our lifetime. Anyone who is able to accomplish everything voters could have resonably expected from him in a singe term… Well that’s a feat.

      I’m not ecstatic about ACB, but i don’t know anyone better who could have replaced RBG, so i’ll take it i guess.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        1) What don’t you like about ACB? You and I often see things similarly, and everything I see about ACB is pretty damn good.

        2) I would have preferred Don Willet (for his jurisprudence) or Ted Cruz (for the lulz).

        3) I was a live during Regan’s administration, who advanced many ideas I like and some I didn’t. And I was alive during the Clinton administration, who did a lot of things I wasn’t fond of and a few things I did but was at least competent and had a policy of unregulated market competition on data infrastructure (software, not hardware, crypto wars aside) that I think is on par with ending the cold war in terms of value to future generations. So I don’t know. (and yes, I’ll take a competent ideologically opposed president like Clinton over an incompetent ideologically opposed president like Obama any day of the week)

      • leon

        1) What don’t you like about ACB? You and I often see things similarly, and everything I see about ACB is pretty damn good.

        1). Honestly, i have a lot of ignorance about her. She seems to be good, but she also has a lot of support from the GOP, and i mean the same people who supported Roberts and such. Damned by the praise of others and all. I’ll admit i was happier about her getting the nod than anyone i thought he would go with. (I thought he would try to play it safe and nominate someone more centrist).

        2). If we’re bringing in safe sitting senators, i would have been OK with Mike Lee being nominated. I’ll have to look at Don Willet, but i trust your estimation of him. I can see why politically it was less than feasible to replace a woman with a Man on the court.

        3). I was mostly being tounge in cheek. I get the feeling that lots of presidents purposfully don’t accomplish all their goals in their first term, out of fear of working themselves out of a job.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Oh, I see the disconnect here. I want fidelity to the originally understood constitution and the rule of law.

        You seem to be bothered that she doesn’t rubber stamp anything from “her team”.

        That kind of shit is what brought us every encroachment on personal liberty since the dawn of the progressive era, and the fact that all Team Blue judges do it isn’t any reason to put up another Alito so that Team Red can do it too.

      • kbolino

        Constitution of the United States, Amendment I:

        Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

        Constitution of the State of Ohio, Article I, Section 3:

        The people have the right to assemble together, in a peaceable manner, to consult for their common good; to instruct their representatives; and to petition the general assembly for the redress of grievances.

        Whether you believe Amendment XIV to the U.S. Constitution incorporates the Bill of Rights against the states or not, the State of Ohio also respects the right to peaceably assembly. If the governor of that state does not respect the constitution, it is the job of the judges, regardless of their own party, the governor’s party, or the litigant’s party, to uphold the constitution over the governor’s prerogatives.

      • kbolino

        Illinois, Ohio, details, details…

      • kbolino

        The Illinois Constitution has a similar provision in Article I, Section 5:

        The people have the right to assemble in a peaceable manner, to consult for the common good, to make known their opinions to their representatives and to apply for redress of grievances.

    • Homple

      Judges and bureaucrats are the real government here. Congress has delegated its authority to the federal apparatchiks and judges prevent the President from doing anything the real rulers don’t approve of. See the last four years for examples.

    • Idle Hands

      better whore of yore.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Is SF running that account?

        This seems like something he’d do

        Agnes Blannbekin (1244-1315) was an Austrian nun & mystic who had erotic visions. In one, she felt the foreskin of Jesus in her mouth. “And behold, soon she felt with the greatest sweetness on her tongue a little piece of skin alike the skin in an egg, which she swallowed.”

        *also, you guys might want to add a NSFW tag to your links to those other pics as a courtesy to the corporate stooges

      • PieInTheSky

        I usually do forgot this time

      • Idle Hands

        I was just thinking about that apologies.

      • Pope Jimbo

        No worries. I like the NSFW tag so I can quickly find the links I really want to go look at. If the good stuff isn’t tagged, I have to slog through all the links even the links from TPTB at the top of the post

      • AlexinCT

        You not working from home? Or do you need to have the tag to make sure the family doesn’t see you checking out whores of your?

        /just kidding…

      • Pope Jimbo

        See above Alex. My objection was mostly related to efficiency.

        checking out whores

        Man libraries have gotten fancy. I need to go renew my library card.

