Monday Afternoon Links of I got Nuthin’

by | Nov 16, 2020 | Daily Links | 380 comments

How now, Swiss Brown cow?

 

Frankly, I am getting burned out. So you will have to do with some pretty unremarkable set up and some bland links.

Not that this will stop the links post from serving its primary purpose…comments! In honor of my links being so blah, go OT right away and fear no cow butt. Whee.

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Swiss Servator

Swiss Servator

Currently serving at the pleasure of a Swiss multinational. Previously a Soldier, rugby player, lawyer, bouncer, bartender, substitute teacher, risk manager, and cubicle mushroom. Will work for raclette.

380 Comments

  1. KOVIDKristen

    Neither do I

  2. leon

    Bernie Sanders claims majority of Americans support a ‘far-left agenda’ that includes raising minimum wage to $15 as he says he’d accept a position in President-elect Joe Biden’s cabinet

    So much so that you couldn’t even muster 30% of the far left party vote.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Like that matters /Kamalala

      • leon

        I agree / Gerald Ford

      • PBRstreetgang

        **Stomps feet and slaps bare tummy before charging forward ** — Kamala the Ugandan Giant

    • prolefeed

      To be fair, if you counted infants and kids under 18, and possibly some dead people, as natural leftists, wouldn’t that get the far-left up to 50.1%+ ?

    • Urthona

      Actually the majority of Americans do support the minimum wage thing. Have for over a decade.

      • blackjack

        The majority of Americans just shut up and do what they’re told, by CNN and NBC. I don’t care what they want.

      • mrfamous

        Raising the minimum wage is always extremely popular. That it’s an extremely bad idea doesn’t seem to matter.

      • Urthona

        Yup.

  3. The Other Kevin

    I am also jealous. In our case, maybe one of the three wouldn’t be Trump or Biden. But with our luck the third would be Harris.

    Bernie is correct. Most people want the far left agenda, that’s why the Dems won so many House and Senate races.

    • Count Potato

      As President-Elect, I promise to ban polling and daylight savings time.

      • pistoffnick

        “…ban…daylight savings time”

        Well, Hello, President ‘Tater

      • blackjack

        +1 I thought I was killing time, but it turns out, time was killing me.

      • Threedoor

        Ban standard time. Set it at summer and forget it.

      • Mad Scientist

        ^^^^THIS!!!!!^^^^^

    • juris imprudent

      Keep going left guys! You’re only one more election from complete vindication. Never mind that cliff, no, no, you just keep going left.

  4. Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

    Question for those Glibs more in tune with current thinking: Do I have to wear the memetic uniform to join in a group activity? I don’t like hawaiin shirts.

    • Animal

      Flannel. It’s America’s fabric.

    • leon

      form your own Battalion with your own rules. And Hookers.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        General Hooker seconds the motion.

    • Sean

      Nope.

      Bring bourbon and bacon though.

      • TARDis

        And ammo, plenty of ammo.

    • kinnath

      I prefer Indonesian to Hawaiian.

      • Fourscore

        Hey, I like those, are they made in China?

  5. blackjack

    Peru. Unaffiliated outsider taking on Peru’s deep state. Unsuccessfully impeached once and then it stuck. People got pissed and protested. Whole thing sounds a bit familiar. Maybe we should just start growing bananas and give up.

  6. Rebel Scum

    “If there is a Hungarian veto of the budget, there will be a crisis,” a senior EU diplomat involved in the preparations for the ambassadors’ meeting said.

    Everyone will go hungry?

    • Pope Jimbo

      Boo! Boo! Boo, da pest is making bad puns again

      • Plisade

        Bad puns are more popular here than a hung Aryan in a nazi whorehouse.

      • Pope Jimbo

        It’s twue, it’s twue

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      Send him to the gulash.

  7. Ownbestenemy

    I am guessing Bernie’s seat is safe? With that razor-sharp margin wouldn’t it better to stay where you are until after 2022 to see if you pick up seats? Of course, this is all on the assumption that everything is on the up and up.

    • leon

      If they push it will be hilarious when they get a 2010 style wolloping in 2022.

      • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

        Less funny when they up the tempo of their cheating and never lose another seat.

      • Drake

        This.

        Unless there is a some serious reform, the cheating just moves down ballot in two years. Then when people realize that they’ve been stripped of any voice in the government, for real right-wing violence starts.

    • blackjack

      They have a magic vote making machine. All of their seat are safe, except the ones they sacrifice for the sake of appearances.

      • leon

        What appearances?

      • blackjack

        You can’t win them all and be believable.

      • leon

        Sure you can. Fidel wins all his elections and they believe it!

      • Suthenboy

        When Biden tells voters to their face that he doesn’t need their votes and has the biggest vote fraud organization in history I dont think they give a shit if you believe them or not.

      • Suthenboy

        They have given up on appearances.

        From what I heard Stein say on the radio on the way home today the evidence of massive fraud is starting to pile up. I am thinking there is a good chance this may go before SCOTUS. What a fucking shitshow. It is looking more likely than zero that Trump could end up with another term.

      • blackjack

        When it gets there, there will be three justices who have been personally excoriated with lies by both of the candidates on one side. Should be interesting.

      • juris imprudent

        So from what someone says huh? Show me (and I’m not even from Missouri).

        This massive fraud in Philly supposedly delivered less Dem votes to Joe than Hillary scratched up, and Trump outperformed his ’16 effort. Sooooo?

      • Pope Jimbo

        I’m sure the ones they sacrifice for appearances will all be yucky moderate Dems from flyover country. The ones who are worried about pushing so far left. Those guys will get axed.

  8. Nephilium

    Well, there is one bright side of all of this. Instead of standing in a line all morning on a random day between November and December, Great Lakes is doing an online reservation for the 2020 Barrel Aged Christmas Ale release.

    • robc

      Has anyone done a dutch auction for there limited releases?

      • robc

        s/there/their/

      • Nephilium

        Not that I’m aware of. But (as I’m sure you’re aware), there’s a large segment of craft beer fans who rail against anything like auctions when it comes to rare beers.

        I’m also not sure if it would be legal in every state to do an auction.

    • Agent Cooper

      Christmas Ale is overrated. The good one is Dortmunder Gold.

      • Nephilium

        Edmond Fitzgerald, Ohio City Oatmeal, Nosferatu, Blackout Stout, Elliot Ness, and Burning River are my preferred ones from GLBC. It’s entertaining to me that they have never really been able to nail a solid IPA. They’re drinkable, but they’ve gotten overshadowed by the rest of the breweries up here that nail IPA’s.

  9. Drake

    If a majority of Americans support a ‘far-left agenda’ then why couldn’t Bernie win the Democratic nomination against a corrupt corpse?

    • prolefeed

      The Democrats in power first cheated against someone who was nominally one of their, to preserve the establishment against both left- and (sorta) right-wing threats?

      • Drake

        They did cheat like hell to get mumbly Joe through the primaries.

      • leon

        I like to smash the DNC as much as the next guy, but i really don’t belive that claim. Playing politics to get the centrists to fall into line behind you to screw the outside guy is not cheating. It’s Politics.

        Look back at it, Bernie _never_ managed to get more than 40% of the Vote. Rarely did he get more than 30% of the vote in the Primary. The thing was that He was the only person representing his bloc, when the “Centrists” had 4-5 people running, and they split their vote, so he ended up taking the “win”.

      • Drake

        Who won the Iowa Caucus? Are they still recounting?

        The real cheat was the ordination. When they had everyone except Biden, Bernie, and Elizabeth Warren simultaneously drop out right before some big primaries, it made it impossible for Sanders to win because he would always have to split the crazy vote with Warren. It was well orchestrated and took all the drama out of getting a dementia patient nominated.

      • leon

        That’s called Politics, not cheating.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I agree with Leon. I was going to point out that the Dem establishment forcing out everyone not named Joe Biden just before the SC primaries isn’t cheating. It is just a twist on smoke filled back rooms.

        Bernies other problem was that his supporters – while passionate – never seemed to show up to actually vote in the primaries. Didn’t he underperform in just about every primary?

    • juris imprudent

      It’s the same stupid, transparent lie that every politician uses to stake out some credibility for their own stupidity. Sure, there are SOME voters that believe in you. You’re fucking delusional to believe any majority does.

  10. Rebel Scum

    And you lot don’t care one iota.

    Hurricane Iota is nearing Central America as a dangerous Category 5, where it will bring potentially catastrophic rainfall flooding, mudslides, storm surge and damaging winds for the second time in two weeks.

