Letter to the editor, Curfew Edition

by | Dec 4, 2020 | Big Government, Liberty, Politics | 232 comments

Mayor <redacted>, Council members –

I read with interest about your request for the imposition of a curfew and the councils partial support.
Can you please elucidate what justification there is for such a move? Is there any scientific basis,
studies, published literature, that shows that a curfew with seemingly arbitrary hours has any
effect what-so-ever on airborne respiratory virus transmission? Note a ‘plausible’ mechanistic
hypothesis put forward by yourself or an appointed bureaucratic ‘expert’ does not constitute evidence.
That’s not how science works, it requires observation and data that demonstrate effect in a
statistically significant manner.

I’ll note that our record on effective responses does not give one confidence in the value of
this edict. Gov. <redacted> allowed municipalities to impose mask mandates in June and <redacted>
and <redacted> County rapidly put such mandates in place. There is no evidence of any effect on
SARS Cov-2 spread or impacts; certainly didn’t stop the current putative ‘spike’ in <redacted>.
Indeed, there is no evidence of any correlation between mask mandates and any positive effect
on the transmission or disease impact anywhere across the US down to the county level,
or in Europe or Asia. Empirically, masks don’t work. That’s not surprising since the actual
science has been pretty unequivocal on their lack of impact – see e.g. Xiao et. al. (2020)
for  a meta-analysis of available RCTs and epidemiological studies. Every actual scientific test
conducted in the last 40 years has demonstrated no statistically significant positive effect of
masks in preventing the transmission of airborne respiratory viruses. A case of ineffective
“do-something” for appearances sake with no benefit, but great cost – how is your curfew
any different?

The same can be said for lock downs. There is no correlation of the imposition of lock downs
with any positive effect on transmission or impact of SARS Cov-2, nationally or internationally.
See e.g. Chaudhry et. al. 2020, or Meunier 2020, or additionally peruse PANDA and specifically this PDF
(not peer reviewed but high quality data analysis). The WHO itself, of which I assure you I am
not a big fan, recommends against lock downs as a useful measure against respiratory viruses (e.g.
ISBN 978-92-4-151683-9, 2019, Table 1 Not recommended in any circumstances: Quarantine of exposed
individuals,….,Internal travel restrictions”, and have more recently recommended against lock downs
in the current situation based on an understanding of the significant costs in life and health
that will far exceed the damages caused by the actual virus). The lock down strategy has been
demonstrably ineffective in preventing harms from SARS Cov-2 spread while imposing very
large costs in human life and well being. Yet here we are – another case of ineffective
“do-something” for appearances sake with no benefit but great cost – how is your curfew any
different?

I suppose you’ve not read this far, but one further note on the current irrational, hysterical
drive to impose additional restrictions on the citizens of <redacted>. What is driving it?
The rise in cases? The current case hysteria is unwarranted – we’ve never done such aggressive
testing on a healthy population during the normal yearly respiratory infection season,
using a testing method that was never designed or intended to be diagnostic and is being
run at such a high cycle threshold so as to produce meaningless results with respect to actually
tracing individuals at risk from Covid-19. Reporting and relying on case counts in the current
testing environment is useless and only provides a means for politicians and media to foment fear
and generate eyeballs on pages and screens. Perhaps we’re concerned about impacts, e.g. hospitalization
and deaths? These, like the positive cases, require context. How stressed are hospitals during normal
respiratory infection seasons? Generally speaking hospital ICUs are running at 80% (and can expand
quite quickly if need be) capacity during a normal year in the respiratory viral season – it makes little
sense to build out capacity that will not be used. So is the current capacity usage really significantly
above normal usage in the fall and winter months? The same relates to deaths. There is a significant
rise in deaths from various respiratory infections and pneumonias in the fall and winter every
year. We just don’t normally hear about it since we are not normally hyper-focused on a single
virus and inundated with excessive, counter-productive testing. Is there excess mortality
in the current respiratory season, i.e. if we were to look at all cause mortality or
mortality from respiratory infectious diseases, including Covid-19, during the current year
to the average of the last 5-10 years, is there a significant difference? This is the
sort of context that is needed right now from both the media and our leaders. Not irrational
fear mongering and ineffective, un-justified, governmental edicts that are an anathema
in a free society.

