Throwback Friday Links

by | Nov 27, 2020 | Daily Links | 175 comments

Hello, do my credentials still work? Are all the buttons in the right place? Let’s see if I remember how to link The Links. I hope everybody in America had a very happy Thanksgiving, and everyone else had a nice Thursday. The L family is still adjusting to the new addition. He’s a big baby. And an enormously efficient poop factory. Its like he views each clean diaper as an insult to his prowess. Other than that, we had my entire immediate family over. Parents, mother-in-law, and my brother, plus the three kids. It was insane. There was a lot of “GO PLAY OUTSIDE!” yesterday. And again today. We have acquired a Christmas tree and are decking the halls. Unfortunately, oldest son has practice this afternoon, so I am inadequately lubricated. It probably makes hanging lights safer, though.

If I were Roy Jones, Jr, I’d take this seriously.

Eppur si moeve… Article contesting COVID harms taken down by Johns Hopkins after “being used to support false and dangerous inaccuracies about the impact of the pandemic.”

Slow news day, that’s all I got.

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Brett L

Brett set out to find America, the real America, the America of strip malls and serial killers, of butthole waxing and kelp smoothies, of cocaine and maggots. He sought it in the most American part of America—Florida: swamp gas and fever dreams, where love arrives on a rickety boat and leaves when it doesn't have the money for its fourth abortion. Oh, where has Brett gone? He’s drinking at the neck of America’s wang, chewing its foreskin and working its shaft. Brett is becoming legend. Brett can never die. Brett can never die. Brett is America, facedown in his own patriotic puke: the red his blood, the white his stomach lining, and the cold, cold blue his gas station slushie, spiked with coconut rum and tetracycline.

175 Comments

  1. The Late P Brooks

    According to study, “in contrast to most people’s assumptions, the number of deaths by COVID-19 is not alarming. In fact, it has relatively no effect on deaths in the United States.”

    That must be why the CDC is now claiming plague deaths are undercounted by a factor of eight.

    • Urthona

      I saw this and it looked like quite a credible analysis.

      Everyone should be officially pissed.

      Please share this on social media on any and all that you are on.

  2. The Late P Brooks

    As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease.

    Huh.

    An anti-SCIENCE troglodyte such as moi might postulate some sort of category shift.

    • rhywun

      deaths from other diseases are being categorized as COVID-19 deaths

      Get out!

      • Count Potato

        And the CARES act paid them extra to do it.

      • robc

        The nice onterpretation is the bug is killing the people who would have died anyway.

      • robc

        I think that article is overreoresenting the lack of existence though. I saw a month by month chart of deaths from 1900, and this year does spike up above normal. It was a bad year, but not a disastrous one. It was the flu of the decade, maybe even 1/4 century, but nothing historical.

      • Jarflax

        ^this. It is not a trivial disease. At the same time it is an order of magnitude away from justifying the level of panic, and the response has been far more costly and damagingthan the disease, while simultaneously being ineffective. If we at some point face a true plague what this year has shown is that there is precisely no chance that we will be able to implement an effective nationwide quarantine at the point where such a measure would work. Personally I have always thought that as likely true, because there is no way to know you are up against a new black death until it has spread far enough that you can no stop the spread.

        The only point at which you can realistically stop a disease by lockdown and quarantine is very early on when it is still geographically localized. And at that point there is no way to know it is the new plague.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Even if it was on the scale that was feared or worse, it still doesn’t justify. Each person must make their own decisions for themselves. Recommendations and not much more. If in the midst of a massive pandemic with catastrophic death rates, people choose to live in denial so be it.

  3. DrOtto

    We must prevent all deaths!

    • Nephilium

      Don’t give them ideas. A government “war against death” will have us all dead by dawn based on the war on drugs, war on poverty, war on unemployment, war on income inequality, war on racism…

    • hayeksplosives

      Remy’s video about wanting people to die was a couple of years early.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        Nah. Its been in the American political playbook since at least the progressive era. Probably before.

      • Surly Knott
    • juris imprudent

      EXCEPT ABORTIONS!

  4. The Late P Brooks

    On Thursday, Johns Hopkins University explained that they deleted the article on the study because it “was being used to support false and dangerous inaccuracies about the impact of the pandemic.”