    Late Monday morning, Iota became only the second Category 5 hurricane on record in November and the record latest-in-season hurricane ever to reach that intensity in the Atlantic Basin. The 1932 Cuba hurricane reached Category 5 intensity from November 5-8.

    • Homple

      It’s global warming what done it, according to some guys I know: one with a master’s degree in electrical engineering and two with master’s degrees in mechanical engineering.

    • Shpip

      That region just got soaked by Hurricane Eta, and with a powerful storm approaching, we could have another Hurricane Mitch scenario if already-saturated soils let loose in massive mudslides.

  11. prolefeed

    Playing Devil’s Advocate:

    I’ve seen a lot of allegations here that vote reporting software was used in key swing states to manufacture or delete votes by assigning Biden votes values greater than 1.00 votes, while assigning Trump votes values less than 1.00 votes – thus manufacturing predetermined vote percentage that flipped key states to Biden.

    Question: wouldn’t that mean a manual recount of paper ballots, such as is going on in Georgia now, would discover this seemingly obvious and easily proven fraud?

    How brazen would someone have to be to deploy this cheat, where they knew or should have known, that an almost certain recount would expose them to jail time?

    And, if the recount has results insufficient to flip Georgia to Trump, would that falsify the fractional vote theory? If not, what facts, if anything, would be sufficient to falsify the theory to your (dis)satisfaction?

    • Sean

      They have the media running cover for them, and AGs on “their” side.

    • blackjack

      It’s walking like a duck. Fractions or fantasy votes, it sounds like a duck.

    • leon

      Another question i have is that if it was so easy to find/get/manufacture etc ballots, why did they “oops” and forget to push the downballot?

      • blackjack

        That’s exactly what they will say when questioned about voter fraud.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        If I had to guess, the presidential race is the only one common on all ballots, so in theory you’d have to write up the code for multiple races in multiple states, counties, congressional districts, legislative districts, local races, judges, ballot initiatives, etc.

        This is just one race all these voting districts have in common.

      • R C Dean

        why did they “oops” and forget to push the downballot

        A couple of reasons:

        For House elections, there’s no reason to cheat in the deep blue municipalities where you can manufacture enough votes to throw a state-wide race.

        For Senate elections:

        The Michigan and Minnesota Democrats won.
        Wisconsin didn’t have a Senate race.
        Both Georgia races are going to runoffs.

        In those states, at least, the Dems didn’t lose the statewide Senate races. Hard to say how that undermines claims that the Dems wouldn’t have lost downballot if they were cheating so hard.

      • robc

        And if shenanigans really exist in GA, we may find the R got 50% in the regular race and doesn’t need the run-off. The special election never had a chance for anyone to get 50%.

      • leon

        Ok. So the Fraud was concentrated in areas that house races were already going to be won by Dems so they didn’t worry about that, and the Senate seats either went dem or were going to runoff. That is a good explanation, more than “They was dumb”.

        Question about the GA runnoff. I thought it was only one of the seats that was going to Runoff, is that not the case?

      • robc

        Nope, the 2nd one originall was about 51-45-4, so no runoff, but as more votes were “counted”, the GOP candidate has drifted down to “just a bit under 50”, triggering a recount.

      • robc

        49.7-48.0-2.3 right now.

        Still only 99% reporting.

      • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

        and in Michigan the Senate candidate James was winning by a similar margin to Trump at the point when the halt was called and then lost in similar fashion to Trump. I am skeptical that any of this gets overturned for three reasos. 1. I suspect the cheating was done on the ground by zealots filling out mail in ballots, 2. The courts are not overturning an election absent indisputable proof of fraud on a scale that clearly changed the results 3. I don’t trust the rep[orts of clear proof of fraud coming from Trump partisans any more than I trust the reports that there is no fraud from the TDS brigade. I think there was fraud, but I think ballot harvesting is the real secret weapon.

        There is a large population in the big cities that simply never turn out to vote because they are deeply apathetic and uninformed. This has been a truism my whole life, usually expressed as ‘rain favors Republicans’ or ‘turnout favors Democrats’. With mail in ballots and the strong ‘activist’ movements the Democrats have on the ground in urban centers it is relatively easy for perky college progs to go door to door helping ‘voters’ cast their ballots, and how do you fight that? Republican voters already vote, so you can’t just do the same thing in Red strongholds.

      • Ownbestenemy

        “I suspect the cheating was done on the ground by zealots filling out mail in ballots” Deep rabbit hole lined with tin-foil all the way down and a Faraday hatch time:

        How long do you think it would take to sort say 6000 ballots at a time as you receive them and then get at minimum, voter registration rolls with party affiliation and then just manufacture on the spot and slide them in the machine?

        Assuming a republican voter is voting for Trump and a democratic/no party/independent voter is voting for Biden – you just fill out president and scan it on through, replacing your filled out ballot as the counted and disposing of the mailed in ballot.

        Need to come up for air and a signal to send this…Not that I believe that, but was fun going through the exercise.

      • Fatty Bolger

        With mail in ballots and the strong ‘activist’ movements the Democrats have on the ground in urban centers it is relatively easy for perky college progs to go door to door helping ‘voters’ cast their ballots

        When I was looking up PA data, the discrepancy in ballot return ratios certainly caught my eye:

        Party Returned Ballots Freq. Distribution Requested Ballots Return Rate
        Democrats 1,694,719 64.8 1,945,499 87.1
        Republicans 620,282 23.7 787,752 78.7
        Minor 19,873 0.8 25,496 77.9
        No Party Affiliation 280,171 10.7 337,321 83.1

        Age Returned Ballots Freq. Distribution Requested Ballots Return Rate
        18 to 24 202,508 7.7 261,640 77.4
        25 to 34 329,274 12.6 410,166 80.3
        35 to 44 312,939 12.0 379,936 82.4
        45 and 55 315,669 12.1 379,439 83.2
        56 and 65 488,714 18.7 570,090 85.7
        66 and up 965,845 36.9 1,094,296 88.3

      • blackjack

        The old folks are VERY concerned about their futures.

      • Fatty Bolger

        Note also the breakdown of actual mail in ballot votes. Trump’s totals don’t even match total Republican ballots returned, while Bidens is about equal to all Democrats plus all Independents.

        BIDEN, JOSEPH ROBINETTE JR (DEM) 49.93%
        Votes: 3,425,190
        Election Day : 1407649
        Mail : 1982054
        Provisional : 35240

        TRUMP, DONALD J. (REP) 48.92%
        Votes: 3,356,286
        Election Day : 2728947
        Mail : 592314
        Provisional : 34438

        JORGENSEN, JO (LIB) 1.15%
        Votes: 78,831
        Election Day : 53270
        Mail : 24638
        Provisional : 909

    • R C Dean

      Perhaps shenanigans were played with the machines themselves only where there were insufficient pre-manufactured ballots to throw the election to Biden? For precisely the reason you state: a manual recount will overcome machine shenanigans, but will be blind to manufactured ballots that are facially valid. And that would include any mail-in ballots where the envelope(s) have been discarded. As I have heard (caveat: everyone lies) that those envelopes have been discarded in multiple locations. Without the envelopes, the courts will be in the uncomfortable position of throwing out every mail-in ballot, as none of them can be fully validated, or allowing every facially valid mail-in ballot, thus cementing the fraud coming from dumping pre-manufactured ballots into the big pile of mail-in ballots.

      Guess which one I think the courts will do.

      • leon

        They could split the baby and grant the votes and order the immidiate and unappealabe execution of every single official in state and federal government.

      • prolefeed

        I’m thinking SCOTUS judges, aka federal officials, might be hesitant to order their own executions.

    • The Other Kevin

      High gain, low risk. Everyone here knows that sort of thing doesn’t happen on accident, someone had to program it that way. But most people will be satisfied with it being a “computer glitch” and nobody’s fault. Either way, how could you prove that one person was responsible?

    • grrizzly

      Yes, that was my first question. If there are paper ballots and you can manually recount them then we can get the definitive answer.

      • Ownbestenemy

        With the assumption that every ballot is a valid ballot of course.

      • grrizzly

        If paper ballots were manufactured anyway then there was no need to resort to the voting machine fraud.

      • robc

        Also, and this is just hypothetical, if you cheat 3 different ways, even if one way is caught, it might be less than the marginal of victory and so “isnt really fraud”.