Sincerely

<redacted>

About The Author

PutridMeat

PutridMeat

Blah blah, blah-blah blah. Blah? B-b-b-b-b-lah! Blah blah blah blah. BLAH!

232 Comments

  1. Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

    I have an idea how to run an experiment to see if masks work. We’ve got all these kids in cages at the border. Why not do some medical experiments? Put masks on one group. Leave the others maskless. Science.

    • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

      Oh, and first!

    • UnCivilServant

      The eurostudy actually did something similar with volunteers, including exposure to an infected person. There was no impact on infection rates due to masks.

  2. ron73440

    I like it, but you are right, they won’t read that far.

    After the third question you have shown yourself to be a science denier.

  3. CPRM

    The #science says masks DO work, any “science” that says they don’t isn’t #science, and regurgitating those “facts” makes you a racist grandma killer!

    The only reason masks haven’t solved the problem is that ‘people’ aren’t masking appropriately! If we just take 2 weeks (JUST 2!) and follow all the #science, we’ll be done with this! Wear your fucking mask!

    • ron73440

      A case of ineffective
      “do-something” for appearances sake with no benefit, but great cost – how is your curfew
      any different?

      Something must be done.

      • Raven Nation

        I assume that is Yes (Prime) Minister.

      • ruodberht

        It bothers me irrationally that the two fallacies are completely different, one being a straightforward affirming the consequent and the other being an inappropriate existential instantiation.

    • creech

      What two weeks? Biden is promising 100 days of masking to solve the problem. Thank goodness a vaccine is on the way or we would be wearing masks forever until herd immunity is reached.

      • kbolino

        I wonder, sometimes, if these people live in a different world. I think “how is the 100 days starting in late January going to be any different than the nearly 300 days before it?” Everybody I see in public has been wearing the masks for a long time now.

        But I guess because Der Trumpenfuhrer didn’t personally issue the mask mandate, therefore nobody was wearing as mask at all, and the timer only begins when His Highness President-Elect ™ Joe Biden rubber-stamps whatever the bureaucrats want takes the initiative and shows the virus what’s what.

        Random non-intelligent agents of nature are, actually, quite self-aware and reflective. They know the difference between when a governor tells you to do something and when a President tells you to do it, even if the net effect is the same.

      • mrfamous

        They do this with Arizona. People scream at Doug Ducey for not passing a statewide mask mandate. Meanwhile, over 90% of the population of Arizona is under mask mandates either from Counties or Cities, so a statewide mandate would accomplish very little.

        _Everyone_ in every store I go to is wearing a mask. Everyone. If masks work, shouldn’t they start working some time soon?

      • Gustave Lytton

        Let me guess, the same ones demanding the state use their iron fist to crack down on masks & institute lockdowns would be horrified if someone suggested they personally cut down on their own social interactions voluntarily.

        I see it with high tax residents complaining about those taxes while decrying evil republicans who want to cut everything to the bone.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Masked not blessed by the power of the State cannot stop the virus. Cuomo, DeWine, Walz and the other governors don’t have the full dark powers to cast a 100% effective spell on the citizens of their states. They have to focus their powers solely on the heroic protesters in their cities.

      • juris imprudent

        His Highness

        I believe you mean His Imperial Majesty.

      • Mostly Peaceful JaimeRoberto

        100 days after inauguration is about May 1. Looking at the Worldometer data, May 1 2020 is about when the deaths started declining without a mask mandate. So it’s likely that we will pass the peak by May 1 regardless, and Biden will get to play the hero for the mask mandate.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Does he have any tiger-repelling rocks for sale?

      • ron73440

        Yep, and we’ll see it, but people like my mom will be amazed and heartbroken that Trump wouldn’t stop the virus.

        The media continues to piss on us and tell us it’s raining.

        Believe the science!

      • CPRM

        Haha, like the vaccine will end this…

      • Not Adahn

        Listen, just because you got a negative cooftest doesn’t mean you don’t have the coof, and getting the coofvaccine doesn’t mean you’ve been vaccinated against the coof.

      • J. Frank Parnell

        Well, it has to end in order for Biden to take credit for ending it.

      • Idle Hands

        masks aren’t ever going away. Have you seen the people wearing masks alone in their cars? they aren’t ever going to be reached ever.