      • Tejicano

        I have often thought about opening up a chapter of the Veterans of Foreign Whores. I personally know a lot of potential members but I’m not sure how many I could get to sign up and pay dues. (…dues to the chapter. Most of them have paid their dues and been paying them since the 1970’s)

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Now that’s an ass you could rest your stein of mead on.

  49. banginglc1

    I don’t know why I wasn’t invited to the debate last night.

    Veto Party – Banginglc1 2020

    “Making policy sounds labor intensive, I’ll take a nap instead.”

    • leon

      Where do i sign up to be a campaign worker?

      • banginglc1

        campaign? work? I don’t think we believe in those things.

  50. UnCivilServant

    Why do I keep thinking it’s friday?

    • Mojeaux

      I kept thinking Monday was Thursday, and yesterday was Friday, so we’re good company. I am forcibly MAKING today feel like Wednesday by reminding myself of it every 10 minutes.

      • UnCivilServant

        SugarFree should be by to send a reminder later

      • Mojeaux

        Last night, I made the mistake of reading my work email before I went to bed. My client had to go and mansplain css and html to me, and the worst part of it is, he keeps thinking I did X to make it do Y, when in fact I did X to make it do A. I have explained this to him several times in different ways and he still can’t make the jump.

        This, from a “programmer” since mainframes and a “hacker” who knows ALL about CSS and HTML.

        No, dude, you don’t. You really really don’t. That’s why you hired me to make your ebook. Because you couldn’t.

        Fortunately, I kept myself from replying snarkily, but I slept on that all night and woke up pissed. I was a bit more diplomatic this morning than I would have been last night.

      • UnCivilServant

        We technical people are the worst clients on technical issues.

      • PieInTheSky

        mansplain ? really?

      • Mojeaux

        Yes indeed. Mansplain. It was long, condescending, overbearing, arrogant, and (unrelated) totally, completely, utterly WRONG.

      • leon

        I don’t think you understand Mojeaux. Mansplaining is when a man treats you like an imbecile and that you don’t know what you are doing. It’s like this. If i were to explain to you how to write books, even though you clearly already know how to write.

        Does that make sense?

      • Mojeaux

        What you did there, it was noticed.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        Mo, I’m going to stop you right there and let you know that your most recent post was incomprehensible because it used improper English.

        See, English is a language of hard and fast rules, and you can’t break any of them if you want to be persuasive. You used something called *puffs out chest* a prepositional phrase to function as an an adjective, which can never, ever be used to start a sentence.

        *Dusts off hands and walks away*

      • Mojeaux

        ?

        You two have succeeded in making me smile.

    • Gender Traitor

      Hope springs eternal.

      • UnCivilServant

        Sounds like a tourist trap.

      • UnCivilServant

        3505 George St., Highland, IL

        🙁 Illinois?

      • Gender Traitor

        Have driven past their highway signs many times on the way to St. L. (Ashamed to admit we’ve never stopped there.)

      • UnCivilServant

        It seems a bit out of the way.

      • Gender Traitor

        Blue Springs > Yellow Springs (hippie capital of SW OH.)

      • UnCivilServant

        But I’d still have to make a multi day trip to visit.

  51. Rebel Scum

    Heels up Harris weighs in.

    “His answer on court packing, adding more justices to the Court, just sounds like a straight up dodge. Why won’t he talk about what he wants to do, what he thinks should happen?” CBSN’s John Dickerson asked.

    “I think he’s very clear, John, that he is focused – as we all should be – on the next 35 days. And he’s focused on, one, the process by which we’re even having the conversation about the United States Supreme Court,” she explained. …

    “And now we see the president and the senate majority leader are pushing through a nominee while Americans are voting. We’re not even talking about a debate has occurred in the past election year,” the vice presidential nominee said. “We’re talking about literally doing an election, almost a million people have voted and they’re trying to ram this nominee through, clearly for political purposes.”

    Instead of explaining where the Biden-Harris campaign stood on packing the Supreme Court, Harris said she agreed with Biden’s approach of focusing on the “conversation” surrounding the topic.

    • leon

      This means they will pack the court, and don’t want to piss off regular peoples sensibliites and inflame Trumps base.

      Or it means they won’t and don’t want to piss off their own base.

      One thing is for sure, it means they don’t give a shit one way or another.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Heels up Harris, Horizontal Harris, Copmala- She’s accumulating some good nicknames already.

    • Rhywun

      Maybe vote on Election Day instead of weeks in advance.

      Just a thought.

