Tuesday Morning Links

by | Nov 3, 2020 | Daily Links | 477 comments

Coming soon (again) (hopefully)!

I’m back (again)! Hopefully more than once this week.  I’ve been so damn busy with work. But that’s a really, really, really good thing. I had my biggest auction ever last week by a pretty good distance. So needless to say, I’ve been swamped. Which is how the Giants felt yesterday, as they lost again. That city’s sports teams are a freaking joke. And that makes me happy.  UCL matches are back today. Looks like Ajax are gonna be a little understaffed. although I believe they’re gonna be forced to play.  Liverpool are still battling through injury woes, but hopefully they’ll get three points today and all but stamp their ticket to the knockout rounds. There’s also a bunch of other matches.

Pioneer.

Big birthdays today are Texas founder Stephen F Austin, confederate general Jubal Early, Scottish baseball pioneer Jim McCormick, football legend Bronko Nagurski, legendary hurler Bob Feller, acting great Charles Bronson, heavyweight champ Larry Holmes, comedic actress Roseanne Barr, outfielder Dwight Evans, actress (who almost ruined “Temple Of Doom”) Kate Capshaw, and acting heavyweight Dolph Lundgren.

That’s a decent list. Now on to…the links!

Coming soon (again) (maybe).

PUSH THE PANIC BUTTON!!!! Yeah, this is what happens when winter gets here. More people are in confined spaces and people get sick.

There’s been another terrorist attack in Europe. This is becoming pretty common, sadly. I wonder what could have possibly motivated this one.

Hey look, another Atlantic hurricane! Wonder when it’ll take a right and head to New Orleans.

Coming soon (again) (certainly).

Here’s the appetizer for tonight’s main course in Portland. But it was mostly peaceful since the majority of people there stood and watched the mayhem.

Just in case you’re still against the death penalty. I hope they string the fucker up and let the crows eat him.

Meanwhile, in fantasyland.

“Government has always led the charge in investing and putting people to work,” said Ald. Gilbert Villegas. “This is no different.”

Actually, they never have, you arrogant asshole.

Hey look, some good news! Suck it, tyrant.

This is taking things a bit too far. But they’re spending money, so I’m all for it. Let their paranoia at least help the economy.

Enjoy this. I will, thoroughly.

Now go out there and have a great day, friends! Because there’s no telling what tomorrow will bring.

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477 Comments

  1. UnCivilServant

    Morning, Sloopy.

    I almost missed the lynx because the pinned post threw me off.

    • Festus' Mustache

      You forgot to wear the special commenting gloves and still beat the front-runner? I call shenanigans on this post! Brochettaward was predicted to win by 32 seconds. The fix is in! Burn This Muthafucka Down!

      • UnCivilServant

        Chetta never wakes up this early.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Not even on The Most Important Day of our Lives?

  2. UnCivilServant

    Hey look, some good news! Suck it, tyrant.

    But it didn’t kill any of the existing orders. 🙁

    • sloopyinca

      It’s a start. Now they can go after the existing orders.

  3. Shpip

    Protests in Portland continued on Monday as BLM demonstrators destroyed a Starbucks and clashed with police, amid fears that further violence could be sparked by the election.

    At what point does somebody (either government or private actors) go full Kent State on these “peaceful protesters?”

    • Festus' Mustache

      Whelp, as I age out of my job I can always sign up for “Assistant Manager” at Starbucks. Can’t be much worse.

      • Hyperion

        Dye your hair blue and pink and try to look very androgynous before applying.

      • Festus' Mustache

        But then I’d look like Robert Smith.

  4. Rebel Scum

    New Feature Announcement!

    I don’t like change.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      RS fears change. /Garth Algar

      “Rise to vote, sir!” And then visit the liquor store.

      • Rebel Scum

        Voted. No line (as opposed to the long line in 2016 and 2018). Idk what that means.

      • Festus' Mustache

        The mail-in ballots are already in and waiting to be counted by the right sort. That’s what that fucking means.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        (Nothing personal: I just wanted to employ the palindrome.)

    • Festus' Mustache

      I don’t like time change but the only good thing that I can feature about it is that Standard Time lets me chat with you people for an extra hour. We voted against it but our dithering Government won’t do a damn thing unless the rest of the Pacific time zone joins and apparently that will take an Act of Congress and not the fun kind.

    • blackjack

      I prefer folding money, too.

  5. Rebel Scum

    Americans head to polls amid harrowing Covid-19 surge that has nearly doubled the US 7-day case average in a month

    People tend to get cold/flu in the cold/flu season? 0_o

    • UnCivilServant

      But you’re supposed to Stay Scared!

      • hayeksplosives

        Chicken Little to the Scaredy Phone!!

        I am scared, but not of the virus. I’m scared that America might have peaked. We no longer train critical thinking, and half of young adults think socialism is gonna be, like, so fair and stuff.

      • Trigger Hippie

        I’m black-pilled so today I feel nothing.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Eh. Most kids thought Socialism was Tres Cool when I was in high school forty years ago. We just wanted to drink and drug and misbehave especially because Reagan was the President. It was about being young, not overthrowing the system. Pretty libertarian, if you ask me.

      • UnCivilServant

        So what you’re saying is we should raise the voting age?

        /Cathy Newman.

      • Festus' Mustache

        yes

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        To 50.

      • Festus' Mustache

        yes

      • Florida Man

        Voting age should be the same age you start paying taxes. Either give teens the vote or stop stealing from them.

      • Trigger Hippie

        You know, I have never considered that. Good point.

  6. The Late P Brooks

    Wow. I fucked that all up.

    • Trigger Hippie

      Don’t steal my schtick, man.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Shut up you little scamp.

  7. hayeksplosives

    Happy Birthday, Dolph! Lundgren and I went to the same grad school (Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm).

    Thanks for the links, sloop. I was just admiring last night that kudu skull I bought from your auction. It looks great; would buy more.

    • sloopyinca

      I could probably put you in touch with that seller. I haven’t sold anything like that in over a year. It’s been all heavy equipment in 2020. About $7m of it sold so far. Which is still shocking to me.

      • hayeksplosives

        7M! Nice economy you got there. It’s be a shame if a democrat administration were to happen to it…

        Hayeksplosives (at) proton

      • Cancelled

        So when we crash the economy permanently and the military starts selling off weapons to buy food are you in position to run those auctions? If so I have a wish list I want to register.

    • Gdragon

      I seem to recall that he was supposed to come to my alma mater too but passed on it to become Grace Jones’s bodyguard/lover. Personally Grace is not exactly my type but the decision was his and it seems to have worked out for him in the end 😉

      • hayeksplosives

        I never could get past Grace’s hairdo and makeup. But as you say, whatever works for them.

        Where did you end up at grad school?

      • Gdragon

        No grad school here, undergrad at MIT.

      • Gdragon

        And yeah, I would agree with you that Grace is probably a bit of an acquired taste that I never acquired ?

      • pan fried wylie

        They go together like peanut butter and chocolate. But replace with Hákarl and Salty Liqorice.

    • blackjack

      I worked on Dolph’s bike in the mid nineties. He came in before the bike got there and told me that it used to go 50 in second gear, but now it would barely make 30. I told him that most Softails wouldn’t even go 30. He said, no, his would do 50 easily. I was shaking my head, until the bike got there and it turned out it was bought in Europe and had a KPH speedo.

      • UnCivilServant

        This sounds familiar, did you tell us this story before?

      • blackjack

        Yes.

      • UnCivilServant

        Oh, so it’s not a symptom of my craziness.

  8. Rebel Scum

    I wonder what could have possibly motivated this one.

    Based on the shouting of the perp I assume it is the lack of a Hawaiian themed morsel station. ///alohasnackbar

    • pan fried wylie

      bite size spam musubi.

      /Hawaiian themed morsel

    • slumbrew

      Boogaloo Bois! I knew it!

  9. Tres Cool

    Nobody has posted THIS as today’s motherfu**in’ THEME MUSIC?

    I haz much disappoint

    • hayeksplosives

      I listened to it on the Mark Steyn midnight edition this morning. He was reporting on the traditional early votes in New Hampshire.

    • Nephilium

      Nope. My theme song today is Fuck Authority. Or Do Not Comply. Whichever, I’m not your supervisor.

      • Tres Cool

        They play their games of power,
        they cut an mark the pack.
        They deal us to the bottom,
        but what do they put back?

        Don’t believe them
        Dont believe them
        dont be bitten twice.

        They take away our freedom,
        in the name of liberty.
        Why cant they all just clear off,
        and let us be?

        You’re suspect.

      • B.P.

        Those old farts still rock.

      • Nephilium

        I stand by DNC (Do Not Comply):

        This serves as our protection
        Long live the constitution

        DNC / DNC / DNC / DNC
        I’LL ALWAYS BE A THREAT
        TO AN UNJUST GOVERNMENT
        WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE A THREAT
        TO THE HIGHEST POWER
        Liberty or death

        I, I live life a simple man
        TRY existing in peace but
        YOU’RE, you’re always gunning for ME
        Now can’t you see that I
        I don’t buy into your GAME
        Unwilling to play
        I’ll STAND, stand against all of the LIES
        Yeah, I’ll defy
        Liberty or death

        Full song… Not all punks hew to the left.

      • WTF

        Excellent

      • Apples and Knives

        SLF!

      • Bones

        Love Naked Raygun’s cover of that. I was at the show where they recorded the live version on Jettison.

      • Gdragon

        Let’s hope that the song tomorrow isn’t Gotta Gettaway

        (yes I know it’s not about leaving the country but it’s Stiff Little Fingers! Any excuse to post them is a good one 😉 )

  10. The Late P Brooks

    And when hospitalizations climb, deaths are likely to follow, doctors have warned.