      • mrfamous

        We’re 18 days away from the 19th Anniversary of Richard Reid’s flight from Paris to Miami.

        So yeah, soon we’ll have been taking our shoes off at the airport for 19 years. Enjoy your masks.

      • Sean

        I saw a dude walking on the side of the road, by himself and wearing a mask today.

      • ron73440

        In Gettysburg my wife and I were one of the few not wearing masks on the street. The hotel never mentioned it and only two stores kicked me out. Some other stores asked and I told them it gives me a headache. I did wear one inside restaurants as little as possible.

        One couple(not wearing masks) actually looked panicked when they saw us and went into the street as they put their mask on to avoid us. I don’t want to be racist, but he was wearing a CANADA shirt.

      • Sean

        I don’t want to be racist, but he was wearing a CANADA shirt.

        ?

      • Gadfly

        Some other stores asked and I told them it gives me a headache.

        Ironically the masks irritate my respiratory system, causing me to sneeze and cough more frequently than I otherwise would, meaning that if I’m ever an asymptomatic spreader I will be more dangerous with a mask than without one.

      • Mojeaux

        A Target employee hastily/panickedly said, “Ma’am, do you have a mask?” when I walked in maskless. I said, “I do but I can’t wear it.” That dropped the subject.

        I was a coward for not saying “won’t” instead of “can’t.”

      • ron73440

        I’ve had to wear one all day twice on ships and both evenings i was stuffed up and had several sneezing episodes. I use a CPAP so I had trouble sleeping both nights.

      • Lazer

        My new reply when being asked about a mask, “No thanks, I’m trying to quit.”

      • UnCivilServant

        The last time someone tried to tell me to wear a mask, my exact words were “Piss off.”

        Mind you, I was walking down a sidewalk outside and the (maskless) asshole shouted it from inside his car.

      • Idle Hands

        same people must wear a condom in bed alone.

  4. ron73440

    Related, but I posted in the tail end of the morning links:

    I got onto it with my mom about lock downs. She is 74, 5’5″, weighs about 280lbs and had chemo last year, so I understand her fear.

    She is so glad Biden will have a national plan and everything I say is met with “in your opinion.”

    She also has a friend on a ventilator so she will continue to”believe the science.”

    I offered to send her Tom Woods’s video to show her the effects of the lock downs and masks. (I didn’t mention him by name, though I doubt she knows who he is.)

    This is a direct quote” Nah…can’t teach an old dog new tricks. I’m pretty happy as is.”

    Luckily this was a text because I kind of lost it a little. I could not imagine sending that to anyone, I am more of a send it, let me see what I think, maybe I’m wrong, or maybe I can poke holes in whatever it is.

    Bottom line, she still doesn’t want us to go visit her in PA. If I go stay with my brothers, she won’t let them come visit either. She hasn’t hugged her Grand daughters since February because my brother is still working, they are 7 & 9.

    I don’t know, just ranting I guess.

    • juris imprudent

      Sometimes, we just expect too much of people. Humans are what they are.

      • ron73440

        I know, but it makes my brain hurt.

    • CPRM

      I’m only 37 and pissed at the year of spending time with my nieces/nephews I’ve lost. This MY life, and it’s ending one minute at a time. They have taken almost a whole year from me.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Wait til your my age, this year is a Ripoff! I want my Year back…………..

      • Brochettaward

        You want your time back? I feel that way every time I read one of your posts, old man.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        There is an idea of a Brochettaward; some kind of abstraction. But there is no real him: only an entity, something illusory. And though he can hide his cold gaze, and you can shake his hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense your lifestyles are probably comparable… He simply is not there.

      • UnCivilServant

        It’s called an NPC. You’ll get used to them.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I’m looking for the Hand that forces you to read them……..
        it’s around here somewhere….

      • Jarflax

        I think this is it.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Ooh, five stars.

      • ron73440

        GAHH!, Why oh why did I click?

        Toxteth is right, it does have 5 star reviews.

      • Tres Cool

        Pic checks out.

    • Claypoolsreservoir

      Given her situation, her fear is rational. She’s ripe for death by coof. Yes, her chance of death is small, but by all evidence it is much higher than any of the other common viral infections that plague the planet. Common being the operative word.