  52. Certified Public Asshat

    Hmm, several Facebook acquaintances trotting out the “Just please God vote. Vote.” line this morning.

    What again does giving these two more votes accomplish?

    • leon

      God is not a citizen of the United States. Now in some jurisdictions that wouldn’t prevent him from voting, but he’s not one to break the law.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Well, they believe God is dead, so they’ll be casting a Democrat ballot for Him

    • Chipwooder

      Yeah, if there was a winner last night, it was None of the Above.

    • CPRM

      It doesn’t say vote for those two. #Kanye2020! If you’re gonna vote for crazy, full steam ahead!

    • Idle Hands

      I hate that shit so fucking much. And funny enough it’s mostly the left that has that perspective the fact that they actively court ignorant and non-interested voters or think they would vote for their candidate should tell you everything about their worldview.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Maybe I spend too much time around here, but the non-voters I know if forced to vote would lean right anyway.

  53. PieInTheSky

    Who is excited for the NBA finals? Lakers in 5? Heat in 6?

    • Chipwooder

      Yet another reason to hate the NBA – Same goddamn teams, over and over and over again.

      • PieInTheSky

        What do you mean? Neither of these teams made the finals in the last 5 years. Lakers last 10 years ago

      • Chipwooder

        Yeah, and before that the Lakers played in the finals 7 times in 11 seasons and the Heat played in four straight.

        The Warriors and the Cavaliers played each other in the finals four straight years. The NBA is a dynasty league, and my team is a never a dynasty, so the hell with it.

    • Ted S.

      Nobody?

    • Pope Jimbo

      I’m hoping the arena blows up.

      Can’t stand the idea of LeBron or Jimmy Butler getting a title.

      I won’t watch a minute of it though because the matchup doesn’t excite me at all. Not one player I like is playing.

      • PieInTheSky

        dion waiters is guaranteed a ring

    • Rhywun

      About as excited as I was for the Stanley Cup finals.

      • grrizzly

        At least with the NHL I wanted Tampa to lose.

      • Rhywun

        True.

    • Agent Cooper

      Fuck the NBA. It sucks.

  54. Rebel Scum

    Cocaine Mitch.

    “As I predicted last week, the far left is rushing to make this nomination about anything but Judge Barrett’s qualifications. The instant she was announced, they started with the same unhinged attacks they have recycled for every Supreme Court nomination by every Republican president since the 1970s,” McConnell said. “Remember, the far left said Justice Stevens opposed ‘women’s rights.’ That Justice Kennedy would be ‘a disaster for women.’ That Justice Souter would put the ‘health and lives’ of Americans at risk.”

    “Well, Saturday went like clockwork. The political left took one look at Judge Barrett’s qualifications, gave up on debating the merits, and headed right for the old scare tactics. Our colleague the Democratic Leader informed Americans that this 48-year-old working mother was going to ‘turn back the clock on women’s rights.’ The junior Senator for California said the nominee would ‘harm millions of Americans.’ The junior Senator for Connecticut said, quote, ‘Amy Coney Barrett would create a humanitarian catastrophe.’ Here we go again,” he continued. “One of the pre-selected scare tactics is that Judge Barrett is out to steal Americans’ healthcare coverage. That’s the claim: This mother of seven, including multiple children who were born or adopted facing pre-existing medical challenges, is just itching to block families like hers from accessing medical care. What a joke.”

  55. "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

    President Biden starts at least three illegal wars. One in Ukraine, escalation in Syria, and another invasion of Iraq (people aren’t paying attention to how precarious things are becoming there).

    Is that too conservative? Or do you think more than three?

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      You left out siding with Turkey and Azerbaijan against Russia and Armenia.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Oh, and emboldening the Chinese regarding Taiwan which could lead to another war eventually.

      • leon

        You left out siding with Turkey and Azerbaijan against Russia and Armenia.

        So in that case we are OK to side with Turkey? No Kurds in Armenia?

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        That one I’m not as sure about, only because “muh..NATO” and “muh..allies”. Europe isn’t as down with a proxy war against Turkey as it is a proxy war with Russia (which is theoretically more dangerous, but realistically less likely to lead to regional instability). I don’t know, though, you may be right.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        A proxy war with Russia on Russia’s borders would lead to Russian annexation of Ukraine and possibly other fun if they tried to improve their position by snatching up the Baltics and calling our (maybe it is, maybe it isn’t) bluff. The Dems are itching for war with the Russians and I think they’d actively try to get involved if the Armenia war presents an opportunity to do so. They have a dangerous obsession.