    Hospitals admit to euthanizing plague patients!

    • hayeksplosives

      It’s just a step on the way to rationed care.

      The left is using covid panic to condition us to avoid the hospitals and clinics except for life threatening conditions.

      That way we will meekly accept what we can get when the full Socialist health system is rolled out nationwide but we can’t afford it.

  11. rhywun

    That city’s sports teams are a freaking joke.

    NYCFC are doing OK. They just beat the Red Bulls 5-2. ??

    • sloopyinca

      Oh yeah, I’d forgotten about MLS now that real soccer had started.

      • rhywun

        It’s an easy mistake to make. I’m barely paying attention, the season is so messed up.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        I tried when they had their goofy welcome back tournament. It’s just bad soccer.

      • Bill (Door) Baggins (a Skellington)

        I used to support RSL, but they royally screwed the pooch with their demonstration and lack of awareness that they are players in a business. Screw them and all of MLS.

        I’ll just casually follow Chelsea and leave it at that.

      • Bobarian LMD

        You got a stuttering problem there, Joe?

      • Bill (Door) Baggins (a Skellington)

        I used to support RSL, but they royally screwed the pooch with their demonstration and lack of awareness that they are players in a business. Screw them and all of MLS.

        I’ll just casually follow Chelsea and leave it at that.

    • Jerms

      Im a Yankee fan, but Steve Cohen taking over the Mets is going to give the sports scene a boost. I dont watch football anymore but it sounds like those two are a lost cause.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        They’re in Jersey anyway.

  12. Nephilium

    So here in the Cleveland suburbs, voter turnout is really high. I’ve been in line for 40+ minutes and I’m about halfway through. There’s been one driver who went by the line shouting Trump.

    As comparison, it usually takes less than 15 minutes to get through the line and vote here.

    • rhywun

      No lines for me. They say half of us already voted.

      • UnCivilServant

        You were automatically put down as a party line vote for the democrats and the box your ballot went into was actually a shredder.

      • Nephilium

        News reports also talked about a huge number of absentee ballots and early voting. I was hoping that plus the upper 30’s temps would make this morning quick. I was wrong.

        I’m entertained that there’s a Black guy in front of me wearing a Trump 2020 gaiter.

      • l0b0t

        No lines here in the Rockaways (for early voting, there were long lines every day). As usual, I was shocked by the candidates running in multiple parties; some were both the Democrat and Republican nominee. Also, my Congresscritter in the House, Gregory Meeks, ran unopposed. His wiki article speaks of him being one of the more corrupt House parasites. I wonder how hard it is to get on the ballot?

      • Nephilium

        Depends on if you’ve got the backing of a party.

        Anyone who wants to violate Ohio election law, I’m just about at the no campaigning zone…

      • rhywun

        Also, my Congresscritter in the House, Gregory Meeks, ran unopposed

        Ugh, so sorry.

        Yeah, I voted straight “Conservative”. I didn’t have to vote for any Republicans 🙂

        some were both the Democrat and Republican nominee

        Good grief. I didn’t have that.

    • dorvinion

      Small town Iowa the line was uncharacteristically long.

      At 7:30AM the line was longer than I’d ever seen, probably 35 minutes had I waited.
      Ended up dropping the spawn off at school, grabbed some food and got in line again at 8AM to wait for 25 minutes.

      In 2016 it took me all of about 5 minutes

      • whiz

        Iowa also, I went at 8:45 this morning and there was no line at all. Maybe most of the people in my precinct voted early (my wife did).

    • Sensei

      Karma.

    • Drake

      The old news headline joke:

      “Democrats ahead in early voting, Republicans getting out of work now”

      • Rufus the Monocled

        It makes no sense to me how Biden could make it close. But humans, amirite? I mean, masks and all that.

        Bunch of stupid, scared naked apes who wear fancy clothes is all we are.

      • Festus' Mustache

        Yes. That doddering corrupt old fool will probably win. Not that it will affect us above the 49th in any way. We have a magic line drawn in the snow, dontcha know.

  13. STEVE SMITH

    HI FUNNY GLIBERTARIAN HOOMANS. REMEMBER WRITE IN STEVE SMITH!

    • Trigger Hippie

      Zombie.Almanian.

      Sorry, STEVE.

      • STEVE SMITH

        HIM GOOD CHOICE, BUT HIM NO PROMISE FREE CASCADIA!

      • leon

        Sometimes you have to take what you want STEVE.

      • STEVE SMITH

        STEVE SMITH OFTEN TAKE WHAT WANT. HIM NO MIND BAGPIPES, BUT THINK FREE CASCADIA MOAR NEEDED.

      • Festus' Mustache

        STEVE SMITH HAVE BIG BAG, BIG PIPE!

  14. Rebel Scum

    Hey look, another Atlantic hurricane!

    Wasn’t forecast to be a cat 4…

    Anyway, busy season. I blame Bad Orange Man.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Are you suprised The Atlantic got the basic facts of a story wrong?

      And don’t be surprised if they quote you in their follow up story: “Anonymous source confirms that hurricane is all Trump’s fault”

  15. Not Adahn

    Line was way too long at 06:00 for me to make it back in time for my 7:30 meeting, so I came back home. Waiting until after my 1:1 to head back out.

    I can never lie to you people, so: If I decide not to vote, I will pretend like I did, safe in the knowledge that it will have the same effects.

    The current plan is to write in Semi-Bright Border Colle for prexy, and banginglc1 for veep. I just don’t think he has enough experience at doing nothing at such a high level. The temptation do Do Something when you’re sitting at the Resolute Desk must be superhuman. Therefore, a life form superior to humans is the obvious choice.

    I’ll check out the forums, but I’m worried they will make beloved commentators vanish *pours one out for Vhyrus and MLW*

    • STEVE SMITH

      WHYCOME U NO WRITE IN STEVE SMITH?

      • Not Adahn

        STEVE SMITH NO NEED EAST COAST VOTE!

        ALSO, CASCADIA MORE A LOCAL ISSUE, AND BY LOCAL MEAN RAPE!

      • Cancelled

        Maybe because he doesn’t want STEVE to write in him? and by write in mean…

  16. rhywun

    Enjoy this. I will, thoroughly.

    LOVE that song. ?

  17. Pope Jimbo

    Hah! First the Vikings expose the Packers and now our Gov’s lockdowns are exposing our Wisconsin neighbors for the Trump luving death cultists that they are!

    Wisconsin overtakes Minnesoda in number of Rona cases. Not to worry, we still have 400 more deaths.

    Wisconsin posted fewer infections and COVID-19 deaths all spring and summer — a disparity that put Minnesota health officials on the defensive about their pandemic response — but passed Minnesota on Sept. 11.

    Wisconsin now has 232,296 known infections compared with Minnesota’s 153,620. It has reported 702 deaths since Oct. 1 compared with Minnesota’s 436.

    State infectious disease director Kris Ehresmann said she hopes Minnesotans treat the comparison more like a mirror than a scoreboard, because Minnesota is on a similar trajectory without more mask-wearing, crowd avoidance, social distancing and other measures to slow the spread of the corona­virus that causes COVID-19.

    Minnesota is surrounded by four states with the nation’s highest infection rates, but state leaders have looked east for comparisons because of Wisconsin’s similar geography and urbanization. Minnesota’s new infection rate is 427 per million people per day, according to the COVID Exit Strategy website, while Wisconsin’s rate is 798 and the Dakotas are above 1,300.

    Too bad North Dakota doesn’t have a million people living there so they could crack the 1000 case mark in a day. I guess they will just have to live with their respectable rate.

    I’m impressed by the journalos. Nice of them to only point out that Wisconsin if finally catching up to them in cases. They didn’t take the low road and also compare the two economies and point out that Wisconsin is way ahead because their lockdown got rejected by the courts.

    • rhywun

      Test harder, Minnesoda.

  18. PieInTheSky

    Pie’s official prediction for US elections: Biden by a landslide.

    • UnCivilServant

      Wait, wait, there’s actually money in Milan? I thought they were broke.

      • PieInTheSky

        well if you consider paper to be money…

    • Surly Knott

      Just pissing the money away on shit and stuff.

    • Ted S.

      Did they drive Mini Coopers?

  19. PieInTheSky

    There’s been another terrorist attack in Europe. This is becoming pretty common, sadly. I wonder what could have possibly motivated this one. – I blame the US bombing the middle east

    • hayeksplosives

      Another knifing or beheading by practitioners of the misunderstood religion of peace?

      • DrOtto

        It’s the mostly peaceful religion!

    • LJW

      Hey some of you guys joined in on it too!

      • PieInTheSky

        not the mighty Romanian air force.

      • UnCivilServant

        Famed night-fighters, but nowhere to be found when the sun is up.

      • Bobarian LMD

        What is the maximum airspeed of an unladen bat?

  20. hayeksplosives

    If Dems win, we will be back to increasing dependency on government handouts. Gas will be over 5 a gallon (no fracking), businesses that took a punch with covid will go under when the economy dips.

    The young adults voting for socialism have never experienced anything like the 70s malaise.

    • PieInTheSky

      Gas will be over 5 a gallon – Just like in good old Romania!

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      No one under 35 remembers the fall of the Berlin Wall. 40 y.o., the Reagan administration; 45, Carter and perpetual inflation.

      • robc

        My first political memory is the Ford/Carter election. I don’t remember anything about Ford’s presidency, I just remember the election.

      • Trigger Hippie

        My first political memory was the Dukakis Tank Fiasco.