      Given that you cannot reason with her, can you perhaps extend an olive branch? Will she see you all if you test negative? Maybe then your children can spend time with her and belay her fears some.

      I’m sure you’ve considered this, but because this has become a religion, you can’t easily reason away peoples faith. Sometimes it’s better to simply sing kumbaya with the afflicted and then when not in their presence, proclaim their stupidity to all who will listen.

      • ron73440

        Not an option unless I was willing to hunker down on the farm with her. I don’t think that would turn out well for us.

        It’s not my kids, it’s my brother who lives right down the road, but he works with other people at gas wells, so she is scared of the kids.

        She’ll let them in the house, but won’t hug anyone except my step dad.

        She gets her groceries from Wal-Mart pick up and never goes anywhere.

        Not sure, but thanks for the ideas.

  5. Toxteth O'Grady

    Uh, reformat and resubmit? The hard line breaks are distracting from your excellent points.

    • PutridMeat

      Sorry – original edited in VI (I told you I was old!) and cut and pasted. I LIKE hard line breaks. (Lofts softball up in the air)

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Don’t mind me; I get irritated when people don’t use full justification.

      • Jarflax

        Hmm, that is odd. I find justification closely akin to rationalization and generally annoying.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Oh, c’mon, you as a lawyer know what I mean. It’s like text not meeting the line numbers on pleading paper.

      • Jarflax

        It was a joke. But seriously I don’t like full justification generally. The ragged right edge from left justification bothers me much less than the excessive spread you get in the spacing when you use long words.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I gathered that. Hm, different strokes.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I keep that problem at bay by using a 3rd grade vocabulary.

        Seriously though, I have a love hate relationship with full justification.

      • DEG

        vi gets the job done.

      • slumbrew
      • DEG

        Nice!

      • slumbrew

        I’ll note that I use VSCode, like some kind of Millennial.

  6. Tundra

    Confirmed.

    PutridMeat hates grandmas.

    Great job, though. Really, really well done!

    • PutridMeat

      I have long ago decided that if anyone brings the “hate/kill grandma” thing up in debates (unlikely, people don’t like to talk to me about this stuff – I assume it’s the content of my speech and not the putrid odor of decaying flesh) my response will simply be: “Yes. I want to kill grandma. There’s nothing I get more pleasure from than watching old people die slow painful deaths. Now can we dispense with statements that are designed only to shut down debate and ‘shame’ me into accepting your statements without daring to object and move on to addressing the actual points I’ve put forward?” Some how, I suspect that will be just as effective as the above letter…

      • R C Dean

        Or, “Both my grandmothers are dead. Don’t even think about lecturing me about losing a grandmother.”

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I’m glad mine aren’t here to see this (though one would have liked or even loved Trump).

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Janie: Are you going to marry a carrot, Lisa?
        Lisa: [Rolling her eyes] Yes, I’m going to marry a carrot.
        Sherri/Terri: Ohh! She admitted it. She’s going to marry a carrot!

        https://frinkiac.com/caption/S07E05/1035183

      • Agent Cooper

        “I don’t want to kill any old grandmother. Just yours.”

      • Agent Cooper

        Or …

        “Only if it gets me one step closer to the inheritance.”

      • Ted S.

        My response is going to be that the house arrest supporters want the increased suicide rate among young people, the increased impoverishment of the working class, increased domestic violence, and so on and so on.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        But the glaziers have income! (What tailors, where?)

  7. Fourscore

    Excellent writing, Mr Putrid, You said everything that needs to be said, I wish you luck and I hope it went to your local rag for publication.

    “If it saves one life” even at the cost of dozens more is political crap and the dumbasses never get called called out.

    You done good, unfortunately there isn’t enough lamp posts for all the irresponsible individuals that need an airing out

    • Gadfly

      “If it saves one life” even at the cost of dozens more is political crap and the dumbasses never get called called out.

      It truly is a reflection of the widespread failure to properly assess risk. If we were to consistently apply the “if it saves one life” metric, society would come to a halt. In the US, there are over 5,000 work related deaths per year, nearly 40,000 traffic deaths per year, and it is claimed by prestigious medical institutions that up to 250,000 people die per year from medical error. Does this mean we should stop working, stop driving, and stop going to the hospital? If it would save one life, yes. But that is foolish, as it ignores the other side of the ledger. Life is inherently dangerous, this does not mean we should stop living.