      • leon

        From reading Military publications, the DoD is expecting war with Russia. All they ever talk about is Russian capabilities. (an exaggeration, but their is an out-sized focus on Russia, when China seems to be more of a military threat).

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        Yeah, you are probably right. The crazy thing is how a proxy war against Russia in Ukraine (which has already begun) is expected to not lead to wider regional stability, because the assumption is that the Russians would not take it that far. But, from the Russian perspective, they would have no choice other than to escalate the conflict. It always amazes me how ignorant people are about how much the US has backed the Russians into a corner. It’s the West that won’t escalate- the Russians are crazy fatalists.

    • CPRM

      Who does China want us to invade? Taiwan? Yeah, let’s add Taiwan.

    • PieInTheSky

      Maybe Armenia 🙂 Iran . Someplace in Africa must need a good war

      • leon

        You don’t go to war in Africa, you just go to Africa.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        The Left has a strange infatuation with Iran, so I doubt that Biden will pursue a conflict there. We’re already in Africa. Do you even “bring back our girls”, brah? I always forget about the illegal war in Africa against Boko Haram. That was the dumbest one by far. It was so insanely stupid that Gary Johnson supported it and even called for us to raise an army against Kony in a 2012 issue of the Weekly Standard.

      • Chipwooder

        That whole “Kony 2012” thing should have been a giant flashing warning light indicating just how fucking stupid and self-righteous the coming generation was. All those high school kids who bought into that are today’s young adult idiots who ate up socialism and CRT in college and asked for seconds.

  56. Certified Public Asshat

    Hey Clay, I won't try to educate you on ratings. We have the audience our advertisers want. But I do want to know what the AQH is for your radio show . If ratings are so important to you, let us know your actual ratings and why Fox Sports Radio doesn't publish them for the public https://t.co/2KqwGy712w— Mark Cuban (@mcuban) September 26, 2020

    The Cuban downfall continues. “I know our ratings suck, but we’re still higher than you!”

    • Pope Jimbo

      We have the audience our advertisers want

      That sweet, sweet CCP market.

      Bird/Magic saved the NBA and made it interesting in the ’80s.
      Jordan monetized the NBA in the ’90s
      Now LeBron is going to destroy it with his Woke campaigns.

      LeBron should be their superstar who is the face of the league. But almost no one likes him. Everyone concedes he’s one of the best players ever, but no one likes him and don’t respect him. People disliked Kobe, but they at least respected him.

      I’m eagerly waiting for the implosion of the NBA when the TV contracts shrink because no one is watching. If Trump wins and keeps the pressure on China that market could dry up for the NBA and the implosion will happen even sooner.

      • Nephilium

        People from the Akron area still like LeBron.

      • Agent Cooper

        I want to like Lebron because he does a lot of good things, too but he is making it superhard.

    • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

      If there is a God, it’s exceptionally hard to make the case that someone like Mark Cuban is not certain for hell. I’m not an expert on religion, but I tend to think that the Judeo-Christian God probably doesn’t look to fondly on millionaires who further enrich themselves by ignoring genocide being committed in the same city where they practice.

      Cuban has got to realize he’s not a good human being, right? No one can be this utterly clueless.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Sure he realizes he’s not a good human being, he just doesn’t care.

      • "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

        I wish him only the worst in life.

  57. mrfamous

    Does anybody have an update on all the mass graves that had to be dug in South Dakota after the massive outbreak caused by Sturgis?

    • PieInTheSky

      bears ate the bodies

    • Plinker762

      No one survived to bury the dead.

    • Pope Jimbo

      The pyramid of skulls they built from the victims now comes up almost to Washington’s nose at Mt. Rushmore.

      The flesh of the victims was ground up and used as fertilizer for the SoDak corn fields. The other bones were used to create mosaics at the Corn Palace in Mitchell.

    • Sensei

      I believe the close to the railroad depot that Trump is using to round up all the undesirables to transport to the various camps.

    • limey

      I think any and all covid outbreaks around the lower 48 can be traced back to some guy who was at sturgis and also happened to have passed within 15 miles of the hot spot at some point within the last 2 years, before or after attending said rally, no?