    Muh GRAVY TRAIN!

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      I know it shouldn’t be suprising but when a once prestigious falls to this shit it makes me angry/sad. Every damn time.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        *Prestigious institution.

      • rhywun

        This is a bigger scandal than whatever the fuck happened with the election.

        And nothing else happened.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        Yep. Our institutions becoming nothing more than vessels for ideolgy is going to do far more societal damage than Mushhead and Queen of All Minorities could even dream of.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Globally, yes. Nationally, IDK.

      • hayeksplosives

        As Uptom Sinclair said, “ It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

      • Homple

        Makes me happy to learn who the quacks are. By the way, you can be sure that Johns Hopkins has been incubating quacks for a long time. This crap didn’t just start last March.

  5. mrfamous

    It seems a simple question: what are the number of deaths so far this year? What are they normally? Hoe much has population increased?

    If there really isn’t an excess of deaths this year, the idea that single neighborhood in this country needs to be on lockdown needs to stop. We can still treat the virus as serious and pursue treatments and vaccines, but for christ sake without excess deaths, this really will be the new normal. There will _always_ be viruses and people will always die.

    • rhywun

      Heads should roll over this. They will try to bury the numbers but yeah, they’re right there. You can’t hide it.

      • C. Anacreon

        But as everything these days, the vast majority of people in this country will never know anything about this, and keep bleating that everyone will die if your mask temporarily slips down your nose.

        Wonder what the death toll would be if hospitals were instead of $13,000 bonus for each reported covid death, paid a premium to prove other causes of death in possible covid fatalities. Would we even be over 100K total by now? Of course, imagine the screaming about “incorrect totals” if this were done, because they can’t imagine incentives could work in opposite ways.

      • hayeksplosives

        Heads SHOULD roll but won’t. With print journals and peer reviewed papers no longer the main reference for scientific data and research methods, the Google will steer the search results to what they want you to believe.

        I keep seeing the Covid masks on TV ads (Hulu and football still have ads) and seeing NFL coaches with masks etc. I like to think that future generations will LOl at the silliness of it all, the way we laugh today at fictional bogeymen of old.

        But then I realize how much people, especially your average self centered bitch, need drama in their lives. Since there is no real danger and life is pretty good, they have to make this shit up and promote it.

        A bit like finding women who confessed to being witches because it was all exciting drama, right up to and including their eventual executions.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        But then I realize how much people, especially your average self centered bitch, need drama in their lives. Since there is no real danger and life is pretty good, they have to make this shit up and promote it.

        This. Panic is more fun than existential boredom.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I don’t understand this mindset, but I grew up worrying if the Russians loved their children too. ?

      • Sensei

        Sting had the same concern.

      • Jarflax

        and no one worries much about that anymore even though Pakistan, India, and China have nukes, have ongoing low level border wars, have a real possibility of a true belliever coming to power, and have historically low valuation for human life. Not to mention nukes held by N. Korea where spoiled madmen wield unlimited power. Nuclear war is not less likely today than it was in the 80s. It is more.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Sting and I were but gullible children back then.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Everyone is convinced of the righteousness of their own beliefs. What’s that line that keeps getting brought up, positions arrived at by emotion can’t be reasoned out of?

      • DEG

        You can’t reason someone out of a position that person didn’t reason himself into.

      • dontreadonme

        I have found this to be true more times than I care to recount. And to me the central failure of our educational system is to not teach students how to make a cogent argument. It is really quite sad.

      • Gdragon

        They also probably feel somewhat invested in it too. If the actions taken were unnecessary then they shut down their life and hid inside for nothing.

      • Fourscore

        Political careers invested

      • Gdragon

        This is true as well, I actually should have been clearer that I was talking about the people that are supporting/encouraging the politicians’ actions.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        Hell yeah, lets do it French style this time! The founding fathers are great and all but Robespierre knew how to party!

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        The cautionary tale of Robespierre isn’t cited nearly enough lately.

      • straffinrun

        The ending is jaw dropping.

    • straffinrun

      Those are questions only a person that hates life would ask.

  6. The Late P Brooks

    Where are the air samples from airports, gyms. bars, the Senate floor, etc, showing contamination at any level, much less lethal saturation?