      • R C Dean

        One scenario: they panicked when they saw the size of Trump’s election day vote was bigger than they had planned for. They had pre-manufactured ballots in hand, but not an infinite supply, and maybe not enough. Or maybe enough, but it would require so many to be dumped that it would be implausible, so they deleted Trump votes to make it the vote dump less obvious. The pause in counting certainly sounds like panic, to me. They had to do more, maybe much more, than they were really prepared to do, so they had to stop counting to recalibrate and line up their response.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I had “3 Clue Endings” written out to this and I hit refresh instead. Oh well, robc and RC captured two of them.

    • Ownbestenemy

      I think the focus is the mail-in ballots and the mechanisms that states rammed through their legislature (except California, the Governor did that on his own) using special sessions under the cover of COVID.

      At least, I know that is one of the Nevada issues, among other things.

    • Drake

      It would if they were doing a for-real manual hand-recount. It sounds like they aren’t.

      • Drake

        They’ve promised to do one but the “results unchanged so far” news reports are not based on hand-counts.

    • Count Potato

      They can also generate and throw out paper ballots. Why do you think PA democrats would appeal a decision to allow observers?

    • Count Potato

      Another reason is by making the margin of victory larger, it doesn’t trigger an automatic recount.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      How brazen would someone have to be to deploy this cheat, where they knew or should have known, that an almost certain recount would expose them to jail time?

      Probably about as brazen as one would need to be to blame Lybians overrunning a US consulate on a YouTube video, or insisting there are chemical weapons in Iraq. Its not like the average voter reads above a 4th grade level.

      • leon

        You just made me very sad

      • mexican sharpshooter

        I was going for cynical, and should’ve considered you were already there.

        You have my apologies.

      • leon

        Never apologize.

        Nah it was sad in a silly cynical way.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Jail time?

        You make me laugh!

        A source familiar with Durham’s ongoing investigation of the bogus Russian collusion operation tells @FDRLST: “Durham isn’t doing anything. Dropping his investigations. He’s worried about blowback from Biden. What an absolute disgrace.”

      • Threedoor

        I’ve did find over 5000 gas shells. They were showing up as roadside bombs when I was there in 05-06.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I used to live down the street from a weapons inspector. That was an interesting guy to listen to. “Iraq may not have had WMDs when we invaded, but they sure did 6 months earlier. I’m betting they’re all sitting in Syria somewhere.”

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      What I’ve seen is a collection of screenshots of major news networks showing the sudden change in ballot totals. The timestamps have been matched up with data pulled directly from the same source that supplied the media with vote totals. Data scientists constructed a convincing explanation that showed the only way those vote totals were possible were for Trump votes to be removed and to be reassigned to Biden based on a weighting algorithm.

      A Glib downloaded the data and ran the algorithm and confirmed it matched up. That leaves me with :

      A) Every media screenshot with vote changing has been a photo-shopped fabrication, the official data source hacked and replaced with false data, and an elaborate algorithm created that matches up with the false data.

      B) This is all accurate and is proof of widespread election fraud.

      C) This is all accurate but is not proof of widespread election fraud. Devil’s advocate question in return: For what non-election fraud reasons would these vote totals suddenly change with votes being removed from Trump and with fractal votes being registered?

      If Trump’s legal provides proof that A is not the case, I don’t see how this couldn’t be a stolen election. As Crowder said, they only have one shot at this and need to make their case air-tight when the cards are laid down. If those cards don’t provide solid evidence, then I guess maybe 4Chan has been at work.

      • Urthona

        This all seems way too good to be true for the Republican Party. I think there were some shenanigans, but this should be easily provable.

      • Drake

        Some of those shots showed the gross number of Trump votes going down after 10pm. It’s right there in the raw data and I’m really sure that’s not how you count votes.

        I just went back to look at the video I linked this morning, and of course Youtube spiked it. I’ll have to look on Bitchute.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      I think it’s unlikely that the code would do something like that. An audit of the code should catch it, as should a manual recount unless there is no paper trail.

      To me the more likely scenario is that Trump outperformed the estimates, so paper ballots had to be manufactured and fast so the manufactured ballots only dealt with the Presidential election and ignored down ballot candidates.

      • juris imprudent

        I’m going to note that all of the “statistical evidence” of voting irregularity is very similar to the statistical evidence of systemic racism.

      • Drake

        How can you explain the decrease in Trump votes in several states on election night? That isn’t how election statistics work.

      • Urthona

        That probably didn’t happen either.

        I think the extent of it is poll workers putting their thumb on the scales by not really curing or validating ballots properly, which would benefit urban democrats enormously.. in some cases by a significant number going from 10% expected rejection to basically 0 rejection. It’s an extraordinarily easy way to influence the outcome that — thanks to changing rules in blue states — has never been easier. No direct fraud is needed and no one would ever be able to prove anything.

    • zwak

      I think that the problem really came down to “they believed their own bullshit.” In other words, they thought Biden was a slam dunk due to Trump hatred. And, in the middle of the counting, it became obvious that the hate wasn’t enough. That people actually liked Trump and were voting for him in record numbers. So, a quick fix was put in, but put in clumsily and would be picked up if anyone actually looked into things. But that wouldn’t matter if Trump conceded, like every other loser. But he didn’t, and in fact, he kept on talking and not shutting up about it.

      And this is why they are pushing for not conceding, acting like a recount in close or suspect states was out of the pale, something no one would do (never once admitting that it is what the Abrams did, in Georgia no less.) They are trying to get the hardcore Trump supporters to look foolish, and the Republican establishment to abandon him.

      /wearing on tin-foil superman cape. Winks while brushing the side of the nose.

  12. Rebel Scum

    David Frum is a mendacious cunte.

    “I noticed something that happened over the weekend,” Domenech said on “Fox and Friends,” “Which is that for George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum, now at The Atlantic, tweeted out something comparing the marchers of these peaceful law-abiding Americans in the cities, in Washington D.C. supporting President Trump, to Nazis.”

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Frum is a despicable shit, a filthy little man that more closely resembles a Nazi himself than most in modern politics.

    • Chipwooder

      He was repulsive as a Republican, when he insinuated anyone not on board with war in Iraq was a traitor, and he’s just as repellent now that he’s a Democrat.

      Can’t we force Canada to take his disgusting ass back?

      • But Enough About My Wild Culinary Fantasies

        He was okay back when he wrote for the National Post (pre-millenium).

        We don’t want him back now. He’s your problem, compadres!

  13. leon

    A Public Agenda poll found that 72% of Americans supported raising the minimum wage in September

    Ahh, and we’re gonna just ignore that polling is in an absolute state of bullshittery?

    • Gustave Lytton

      How many of them would be in favor of unicorns, pink elephants, and unlimited ice cream rations? Stated preferences are bullshit.

    • Ownbestenemy

      I am sure close to 100% of minimum wage earners are a firm yes.

      I am sure a high percentage of way above minimum wage earners are a sure?

      And the ones making $1-2 above the proposed minimum wage that may have worked for that salary are like WTF? Will I get a bump to?

      • leon

        It wasn’t till i had graduated college that i earned a wage of 15/hr. I now have worked and established myself to earn more than that. I also worked throughout college, along with the wife, so that we didn’t have debt. Yes i had scholarships that helped, but i’m not going to apologize for that, that’s what you do to get through school. I’ve saved a great deal so that i could afford within my means a house out of town. I’m not saying this to complain or to brag, but to put it this way. I was raised to do things the “right way”, save up, don’t get into more debt than you can handle, etc.

        Biden’s admin could easily be one of the biggest Fuck You’s to me that i’ve ever had.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I remember snagging a job with IBM as a repairman while going to college. It paid $10.20/hr and I would have stabbed people for that amount of money back then.

        Then I got a job in ’95 for $31K and I was beside myself with joy. I think I bought my first monocle then (and put a few orphans on layaway) because I felt so rich.

        Now anybody with job will be making that much money.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        My first engineering job with an MSEE in hand was for $34k in 94.

        I doubt I could hire my fresh out of school self for less than $90k now.

    • prolefeed

      72% might not be far off the mark if you include in the poll people too young to vote, and too youthfully ignorant to understand how this bright shiny idea might go terribly wrong.

      • leon

        Ahh yes.. I forgot. It is imperitive that we look to our youth for public policy.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        You would have better result if you asked should we have the same minimum wage as Sweden.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      And the immediate leftist response is that it is a gift to Putin.

      What a hot fucking mess the left has turned into.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Maybe now the Biden administration will finally deal with that noted GRU agent Синди Шихан.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        Code Pink? Never heard of them.