      • Pope Jimbo

        Similar to the the story about the upcoming visit by Trump to Dulute, Minnesoda

        Minnesota’s emergency measures still cap gatherings at 250 people, even when outdoors, with masks required in situations where physical distancing cannot be properly maintained. Minnesota Department of Health officials say the state is currently experiencing “uncontrolled spread” of the virus, strongly discouraging large social events that are frequently tied to outbreaks.

        Locally, nearly half of all confirmed cases of COVID-19 in St. Louis County since the start of the pandemic have been in September alone, with a monthly total of more than 800 as of Tuesday. Meanwhile, the 10-county region of Northeastern Minnesota and Northwestern Wisconsin reported a record-high 100 new diagnoses in a single day Monday.

        “One event can affect so many people,” Kris Ehresmann, Minnesota’s infectious disease director, said during a media briefing this week. “Being outdoors is not a substitute for safe practices. It is essential that people still keep a distance and wear a mask.”

        St. Louis County stats:

        1725 cases
        42 deaths

      • invisible finger

        Just a few more months and journalists might figure out that coronavirus is endemic and seasonal like always. They still will struggle with the fact that seasons in the Dakotas have more temperature variance than cities next to oceans.

  58. Ozymandias

    I like this article. It’s a bit of a reminder for all of us that reality rarely acknowledges our models as neatly as we would like to think it does. Humility should be our natural state, not the opposite.

    https://www.aier.org/article/the-swedish-bumblebee/

    “Yet, the bumblebee is flying. Clearly, these annoying little insects defy gravity every single day, suggesting – commonsensically – that there wasn’t much point in supposing that they couldn’t. In any case, the bumblebees of the world didn’t care much for the musings of mice and men; they kept buzzing around, blissfully ignorant of their apparently supernatural powers.

    In the world’s eyes, Sweden holds a similar position. Its economy always did much better than we’d except at a first-pass analysis. With the corona pandemic, we now have another episode of the Swedish Bumblebee story.”

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      I’m always humble. Its one of my many noteworthy traits that sets me apart from all those slack-jawed morons I’m forced to put up with.

      • Pope Jimbo

        One of my favorite profs in college would write “ARROGANT” on the chalk board just before handing out the teacher evaluations. He’d tell us that it really annoyed him to see that word misspelled on the evaluations.

      • A Leap at the Wheel

        I’m going to bet a moderate amount of money that this was a math, science, or engineering professor. Possibly O Chem, Diff EQ, or another weed-out class.

        Am I right?

      • Pope Jimbo

        EE prof. From Nigeria.

        If you got 30 out of a 100 on his tests you were going to get an A.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        After going through the EE ringer, getting my share of 25/100 B+ scores, people in law school were aghast when I could walk out of one of those exams with a smile on my face.

        “That was so hard! The hardest exam I’ve ever taken!”

        “Really? I at least had enough time to write some answer for each question. That’s a major improvement over undergrad.”

      • Sensei

        I never completely understood this. I don’t have an issue with it, but it seemed to me to be a bit of optics.

        Sure you can normalize the test, but wouldn’t it make more sense to have the test constructed to give you whatever distribution you wanted initially.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        wouldn’t it make more sense to have the test constructed to give you whatever distribution you wanted initially

        Not without making them 6 hour exams. Many of those exams were 2 hours and 2 or 3 questions. They often broke them down into subparts to make it easier to give partial credit, but most people were solving these problems at a rate of 1 per hour or less.

      • kinnath

        I had a Calc professor that tried to set the “C” score to 50% right on the test.

        He said this provided equal opportunities to succeed or fail.

      • Tundra

        My little girl took her first physics test of the semester last night. The same one my son failed two years ago in spectacular fashion.

        No feedback yet…

        I’m actually kind of glad they do this. Both of my kids went through four years of HS with unweighted 4.0s.

        Failure can be an excellent development tool.

      • AlexinCT

        ^^^THIS^^^

        Most important life lessons I learned came from my failures…

      • Tejicano

        You learn much more from failure than from success – if you pay attention.

      • Tejicano

        I love hearing this. Good on you for pushing your kids through the education system so well.

      • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

        I’m always humble. It’s [FTFY] one of my many noteworthy traits that sets me apart from all those slack-jawed morons I’m forced to put up with.

        Huh. Small world.

      • Surly Knott

        Humble? Why I have more humility in my pinky than you do in your entire existence! Of course I’m humble!
        /hat tip Cerebus the Aardvark

      • UnCivilServant

        Everyone’s full of ‘umbles. Your body stops working when you take the guts out.