      • Gdragon

        I remember turning in a Hypercard stack project for school that was a CYOA type thing where the objective was to assassinate Michael Dukakis (I made up a nefarious fictional scenario where he “couldn’t be allowed to win” for the sake of humanity).

        As an 11 year old in Canada I didn’t know anything about the guy’s politics but the election was happening and I’d seen names and pictures and just thought it was a funny idea to run with. Jesse was in there, Bentsen was in there… I thought it was hilarious at the time but I bet if I could read it now it’d seem pretty stupid.

      • Trigger Hippie

        Ha! That’s awesome. I remember thinking as a child that the SNL presidential debates were real and was puzzled over Jon Lovitz/Dukakis.

        Speaking of…can you imagine SNL doing a skit like this to (D) politicians today?

        https://youtu.be/g6za7fdFRpo

        The jokes don’t really land but the point remains.

      • Gdragon

        Yeah I can’t imagine that skit happening today.

        I feel like for a long time there (and it’s probably still ongoing) the SNL political humour was entirely two notes… “Haha the Rs ideas are so terrible!” and “Haha the Ds ideas are so great but they are too weak to get them done!”

      • Festus' Mustache

        Mine was Bobby Kennedy being shot.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Mine are? Correct them if you like.

      • UnCivilServant

        I’m not 40, and I recall the Reagan Presidency. I distinctly recall being surprised when I learned he wasn’t going to be president forever. (I was little, so my understanding of civics was not that good) So I have to simply put forward a few questions – what age is assumed to be the start of memory? What amount of memory of the timeframe ‘counts’, and how much of a multi-year time frame need be within the memory zone for sufficient ‘awareness’ of the implications or circumstance to be assumed?

        In short, how much is “understanding” instead of “remembering”?

      • robc

        I am 51 and don’t remember the Ford presidency, but do the Carter one. So lets go with age 7.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        I can remember clinton being elected in 92 (age 4), but the first memory I have where I understood what was going on was his impeachment.

      • Annoyed Nomad

        Yes, I remember walking past president campaign signs in 1968 (Nixon vs. Humphrey) when going to/from school. That was around age 7.

      • Cancelled

        I’m 52, for at least a few more days, and I recall Watergate, not clearly but I have memories of grown ups talking about it. My earliest memories (one of which may be at least partially created, the other I am pretty sure is actual memory) are from when I was under two. The possibly created one is watching the moon landing with my mom while she did laundry. When I described it to her she confirmed the details I recalled about the setting, so it may be real,. The other one is walking with my Dad in the back yard right after we moved to the house I grew up in and a silly conversation we had.

      • Fourscore

        I remember gas/cigarettes/sugar/butter rationing, I was old enough to walk a block to the corner store. End of WW2, war newsreels at the Sat matinees.

        I want to forget this election and probably will.

    • leon

      We’re going to get it good and hard

    • Tonio

      “Gas will be over 5 a gallon”

      Which will discourage travel which will be good for public health and the environment. Why you hate people, hayeksplosives?

      • PieInTheSky

        Why you hate people, hayeksplosives? – women and minorities in particular

    • Idle Hands

      It doesn’t matter who wins and that will likely occur. We are in for stagflation. Trump won’t make energy absurdly expensive on purpose or raise taxes though.

    • Gdragon

      “The young adults voting for socialism have never experienced anything like the 70s malaise.”

      If I use the term “stagflation” around someone up here these days most of the time they look at me like I’m making things up and I have an asshole in the middle of my forehead (even if they have an economic background of some kind it is still probably 50/50 I’ll get this kind of response).

  21. robc

    Odd and surprising fact: McCormick and Evans both have more career WAR than Bob Feller. Feller did lose 3 years in his prime to THE WAR (part 2), so a reasonable adjustment puts him ahead of both.

    • Drake

      Dwight Evans was one of the very best right-fielders ever – he’s horribly underrated He got steadily better as a hitter throughout his career, was a great fielder (8 Gold Gloves) and had the best arm in the league.

      He’s also a very cool guy who came to my Little League banquet in 1977.

      • robc

        Underrated I agree with. Best arm in the league…maybe…he “only” had 157 career outfield assists. Clemente, for example (although a different league) had 266. I also question great fielder, as his dWAR is negative (it is never going to be too high as an outfielder and his years of DH and 1B pull him down some too).

      • Drake

        Did Evans ever DH other than for an occasional rest? He played his last year in Baltimore because he still wanted to field.

      • robc

        286 games at DH, including 121 in 1990 (zero in OF), his last year in Boston. Before that, mostly for rest. Looks like he switched in 1989 with 69 games at DH that year.

      • Drake

        I vaguely remember as I was on my way to the Persian Gulf that year. They brought in the “future” right-fielder who was nowhere near the fielder or hitter that Evans was – it was really insulting and infuriated me. Instead of retiring with much fanfare in Boston, he heads of to the Orioles where he gets to play in the field.
        I went to a game in Fenway where the Red Sox played Baltimore in Evans’ last season. Standing ovations and much love for the guy – who responded with a couple of hits.

      • Gdragon

        I know it’s splitting hairs discussing who had the very best outfield arm but I like Evans quite a bit and he still takes a backseat to Jesse Barfield for me. I have no idea why players seemed to keep running on him but they paid the mf price.

        I’ve said before that I think I’m fine with it if Dewey is the best outfielder outside of the HoF (even though there are weaker ones already in).

      • Drake

        Bo Jackson might have had the best arm ever, but he didn’t play long and probably wasn’t human.

    • Idle Hands

      kind of crazy.

      • robc

        Feller had 63 career WAR but may have legitimately lost 27 WAR to WW2. Maybe more, as he only played 9 games in 1945, so really lost most of 4 seasons. He would have probably been pushing 100 WAR without the war. He had 10.0 WAR in 1946 alone.

      • Idle Hands

        Feller was an all timer and my Grandfather’s favorite pitcher.

      • Fourscore

        Hit a few HRs as well. Bob was a fave of mine as well

  22. Rebel Scum

    Just in case you’re still against the death penalty.

    Not in principle, just it’s application by the state.

    • Rebel Scum

      its*, even.

  23. PieInTheSky

    Just in case you’re still against the death penalty. I hope they string the fucker up and let the crows eat him. – I am and this or worse cases will not change it

    • rhywun

      I am too but it’s near the bottom of issues I care about. Somewhere below “climate change”.

      • PieInTheSky

        In Romania it is not even an issue. there is no death penalty and no one want to bring it.

      • Cancelled

        So you guys see death as more of a sweet release than a penalty?

    • R C Dean

      Just in case you’re still against the death penalty. I hope they string the fucker up and let the crows eat him

      Gotta check the sidebar on that one.

      Grave robber who mummified 29 dead girls and dressed them up for ‘human doll collection’ seeks releaseGrave robber who mummified 29 dead girls and dressed them up for ‘human doll collection’ seeks release

      • Nephilium

        “Release”

        Full release?

      • R C Dean

        Err, euphemism?

      • Nephilium

        You’re the one talking about human doll collectors…

  24. Idle Hands

    Need to vote but have covid? Not to worry it’s safe

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/02/health/vote-in-person-with-covid-cdc-wellness/index.html

    Can you vote in person if you are currently recovering from Covid-19 or quarantining from being exposed to the virus?
    Yes, says the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, in an email to CNN.
    “CDC’s recommendations for isolating someone who has Covid-19 or quarantining someone who was in close contact with a person with Covid-19 would not preclude them from exercising their right to vote,” a CDC spokesperson wrote in an email on Monday.
    “In-person voting can be carried out safely following CDC’s recommendations for polling location and voters,” according to the spokesperson.

    hahahahahahahaha. We live in an absurd dystopia. Pandemic is over.

    • Nephilium

      Well the polling places will all be closed by 2200, and that’s when the ‘vid comes out…

    • sloopyinca

      These aren’t serious people.

      • Idle Hands

        Voting’s more important than church though you can tell because it’s covered in the 14th as opposed to the *check notes……..yikes nvm.

      • Nephilium

        Dude. I’m here at the polls, and there’s a sign saying this is a safe voting location. A SIGN! What mor do you want?

      • Not Adahn

        NPR solemnly declared that voting was American’s “most fundamental right.”

    • Idle Hands

      If they always knew this why didn’t they open the poles back in march and keep them open through january as a type of covid safe zone while we wait for our bill gate’s poke?

      • Timeloose

        Most of our polling locations are in churches. So the Vid is repelled by ballots but attracted to mislettes and bibles.

    • Count Potato

      WTF??

    • R C Dean

      Yet another 180 from our Public Health Masters. They were saying people should avoid voting in person, but then the early returns looked like Biden wasn’t doing as well as he likely needs to, so it magically stopped being a risk.

    • Rebel Scum

      Sure. Vote with covid. But don’t dare try to fund your existence by engaging in work/commerce.

  25. Rebel Scum

    torching a Starbucks

    Ironic.

  26. mock-star

    Man, they are really sticking with the “Its actually the right wing we’re worried about rioting” narrative, aren’t they?

    • Idle Hands

      It’s pretty amazing, when it’s clear to everyone (even the lefties) the left wing are the ones that are causing the business’s to board up their business’s. It’s pravda esq. Not only do they know they are lieing to you they know you know they are lieing to you.

      • Drake

        Somebody pointed out last night – when the business owners board up their windows, they paint messages supporting BLM on the plywood. If it was really white supremacists rampaging through town, they’d be painting swastikas and KKK messages.

      • Idle Hands

        It’s like a modern day passover.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Which blows my mind how Biden could even remotely be in it. How many rich voters are there? There aren’t enough academics and journalists to put him over the top I reckon.