    If this plague is transmitted through the air, proof by sampling should be easy.

    • Anti Pro State

      Analysis is so anti-science. Just trust your betters, they would never lie to you.

      • Fourscore

        “Please share this on social media on any and all that you are on.”

        I just sent out my personal and scathing critique of the whole scam to my email friends, including the medical oriented. I ran the math about 6 months ago, ref: Causes of death in the US.

        I’m guessing I’ll have fewer (less) email friends and relatives by morning. I know, I know, preaching to the choir. I’m waiting for “Deaths Related to the Covid Vaccine” figures to be posted.

        OZY’s book should go to the top of the NYT best seller’s list now.

  7. Count Potato

    “Slow news day, that’s all I got.”

    Slow comment day. Glad to hear thing are going well with the L’s.

    • limey

      It seems odd to me that Priti is in the most expensive bracket. I would definitely put ACB and Melania up there, but it’s not like a SC justice should be a “politihoe”. I dunno. This is still less demeaning to women than the entire Democratic platform.

    • Count Potato

      OK, I found out the one next to shoe is Kinga Duda, the first daughter of Poland. Next to her is a bad picture of Ivanka?

      No idea who is the one in red.

      • limey

        Nah it’s not Kat. On my phone I thought it might be Tomi but it’s not her either.

      • limey

        There’s a woman named shoe?

      • limey

        I don’t think I am able to parse any of that, correctly or otherwise.

      • Count Potato

        Huh? It’s a link to her Twitter.

      • limey

        Well yeah I get that much, but everything after that was confusing.

      • Count Potato

        She makes YouTube videos.

  8. grrizzly

    Who could possibly be surprised by this?

    Turning to the pandemic, Francis blasted people who protested anti-virus restrictions “as if measures that governments must impose for the good of their people constitute some kind of political assault on autonomy or personal freedom!”

    • kbolino

      “Is the Pope Catholic?” isn’t quite the same joke it originally was…

      • limey

        I like to rib my lefty Catholic folks about it. They don’t seem to see the funny side.

      • Count Potato

        There are many left-wing Catholics. There are also many leftist Protestants, Jews, Muslims, etc.

      • Homple

        When the Pope is discussed, I usually find a way to inject “…and bears now leave the woods to relieve themselves” into the conversation.

      • blackjack

        It’s, does the Pope shit into a microphone? Is a bear smarter than the average religious leader?

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      The Pope can suck it.

    • straffinrun

      Same defense they used when protecting pedophiles.

    • DEG

      I like #2 and #3.

      I had to do a double take on #7. She looks a lot like a woman I used to know.

      #8, #9, #11 are good.

      So is #16 and #17.

      #25 looks mischievous.

      I want to put Google to work on #29, but I’m back to not being able to run Google image searches on archive pictures. Damn. She looks familiar but I cannot remember where I’ve seen her before.

      #32 looks like an anorexic AOC. Yuck.

      Good gallery overall.

      • juris imprudent

        I tend to think #29 looks familiar as she may well be the one married to that notable English fellow.

    • limey

      ?

    • hayeksplosives

      Dan!! My man!

    • Chafed

      MikeS will be along to tell you it shouldn’t.

  9. The Late P Brooks

    Wait, what?

    The ripple effects of the new tax could also hurt blue collar workers and service sector employees in the long run. Tax revenue for basic services, social programs, and infrastructure will be hollowed out if high-earners continue to flee. The wealthy will simply bring their capital elsewhere; they will go where the jobs are or create them someplace else. This may bring advantages for employees in Denver or Austin, to the detriment of low and middle-income workers in San Francisco.

    That’s crazy talk.

    • Grosspatzer

      They’ll all go to New York for the business-friendly policies! Wait…

      • rhywun

        New York (State) is now (thanks to recent votes just counted three weeks after the election in which I have full confidence) a supermajority, one-party state. I mean, it was a one-party state before, but now the Luv Gov – who knows damn well how badly his party wants to destroy the state, and sometimes even utters it out loud – can’t veto shit.

        Buckle up, fellow New Yorkers. It’s gonna be a bumpy ride.

        Naturally, a “wealth tax” is at the top of the wish-list.

      • Chafed

        I hope the Dems pass everything on their wish list. The country needs an object lesson on what happens when you do.