      • Surly Knott

        I try to be humble and self-effacing, but I’m not very good at it.

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        My humility is perhaps my greatest trait other than my intelligence and good looks.

    • limey

      Thanks, Ozy. AIER is a place I rarely check so I’m glad you shared that.

      “Right-wing thinktank claims bumblebees magically unaffected by gravity to push Swedish covid response gaslighting”

  59. invisible finger

    I’ve never watched a debate and never will.

    I just have one question: which candidate was oranger? And I mean actual oranger, not oranger-due-to-hair-color-contrast.

    • Rebel Scum

      Sleepy Joe looked like he had one foot in the grave.

  60. AlexinCT
  61. "Tulsi Gabbard Apologist"

    I think Biden is going to win the election. But the fact that pollsters continue to go on Twitter reassuring Biden supporters (basically just the press) that he’s going to win and Trump is finished is the only thing that makes me think I may be wrong.

    • A Leap at the Wheel

      Plus, all the win probability models are creeping into the “this shit won’t fly in a sports-sabermetric chat room unless you are talking about week 1 of college football” range.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Trump wins electoral college and loses the popular vote and the Dems freak out yet again. It won’t be a blowout but Shy Tory syndrome is a thing.

      • R C Dean

        I’m still 60/40 Trump, although the recent stories about vote fraud are making me think that should be more 55/45.

        This election is eminently stealable, I believe. All the machinery is being put in place – judges are allowing ballot harvesting, ballots received after election day, etc. in states where the law doesn’t allow it. Flip probably 3 swing states with a couple hundred thousand fake ballots, and Biden Harris is your President.

        I wonder who she will pick for VP? Michelle Obama?

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        The left has been setting the framework for illegitimizing any skepticism of the result.

        They’re playing with fire. When the ballot box is widely distrusted, people find other ways to keep the enemy from imposing their will. We may well see some of the more fringe right groups pick up the rioting mantle.

    • Chipwooder

      I have no idea who will win, but I think the notion that Biden has a big lead is silly.

      1)If you look at the samples for the polls giving Biden big leads, almost all of them have samples that are laughably slanted towards the Dems
      2)His campaign’s actions don’t remotely give the impression of a confident bunch
      3)The measures of voter enthusiasm are heavily on Trump’s side
      4)New GOP registrations have been dwarfing new Dem registrations in key states
      5)Biden’s pretty much decided not to do any on-the-ground canvassing at all while Trump’s campaign has been hitting it hard

      I think it’s pretty much up for grabs.

      • R C Dean

        Yup. The margin of fraud has gotten a lot bigger.

      • Chipwooder

        I forgot to add that there’s a lot of reason to believe that Trump’s support among minorities is increasing. If that pans out, it’s a big, big problem for Biden.

      • DEG

        5)Biden’s pretty much decided not to do any on-the-ground canvassing at all while Trump’s campaign has been hitting it hard

        On this note, it’s not just Biden’s team.

        I’m helping a candidate for NH State House with her campaign. She’s a Republican, Reopen NH endorsed, and has libertarian leanings. I help with little stuff here and there when I have time.

        Last night I was chatting with her. She said that the NH Democrat party prohibited anyone in the party from door-to-door canvassing due to the Lil Rona Panic. So far, all NH Democrat candidates are complying with the ban. They’re relying on mailings and Zoom meetings.

        NH Republican candidates, on the other hand, are going door-to-door.

        NH independent voters, whom I think are the majority of registrations, like meeting candidates. I think the NH Republicans, by behaving normally and meeting people, will have big wins among independents in NH.

    • kinnath

      I don’t think Biden wins without massive fraud.

      The Dems have spent the last 12 years fucking over big chunks of its base.

      Trump should cruise to an easy re-election.

      But, I think fraud will be widespread, so the election is up for grabs.

      • RAHeinlein

        Kinnath: WTF with these non-stop Ernst attack-ads – Greenfield obviously has massive outside funding. I love all the “I’m a Republican and voting for Greenfield” crap – I live in one of the leftier areas of Ames and houses that have a yard full of Dem candidate signs every election cycle have “Republicans for Biden” signs.

      • kinnath

        Generally, I do everything I can to avoid commercials. So I don’t track them very well. In the rare occasions that I get exposed, I seem to see back to back attack ads either against Ernst followed by against Greenfield or the other way around. The ad buys are clearly being coordinated by both sides.