        How can there be a single SME owner who votes D? Makes no sense to me. Alas, humans.

      • Idle Hands

        It’s stockholm syndrome and the fact they just think a Biden win will make them stop for a couple of years. The democrats are holding a gun to the head of many people telling them what to expect good and hard should they lose again with regards to lockdown measures and riots. It’s effective most people just want them to stop.

      • Overt

        “How can there be a single SME owner who votes D”

        My entire neighborhood is full of them. Suburban affluent whites. They aren’t rural- or even new suburbs. They are living in those first suburban rings built around cities that are still a decent drive to their professional jobs, but outside the city. They live near portland, and LA, and Baltimore- but not IN those cities.

        None of this antifa broken windows bullshit affects them at all- except prove to them that Trump is the worst- he can’t even keep those proles in line. Killing off team red is a no brainer to them, and if some block in downtown is busted up, no problem because the struggle (that they had absolutely zero part in) will ultimately usher in a more benevolent future for those poor people in downtown.

    • leon

      I think it’s just trying to get ahead of the story, by establishing the narrative before it happesn. If Biden wins, as they say is unpossible to not happen, and then nothing happens, no one will apologize.

    • Jerms

      Ive been shown a video of a Proud boy yelling about a civil war, so it must be true.

      • Nephilium

        Are you sure it wasn’t just someone singing Guns and Roses?

  27. The Late P Brooks

    “CDC’s recommendations for isolating someone who has Covid-19 or quarantining someone who was in close contact with a person with Covid-19 would not preclude them from exercising their right to vote,” a CDC spokesperson wrote in an email on Monday.

    “In-person voting can be carried out safely following CDC’s recommendations for polling location and voters,” according to the spokesperson.

    The CDC recommends you get your ass to the polls, and do your duty as a citizen and as a caring human being. Save the world, vote for Biden!

    • pan fried wylie

      GET TO DE CHOPPA, DAMN YOU COHAGEN, I’LL SHOVE MY FIST IN YOUR CHEST AND RIP OUT YOUR FUCKING SPINE, LOOK, FAT!

  28. robc

    The 19th amendment passed in the summer of 1920. The first election women could vote nationwide was 100 years ago.

    • PieInTheSky

      And it was all downhill from there

    • creech

      Yep, it easily doubled the number of moroons who were voting.

  29. Ted S.

    Nobody selected a href=”https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4W5aKwrsYIM”>this for today’s music?

    • PieInTheSky

      certainly not. For one, it does not work.

    • pan fried wylie

      *todays music

  30. Rebel Scum

    Election Day has become a sort of holiday for some doomsday preppers — one of many potential days in the year when the world could end. A few Texans are taking the prospect of civil unrest post-election seriously, even if most of the country is not. These local survivalists are ready for whatever apocalypse happens.

    I definitely need to pick up more booze on the way home.

    • LJW

      We went by Costco on Sunday for our regular monthly stop. Turned around and left seconds after arriving. They had a line out the door one in one out. Freaking panic buyers.

      • robc

        Weird…I was there Friday night and it was perfectly normal.

    • rhywun

      most of the country is not

      O RLY?

      There will absolutely be “civil unrest”. How “seriously” one takes it, one can argue over—and argue over what that even means—but it will happen.

    • Idle Hands

      taco tuesday dude. And HBO max just added Reno 911 for streaming I know how I’m spending my tuesday.

  31. Not Adahn

    When I registered to vote, I put my party affiliation as “Veto Party.”

    I have since then been buried under texts from Elise Stefanek.

    Does this mean that repubs think all third party voters are theirs? Or just all non-dems?

    Anyway, meeting over. Off to the polls. I guess I should probably leave the gat in the car. I don’t remember that being a prohibited place, but knowing NY….

    • UnCivilServant

      If you’re not in one of the defined camps, you might be swayed.

  32. The Other Kevin

    I feel like we’re on the precipice of a very big shit show. So I want to let you all know that this site and all of you Glibs mean a great deal to me, and are often my only link to sanity. Thank you for being here, and thanks to TPTB for all your hard work keeping things going. Fasten your seatbelts, but remember you’re not alone.

    • LJW

      Honestly I think it’s going to be Biden winning with a big enough margin that it doesn’t result in months of lawsuits. Senate could be close I am hoping team red doesn’t lose it. Otherwise it’s going to be a long 2-4 years.

      • Rufus the Monocled

        Wow. That’s depressing.

      • LJW

        Yes, very.

      • Drake

        I’ll take that bet. I think Trump wins a state or two he isn’t supposed to – so the Dem plan to cheat in PA turns out to not matter.

      • Idle Hands

        My brain tells me Biden, but my gut is telling me Trump.

      • robc

        I am sticking with my “for, not against” theory. Lets look at recent races vs an incumbent:

        1980, Reagan ran for something, the shining city on a hill, not just anti-Carter. Win.
        1984, Dont remember what Mondale did, but it didnt work.
        1992, Clinton ran as a new Democrat, young, hip, whatever. It worked. He didnt run on “I am not Bush”.
        1996, Dole, ugh. It was mostly an anti-Clinton campain.
        2004, Not Bush ran against Bush and lost.
        2012, Not Obama ran against Obama and lost.
        2020, This is the most not campaign ever. I have no idea what Biden is running for, everything is about getting rid of Trump. Worse than the GOP in the 1990s.

        My theory says Trump wins in a landslide. Or as landslidey as possible with the NE and West Coast being solid D.

      • Rebel Scum

        My theory says Trump wins in a landslide.

        I hope so. I voted straight red as Team Blue is terrifying these days.

      • UnCivilServant

        I had to vote red down the line, otherwise I’d have been voting for Taxin Tonko and Neil Breslin. Neither of them should still be in office after all these decades.

      • R C Dean

        I have no idea what Biden is running for

        Based on his ads, his campaign is running on fear, and is for a federally enforced masking and lockdown order.

        Oh, and kindly Uncle joe from Scranton.

      • Nephilium

        Here in Ohio, there were quite a few that only Biden could unite the country, and heal the divide.

    • Drake

      Maybe purposefully, they have set a up a dangerous situation. The Left has been fed obvious false polls for months telling them that Biden has 100% chance of winning. The Right only has to look at the 3 rallies a day drawing 30,000 people each to know that enthusiasm and momentum is in their side. Whoever loses will assume shenanigans and lose all faith in the system.
      This is an election where one side will ultimately conclude that the system itself is no longer worth respecting or defending. The Biden camp is much closer to that point, maybe even resolved to it, but still pretending. The Trump side is not there yet, but inching closer. There is no result that can leave both sides satisfied that the system worked as intended. Like the period after the Great War, we are entering a crisis of legitimacy, which begins with the election results.

      • Hyperion

        Biden is now is down now to +2.3 in the swing states on RCP avg. They are intentionally scaling back the big Biden lead that they always knew was bullshit. Mendacious cuntes, intentionally fudging their own flawed polls.

        TMITE

      • prolefeed

        fivethirtyeight is still showing a 90% chance of Biden winning.

        270towin is still showing all the pundit sites showing Biden winning without winning what they define as swing states. The only one that doesn’t is the map based on polls, which shows Texas as a swing state. Which I sincerely doubt it is, influx of CA voters be damned.

        TMITE is still lying big time, in my estimation, and barely hedging their bets.

        Standard disclaimer: it could still be a Biden lock – I’ve been wrong plenty.

      • R C Dean

        TMITE is still lying big time, in my estimation, and barely hedging their bets.

        I suspect their goal has changed from “swing the election with propaganda” to “delegitimize the election and Trump’s second term with propaganda”.

        If they happen to swing the election, that’s a bonus at this point.

    • Trigger Hippie

      Back atcha, bud. Love all you generous, funny, hard working(except for Rufus) misanthropes. The Best/Worst site on the planet.

  33. PieInTheSky

    The age-old tension between Islam and France
    A profound antipathy reaches back beyond the Enlightenment

    https://unherd.com/2020/11/the-age-old-clash-between-islam-and-france/?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups%5B0%5D=18743&tl_period_type=3

    In 1798, Napoleon embarked on the first French invasion of Egypt since the era of the Crusades. He prepared for it with his customary attention to detail. Conscious that he was travelling to a predominantly Muslim land, he sought to make a careful study of Islam. Top of his reading list was, of course, the Qur’an. Raised as he had been to view the Bible as the archetype of scripture, he found it a surprising text. The character of Muhammad’s revelations, he realised, was radically different from that of the New Testament.

    The Qur’an did not content itself with what Napoleon had been brought up to think of as “religion”. Its scope was much broader than that. From fiscal policy to sumptuary laws, it offered prescriptions for entire dimensions of what, in Europe, had long since come to be defined as “secular”. Napoleon, sorting out the library in his cabin, duly catalogued it, not under “Religion”, but under “Politics”.

    • robc

      WWCMD?

      What would Charles Martel do?

      • Festus' Mustache

        Oh, probably bash your head in on a good day. You don’t get named “The Hammer” for nothing.

      • pan fried wylie

        Adam Carolla hardest hit…uhh, yeah, sticking with it.

    • Count Potato

      LOL

      (also, wood)

  34. Festus' Mustache

    Why do I think that Kamala Harris is an Octopus and the rest of us are sea urchins?

  35. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Tardiest Tuesday: Molotovs Are Peaceful Protest, Interstate Blockades are Peaceful Protest, Trump Trains Are Terrorism

    ‘You shallow little hypocrite’: The View’s Ana Navarro shreds Marco Rubio for mocking Biden-Texas bus assault

    Navarro said that she spoke to a police chief in Miami who told her that what those Trump supporters did was a felony and would be charged as “aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.”