  10. hayeksplosives

    As I was steeling myself to the idea of the Harris/CornPop administration, I was reminded of one of the most annoying things that Obama used to do. I mean, policies aside—it was a personal peeve I had about his style.

    Specifically, anytime Obama announced a new proggie agenda item and it didn’t poll well or got voted down, especially in 2010 when the people registered their displeasure at the way ACA was “deemed passed” through Congress.

    Obama’s response to being rejected by the voters was always “we failed to message properly” or we didn’t have a chance to make people understand. He never admitted that maybe the people didn’t want whatever he was foisting on them; he implied that if only the common people weren’t so backwards and ignorant, they would surely follow Mr Enlightenment.

    What an arrogant prick. And he is basically iunretiring right now.

    • mikey

      Hilldog did just that with her health care failure – we just didn’t explain it in simple enough terms.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        “‘Shut up,’ they explained”?

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      I find his penchant for adolescent girl hair huffing to be his most annoying quality, outside of forcibly penetrating broads with his fingers I mean.

    • creech

      “we failed to message properly”
      Ironically, that’s what Trump failed to do as far as genteel suburban folks were concerned.

  11. grrizzly

    ‘Killing Spree’: DeSantis Extends Ban On Mask Enforcement Amid Florida COVID-19 Spike

    Health experts and local leaders were stunned Wednesday when Florida’s Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis extended his order barring towns, cities, and counties from enforcing local mask mandates even amid a disturbing spike in COVID-19 cases.

    DeSantis extended an earlier order prohibiting localities from fining people who refuse to wear masks, effectively rendering mandates unenforceable.

    Good for Florida.

      • C. Anacreon

        Nice link to info, thanks.

        The linked article also has a tweet by Eric Topol, aka “The Smoker’s Tooth Polish”

      • Ted S.

        I thought Eric Topol was Tevye

    • Urthona

      Let’s go take take a look at the numbers.

      • Urthona

        Ok done.

        Florida’s numbers are not particularly bad and in no way out of the ordinary.

      • juris imprudent

        THAT’S WHAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE TERRIBLE! HE’S SHOWING THAT WE ARE OVERBLOWN HYSTERICS!!!

    • DEG

      Good.

  12. DEG

    They did not, however, challenge the accuracy of the data or its conclusions. In other words, the article was deleted because it didn’t fit the proper narrative.

    Yep. Fuck the Covid Cultists.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      What’s the quid fine per hogshead over the limit?

      • limey

        £100 and 3 penalty points on drivers license. I can also pay a similar amount (or more IIRC) to do a “speed awareness course”, which is apparently online in plaguetime. I’ve done one before, it was four hours of fucking garbage. Supposedly the online only one is only two hours? I don’t know if I can rig up a drinking bird toy like fat mumu Homer to just hit a key repeatedly instead of actually participating.

      • limey

        That’s the one. The mystery of how the drinky bird toppled over lingers on.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Camera or cop?

      • limey

        Camera. Mobile van I think.

      • blackjack

        I probably flipped off a hundred of those as I drove around at 85 miles per when I was there. Rental car and American license, what’re they gonna do? Nothing, history says.

    • limey

      I wonder if Seth MacFarlane took the time to read Justice Gorsuch’s opinion.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        no, he’s an idiot who can’t process things that don’t fit his worldview,
        \Scott Adams said so……

      • limey

        The Family Guy episode on the Tea Party was pretty moronic. He saw no need to actually understand what he was attempting to lampoon beyond his basic prejudice, apparently.

      • rhywun

        The politics on that show are insultingly stupid. After watching a few episodes I finally realized why some of my friends liked it so much.

    • straffinrun

      I’m *ANGRY* because prominent members of the medical community have undermined established medical science and destroyed its credibility by playing favorites, selective rule enforcement, granting exemptions for ideological reasons, and otherwise engaging in rank hypocrisy.

      He shouldn’t be *angry* at government and its lackeys for doing what was predictable from the outset. Yes, freedom will have some bad people taking advantage, but lack of freedom guarantees the authoritarians will snatch the opportunity to impose their will in what looks hypocritical to others. Feature not bug.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      On its face it’s moronic, yes, but it doesn’t have to be clever or make sense as long as it conveys the correct sentiment to his political tribe which it did.