        I pay more attention to the yard signs in rural areas and small towns.

        I see lots of signs for our House rep Abby Finkenauer. The weird thing is that houses with Finkenauer signs will have democrat signs for local offices, but I almost never see as sign for Greenfield or Biden at the same place.

        Enthusiasm for Greenfield and Biden seems to be non-existent.

      • whiz

        There are non-stop attack ads from both sides, and not from the candidates themselves, but from PACs of various sorts. I like how the Dem-associated ads are complaining that the attacks on Greenfield by Ernst are lies, but those ads are not from Ernst’s campaign. The candidate campaigns are running positive ads for their candidate and leaving the attacks for third parties.

        I can’t imagine how there will be more political ads in the next five weeks, but I’m sure there will be.

  62. Ed Wuncler

    “The problem with libertarianism is you’re giving even more power to corporate chucklefuck ghouls who are at least as bad. Libertarians never lead with breaking up government-made corporations or Nurembergs for the worst corporatist attrocities, it’s just GOP shit + drugs

    Tearing down the government w/o any thought to tearing down the economic systems of power and exploitation they’ve established is a lot like the post-Grant era of Reconstruction. The people who did the worst shit still got all the spoils and were allowed to recreate the system.”

    A screed from a good friend about why Libertarians are ineffective after I mentioned that last night’s debate confirmed why we should take as much power away from politicians as can. I wanted to refute him but it’s quarter close for this accountant.

    • robc

      If there is no government power to buy, corporations wont be about to buy government power.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        This

        Expecting an instant solution is a ridiculous requirement. All you can do is correct the framework and wait for results over time.

    • kbolino

      The argument rests on a fallacy, that fallacy being that corporate and government power are mutually exclusive. They are not. They are, if anything, heavily overlapping. Reducing the power of government is also reducing the power of business and non-business corporations expressed through government. Microsoft has more money and power because every dingleberry bureaucrat has to have a license for Windows and Office, because the government has to have “reliable and trusted industry partners” at government scale, because the trade policy and law of the United States gives advantages to their corporate model, and so on.

      The idea that if the government reduces its regulatory and tax burden, Facebook or Walmart or Conagra will take over in its place is absurd. These companies live in the nexus of government-economic power. If anything, to break the power of “corporate chucklefuck ghouls” you’d do better to adopt a libertarian economic ethos. The corporate class has more in common with the governing class than either have with the common man (for good or ill).

      • Ed Wuncler

        One of the oddities of the Left is that they will piss and moan to the high heavens about how the government is a tool of oppression or how Donald Trump is corrupt but yet their political framework increases the power of the oppressive government and enables more of the corruption that Donald Trump can get away with.

        That’s why Progressives and Libertarians working together on the War on Drugs or Criminal Justice reform isn’t possible because we operate from a different framework. We see the Drug War and the disparities in our criminal justice systems as a result of too much government power. Progressives sees the injustice as a result of racism but have no issue with the government wielding that power. It’s just that the government wields that power towards the “wrong” people.

      • kbolino

        I think we can work together, but it requires some semblance of balance of power. Libertarians are, despite being the boogeyman of many a progressive and conservative’s personal narrative, electorally powerless. I don’t think you can form a partnership with someone who faces no consequence for ignoring or demonizing you.

        That doesn’t even get into “libertarians” who can’t seem to find a progressive or conservative position they don’t hold more dear than freedom.

  63. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Newsflash: kidney stones suck donkey balls

    *arggghhhhh*

    • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

      They’re not gonna ultrasound ’em? Worked a treat for my older brother.

      • Mojeaux

        I did medical transcription for a couple of urologists. They usually only did that if they were really too big to pass.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Not big enough. I feel so inadequate.

      • AlexinCT

        Do it the old fashioned way and pass it through your urethra!

    • DEG

      Sorry. I hope you pass the stones soon.

      Kidney stones are kinda common on my mom’s side of the family. My mom and I have avoided them. My younger brother has had several. Cousins of mine on my mom’s side and a few other relatives on my mom’s side have had them. They all had pretty shitty experiences, though one cousin was strangely proud of the stones he passed.

    • Fatty Bolger

      I feel ya. I had one, and it caused an infection, too. Worst pain I’ve ever felt in my life. It was so bad that I blacked out for a minute while waiting in the doctor’s office.