  8. Animal

    “Dear Mayor/Governor/Asshole:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    No law means no fucking law.

    Go die in a fire.

    Best regards,
    Animal.”

    • Akira

      Well in all fairness, most of these bullshit measures are not laws at all but just diktats that exceed even the emergency powers given to governors in the state constitutions.

      • juris imprudent

        Well those powers are reserved for normal emergencies, not a horrid disease that only 99.9% of people infected survive.

      • grrizzly

        These powers come from the enthusiastic compliance by the population. I no longer blame the government, I blame the people.

      • Grosspatzer

        “We have met the enemy, and he is us”

        /Some cartoonist from a long time ago

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        He has a Podcast Daily,

      • rhywun

        the emergency powers given to governors in the state constitutions

        And this is why everything is a “crisis” now.

  9. CPRM

    OT Timer go BRRRRRRRRRRR:

    Those racists at TOS have deplatformed Shika for sucking at her job being a darkie who didn’t like Drumpf! That’s why it’s so #Sad they let a #WhiteSupremacist like Remy make videos.

    • Threedoor

      Did they finally get rid of that commie?

    • CPRM

      She is so fucking annoying…I can’t even! This is how Democracy a Republic dies.

    • J. Frank Parnell

      She really has that “teacher who gets caught blowing a couple of 14yo students” vibe.

    • Plisade

      “Wri.in affi David”

      She’s different.

  10. mrfamous

    Why do you want to kill grandma?

    • mrfamous

      More seriously, good stuff Mr. Meat

    • Plinker762

      He probably has a big inheritance from her.

  11. Fourscore

    Just got a call from a mutual friend, my other oldest friend really bought into the crap a year ago and self isolated himself and his wife. A couple months ago his wife had a heart attack and some stents installed. The call this morning was that yesterday she’d had a mini-stroke, was airlifted to Mpls. She is obese, diabetic and has other physical problems. It ain’t the -19, it’s the calendar, taking its toll. They have hunkered down for almost a year, to no avail.

    ‘Course, the explanation “Well, we don’t know what would have happened if we didn’t” will probably be heard.

    • CPRM

      Like I said in the last thread, the time stolen from people is the thing that disgusts me the most. I spent the last 6 months of my dad’s life being upset about a business dispute. That time lost inspires more anger in me than the money I did actually loose.

      • DEG

        the time stolen from people is the thing that disgusts me the most.

        #metoo

    • DEG

      I hope your friend’s wife pulls through.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Those guys are badass,

      • ron73440

        ^^ Yes they are.

        I saw them in Feb right before everything turned stupid.

        They closed with this and I’m surprised I didn’t hurt myself stomping. (Alcohol may have been involved.)

    • DEG

      Excellent. Thanks!

    • robc

      I have a 32 oz of Hefeweizen waiting for me this evening. Not a big fan of Crowlers, but not complaining either.

      • Nephilium

        I prefer the crowlers to the howlers and growlers.

      • robc

        Agreed. Growlers require sharing, Crowlers are preferable to glass in every way. I would just prefer two pint cans.

      • Nephilium

        Growlers require sharing

        Rarely, usually I’m going through them myself in the house. I’ve seen a couple of places that use the crowler machine to seal pint cans on demand as well.

  12. Rebel Scum

    Serious news for serious people.

    The Post is asking every Republican member of Congress the same three questions today. We will report back their answers.

    1. No, the official election has not taken place.
    2. Yes because fuck you cheating cuntes.
    3. Yes as he will have been technically elected by the electoral college. As an aside, and considering the last 4 years, are you fucking serious?

    • Pope Jimbo

      My official answer would be: “Fuck off, TMITE and I have no obligation to respond to your attempts to shape public opinion”

      But…

      1. No, the official election has not taken place.
      2. Yes. We have a system of rules governing our elections. Any attempt to deprive a candidate from availing himself of those rules is a serious abrogation of that candidates rights.
      3. Yes.