      • straffinrun

        Goose stepping will blow a hammy eventually.

    • The Hyperbole

      Which stupid thing? Scott’s or Eric’s?

      • straffinrun

        Why are Trumpists always demanding other people prove things to the Trumpists?

        Is it a lack of intelligence?

        This. What Scott said was boilerplate boomer reaction to the election.

      • The Hyperbole

        They are both asinine reasoning. Scott’s saying that denying an assertation is an assertation in itself and thus up to the party that denied the assertation to prove their counter assertation. It’s guilty until proven innocent territory.

      • straffinrun

        That’s exactly the problem in proving voter fraud the way the election was conducted: mail in ballots up the ying yang without a system in place to effectively weed out fraudulent votes. So, you can’t really prove anything after the fact. Yeah, Scott is in a terrible position and the only way to have prevented this clusterfluck was to deny its legitimacy *before* the election. But they played the game regardless and have to deal with it. I’m sure the thinking was, “Oh, we’ll win anyways.” Bad move.

      • The Hyperbole

        Meh, hard but not impossible. Start contacting the supposed mail in voters, if (as some of the allegations claim) upwards of 10% are fraudulent I’d think you’d see that quickly. Go into court with 5,000 out of 50,000 voter that will attest that they didn’t vote and you’d have a case. All this “I saw a van with out of state plates”, “someone was rude to me”, “some one had on a BLM shirt”, “I saw 14 military ballots all for Biden and the military is pro Trump” stuff is distraction.

      • straffinrun

        You only need it to be “hard but not impossible” for the media and team blue to spin away the accusations no matter how credible they turn out to be. That leaves you with the courts and I don’t have any confidence that they are acting independently.

      • mrfamous

        And you’re gonna be able to get this done before October of next year, how?

        It’s the system itself that is the problem. You have absolutely no way to verify the chain of custody of these votes, and you simply do not have the time to investigate them all, particularly when you’re constantly being stonewalled.

        The solution isn’t to find out if the votes are fraudulent, the solution is to scrap this asinine system where there are absolutely no controls on the legitimacy of the process, thereby encouraging everybody to thumb the scales in their favor.

        Republicans would me more than happy to steal as many elections as they could get away with. The problem is that on a national scale, the Democrats have a stranglehold on almost all of the population dense areas. This makes it far easier to “scale up” this kind of crap. It’s been going on forever, except this year you had a real close election and mail-in/absentee/unsecured balloting got massively expanded.

        That’s not even counting all the “legal” fraud that goes on WRT ballot access and all of the other ways the system entrenches _only_ these two parties, despite neither one being particularly popular with most folks.

      • Count Potato

        “It’s guilty until proven innocent territory.”

        It’s more like crime exists. If someone is accused of robbery, there is a presumption of innocence of the accused, not a presumption there is no robbery.

      • The Hyperbole

        Okay, the assumption is that fraud exists and therefore the Democrats have to prove they didn’t cheat? Why don’t the Republicans have to prove they didn’t cheat? Surely losing is no defense, you could cheat and still lose, isn’t that the claim against Hillary in 2016? Prove those dead people didn’t vote for Trump.

      • UnCivilServant

        Everywhere that we have evidence of vote integrety procedures being ignored oor flagrantly violated, the people in charge of running the election need to prove that the results as presented are accurate, how they know that, and what valid reason there was for not following vote integrety procedures. Elsewise we cannot accept the results as presented from these sources.

        Now when these same people get charged with electoral fraud, they are presumed to just be fucking incompetent rather than criminal until proven to be criminal. But when there is no way to show that the results are what they are claimed to be beyond “Trust us”, we cannot accept those results.

      • The Hyperbole

        But when there is no way to show that the results are what they are claimed to be beyond “Trust us”

        You have the ballots and the voter logs. Sure, unless you personally are going to go count each ballot and contact each person on the voter log to verify that they voted you have to “trust us” eventually. I don’t know that you could have a system that counts 100million+ votes that didn’t rely on “trust us” at some point.

      • Count Potato

        “Okay, the assumption is that fraud exists and therefore the Democrats have to prove they didn’t cheat? Why don’t the Republicans have to prove they didn’t cheat?”