    But for her it was Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) that “incensed” her.

    “I can’t believe it’s happening in America in 2020,” she said. “When I saw Marco Rubio last night at this Trump rally, Rubio who president Trump used to refer to as Little Marco Rubio, referred to — has now turned into little Trump. And he took a break from tweeting Bible verses to make fun and mock and make a joke about what people did with this bus. It endangered people’s lives. People could have been hurt. It’s an aggression against democracy. Against people’s rights to vote. It’s suppression. it’s instilling fear in people. It’s absolutely wrong and Marco Rubio, you who talk about socialism and talk about dictatorships to be making fun of this and making light of this, you shallow little hypocrite, I’m so embarrassed I ever supported you!”

      • Rebel Scum

        I thought something was amish.

    • Festus' Mustache

      There are about ten members of the media that I would actually hold down and face-fart. Ben Shapiro is #1 but Brian Stelter and Ana Navarro? They’d have to ask for mercy. Rachel Maddow gets a pass because she’s a true believer. That asshole attached to Mika’s teat get a kick in the nuts and Toobin… what’s left to be said about Toobin?

      • Idle Hands

        I really dislike ben shapiro. He’s the ted cruz of political commentators, I totally get the viceral disgust of him because I feel it too. Did I mention his wife is a doctor?

      • Count Potato

        I’m not a socon, but I don’t dislike Ben Shapiro.

      • Idle Hands

        my dislike for him is purely aesthetics. I can’t stand the sound of his voice.

    • rhywun

      I ever supported you!

      Yeah, right.

      • R C Dean

        Eh, when he was playing RINO buttboy to Trump’s reactionary populist, sure.

  36. The Late P Brooks

    First, they complained about her “unusual” absence from the campaign trail, now they whine about her “partisanship”

    The first lady’s remarks on the trail have been explicitly partisan and more combative than most of the public remarks she has given during her tenure in the White House. Trump also targeted Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.
    “Why should we trust Joe Biden when he suggests he can do a better job? All you have to do is look back on his 47 years in political life to determine whether you think he is suddenly capable of putting the American people first,” said the first lady, echoing her husband’s line of attack.

    Melania Trump also spent time during her campaign speech lamenting instances of discrimination against Trump staff and supporters.
    “Because of acts of intolerance and even violence, honest and hardworking Americans are sometimes afraid to put Trump signs in their yards. Members of our White House staff have been thrown out of restaurants just for serving their country. Even big tech companies are now politically censoring us. All this from the supposedly tolerant left,” she said.

    The first lady, who last month battled coronavirus, told the crowd of about 250 attendees, most of whom were wearing masks, that the media and Democrats are politicizing the pandemic.

    The Democrats, together with the media, have attempted to make Covid-19 the most politically charged, polarizing, and divisive topic of the last decade. Instead of working with our administration to unify and protect our nation, they only sought to attack us,” she said.

    The numbers of coronavirus cases are surging across the nation, and medical experts, including those on the White House’s own coronavirus task force — Dr. Deborah Birx and Dr. Anthony Fauci — have warned of the dangers ahead for Americans as winter looms and there remains no comprehensive federal plan for prevention.

    And CNN helpfully proves her point.

    • Idle Hands

      I’d vote for Melania. You tell me who understands america better than a gold digging ukrainian immigrant on a work visa?

      • R C Dean

        A coke snorting American with a no-show Ukrainian job?

      • juris imprudent

        *stands for uproarious ovation*

    • Festus' Mustache

      Surging. That can be a good or a bad term. Fucking assholes. Leave Melania alone!

    • Count Potato

      “there remains no comprehensive federal plan for prevention”

      What sort of plan do they expect?

      • prolefeed

        National lockdowns and mask mandates – until the “cases” magically go down once Harris Biden is in office.

  37. Rebel Scum

    Biden still lyin’

    “Trump doesn’t want y’all voting, he doesn’t want Americans voting,” Biden added. “He thinks only wealthy people should vote.”

    The Democrat nominee added that voters should come out on Election Day and show that “we’re done with the chaos, we’re done with the racism, we’re done with the tweets, the anger, the hate, the failure, the irresponsibility.”

    • leon

      I see. A campaign based off of not inciting racial strife.

  38. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloop!

    What a fucking messy world, eh?

    I’m off to choose the form of my destructor, but I wanted to thank you for the lynx and for that fucking awesome song!

    Have a great day, peeps. Don’t let the fuckheads get you down!

  39. STEVE SMITH

    STEVE SMITH GO VOTE – NO LINE, JUST HOOMANS RUNNING AWAY, YELLING. STEVE SMITH VOTE FOR STEVE SMITH!

  40. PieInTheSky

    So since the forum thing I no longer see the dashboard to submit my awesome posts.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Function is still there, under “logged in as”.

      • UnCivilServant

        I don’t even see that. The whole bar where it would have been is just grayspace.

      • PieInTheSky

        hmm thanks

    • Festus' Mustache

      Romanians cannot see themselves. Knew it!

  41. Semi-Spartan Dad

    A few Texans are taking the prospect of civil unrest post-election seriously, even if most of the country is not.

    I’ve said before that normalcy bias is a blindspot most people have. Earlier this year, we saw stripped shelves and actual food lines to get into grocery stores. There’s nightly video of constant civil unrest happening across the country leading up to election. Of course the prospect of post-election civil unrest should be taken seriously.

    We’ve reached a bizarre point in society where the stockpiling of food and supplies for weather-related events is “acceptable” but preparing for entirely foreseeable man-caused events like the pandemic shutdowns or civil unrest is “paranoid”.

    • rhywun

      They’re just flat-out lying to us, as usual. They mostly ignore the riots anyway, so might as well pretend it’s only deplorable yokels who foresee more of them.

  42. Festus' Mustache

    Wifey could have voted today in your rigged and unfair election but somehow she has more important things to do. She’s been at either stage 8 or just apathy for about 40 years.

    • Rufus the Monocled

      She’s American?

      • Festus' Mustache

        Indeed. Landed Immigrant. She’d be voting n Washington State so it doesn’t matter much even if she went Republican. She hates the Drumphler.

      • Nephilium

        Damn Canucks stealing our fine American women!

        🙂

      • pistoffnick

        Feckin degens from upcountry stealin’ our wimmin, too.

        *spits*

  43. The Late P Brooks

    As I was turning it off, the Bloomberg limey said, “The scars of 2016 run deep”. Haha, just wait.

    If (and I fear it’s a BIG if) Trump wins, a lot of Wall Street types who have been counting on a big infusion of BidenBux stimulus are going to be very very unhappy.

    • leon

      If it looks good for Trump you will see a collapse of stock prices.

      • robc

        Which we have in the last week.

      • Count Potato

        Dow and 500 up about 2%.

        Remember when Trump won, the market when down because they were expecting Hillary to win, then quickly went back up again. And then it went up rather steadily until covid.

      • B.P.

        Dow gained 400 yesterday. CNN said it was because Wall Street-types have determined Biden will win.

  44. CPRM

    That whole ‘forum’ thing is new and it frightens me.

    Also, gonna be heading out to vote soon, then I can start the drinking to forget this reality.

  45. Rebel Scum

    Voter fraud is a myth.

    Authorities have uncovered an attempt to register dozens of dead people as Democratic voters in Broward County.

    Though officials said no mail-in ballots were requested or cast under the falsified voter IDs, the scheme exposes weaknesses in Florida’s voter registration process, which relies partially on the honor system.

    An unknown person in Columbia, S.C., submitted at least 54 new voter applications in July in the same neat handwriting to the Broward elections office, several in each of 19 envelopes. Many of the voters were elderly, and had recently died in the Northeast.

    Almost all of them were flagged by Broward elections office staff as suspicious, and turned over to the Broward State Attorney’s Office. Prosecutors have been watching since August, in a sting operation to catch the culprit, internal correspondence shows.

  46. db

    I voted this morning.

    Standing in line (1.5 hr from stepping into the line to walking out the door), there was a woman and her man 3-4 places behind me. She got into a conversation with someone coming out of the building who recognized her. Turns out the lady in line is a member of the local Democratic Committee. She spent a lot of time complaining loudly about not having signal on her phone and making snarky comments about Trump voters and how you can tell them by the way they drive.

    Maybe don’t be such an annoying, rude person in public if you are a member of a political party’s local organizing committee?

  47. Rebel Scum

    Well, I’m convinced. Maybe do another sanctimonious psa. Those work well.

    • rhywun

      Takei with his face mask SMDH

      You would think someone who has first-hand knowledge of actual camps would see what’s coming. ?‍♂️

      • prolefeed

        He thinks he won’t be in said camps, just icky people. He’s a diehard Dem, despite it being FDR who put him in actual camps. Cognitive dissonance writ large.

  48. Sean

    Got in line at 6:38 this morning to vote. The polls opened up at 7:00 am. We were back at the car by 8:10.

    The line was pretty long when we got there, but it moved fairly quickly once the polls opened. There wasn’t a lot on our ballots to color the bubbles.

    • leon

      Did you draw a fun picture in your scantron?

      • Sean

        I did not.

        I did get to feed my ballot in to the machine and verify my vote got counted.

    • db

      Our polling place had two lines: A-M, N-Z. The skew was amazing. By my count, 95% of people standing in line were A-M. And yes, everyone knew about the division because the poll workers kept coming out and begging for N-Z named people.

      The line took nearly twice as long to empty as if they had had a more flexible option, or had set the split further up in the alphabet.