      • Gustave Lytton

        The two founders are such nice people. Former SDS activist & Cuban commie and an IRA supporter

    • blackjack

      Skynet Introduces New Line Of Voting Machines

      I made that joke in the last post.

  14. Gustave Lytton

    No cow butting for OT? Next Switzy will lay off the gaze narrowing punnishment.

    • But Enough About My Wild Culinary Fantasies

      Extremely. Can’t imagine how that poor thing walks.

      • Suthenboy

        knee replacements by 50

    • The Gunslinger

      Nope. VERY ample assets.

  15. Caput Lupinum

    Hungary will veto the European Union’s 2021-27 budget and its COVID recovery scheme if access to funds is made conditional on governments’ adherence to the rule of law, a move which a senior EU official warned could create havoc within the bloc.

    Fogd be a szád, te kommunista disznó. “Rule of law” has a very different definition in the Eurocrat dictionary than it does any where else.

    • leon

      “made conditional on goverments adherance to Progressive ideology

      Sounds more correct.

    • R C Dean

      The EU has a 7 year budget?

      Hungary will veto unless the requirement that governments abide by their own laws is removed?

      Euro politics is weird, yo.

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      “Rule of Law” translates to “The whims of unaccountable bureaucrats” in Belgian French.

      • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

        Yeah, hungary and Poland are refusing to abide by the rule of law where the courts overrule the national legislature and the EU dictates every facet of life. They are vassals refusing to accept their vassalage, and the emperor is displeased.

    • kbolino

      Hungary is bad because Orban. Orban is bad because Trump. Therefore, anything Hungary says is bad.

      • grrizzly

        Well, Orban was bad long before Trump. I recall driving to NYC to vote against Orban in something like 2006.

      • kbolino

        Well, true, but nobody really cared until Trump. For that matter, nobody seemed to care about Lukashenko until Trump, either.

        Though… you have Hungarian citizenship? I realize Americans think all Eastern Europeans are the same (except for Romanians, who are vampires), but I thought you were Russian not Hungarian.

      • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

        Russians choosing Hungarian leaders has a lot of precedent.

      • Caput Lupinum

        Hungary is in central, not eastern Europe, and they will fight anyone that says otherwise.

      • kbolino

        Well, it’s on the border at least. Czechia and Austria are the countries I think of as “central” Europe, with their neighbors (sans Italy) being one way or the other.

      • Caput Lupinum

        It could go either way, and it really doesn’t matter much, I just know that many Hungarians are very adamant about not being part of Eastern Europe. Calling a Hungarian eastern European would be like calling a person from Kentucky a Midwesterner.

      • kbolino

        calling a person from Kentucky a Midwesterner

        Wait, they’re not? /Marylander

      • The Hyperbole

        Kentuckians are Hillbillies.

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        The East begins at Landstrasse.

        /random Viennese

      • grrizzly

        No, my partner, who is Hungarian, voted in the consulate. I should have said that I drove an anti-Orban voter to the polls. All his family is very anti-Orban.

      • kbolino

        Well, that does make more sense. I don’t really know much Orban except by inverse image of whatever the U.S. media says.

      • Caput Lupinum

        Grrizzly is correct, Orban is a grade ‘A’ asshole, and has been for years. The issue is the EU is a collection of grade ‘A’ assholes numbering in the thousands, and given a choice between the two I’ll stick with Orban. At least he occasionally does the right thing, even if it is for the wrong reasons and in the least efficient way.

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        I remember several months ago that the good thinkers were upset that Hungary passed a Stage of Emergency law with no expiration date to deal with Covid and Orban was going to become a dictator for life. In the meantime, the Parliament has rescinded that law, and the governors in the US are going hog wild.

    • Suthenboy

      That’s what I was thinking….’rule of law’ coming out of the mouth of a EU official….well, I already know what that means without having to ask.

      Solid NO.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      Speak English dammit. Nem tudom Magyaru.

  16. Kwihn T. Senshel

    @zwak (response from previous thread re: WA new restrictions)

    I’m on the west side of the Cascades. Grew up in King County, which is appropriately named, as it gets to determine the course of the entire state. In fact, if you take that one county out, Culp would have won the election (for those that don’t know, the challenger to Inslee was the Republic, WA sheriff that last year made headlines when he refused to enforce the unconstitutional new gun laws).

    Extended family is scrambling to figure things out, because while most of us don’t have an ethical issue with civil disobedience, there’s the practical aspect of being reported by some Karen, etc. And while I’m blessed to have an extended family that truly gets along, it makes these kind of decisions that much harder (do we disobey? If so, by how much? who gets to visit whom?).

    Anyway, this place helps to keep me sane. Thanks for commiserating.

    • Pope Jimbo

      We will be attending an outlaw T-giving meal this year. We won’t be having it at my aunt’s house like we usually do. My aunt and uncle both would be considered to be at a higher risk than most because of age and ill health. They politely declined to host this year and we all understood.

      The reason this year will be an outlaw event is because my kids are at college so that technically pushes us beyond the scientifically approved number of households. And my kids who are in college are probably the most likely to be Carona Cassies, spreading the Rona inadvertently.

      The current setup is only about 10 people. Back in the day my maternal gramma would put on the dinner and there would be at least 40-50 people (10 kids in Mom’s family and a ton of cousins too). I can only imagine how poorly our gov’s demands to restrict T-giving would have been received by Gramma.

      • But Enough About My Wild Culinary Fantasies

        Yeah, we’ve got an outlaw Christmas queued up and ready to go. Filthy, COVID-covered gift exchange and everything!

        I can hardly wait.

    • zwak

      I was actually born on the east side, in the one liberal spot out there, Pullman. But after many years wandering around, I am down here, an hour south of Portlandia. So, I commiserate with you on the fucked state of our states. One-party rule and all of that. I used to do a lot of business in Seattle, from downtown to the east side, and even then you can see a real difference. I was talking to a client of mine on Mercer Island, and she was saying that the whole identity of that little island was changing, and moving to a kind of throw-away society. People/kids would work for one tech company and change jobs on a whim, not invest in the community at all, not spend any money, and so on. Kinda sad, really, But then I would go do some work in Skagit or Whatcom, and outside Bellingham, it is deeply conservative. But, Bellingham is what pays the bills. Not very different than Eugene or Corvallis down here.

      Or the college town I grew up in. Nor Pullman, just another left coast college town.

    • Homple

      That’s some white fragility right there, and a black life that matters.

    • Pope Jimbo

      I hate those videos. One coward sucker punches some unsuspecting person and no one steps in and floors the coward. And other cowards steal the victims stuff. How low can you go?

      • Kwihn T. Senshel

        Not only is there no peak derp, there is no lower limit to cowardice.

    • blackjack

      This video is why I avoid all of these protests. The long version has him stomping up and calling out all of these assholes. One of them sucker punches him and boom! he’s out. That’s exactly how I envision my interaction with these lowlifes.

    • Agent Cooper

      The guy in the jacket did start some shit before this punch was thrown, TO BE FAIR.

  17. leon

    @RC Dean, You got me interested in looking at Real Estate in Uruguay. I’m more of a country man myself found this ranch that looks fun:

    Plus the Real Estate agency is Engle & Volkers. Why wouldn’t you trust Germans from South America?

    • R C Dean

      Can’t see it:

      This site can’t be reached

      %20https’s server IP address could not be found.

      Not interested in trying to maintain a ranch in my dotage.

      We have an Engel & Volkers office in Tucson. I saw online that they have an operation in Uruguay. Could be interesting to drop in.

    • LJW

      “Plus the Real Estate agency is Engle & Volkers. Why wouldn’t you trust Germans from South America?”

      Reminds me of Blonde hair blued eyed Argentinian girl I met in college.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I knew an elegant blonde Uruguayan lady.

  18. Count Potato

    “TikTok star Nathan ‘Doggface’ Apodaca pays $320K in ALL CASH for new home in Idaho Falls… after previously living out of his RV

    The 37-year-old TikTok star, who also goes by the name Doggface, recently purchased a house in his hometown in Idaho Falls, Idaho, according to TMZ.

    The house contains five bedrooms and three bathrooms; Apodaca reportedly paid $320,000 in cash and will receive the keys to his new place some time next week.

    The entertainer was notable for previously living out of an RV with no running water parked outside of his brother’s home, where he would go to use the bathroom and shower.