  64. Rebel Scum

    Moral preening.

    “I would have walked off the stage at certain times and said, ‘Until you can actually make sure that we abide by the rules, I’m not going to be a part of this charade,’” Scarborough stated. “That said, voters overwhelmingly thought last night that Joe Biden won that debate. Donald Trump set himself on fire in front of 100 million people last night during that debate. He turned off women. He turned off independents. He turned off the same suburban voters that are turned off by Mitch McConnell trying to jam through a Supreme Court justice in the dying days of the Trump administration. So, they have to debate whether they want to go out and let Donald Trump blow up himself again.”

    Co-host Mika Brzezinski replied, “If I were the Biden campaign, I’d say, we’re not doing this to our country.”

    “Well, I think they’re probably deliberating over that this morning,” Scarborough added.

    • commodious spittoon

      They so desperately want it to mean something. Angsty tweener girls.

    • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

      . . . voters overwhelmingly thought last night that Joe Biden won that debate.

      I’m gonna assume that Joey didn’t check any of the polls before uttering this morsel of claptrap.

    • kbolino

      That response is practically canned. It might be right, it might be totally off base, but it’s the same thing he would have said regardless of what actually happened.

  65. commodious spittoon

    Disney to cut 28,000 employees.

    Blood oaths for the mouse god?

    • UnCivilServant

      No, pink slips for mouse gold.

  66. DEG

    Mornin’ Banjos

    The pandemic has battered New York City businesses, with almost 6,000 closures, a jump of about 40% in bankruptcy filings across the region and shuttered storefronts in the business districts of all five boroughs.

    Huh. It seems to me the lockdowns are the cause. Who could possibly have foreseen that?

    • Rhywun

      I have no idea what is actually allowed to be open and what isn’t. And I’m not going to the city gov website to find out because I’d probably fly into a rage. The only business the media talks about is restaurants. At this point I either just try to go where I need to go and see if it’s open or I shop on Amazon.

  67. CPRM

    Been tryin different avenues to download the debate video for the last 3hrs, because that would make parsing this bullshit so much easier, but to no avail. Whycome this shit works for everyone else and not me!?

    • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

      It’s already up on YouTube? Because if it is, a three-hour-long video with audio’s gonna be a Hell of a stream to package up, and it’s gonna be HUUUUUUGE.

      • CPRM

        It was live-streamed, and those streams are all archived. I edit a show every week that is 18GB. A streaming format is laughably small to me.

  68. Apples and Knives

    Joe Biden has demon eyes. He also looks extremely brittle. Trump is bigger than I remember him. At this rate he’ll transition into Orson Wells or Marlon Brando soon. Chris Wallace has a very shaky voice, like someone who’s nervous as hell. Those are my major takeaways from the debate last night. I wouldn’t say Trump won, but it sure doesn’t seem like my progressive friends think Biden did.

    • Atreides

      I agree about looking brittle. There was a minute when I thought Biden was going to cry. Maybe I was just seeing what I wanted to see.

      Either way, Biden quickly snapped out of it, and he finished the debate much more capably than I ever expected.

    • Idle Hands

      give the guy a break it was all like years ago.

  69. Atreides

    While watching last night’s calm and rational colloquy between our esteemed elder statesmen, I had several reasons to contemplate The Iron Laws.

    I set them to an image format to easily share.

    https://ibb.co/6X1dHG9

    What say you, R C Dean? Does this do your efforts justice?

    • leon

      The man has talked like a leaky sieve since he’s been fired. Doesn’t seem hard to catch him in a perjury for claiming to not know.

    • But Enough About My Weird Culinary Fantasies

      Excellent.

    • R C Dean

      Looks good to me.

      “Collected”? I think the only one that I got from a third party (verbatim) was “Me today, you tomorrow” from Solzhenitsyn. But I’m sure none of them are really original concepts with me, so “collected” is probably fine.

      • Atreides

        It’s an honor to hear from you, sir.

        I’ll be happy to call it “R C Dean’s Iron Laws.” I saw that your name isn’t associated with the Iron Law on the Glibs FAQ, so I wasn’t sure how closely you wanted your name to be associated with these wise words.

        Given the nature of the Internet these days, I wanted to check with you first. These days, even unassailable wisdom is not unassailable.

      • Atreides

        If there’s a format you, prefer, let me know.

    • kinnath

      I cannot see anything posted to imgbb.

      I see a title, but no images.