      • Raven Nation

        Ours was A-K (which I’m in) and they were still begging for A-K people.

      • slumbrew

        begging for A-K people.

        It’s a trap!

        Tell them you lost yours in a boating accident.

      • prolefeed

        Changing the letters to, say, A-H would be too hard, apparently.

      • db

        Maybe next time. I talked to the polling supervisor about this. Because they have alphabetically sorted signature books, they can’t change the sorting or split on the day of the vote. Each line has its own book with only the names above or below the split, as appropriate.

    • banginglc1

      I’ve found the lines are shortest mid day, about 2 pm. So I’ll go vote for myself then.

      Thanks Not Adahn for make me VP. . . .I think I’ll contest the election if I don’t win. Clearly that would be a major error.

  49. Timeloose

    I drove past my polling station this morning here in the battleground state of PA. I hoped to get in quickly to vote before my morning meeting. I have never seen this poll location this busy before in my life. I passed 3 other locations on my way to work and saw the same, lines of cars and people waiting to vote. I expect a record turnout as compared to last 20-30 years.

    I don’t know what this means for PA as a whole, except there has been more Biden signs this year than Hillary signs. Our County flipped last prez election and some say this is what turned PA Red. I don’t know if this will happen this year.

    I’ll have to vote after work or at lunch if possible. My vote might count for more than at any time in my life.

    This will get interesting as PA doesn’t start counting absentee votes until it counts in person votes. It will be along night.

    • robc

      With all the early voters, why are lines so long? You would think the early voting numbers would reduce the lines significantly.

      • leon

        Ahh. Nobody voted early, the lines were too long.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I read somewhere that early voters are expected to break about 65-35 for Biden and in person will do about the same for Trump. A surge in early voting is generally expected to boost Biden and high election day numbers is generally expected to benefit Trump.

      • littleruttiger

        That is my rough understanding as well

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’ve read a lot of things. I think this election is throwing the book out the window.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Very true, but this trend makes sense on a gut-check. I don’t know about the exact proportions, but the Dems have been pushing early voting as hard as possible while the Trump has told supporters to not trust it and wait for election day.

      • UnCivilServant

        Traditionally, the early voters skewed Dem.

        This year, the early votes cast by party afiliation have not had that skew. This doesn’t mean that the votes were party-line, so… *shrug*

        What that means, we’ll have to wait and see.

      • Timeloose

        There are a lot of old folks here who traditionally vote absentee regardless of affiliation, but this year is unusual. Some say the older folks are mad about the Vid keeping them home and worry about “fraud” so they are voting in person.

      • Cancelled

        That makes sense logically, but that just means the people who made the prediction used similar assumptions to my own. I try to keep the fact that models are not data in mind these days.

    • Urthona

      I voted just now and it took 3 seconds. As it always does on election day.

      • robc

        I voted on Friday, had the day off from work, so went to the early voting center (at my church). Took about 50 minutes. Line stretched around parking lot but moved fast. Down ballot, there was a tax proposal question that literally was 3 pages long. I voted no based on 3 principles:

        1. My Mom taught my to always vote No on ballot questions.
        2. It was a tax.
        3. It was THREE FREAKING PAGES LONG IN THE DESCRIPTION, I AINT PARSING THAT ON ELECTION DAY.

      • UnCivilServant

        It was THREE FREAKING PAGES LONG IN THE DESCRIPTION, I AINT PARSING THAT ON ELECTION DAY.

        They were probably counting on that, so a no vote means “Yes, tax me more”

      • robc

        No, I read enough to make sure of that.

      • Urthona

        Reading is totally gay.

      • Rebel Scum

        always vote No on ballot questions.

        We had one on a property tax exception for veterans. I respect veterans but no, you do not get special tax treatment.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        I swear we (VAers) get this one every year. And it inevitably passes every year. I don’t understand what state tax handouts are left for this group.

        Our county also had the balls (or lacks all shame) to ask for an increase in the local sales tax for the schools. The ones that are shutdown and police are being dispatched to houses to threaten parents with arrest if their children have missed more than 3 Zoom sessions.

      • Nephilium

        There was both a local school tax levy (extension, which triggers every ad to say NOT AN INCREASE) and one for the public libraries. Both of which where shut down for most of the year…

    • juris imprudent

      We just went expecting to catch it at a slow point. WRONG. Not waiting for that now, we’ll go back when work day is done.

  50. Festus' Mustache

    Thanks for the tasty links, Sloop! I hope that everything works out just right but just in case, keep yer powder dry!

  51. littleruttiger

    I’m leaning about 55-45 towards a Trump victory – not based on anything really, just a gut feeling combination of the rioting, lockdowns, Biden’s oil comments in the second debate, and a comparison between Trump/Biden rallies.

    I’ve been staying with a friend in AZ for a couple months, I don’t think it turns blue – this is just based on driving around and noticing Trump signs/supporters (in a red area, which means nothing, so all these ramblings aren’t worth anything)

    • littleruttiger

      Also, I think the fact that Biden is/has been campaigning so heavily in PA, I think Kamala is going to PA/MI today, indicates their internal polls are saying something different than the public polls. Of course, this could just be trying to avoid Clinton’s mistake last time, but I would have to think that if Texas/Florida was really in play, as at least some polls indicate, way more resources would have been devoted there

    • R C Dean

      I’ve been wobbling between 55-45 Trump wins, and 60-40.

      I’m going with 60-40. Its the stink of desperation coming off the Dems.

    • whiz

      I’ve been taking the poll results reported in RealClearPolitics and normalizing them to Rasmussen’s numbers, since Rasmussen was fairly accurate last time, and averaging the results. I wrote an Glib article but it never showed up. Anyway, If you add another 1 or 2% for Trump due to shy voters, etc., AZ does go Trump, as does FL (although it is close), NC, GA, and probably NV. But PA is dead even after all that.

    • Drake

      Antifa dresses up as Klansmen but BLM isn’t in on the gag and guns them down?

    • leon

      I’d laugh so hard if that ended up leading to Antifa on Antifa violence.

  52. Count Potato

    “Because there’s no telling what tomorrow will bring.”

    Hopefully, it won’t be much worse. But all this shit, on top of the the covid shit, is getting to me.

  53. tarran

    It’s a beautiful day here in MA except that our dictator has come up with a new bit of flatulance.

    Apparently social distancing and masks aren’t working. Therefore we must do these ineffective things harder. Masks are to be worn out in public even if you are more than six feet apart. There’s a curfew from 10PM – 5AM. All restaurants are to close at 9:30. No visiting the homes of other people. Only leave home for essential trips.

    Just remember Charlie Baker was the least totalitarian candidate for governor in both of his elections. See why voting is a sucker’s game?

    • rhywun

      I’m guessing that’s coming to all the Blue states sooner or later. Fuck.

      • Florida Man

        It’s a gorgeous day. 67, clear skies and sunny. Had my annual check up and broke my fast with some tasty Waffle House. The best part is, later today, I get to watch Rhywun eat his hat. ?

      • Florida Man

        Oh yeah, I gained 5 pounds from last year’s physical, but I went down an inch in pant size. Throw your scales away people.

  54. Aloysious

    It’s erection day!

    hooray?

    • Festus' Mustache

      Lancing a boil is always a good thing, no matter how painful.

  55. Urthona

    538 says Democrats have a 75% chance of taking the Senate.

    • Sean

      Not buying it.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        You don’t have to buy, you’re going to get it free of charge, good and hard.

      • juris imprudent

        Free? Ha! We’ll pay dearly for it.

      • PieInTheSky

        Sean. Face fact my dude. Trump is out. Dems take everything. The supreme court is as good as packed. Embrace it. You will finally have safe cities and socialized healthcare. Just like Merry Old England.

      • Sean

        I’m sticking to my guns and not gonna waffle this late in the game.

        If it turns out you were right, I’ll give you all the credit you’d be due.

      • Festus' Mustache

        #metoo with all the raping that implies. I just don’t see it.

      • Hyperion

        Same here. If it turns out Pie is wrong, he must change his posing name to CNN for the remainder of time.

      • PieInTheSky

        Pie is never wrong. When was Pie ever wrong? Can you even name one time?

      • Cancelled
      • Hyperion

        So Pie must change posting name to CNN and eat Eel Pie forever. Sounds good.

      • Rebel Scum

        I’m sticking to my guns and not gonna waffle

        Maybe wash the syrup off your hands before playing with your guns.

      • LJW

        I agree regarding Biden, but I’m not sure on the Senate. If it’s like the 2018 “blue wave”, I think the Republicans will narrowly hold on.

      • Viking1865

        What’s going to be interesting is if Trump is like Obama in that he has a big fanbase of people who like him but who will not bother turning out to elect the Reps and Senators he needs to get his agenda passed.

        I always thought 2018 was a lot more about the Establishment GOP trying to straddle the line between Trump and the supposed Giant Mass of Rockefeller Republicans that their Very Good Friends in the media assured them would only vote for The Right Sort of Republican.

        If every Virginian who voted for Trump in 2016 had been motivated to vote for RINO Bitch Ed Gillespie in 2017, Governor Blackface would have lost. But hundreds of thousands of fire breathing MAGA people had no interest in a country club Republican who openly disparaged them.

      • Urthona

        Luckily we’ll know later today if it’s bullshit or not.

      • R C Dean

        The Senate at least should be sorted out today. Probably. It could well come down to one or two very close races that have recounts and shit, though.

    • PieInTheSky

      Sell your gun stocks and your oil stocks.

    • robc

      They also say that a 3% poll error in Trumps favor probably ends the Dems chances of taking the Senate.

      • Urthona

        Oh you actually read the article?