    In late September, Doggface’s car broke down on the way to his job at a potato factory and the content creator decided to use his longboard to get to work instead, filming himself lip-syncing to Fleetwood Mac’s 1977 song Dreams and drinking Ocean Spray cranberry juice.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8954377/TikTok-star-Nathan-Doggface-Apodaca-purchases-new-home-Idaho-Falls-living-RV.html

    Damn, boomers love some Fleetwood Mac.

    *guzzles prune juice on unicycle while listening to the Eagles*

    • R C Dean

      Ocean Spray gave him a sweet truck, too.

    • Agent Cooper

      I hate the Eagles man.

      • Count Potato

        Listen, you want to get in on that sweet boomer money or not?

      • blackjack

        Say wha??!?!? Skip to about .50

      • blackjack

        Wait, This is what I had in mind.

    • blackjack

      Wait, a POTATO FACTORY?

      • Agent Cooper

        Forget it Jake, it’s Idaho.

    • leon

      If Eggs weren’t healthy for you, why would chickens lay them?

    • R C Dean

      That’s why I have two eggs for breakfast.

      Duh.

      • Kwihn T. Senshel

        Welp, now you’re 120% likely to get the diabeetus.

      • R C Dean

        It says “eating just one egg” increases your risk of diabetes. I don’t eat just one, I eat two. Therefore, my risk of diabetes is not increased.

        SCIENCE!

      • zwak

        Oh hell, I have three every morning, so I am doing a 180% away from Diabeatus.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Ah back to the egg are bad cycle.

      Buried in the article “The study specifically focused on people in China, which has undergone a transition away from a traditional diet comprising grains and vegetables, to a more processed diet that includes greater amounts of meat, snacks and eggs, according to Dr Li.”

      It was the eggs…

      • Chipwooder

        Eggs are processed?

      • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

        Yes, except in Rocky, eggs are processed by application of heat.

      • kbolino

        “a traditional diet comprising grains and vegetables”

        I don’t think crushing, communism-induced poverty is in any way “traditional”.

    • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

      You probably don’t wear a mask when home alone, and do use fossil fuels! Science denialist!

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Yep bullshit, get fucked antieggers, you bunch of dicks.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      IFLS

    • blackjack

      Something, something, brain on drugs…

    • mrfamous

      We’re just in hell when it comes to science. I’d love to point the finger at Chinese researchers but we’re no better in the US or UK. Folks figured out a long time ago how to game the system and get their weak science in front of the media, particularly when it’s something the media want to hear.

      I don’t see a solution

      • rhywun

        The first thing we do, let’s kill all the scientists.

    • Kwihn T. Senshel

      more people may die

      Is that a threat or a promise, Joe?

    • leon

      One of Remmy’s best.

      I don’t see how security clearances for bidens team would stop people from dying… Indeed i think more people would die…

      • Count Potato

        Yes, but those are just brown people. No one care about them unless a Republican in in office.

    • blackjack

      People will get taxed!

    • rhywun

      Transition to what? *shudder*

  19. Aloysious

    Danish wood oil is the bomb. I should have used this stuff years ago.

    • Pope Jimbo

      Ummm…?

      Are you advocating for using greasy pastries to masturbate? Just asking. Personally, I’d much rather talk about this more than voter fraud or other election stuff.

      • blackjack

        Just, lets not start talking about people’s nuts hanging over the edge of the commode, please!

      • Pope Jimbo

        Are the nuts splayed out over the top of the toilet seat?

        Or are the nuts sandwiched between the toilet seat and the rim of the bowl?

        Asking for a friend who says only one of those scenarios would be of interest to him.

      • blackjack

        I got PTSD last time, don’t make me relive it.

    • leon

      Interesting that the Army US Marshalls would be seizing a CIA server. I imagine that is one of the things we’ll never know about until 70 years from now.

    • Kwihn T. Senshel

      Saw that this morning and thought “This is why you don’t have heroes – they only let you down.”

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Just expect the worst of everything and everyone and you’ll never be disappointed.

      • But Enough About My Wild Culinary Fantasies

        It’s worked for me (more or less) so far.

    • blackjack

      Eight is enough, I saw it on TV.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Well when all the world’s media/press is basically shitting on you, eventually the people start believing it. Maybe they are doing it for a good reason now, who knows.

    • grrizzly

      Lukashenko’s Belarus remains the last bastion of freedom and sanity in the world.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Why is this a surprise? Sweden was hardly a do nothing country from the start, despite the fantasies of some. It just wasn’t full on authoritarian like most European countries and was more like the less iron fisted states here.

  20. Nephilium

    Let’s see if anything comes from this. If nothing else, it provides a decent list of businesses that I’m going to tend towards supporting going forward.

    • Pope Jimbo

      My new prediction is that the shot that sparks the next revolution will be fired by some restaurant owner who is about to lose everything shooting an inspector in the face when he gets a bullshit ticket for $10K for some Rona infraction.

  21. The Late P Brooks

    Thumbs were sucked

    Put simply, it’s another data point in a saga of national exhaustion and media overload — particularly in the can’t-get-away-from-it era of the coronavirus pandemic.

    “If we are burned out with the presidency, how do we go forward in terms of how we consume media?” wonders Apryl Alexander, an associate professor of psychology at the University of Denver who studies how people and communities meet challenges. “I have a text message from friends the minute I wake up about something (Trump) said. I think Biden and his camp are going to have to navigate this.”

    In many ways, it transcends Trump. The primacy of the presidency is so deeply embedded in American culture that it’s often hard to look away when the occupant is saying, “Look at me.”

    Though the U.S. government has three branches, the chief executive has come to embody the national psyche, the national mood, the national character. It’s hard to imbue a legislative body or a court with the personality of a nation. The president, though, is expected to channel all of that — and so, in a society weaned on heroes and outsized figures, commandeers the attention.

    “We don’t look at the office; we look at the person. And Donald Trump has been the ultimate personality,” says Anthony DiMaggio, a political scientist at Lehigh University who teaches media politics and propaganda. “It’s not the greatest way to have a nuanced understanding of our political system. But it’s easy.”

    And, of course, it never ever occurs to these people that perhaps the President and the government play a greater role in our daily life than necessary or proper.

    What we need is the *right* all knowing omnipotent Messiah; not that jerk Trump.

    • Suthenboy

      Never mind policy.

  22. Pope Jimbo

    Just another reason, I am so glad I have reset my professional life and no longer am involved in managing people. I wouldn’t last 15 minutes as a manager today.

    I absolutely hate everyone in this story. The shitty employee who got herself fired and then says it was racially motivated to the manager who grovels so that the mob doesn’t come for her.

    “It’s not just that we were treated directly differently from our coworkers. It was also that the issues that we have to face being black femmes just didn’t affect our coworkers, and [management] didn’t care that they affected us,” Johnson said.

    When an employee tested positive for COVID-19 in September, Johnson wrote in a work chat that it seemed unethical not to close. Shortly after, she was let go for “presenting an attitude of pessimism and creating a toxic work culture.”

    “I was the only one who got fired. Nobody else who responded got fired. Just me,” Johnson said.

    One of Glam Doll’s owners, Teresa Fox, says simply of the firing that she failed as a leader, and regrets it.

    “I overreacted and I should have been more thoughtful in my communication,” Fox said.

    “I am changing the way I manage, and it’s just like been an emotional awakening for me,” Fox said.

    Two other former employees — Nadirah McGill and Sariah Jackson — agree with Johnson that race is a component in Glam Doll’s workplace.

    “It was the most toxic work environment I’ve ever experienced,” McGill said.

    “It caused a lot of emotional distress for me and a lot of anger,” Jackson said.

    Fox says she apologizes to anyone who’s been hurt. She says the demands of running a business have distracted her from fostering the inclusive culture her employees need.

    Nothing $15/hr won’t fix I guess

    • R C Dean

      I think she has a choice to make:

      Run a business, or fostering an inclusive culture.

      Pick one.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Ugh, a horde of bitchy women. Nightmare work scenario right there.

      • Pope Jimbo

        They are all jealous of Sven, the waiter who can bring a dozen donuts and two cups of coffee out to a table in only one trip.

  23. The Gunslinger

    Found this little nugget in the Detroit Free Press comment section tonight:

    Recently we have been seeing more comments that are false or otherwise serve to misinform or disparage others. Please be polite and share either your opinion or only what you know to be true.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      share either your opinion or only what you know to be true.

      “I hereby shall refer to you as the Detroit Free Press”

      • The Gunslinger

        From my experience the comments there are much more anti lockdown. The anti Whitmer comments always get the most upvotes. And the lefties are always the ones to do the name calling.