        Not either party, the states running the elections. They should have to demonstrate voting is secure and accurate.

      • blackjack

        I’m pretty sure the people contesting the results have to prove there was fraud. I’ve flipped through some of the charges and complaints and they seem to have quite q bit more than ” someone was mean to me” or ” they wore BLM shirts” If that’s what you believe they have, then your skepticism is rational. They have a shit ton more than that.

      • The Hyperbole

        What’s the best claim they have, I’m open to accepting fraud, but when I check the stuff that isn’t nebulous hearsay stuff that can’t be fact-checked, I find it lacking. For example the 170,000 votes from 0 registered voters bit, turns out Crowder was misreading the spreadsheet, same with the over 200% voter turnout claims, they confused MI with MN, these claims just aren’t based in facts. It doesn’t help that Rudy and the gang hold press conferences alleging all kinds of fraud and then when in court state “we are not alleging fraud” and “this is not a fraud case”. I’m more than willing to accept shenanigan’s happened but they got to prove it, and so far I’ve seen no Krakens, haven’t even seen an unusually ugly manatee.

      • blackjack

        Read the court docs, they’re all over the internet. I doubt that during my lifetime there’s ever been as much evidence presented of election rigging.

  13. DEG

    Updates on Bedford, NH bakery case

    A Bedford bakery is challenging a fine it received from the Attorney General’s Office for alleged COVID-19 violations.

    “The mask mandate goes against my inspiration for starting this business — to build a face-to-face community space, and I believe people who make the choice to come in and enjoy that environment should have the right to do so,” Alexa Firman, owner of Simply Delicious Baking Co., said in a statement.

    Simply Delicious Baking Co. was fined $500 for repeatedly failing to ensure employees wore masks, according to a letter from Associate Attorney General Anne M. Edwards.

    • Surly Knott

      You are what you eat. They’ve become ambulatory vegetables.

  14. Sean

    We went to the gun store today looking for a Christmas present ? for me. Nothing stood out to me.

    Gf came home with a shiny 1911 though.

    • Jarflax

      Hey if you are shopping for Christmas I really want a FAL…

      • DEG

        #metoo

  15. Surly Knott

    Well, I’ve now had the nasal-swab COVID test. It was required by the site that’s “hosting” my colonoscopy on the 2nd.
    The good news is it wasn’t nearly as awful as I’d feared or been led to believe.
    The bad news is the absolutely astounding levels and quantities of institutional ineptitude and mismanagement throughout the process. Even as skeptical as I am about institutions and bureaucracy I was amazed at the incoherence and top to bottom incompetence, and flat out absence, of what should have been simple straight-forward processes.
    The waiting-to-see news is if I get a false positive and have to reschedule the damn anal probe. If I do, will they charge me the rescheduling fee? Based on what I saw today, yes. 🙁

      • rhywun

        Joe can’t get in there and roll up his shirt-sleeves and get this done right soon enough.

      • Urthona

        This was actually reported at the beginning. Why some sites reported their success rate at 70% (averaging both sets of data).

        I absolutely think it could hold things up for them, although it should be good enough for approval.

        The advantage of the AstraZeneca is it’s cheaper and doesn’t need to be thawed for 45 minutes from a really cold temperature. Making it perfect for poorer countries.

        If you are in a high risk category in a wealthy country, I’d just go with the 95% effective Pfizer or Moderna.

      • Sensei

        Agreed, but more availability would be good for all.

        It is also unfortunate for developing nations as well for the reasons you mentioned.

        OT: no 3080 for me. I won’t pay crazy prices and will just wait it out.

    • Ted S.

      Having a swab stuck up your nose can’t be any worse than what you’re getting stuck up your ass.

      • rhywun

        The brain stab was way worse than my recent colon-probe. It helped that was I unconscious for the latter.

      • rhywun

        I wish I could get my ass to Mars.

      • Surly Knott

        But the colonoscopy is done under anesthesia.* The nasal swab is just stick it way in, wait, pull it out. Bleah

        *If propofol was good enough for Michael Jackson, it’s good enough for me. LOL

      • rhywun

        But the colonoscopy is done under anesthesia

        When I was reading up on this before my procedure, I learned that some are done under anesthesia, some aren’t. I had no idea going in that I was gonna go under. What a relief that was.