        Nerd alert!

    • Rebel Scum

      Psht…

    • Festus' Mustache

      Yikes! Speaking of lancing a boil… If you poked her ass I’d wager she’d get airborne like a balloon.

    • The Gunslinger

      Nope. Taut and.

      • The Gunslinger

        Taut abs.

    • rhywun

      “It’s happening!”

    • Festus' Mustache

      “I want to believe..”

    • leon

      You know the old saying: As goes Dixville Notch so goes America.

      • Hyperion

        Dixville Notch- population 3. All three are Karens who own a combined 26 cats.

        Not the Bee

  56. DEG

    Wow. It looks like I missed some fireworks last night.

    • PieInTheSky

      fireworks? during a pandemic? I doubt it.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Gah. Too much going on. I might be arsed to go back and look but probably not. Somebody will have egg on their faces,

    • Hyperion

      Contrary to popular belief, I did not start that.

      • Cancelled

        He replied to you! You started it!

      • leon

        Was i not supposed to do what i did?

      • Hyperion

        “He replied to you! You started it!”

        Well, you have to admit it was very clever and I did admit it’s only because I miss John and Eddie. Bring back the good ol days!

      • Cancelled

        I miss Eddie.

      • Aloysious

        I’m honestly surprised there wasn’t a cat-butting. I love this place, and fear SP’s rusty can lids, so i try really hard not to be retardy.

        That said, I can’t get the image of HM’s hairy balls out of my head.

        I have issues.

    • KOVIDKristen

      This is why I hate groups.

  57. Not Adahn

    So, I don’t have the option of adding media or doing anything else contributor-related. I appear to be logged in enough to comment, but the “login” option is still at the top of the page.

    • Count Potato

      LOL

  58. DEG

    Sutter County Superior Court Judge Sarah Heckman tentatively ruled that one of the dozens of executive orders Newsom has issued overstepped his authority and was “an unconstitutional exercise of legislative power.”

    It’s a good start.

  59. Mojo Jojo

    I am going to be staying off social media today, much like I am starting to do every day. I rarely use Twitter anymore (I’d been a heavy Twitter user for most of the last 12 years). On FB I have snoozed every lefty/prog in my stream that came to my attention. I only hit up the cross stitching group on FB that I’m on (no politics, strictly enforced, every post has to be approved by a mod). Reddit’s a no-go because even the cross stitching sub is highly politicized. I’ll stick to the good ol’ fashioned quibbling here, thanks.

    So the new forum. @SP thank you! Now I haz confuze and probably will until we get down who posts in the forum, who doesn’t, and when.

    • Urthona

      Are you effing kidding me? I’m grabbing my popcorn and heading straight to social media after this.

      • Rebel Scum

        I may go witness the tears when Trump is announced as the winner.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Yeah the posting is curious but as stated earlier, a fine idea.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I like chaos in my life, so the forum makes sense to me.

    • Nephilium

      Different things for different uses. I have a feeling the forum will be better for long thought out arguments, discussions about recipes and cooking methods, and the like. While we still have our hot takes, general chaos, and topical anarchy here in the posts.

      • UnCivilServant

        I have a feeling it will be at least as chaotic as the main comments threads if not more so.

      • Mojo Jojo

        I’m hoping the forum will allow us to stay on topic for future searching. There’ve been several discussions we’ve had here that I wish I could find (that I NEEDED to find). Hyperbole found one of them for me and I will never understand how he did it.

    • Festus' Mustache

      Have you seen half of the toddlers that visit Santa? This is a fine idea! Just hold the little fuckers up in front of his throne and most of them seem to burst into tears of terror. Maybe little ones are hep to the groove?

  60. PieInTheSky

    Everyone will be happier in the new vegan gun free world. Not like we will have a choice. After the reeducation camps. I hope they have AC during the summer at reeducation camp but I doubt it AC harms Gaia.

    • Urthona

      My guns have always been carnivorous.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Mine are mostly papertarians, with an iron supplement from time to time.

    • PieInTheSky

      Just think of all the money you save. No ammo costs. No gas costs. No steak costs. No electricity costs. You learn to make your own rushlights.

      • Not Adahn

        Yeah, but what will you spend the savings on? All the whores will be fat AMABs.

  61. Gustave Lytton

    Missing from the birthdays list: Jeremy Brett, Adam Ant, Lulu, Jake Shimabukuro, Amartya Sen. Also Mike Dukakis, Anna Wintour, Sen Hirono, and Kaepernick.

    Red red sky this morning and wild turkeys are attacking.

    • Cancelled

      Red red sky this morning and wild turkeys are attacking.

      Trumpist!

    • db
    • UnCivilServant

      If New York ends up one vote away from flipping, I blame you.

      • Not Adahn

        You should be blaming all those other people who refused to vote for the objectively superior candidate.

    • Nephilium

      I was wearing my Fuck the Polis shirt. I was waiting to have someone tell me I was in the no campaigning zone.

    • Grummun

      If a “Semi-Bright Border Collie 2020” t-shirt appeared in the Glib store, I’d buy one, just sayin’

  62. Certified Public Asshat

    Does Joe Biden Really Want This Job?

    I asked Leavitt which if any American presidents over the past 100 years took office in circumstances as daunting as those that Biden, if elected, would face. “I’m not a student of Roosevelt,” he said, referring to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, “but you have to go back at least that far.”

    “It is staggering,” Claire McCaskill, the Democratic former senator from Missouri, told me. “It is staggering.” One “staggering” wasn’t enough to describe Biden’s potential burden, the heaviness of which left political veterans grasping for adjectives and analogies.

    “His to-do list is just … gross,” she said

    Ah, it’s not because he is old and should be playing checkers at the senior center. It’s because Trump has ruined everything.

    • Hyperion

      I do not recall a presidential candidate looking as miserable as Biden. I’m not sure if it’s the dementia or if it’s the fact that the democrat party forced him to do it against his will.

    • Viking1865

      Yeah setting it up to declare victory over the COVID by the time the flowers bloom.

      The media starts slowly turning down the COVID Fear Porn over the holidays. POTUS Biden creates a Special Task Force on Day 1. Kindly Uncle Joe Biden announces COVID is under control with a big national speech around Valentines Day. Rejoice across the land.

      • Hyperion

        “creates a Special Task Force on Day 1”

        And by February, we have a massive new health care behemoth bureaucracy with police powers and camps set up for those who resist having thermometers stuck up their ass and their DNA swabbed every time they go out into public.

  63. Not Adahn

    Since people are probably going to be slinging around probabilities today:

    https://xkcd.com/2379/

    • Count Potato

      Fuck that guy. I used to like him before he went full commie.

  64. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Suggested reading for glibs, Robert Caro’s biography of LBJ, all four existing volumes.

    If you weren’t cynical about politics before, you will be afterwards. Suffice it to say, the odds are extremely good that Johnson had Kennedy killed, and he had a personal hitman who helped him cover up an extramarital affair, among other things.

    • Urthona

      Was he truly a racist?

      • Cancelled

        Duh, he was obviously white.

      • leon

        Elizabeth Warren is othered by your statement.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        He was an utter piece of shit, a filthy human being who cared only for power.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        At least he didn’t run in ’68. Damned dog-ear mauler.

      • Idle Hands

        If he was than it was truly the least loathsome part of his politics as it was the only part of him that stood for anything besides power.

    • wdalasio

      But, Trump is the one “undermining the dignity of the office” and “violating presidential norms”.

      God, these people are utterly repulsive. If anything, Trump is mildly less repulsive because he hasn’t honed the art of putting a pretense on his repulsiveness. I’m utterly convinced that the political class is overwhelmingly comprised of utter garbage human beings. Who else is willing to go through the personal degradation of the entire thing just for the chance to have a little power to wield over other people.

      • Bones

        +1

    • l0b0t

      Seconded, Caro’s tomes are a slog, but well worth the effort. The JFK crew hated Johnson, constantly referring to the VP and his wife (behind their backs) as “Colonel Cornpone and his little Porkchop”.

      • Fourscore

        LBJ said he liked the dogs, “Him” and “Her” in bed rather than Lady Bird.

    • Fourscore

      I read the Caro books. 100 pages talking about the west tx desert dirt. LBJ was a big stinker…

    • Agent Cooper

      I am shocked people who lived through LBJ think Trump is some kind of monster.

  65. prolefeed

    Rhywun on November 2, 2020, 7:11 PM [+][Mute]

    Am I the only one who hasn’t voted yet?!

    Am I the only one who hasn’t been registered to vote for at least 3 election cycles?

    • Hyperion

      I lost my registration sometime after the last presidential election because evul libertarians were tossed by this commie state in favor of yet another commie party no one has ever heard of.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Funny, it shows here you’re both registered and vote in every election…

    • Surly Knott

      No, first time for me. I feel dirty, but some people desperately need to be voted against.

  66. Ownbestenemy

    I will say, Trump had a hell of a campaign machine and stuck to his guns. Hopefully in years to come, we will get a curious reporter to ask the Biden campaign what the hell theirs was. Happy Tuesday everyone – now off to work from home. And I am at work.

  67. KOVIDKristen

    “Get out and vote [except for Trump]!”

    “Make sure you vote today [except for Trump]!”

    “Please vote [except for Trump]!”

    A summary of my Facederp this morning

      • Hyperion

        From the new Glibtionary edition 2020:

        Activist – a perpetually aggrieved untalented, unattractive, unpopular Xe who wants your miserable company.

    • Urthona

      I took a single political science class in college as an elective, and the topic of the class was “political participation and mobilization”.

      This was in the 90s, mind you, so there may be more and new data now.