    • The Gunslinger

      It seems that they are moderating pretty much every comment now and deciding what can be posted.

  24. Gustave Lytton

    https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/11/oregon-governor-orders-2-week-coronavirus-freeze-restricting-bars-and-restaurants-to-takeout-closing-some-businesses.html

    State modeling released Friday omitted projections about how many more Oregonians will become sick enough in the weeks ahead to require hospitalization or who may die.

    A staple of previous reports, the state used new software this week and calculated but then decided not to include information about those severe cases because it didn’t appear to “give us the right numbers,” Sidelinger told The Oregonian/OregonLive.

    Asked if the number of severe cases appeared too high or too low, he said he didn’t have details but would look into it.

    Sure.. “I’m obviously lying but what are you going to do about it?”

    • R C Dean

      State modeling

      I’m out.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Ouija boards were on sale last week.

        There have still yet to be any consequences for the weeks and months of wrong models. All is hand waved away because they were merely for capacity planning purposes and not predictive (despite be used as the basis for state actions).

        And Sidelinger is a pædiatrician by training and trade.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Not everyone can be as accurate as the Minnesoda Model 3.0

        Stefan Gildemeister, the state health economist who has acted as a liaison between the state and the U’s modeling team, said that while the number of deaths projected by the model is higher than reality, the direction is the same: up. Modelers will continue to tweak the model to try to make it better match reality, but, he said, the bones are solid.

        “We know the model varies around a certain number of deaths in the state, but that doesn’t distress us because what we’re really looking at is the disease kinetics over the course of a full year,” Gildemeister said.

        He urged people to look less at actual figures and more at the big picture — and to remember that the state is still observing the effects of disease spread that was suppressed under stay-at-home orders that are now expired.

        (Emphasis is mine)

        I’m stunned by how brave this guy was to predict that total deaths would continue to go up. Who says bureaucrats are afraid to stick their necks out?

      • The Gunslinger

        They keep referring to this as a disease. I am not a health care worker so please help me understand. Is a coronavirus actually classified as a disease?

      • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

        Yes? So is the flu, a cold, bubonic plague, small pox etc.

        Disease:a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that produces specific signs or symptoms or that affects a specific location and is not simply a direct result of physical injury.

        Not sure what you are getting at?

      • R C Dean

        *clears throat*

        Coronaviruses are viruses, not diseases. Someone who has a sufficiently virulent active infection with a coronavirus has a disease.

        Right now, everybody has some coronaviruses active in their system. They are quite common. They only occasionally reach a point where someone can be said to be sick with a coronavirus infection.

      • kbolino

        Nominally, this is the distinction between SARS-CoV-2 (the virus) and COVID-19 (the disease caused by the virus), a la HIV and AIDS.

      • R C Dean

        Yup. Couldn’t resist getting my pedant on.

      • Fourscore

        I punched my bucket list ticket today, Jimbo, I’m home free for this year but still a week to go and got another ticket. Got a little gift for Tundra, too.

      • Tundra

        Wooohooo!!!

  25. Shpip

    Mrs. Shpip just called to me from the other side of the house…

    Her: Do you ever get a shooting pain across your body, like someone’s got a voodoo doll of you and they’re stabbing it?
    Me: No.
    (Pause)
    Her: How about now?

    • Sean

      ?

    • Kwihn T. Senshel

      I needed that {SensibleChuckle} today, thanks.

  26. Pope Jimbo

    Finally our MInnesoda nightmare is over. Biden is going to turn the refugee spigot back on (because he is totes not a racist monster like Trump).

    “Biden will turn Minnesota into a refugee camp,” Trump said at a rally in Duluth in October. Of Minnesota’s refugee population, Trump said they come “from the most dangerous places in the world including Yemen, Syria, and your favorite country, Somalia.” The crowd booed.

    Beyond the hate speech, Trump governed with the same xenophobic agenda. His administration issued more than 400 executive decisions in the last four years targeting immigration to the United States.

    One of Trump’s executive orders from 2019 granted counties the power to refuse refugee arrivals. In Minnesota, Beltrami County became the first county in the state and the nation to ban refugees from resettling.

    Many of these executive actions damaged the refugee resettlement system in the United States. For his final trick, in October, Trump set the limit of refugees allowed entry to 15,000—a record low in recent American history.

    Within his first 100 days in office, Biden has pledged to propose more than a dozen initiatives addressing immigration with the goal of reversing some of the damage done by the Trump administration. Biden announced these plans on his website November 9.

    One proposal is to raise the refugee admissions cap to 125,000 next year. Before Trump took office, the cap stood at 110,000.

    I am a fairly open borders guy. What irritates me about these stories is how they portray refugees as entitled to a spot here in Minnesoda with a ton of govt subsidies. If you dare to suggest that maybe we might want to slow the rate of these refugees coming here, or say that it might be better to give green cards to immigrants from non-shithole countries you are accused of being a raving racist.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Have any of these refugees been deported when the conditions that caused them to flee no longer exist? This idea that refugee status entitles you to permanent residency is false.

      • Suthenboy

        Refugees like Omar? Refugees, migrants, whatever….my ass. They are importing Dem votes because they can’t get enough pre-dead to vote for them.
        I dont think I have heard a Dem argue in good faith since…..uh….Tip O’Neal?

      • Pope Jimbo

        It should be false. But in reality it isn’t.

        There were a few sob stories in the local press about the Bad Orange Man wanting to kick out 200K refugees from El Salvador.

        The 200K refugees came here in 2001 because of a devastating earthquake in El Salvador. Still can’t go back safely according to their advocates here.

        This is why the refugee program pisses me off. Because it is a dishonest way to bring immigrants into the country. The plebes are told that it is only temporary and is for humanitarian reasons. Then they never ever get sent back.

    • Viking1865

      Immigration is, like trade, one of those issues where I see the current situation as impossible for there to be an actually libertarian result in the current political environment. I don’t find taxpayer subsidized importation of penniless people any more or less libertarian than immigration controls.

    • Ayn Random Variation

      How does this jibe with locking us in our homes and preventing people from going to work?

    • Drake

      Millions of Third World peasants willing collecting welfare or willing to work for next to nothing. That should really help the economy and the American working class.

    • creech

      Biden wants only 125,000 refugees per year? One of the woke immigration activists at church says the U.S. can comfortably admit 1% of the population each year – or more than 3 million people. 125,000 will just be a small down payment on what the progs end up demanding.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I don’t suppose it crossed her mind to go where they live and try to solve the problem there.

      • Urthona

        I was reading Biden is actually reluctant to loosen that much of Trump’s immigration policy because it turned out to be way more popular than Democrats imagined.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Immigration restrictions used to compose a significant portion of Bernie’s platform.

        Hell, Democrats used to campaign for the blue collar vote and immigration was a hot topic for them.

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        According to the Book of Knowledge (Wikipedia) we were letting in about 70K per year during the Obama years, though the quota was higher. I guess Biden is going big.

    • juris imprudent

      Fuck refugees. I don’t want people here that didn’t choose to come before their own country went to hell. I want the people with the foresight to leave BEFORE that happens. Those are the future Americans.

    • blackjack

      If you can’t do the time, don’t steal Greta’s childhood.

    • leon

      In 2019, the Supreme Court of the Netherlands became the first highest-level domestic court to establish a government’s legal duty to prevent climate change in line with its human rights obligations. It was a historic ruling.

      Uh huh… Historic like the Soviet Purges.

      • blackjack

        She should be in school! SHAME ON YOU!

  27. Count Potato

    All of watched the last couple of days is football and Alex Jones. So I think I’ll skip MNF. The announcers are awful.

    Anyone have any movie suggestions?

    How about a film noir from the 40’s – 50’s? I’ve recently watched Double Indemnity and Out of the Past.

    • Ayn Random Variation

      Tubi has the Cheap Detective. A 70s movie with peter Falk that satirized 40s Detective movies

    • Ted S.

      Leave Her to Heaven
      Niagara
      The Narrow Margin
      The Big Heat

      • Count Potato

        Thanks, Ted.

        (I hope I punctuated that correctly.)

      • Ted S.

        For earlier noir, there’s several movies with tragic Laird Cregar at Fox: I Wake Up Screaming, The Lodger, or Hangover Square.

    • The Hyperbole

      The Killing is on Prime, Touch of Evil is a good one but I don’t know that it’s streaming anywhere.

      • Count Potato

        OK, thanks.

      • The Hyperbole

        Cool, thanks for the link.

    • Pope Jimbo

      The announcers are awful?