      • Surly Knott

        Yeah, my first one was ambiguous wrt anesthetic.
        Oddly enough, they used Benadryl. Seriously. Put me right out, but coming out of it was slow and moderately unpleasant. Propofol has been great, out like a light, and wake up like a switch was flipped on. This will be my fourth. The prep is the worst part, without a doubt.

      • rhywun

        Yeah, the prep is awful. And of course my surgery was down there too so I got to do the prep twice this summer.

      • blackjack

        Yes, but the question is, after it was over and you went to put your pants back on, did the doctor say, ” No, no, those are my pants, yours are over there?”

      • rhywun

        That would have been the most action I’ve had in a while. ?‍♂️

    • Fourscore

      Good luck on all counts, SN.

      I was very nervous first time around. After that it was about as exciting as a teeth cleaning. I’m past the “Best Checked By Date” so I have to wait for the next pandemic, as this one is petering out, to find something to worry about.

    • DEG

      Good luck

  16. The Hyperbole

    If your tired of being pissed of about Covid and the Election, here. You can be pissed off about cops abusing their power again. HT JB

    • westernsloper

      Ya, that helps. Now I am just more pissed off.

      • straffinrun

        BTW, sorry I dropped out so abruptly yesterday. Battery died.

      • westernsloper

        No worries, I was at the point of stammering so I should have left far sooner. Poor Lobot had to listen to me until he shut it all down.

      • Mojeaux

        It was the murder hornet house owner, wasn’t it?

      • straffinrun

        “Sic’em, boys!”

        *Unwilling to Google how to spell “sick a dog on someone”. [sic].

      • The Hyperbole

        People knock the Glib Zoom but where else do you get to witness felony trespassing on the other side of the planet in real time? good stuff… good stuff.

      • westernsloper

        Straffs antics do make for a fine evening.

    • limey

      Cops will always get away with shit like that. At the local level they are a law unto themselves and judges and prosecutors don’t want any trouble so to get anywhere with any litigation against thug cops you’ve got to spend big to push it all the way up to the federal courts where even then you’re likely to come up against the brick wall of qualified immunity for dirty cops of all stripes. #backtheblue and #bluelivesmatter can go fuck themselves until they fix their own. Them and the Klantifa-BLM thugs deserve each other. It’s the rest of America that shouldn’t have to be subject to either.

    • blackjack

      SHHH!!! Even here I get called a “Trump fan boi” for mentioning stuff like that. It’s supposedly all because Trump is uniquely hated, unlike W and Reagan and Nixon and all the rest of the non-blue presidents. Not to even mention the various nazi candidates and dog killing, chains wielding, war mongers. This is undoubtedly the year of total bullshit!

  17. westernsloper
    • DEG

      Seems legit.

  18. Broswater

    We live in strange times with strange people.

    People want to believe, and really don’t care about reality at all.

    It went from ”COVID is real and you should be scared!” to ”Well, just in case you know…” and finally to ”okay, it’s not that dangerous, not that deadly, but heh, who cares? It’s still worth you getting rammed in the ass for the cause.”

    It went from ”Haha ! Biden is gonna win!!” to ” Yeah, maybe some weird irregularities, won’t change much, he won 😛 !!! ” and to ”Yeah, the election was fraudulent, and it was stolen, yup. So what Tovarich ?”.

    We’re at normalization now, and what is sad is that Yuri Bezmenov pointed out that only a full scale military intervention will solve this.

  19. The Hyperbole

    This could have been our President but no you asshole’s had to vote for Jo Jorgensen.

    • straffinrun

      Didn’t wait. Skipped to the end. Who has 51 seconds to spare?

    • mrfamous

      I’m sorry, even though he’s a very good boy, WADA needs to check his Alpo for crank.

    • westernsloper

      I thought you were pulling for the “semi smart” border collie? Not the really smart border collie.

      • The Hyperbole

        The really smart border collie wouldn’t put up with that shit, “Fuck you, Run your own damn obstacle course, Carol.”

      • blackjack

        That is what my cat would do, right there. Then , she’d offer me a gutted mouse carcass, in case I have a need for one.