      But the theme of the class was exploring political participation. There were several myths at the time and one of the most widespread ones was that “political participation and voter mobilization benefits Democrats”.

      We analyzed every major American election in detail for 100 years and let me assure you. It doesn’t. Period.

      What about young poll? They don’t vote much and are mostly left-leaning, right?

      Except in no election analyzed would it have actually swung the outcome had they voted as much as everyone else.

      Most of the class participants were somewhat disillusioned by this.

      I could get into it more detail as it shattered a number of participation myths, but that’s the most important take.

      The reason why Democrats are always “rock the vote” is they still believe deep in their hearts that everyone who doesn’t vote much somehow feel the way they do. If they would only vote they always win! The evidence suggests they’re wildly and foolishly naive on this point.

      • KOVIDKristen

        Not only that weird idea that everyone who hasn’t voted MUST be voting for “my guy”, but it’s condescending. Everyone fucking knows it’s election day. Everyone.

        Don’t talk to grownass adults like children should be the Golden Rule.

      • Akira

        I never understood this worldview that every single person voting would somehow mean better outcomes.

        I know there are people who don’t vote for moral/philosophical reasons (ironically one thing that An-caps and Communists might agree on) but these are a scant minority. The majority of non-voters are just apathetic and/or lazy – not exactly the kind of people who will spend part of their day researching all sides of an issue in order to make an informed decision. Whoever tugs their heart strings just right will probably get their vote, and that’s not a good thing. A major flaw of democracy is that the most uninformed or willingly deluded person gets just as much of a say as the person who makes decisions based on principled theories of rights rather than a “what’s in it for me” mentality.

      • slumbrew

        I assume Australia is some sort of paradise on earth because voting is mandatory.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        A major flaw of democracy is that the most uninformed or willingly deluded person gets just as much of a say as the person who makes decisions based on principled theories of rights rather than a “what’s in it for me” mentality.

        They get more of a say. The only way I could enact my principles in the voting booth these days would be to vote “none of the above”, which isn’t an option. As a result, I can either compromise, abstain, or protest, none of which are good at sculpting the government to be more in line with my principles. 2 of those 3 have no chance of impacting the resulting government.

  68. LJW

    FFS seeing a lot of “regardless of who wins we should all hope they succeed in their job” posts. Fuck that I hope Kamala fails spectacularly.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Well we know that sentiment will be out the window the minute any of the two put their hand on the bible and swear in. We broke that dam and escalated the feverish rabidness of our tribal warfare.

      • SUPREME OVERLORD trshmnstr

        Fuck the faux pacifists. They’ve been spending the last 4 years being infantile assholes and now that they’re staring down the possibility of blowback, they want to play the “high road” card? No.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Aint no argument from me…wanna fight? Too soon?

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        *throws down gloves*

        *looks around backyard aimlessly*

        *picks up gloves and puts them back on*

    • leon

      But if government is going to exist don’t you want it to be efficient and competent? not wasteful? / DC Think Tank Libertarian.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      She makes Hillary look good, comparatively. Yeesh.

    • Urthona

      It’s not quite clear to me how the line being longer in cities is Republican-lead voter suppression. Counties determine their own polling locations.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Because people are dumb and will follow what a has-been actor says and believe it. Long line? Suppression. Rain forecast? Suppression. Explain that the States/Counties/Cities determine polling places? Suppression. Bad hair-day? Suppression.

    • Hyperion

      That’s completely retarded.

      • pistoffnick

        Sofa King Retarded?

    • Fatty Bolger

      I can’t afford ID! That’s like, half my monthly cell phone plan, man! And I just paid $1000 bucks for this new iPhone, I’m broke!

    • leon

      If your vote isn’t automatically ticked for the Dems, it’s voter suppression.

    • Plisade

      That’s BS. I’ve lived/voted in intermittently affluent, middling and poor neighborhoods, with no such correlation to poll line length. That said, the longest line I’ve been in was in an upper middle class neighborhood.

  69. Drake

    My wife and I just voted. Because we chucked our mail-in ballots we had to fill out provisional ballots. This required us to provide our driver’s license numbers – voter suppression!

    Tucker’s intro last night was fire. I voted against the ruling class.

  70. R C Dean

    Well, the site is dead slow. I’m getting timed out about every third reload.

    Also, the login seems hinky – I’m logged in, obviously, but the bar across the top doesn’t show it. When I hit “Login” and tried to log in again – timed out.

    • UnCivilServant

      The bar is missing for multiple people.

      • Nephilium

        UCS,

        I don’t have the old dashboard line at the top like I used to, but there’s a Login link between Recipe Submission and Register on the main bar that is showing for me.

      • UnCivilServant

        That login was always there, even when the dashboard bar showed up.

        I just keep a separate dashboard tab open in my browser so I can get back there at a whim.

      • Nephilium

        That login link now takes you to another area, or at least it does for me.

    • Sensei

      It’s been that way for me for the past several weeks. Today is specially bad.

    • Fatty Bolger

      Looks like animated avatars stopped working, too.

      • Sensei

        You say that like it’s a bad thing…

    • creech

      Don’t worry, they will allow enough GOP votes in Philly so it doesn’t look like a Soviet style result.

      • leon

        DSA has a sad.

      • WTF

        They didn’t the last time around.

  71. LJW

    Website is running slower than normal this morning. Don’t make me vote for Biden so he can fix this.

  72. wdalasio

    In a sane world, the career path of “politician” would rank somewhere below that of “sewage remediation” in terms of social status. Both are filthy lines of work that one supposes SOMEONE has to do. The difference is that the fellows in sewage remediation don’t generally debase themselves to secure employment and don’t generally secure customers by promising to dump the sewage on their customers’ neighbors’ lawns.

    • WTF

      It should rank below “prostitute”.

  73. The Late P Brooks

    The site is getting really slow.

    The intertubes must be getting clogged.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Good ol’ Cooper Black.

  74. KOVIDKristen

    On this Day of Hate, I’m tryna find a TV network that I can stomach. Not in the mood for the Weather Channel’s endless repetition.

    • Cancelled

      Food Network.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Cooking Channel is better, if you get that one. I like the Michael McKean food history show a bit.

        I leave on TCM if I can’t decide, or Friends reruns (yeah, I know).

    • Sean

      Comet TV.

    • leon

      Listen to minecraft music. It’s calming. And makes you want to play minecraft. Which is about being productive and building.

    • Rebel Scum

      Laff

    • PieInTheSky

      watch youtube like a normal person

    • Hyperion

      This is your new health care Czar. Do not attempt to change the channel, this is an important public announcement, citizen. We have assumed control, do not try to resist. Please report immediately to your local testing center for your daily anal probe and stay safe, citizen.

      • slumbrew

        Stay in view.

  75. The Late P Brooks

    I WANT TO BELIEVE!

    One of the few pollsters who accurately predicted that President Donald Trump would win the 2016 presidential election told Newsweek he feels “more confident every day” that Trump will also win his bid for re-election.

    Key to Trump’s path to victory are his “shy” supporters who aren’t necessarily telling most pollsters the truth about who they will vote for because of societal pressures that have only grown in the last four years, according to Robert Cahaly, a pollster and senior strategist with the Atlanta-based polling company Trafalgar Group.

    ——-

    While Cahaly said he expected an October surprise–style scandal could shake the confidence he had in his predictions, nothing in the same vein as the Billy Bush Access Hollywood tapes from 2016 have come up to introduce brand-new vulnerabilities to Trump’s campaign. Instead, the final presidential debate on October 22 emphasized what he said many of the voters he’s spoken with identify as the most important issue heading into the election: the possibility of another economic shutdown.

    Trump, who has touted the success of the economy before the coronavirus pandemic necessitated shutdowns across the country this year, has repeatedly said he does not want any more closures. Meanwhile, Biden has indicated he is open to additional shutdowns if they are deemed necessary to stifle the virus’s spread.

    “Even [voters] that don’t like Trump, they’re like, ‘I don’t like Trump, but we can’t have another shutdown.’ Because the economy has always trumped—pardon the expression,” Cahaly said. “The economy has always been more important.”

    There really are sane people out there. I just hope there are enough.

    • Akira

      the success of the economy before the coronavirus pandemic necessitated shutdowns across the country this year

      Objection, assumes facts not in evidence.

    • creech

      I’m still pessimistic that there aren’t enough. Biden will get more than 300 ECs and I think the result will be evident by tomorrow morning.

      • whiz

        If you believe Trafalgar’s polls, Trump will take GA, NC, FL, AZ, PA, NV, and MI for 300 EC votes. And come within a % in WI.

      • R C Dean

        creech, I think for Biden to get over 300,

        (a) the polls would have to be accurate, and

        (b)(1) the Dems would have to have a strong enough turnout/the Repubs a weak enough turnout for Biden to take every “too close to call” state or

        (b)(2) the Dems would have to have a strong enough voter fraud game to take every “too close to call” state.

        I’m just not seeing (b)(1) – the early voting is all weaker for the Dems than expected.

    • LJW

      Democrats no longer care about factual data. They only care about feelz and Trump doesn’t give them the good feelz. Biden will save the world, because he says good feelz.

      • R C Dean

        Biden will save the world, because he says good feelz.

        And if you are a certain demographic, he will give you a good feel, also.

  76. The Late P Brooks

    Those voter sentiments didn’t mean they weren’t concerned about the virus, Cahaly said. It just meant that when it came to weighing “acceptable risk versus non-acceptable risk,” voters told him it was an “easy choice” for them to make.

    TOXIC INDIVIDUALISM!

  77. pan fried wylie

    “Waiting for secure.gravitar…”