      Uffda. The Vikes and the Bears are awful.

      Unfortunately the stupid Vikes will probably win somehow instead of tanking and trying to get that kid from Clemson in the draft.

      • Ted S.

        You think the Jets are winning three games?

      • Ayn Random Variation

        Yeah, Lawrence belongs to the Jets unless they trade the pick for a big haul of picks.

      • juris imprudent

        First pick should go to the NFC East – is there any more pathetic collection of teams you can name?

    • R C Dean

      I saw this morning that the Cowboys managed to not lose for the first time in several weeks.

      Of course, that’s probably because they had a bye week. Probably.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Wtf is this doing here?

      • Gustave Lytton

        Ahh, the replied threw me.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Watched Nightfall, The Desperate Hours (avoid the remake), and The Killers recently. All enjoyable.

        Also Dark Passage, Dead Reckoning, and The Big Sleep if you don’t mind Bogey.

      • Ted S.

        Unfortunately, two of those have Lauren Bacall.

      • Count Potato

        What’s wrong with Lauren Bacall?

      • Ted S.

        She’s not my favorite actress. I also never got why the Bogart/Bacall romance was supposed to be so much more romantic than all the other Hollywood couples.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Nothing. I went to HS with a girl who resembled her and early Bacall movies remind me of that.

    • creech

      If you put Clemson or Notre Dame in the NFL East, they’d probably be the division leaders.

    • The Hyperbole

      Also, outside of your time frame but if you’ve never seen it The Friends of Eddie Coyle is a great “neo-noir”

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Mildred Pierce (caution: stars Joan Crawford who didn’t understand the role; Stanwyck would have been much better)

  28. Evan from Evansville

    I have been seeing lots of doctors and therapists and all sorts of shit. I’ve ‘graduated’ from most of my therapy, but I have these weird visual hallucinations, which aren’t really hallucinations. Ghost perceptions, or something. They only show up in my periphery–I’ll see something out of the corner and occasionally I’ll think it’s someone/something else. Like a towel over a tall chair sometimes becomes a figure in the bathroom with me. Lasts about a tenth of a second at most. My brain knows they aren’t real and I just move on. See also: I’ll see a leave on the trail and my mind may sometimes think that it’s a mouse and the stem is the tail. Just confusing images. My eyes figure it out in a sec or two.

    Today I went to a neuro ophthalmologist. And…it was mostly boring…except for my doctor. She was probably even younger than me. But at least close enough to me in ballpark age mode. Oh. My. I couldn’t imagine a more lovely lady, designed for what my brain is immediately attracted to. Midway through she had to leave to check a scan. I used that time to download an audio recorder on my new phone and recorded the rest of our time. With her typing and talking.

    And she was holding my eyes open! And doing many touchy things! *Flutter!* Oh, the love I could fall in with her. She did have on a wedding ring. I notice things like that. Sigh. I can only say one good thing about masks, and that has a caveat. It makes people look at each other right in the eyes when speaking. That isn’t always good, but with eyes like hers…I was glad I got to sink into them for as long as I could.

    Carry on! I…no joke will be in my bunk.

    • R C Dean

      It makes people look at each other right in the eyes when speaking.

      I’ve noticed that.

    • But Enough About My Wild Culinary Fantasies

      Pics or it didn’t happen.  ;-)

      • Ted S.

        You want pics of Evan in his bunk?

      • Sean

        We don’t judge around here.

        Well…maybe a little.

      • Evan from Evansville

        Yes [she does] most people do. I go strong with my young, cute-ish personality, combined with my earned gritty explorer reputation. I’m going for Indiana Jones heroine-wants-to-play-rought style of lady.

        It seems to work. Except that little girl who stabbed me in the stomach with a pencil. Damn three-year-old! Well. She was laughing. Maybe the Charming Teacher mode took over and she just still thought I was amazing. Maybe I shoulda gotten her OMWC’s number…

    • blackjack

      More for Agent Cooper but might apply here too.

    • The Hyperbole

      I do that seeing things in my periphery or thinking a leaf is a mouse momentarily and I’ve (as far as I know) never had my skull caved in. IANAD but that sounds perfectly normal to me.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Yeah, me too, it seems…well normal’s not the word…not abnormal maybe.

      • The Hyperbole

        I know there an explanation for how our brain likes to find faces in objects and patterns and such (I’d look up the word but lazy), I assume it’s something like that.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        That’s just the leprechauns.

      • Evan from Evansville

        Me as well. I’ve only had ONE legit visual hallucination (I have legit audio ones every day–meh. I’ve gotten used to those and know how to figure out if they’re real or not—most of the time). I was still in Thailand and smoking on the balcony. Second floor. A dude came out of the main building and lit a smoke as well. But we was green. Like the John Belushi ghost in Ghostbusters green. I think wearing a hat. He had his smoke and then went back inside. I asked Lady, who was next to me, if a person had come out. She told me that no one had. HUH!

        I think with everything like that, and I’ve said this to multiple docs/therapists, is that I’m just so primed to look for stuff because of my past that I see more of it. You see more of what you’re looking for. I’m not shocked when my brain plays a little sec-long trick on me.

        A really strange thing is that I’ve come to enjoy them, for the most part. There was a time when they were WAY too powerful and they made life impossible to live through in a “normal” way. Not bad enough that I couldn’t find a way to go to work and teach, but bad enough that it ended up…uh…let’s just say not working. I think the little sound things that happen now kinda add a soundtrack to life and make it that much more interesting/exciting. This is different from back in the day when I was tied to a hospital bed and would hear loud noises and banging. My brain, depending on the time, was absolutely convinced that they were Nazis, Soviets, or even North Koreans (was in Thailand for most of these) going to break in my room, rape Lady and do other terrible things.

        Those were fucking terrifying. Those things *were* happening in my brain. But that time has gone. Now I just find playful pleasantry in them whenever they happen. Sometimes they take me on mystery exploring missions, where my fun task is to find out “where” in my mind the hallucination is coming from (the washer/dryer, oven, etc). Look on the bright side!

  29. Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

    Have fun Toobin

    • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

      supposed to be areply to Evan

  30. Count Potato

    “I thought this was supposed to be a conspiracy theory. But here it is, straight from Trudeau’s mouth. The pandemic is the excuse for a “Great Reset” of the world, led by the UN.”

    https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1328020783596269568

    • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

      Well, Canuck Glibs? You didn’t rebel with us in 1776, isn’t it about time?

      • But Enough About My Wild Culinary Fantasies

        Wait, so Canada’s gonna whole-heartedly embrace capitalism? Well, fan my ass with a blowtorch.

        In all seriousness, it’s Justin True-dope. He’ll figure out a way to fuck it up.

        In fact, just by actually stating that we’re all going to move in that direction, he probably already has.

  31. Ayn Random Variation

    Funny how in the last 2 weeks I keep hearing about the rona vaccine on the news. 60 minutes did a bit on it the day after biden was anointed by the media.

    • R C Dean

      My boss has moved on from complaining that Trump did nothing to get us a vaccine, to complaining that he is doing nothing to help get it distributed and injected.

      I am counting the days. Unfortunately, there are more than 700 of them to go.

      • Urthona

        He bribed the shit out of pharmaceutical companies who almost certainly would’ve come up with a vaccine along the same timeline anyway, and all Democrats will complain about was that it wasn’t fast enough. The only way it could’ve been faster is to take phase 3 out of the approval process like the Russians did.

      • Raven Nation

        I thought Pfizer passed on most of the government money? Or was it someone else?

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        I don’t know if they took money from Warp Speed but they did have a guaranteed purchase order, so one way or another they were getting money from the government.

      • Urthona

        Exactly. They ‘kind of” did pass, because they partnered with a German company (BioNTech) and that disqualified them from some of the program.

        Still getting millions for distribution but that’s kind of the point I’m making.

        The program was unnecessary overall. They stood to make billions. No real need for government involvement except to loosen the rules and bureaucracy standing in their way. Which Democrats tried to argue was were dangerous changes until the election happened.

    • Jarflax cancelled Cancelled

      We pretend there is some future level of this crap where we will spring into action and start a violent uprising against the tyrants, but the reality is we are well past the point where it was called for and we did not do it.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        ^This…they’ve ruined people’s lives, destroyed their businesses, wrecked their savings, and are in the process of canceling Thanksgiving and Christmas while ramping up for a nationwide mask mandate and a ruinous lockdown and no one’s done shit nor will they. We’re fucked and we’re going to bend over and ask for more.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Damn, should have clicked. Oh well, my comment still stands.

      • Gadfly

        One of the few downsides of living in a peaceful society is that people are loath to upset the peace even if there is just cause. I think rebellions were more common in earlier times because wars were more common, so it was less unthinkable.

    • LJW

      I’m curious if that is just regular news footage that was dubbed over. Would be really easy to do.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Sinclair owned outlets being told to what to do.

        The conservative version of Journolist, except that we know those stations all have the same ownership. Unlike the major media outlets that coordinate behind the scenes and pretend to have different viewpoints.

    • wdalasio

      The media is the reason people have turned to fake news. One of the basic realities of management is that, in the absence of reliable information, rumors run rampant. The media’s absolute rejection of what is required for their credibility has left the public with no reliable standard to judge fake news by. Shouldn’t trust that story you picked up on Facebook? Who’s telling me that? The same clowns who spent the last four years babbling about “Russian collusion”? The people who assured us that “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor” was mostly true right up until they declared it the “Whopper of the Year”? Or should I defer to the “experts” who tell me something is mostly true when Bernie Sanders says it, but mostly false when Donald Trump says the same thing?

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Is the media really worse now? Remember the Maine, Iraqis throwing babies out of incubators, Gulf of Tonkin, etc. It’s just that people know they’re scum now.

      • wdalasio

        I think you’re probably right. But, I do think things have changed. As the public has discovered the media is dishonest and agenda-driven, the media itself has grown more desperate for blind acceptance for their narrative and has mostly abandoned its earlier pretense of objectivity.

        The existing product has been shown to be wildly insufficient. All that’s needed is for an enterprising person to figure out the workaround. I think they know it and are desperate to prevent it.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        The problem is that credible and unbiased news is boring. There’s some room in the market for right wing news outlets to get traction now that Fox has committed hari kari but successful news outlets thrive on drama. They’ll always wallow in the mud while the more intelligent minority will seek out meaningful information on the fringes, at least until those fringes are deplatformed by the media conglomerates and their allies. Should be an interesting next four years…

      • straffinrun

        Not many people are doing actual journalism. It seems like even people that are skeptical of the media are just taking apart news stories from the MSM and not doing their own. I suppose you’ve got The Blaze, Daily Caller etc, but a full on news network that does original journalism with the corporate woke shit would be nice.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Costs money, requires competence, doesn’t get clicks.

      • The Hyperbole

        I’ve said it before. Blaming “the media” for being biased/sensational/liars is like blaming Bud/Miller/Coors for making bland, boring, watery beer. Both are simply giving people what they want.

      • straffinrun

        It’s brainwashing and even if they think they want it, we can and should call it out.

      • juris imprudent

        So you’re following the Chomsky line there. The masses are always fooled, so it really just comes down to who is doing the fooling.

      • Raven Nation

        “We have met the enemy and he is us”

      • The Hyperbole

        The masses are always fooled

        Not familiar with Chomsky so maybe? However I’d say there is a small difference in being fooled and in getting what you want. The Bud Light drinker isn’t being fooled into thinking that Bud Light is a great beer, it’s just what they like. The masses aren’t fooled into believing MSNBC is hard hitting journalism, they know it’s biased but it’s the bias they like. Given the option of watching a “straight” news program they’d still choose MSNBC.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        So you’re saying the masses need someone to lead them because they’re incapable of or unwilling to use critical thinking?

      • The Hyperbole

        Not at all, in fact that is what I dislike about the whole TMITE bit. In my mind TMITE is the view that hinges on people being stupid and not knowing what is good for them. I figure people may be stupid but I’m in no position to tell them what’s good for them and neither is anyone else. No one is forced to watch CNN or FOX, no one is forced to follow Twitter or Facebook feeds, until that happens I can’t get worked up about how people chose to inform or not inform themselves.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        This is where I hop off the libertarian train. If I can’t identify evil in the world simply because it is not a coercive evil, then my ideology is ineffective.

        TMITE because their product is misleading and corrosive to society, and they have an unearned aura of legitimacy. Yeah, I can and do take my business elsewhere, but screw the entire media and journalism industry. The world would be a better place without them.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I saw the same mashup (or very similar) over a year ago I think but certainly nothing’s improved since.

    • UnCivilServant

      Why hasn’t a warrent been issued for Andy’s arrest yet?

      • straffinrun

        Yeah, it’s a real mystery.

  32. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Only twenty more minutes until middle kid comes out of quartet practice and I can go home and get in bed.

    These 5 am to 8 pm days are too long.

    • straffinrun

      Barbershop?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        That wouldn’t be very COVID friendly.

        Strings

  33. Count Potato

    “There is an urgent need for global stakeholders to cooperate in simultaneously managing the direct consequences of the COVID-19 crisis. To improve the state of the world, the World Economic Forum is starting The Great Reset initiative.

    The Covid-19 crisis, and the political, economic and social disruptions it has caused, is fundamentally changing the traditional context for decision-making. The inconsistencies, inadequacies and contradictions of multiple systems –from health and financial to energy and education – are more exposed than ever amidst a global context of concern for lives, livelihoods and the planet. Leaders find themselves at a historic crossroads, managing short-term pressures against medium- and long-term uncertainties.

    As we enter a unique window of opportunity to shape the recovery, this initiative will offer insights to help inform all those determining the future state of global relations, the direction of national economies, the priorities of societies, the nature of business models and the management of a global commons. Drawing from the vision and vast expertise of the leaders engaged across the Forum’s communities, the Great Reset initiative has a set of dimensions to build a new social contract that honours the dignity of every human being.”

    https://www.weforum.org/great-reset

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      GO

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        FUCK

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        YOURSELF

      • straffinrun

        WITH

      • Mojeaux

        A THOUSAND BARBED PENISES WITHOUT LUBE.

        Did I do that right?

      • straffinrun

        I was thinking “KINDNESS”. Y’all are kind of violent.

      • Agent Cooper

        Wow. That really escalated.

    • blackjack

      Reset? Did they try unplugging it and plugging it back in?

    • straffinrun

      New Soviet Man. Guess we didn’t win the Cold War.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Does anyone else notice that it’s the same leaders that are fucking up so badly, that they require more of their own vision and leadership to fix it?

    • Kwihn T. Senshel

      the vision and vast expertise of the leaders

      We’re sure we’ve got the best TOP MEN NOW.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      “ World Economic Forum DELETES Video On The Great Reset That Says “You’ll Own NOTHING” After Backlash”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhetP9yL8jE

      Trigger warning, it’s Tim Pool.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        If I could travel back in time, I’d kill Plato in his manger.

      • leon

        Didn’t Plato teach Aristotle?

      • Surly Knott

        Yes.
        And Aristotle taught Alexander the Great.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        The quintessential first Top Man.

      • Count Potato

        That would be some nativity scene.

      • Count Potato

        I haven’t watched much Tim Pool, but the one he did with Micheal Malice and Alex Jones was great.

    • blackjack

      There is an urgent need for global stakeholdersskateboarders to cooperate

      Maybe I’ve been skating too much lately?

      • straffinrun

        I keep seeing politicians saying they will self isolate after being exposed to COVID. My brain changes the “s” in “isolate” to “mm”.

      • blackjack
      • straffinrun

        DP. Always happy to be reminded of them.

      • blackjack

        That’s scary, considering your avatar.

    • CPRM

      the Great Reset initiative has a set of dimensions to build a new social contract that honours the dignity of every human being.

      A New World Order, if you will. Is Alex Jones not crazy? Is their headquarters in the Denver airport? Did Trump do 9-11?

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Alex Jones and David Icke are beginning to look like prophets as far as Im concerned, lizard people notwithstanding.

    • juris imprudent

      Well, a new social contract will certainly NOT be valid unless signed to by all the people that will be bound by it. No, not political leaders, every last person you pretentious asswipes.

    • Suthenboy

      So, international communism. It’s what they have been shooting for for 100 years except it looks more like fascism to me….potato, potatoe.

    • straffinrun

      Big Brother’s little sister is a bigger cunt.

      • blackjack

        She should be in school, SHAME ON YOU!!!!

    • Floridaman

      I would brick up my window.

  34. Not Adahn

    When this guy shot my stage I immediately noticed how bizarrely high his support thumb was. And then I thought, “wait, is that a subcompact with an extendo shoved up its ass?”

    Yes it was. Apparently he’s a savant of some sort. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHe81qKET2k

    • EvilSheldon

      There’s some really good advice in that video.

    • Sean

      Bookmarked for later.