      Now for some turnabout. Please answer these questions for me:
      1. Will The Post use the FBI briefing Joe Biden on the results of their investigation into Hunter’s laptop as an excuse to write many articles trumpeting accusations that there is proof that the Chinese and Ukrainians have corrupted Joe?
      2. If Trump and his inner circle are discovered to have held a meeting in January to discuss not sharing information with the incoming Biden information, do you promise to barely cover it and if you do write a story make sure that it is hand waved away as no big deal?
      3. Will your editorial board blindly regurgitate any statement made by Devine Nunes that he has seen proof of Chinese collusion in the election?

    • robc

      “To be tied to the necessity of deciding for oneself is to be a slave to one’s will.”

      Gah.

      • Gadfly

        I mean, he’s not wrong. It’s just that I think most of us here would prefer to be slaves to ourselves than slaves to others, which is the alternative (and a frighteningly popular one, I might add).

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      “Cancel your own goddamn subscription.”

    • PutridMeat

      I wanted to go with “fuck off shit-stain” but figured that would get even less traction. Then my natural verbosity got out of hand and succinctness went out the window.

      • Pope Jimbo

        No worries. It was a good job.

    • Tres Cool

      Thanks for that, your eminence. Just got it from Amazon.

    • PutridMeat

      Nope, not yet. And I don’t expect one. It’s a useless gesture, but necessary if only for my remaining sanity.

      • ron73440

        Did it get printed?

      • Gadfly

        It got printed here, so that’s something.

    • kbolino

      I find it funny that the writer regrets it but the recipient took it to heart and embraced it.

      The world is a strange place.

  13. Rebel Scum

    Papers please.

    Here’s the card you’ll get when you eventually get the Covid-19 vaccine.

    Everyone will get a card “they can put in their wallet that will tell them what they had and when their next dose is due,” says Dr. Kelly Moore of the Immunization Action Coalition.

    Might as well call it the National Autoimmune Subordination Institution…

    • Pope Jimbo

      In milliseconds, what is your guess for how long it will take before the govt will require one of these cards for employment, access to govt buildings, purchasing a firearm and flying?

      • rhywun

        Between 0 and 1.

      • Surly Knott

        But much, much, closer to 0.

      • Pope Jimbo

        What is sad is that if I had said nanoseconds instead, your answers wouldn’t change.

      • Surly Knott

        You could have used fe to-, or even atto- seconds and my answer wouldn’t change.

      • Surly Knott

        *femto-
        Why are there typos only when I don’t proofread?

      • ron73440

        Some are comparing it to showing a driver license or registration, because no one except crazy people could object to that.

      • Jarflax

        See that little blob on depth finder? It’s the ship you refer to. It sailed, journeyed to distant ports, gathered a grand cargo, sailed again, hit a reef, sank, coral grew over it, lobsters and fish live out there lives on it, and it is never ever coming back.

      • ron73440

        I know, still pisses me off though.

      • ron73440

        See that little blob on depth finder? It’s the ship you refer to. It sailed, journeyed to distant ports, gathered a grand cargo, sailed again, hit a reef, sank, coral grew over it, lobsters and fish live out there lives on it, and it is never ever coming back.

        That did make me laugh though.

        It’s funny ’cause it’s true.

      • Q Continuum

        OK. How about voter ID?

      • ron73440

        Not sure, the driver license is asking the state for permission to drive, like a CHP is asking for permission to arm yourself.

        Voter ID is proving who you are to eliminate fraud.

      • Q Continuum

        I’m being sarcastic. I think it’s absurd to argue in favor of requiring ID for all that shit above and then have a fainting spell at the mention of voter ID.

      • ron73440

        Guess my sarcometer needs re calibrating.

        If we required in person voting with the indelible ink, no ID required?

      • mrfamous

        It’s not “absurd,” it’s perfectly rational. The Democratic party will pursue whatever policies are in their electoral interest. Consistency in said policies is not a requirement, just that they help the party.

      • Pope Jimbo

        I missed your point too Q. Sorry.

        Maybe Ron and I can get a groupon for getting our scarometers fixed.

      • Jarflax

        That is different because voting is a sacred right and requiring id disenfranchises minorities because it is racist to expect minorities to be capable of getting id. Democrat voters are too lazy or possibly dead to obtain id.

      • Gadfly

        Dead is a kind of lazy. They do call it the long nap.

      • Pope Jimbo

        Voter ID is totes racist in many states (including Sunny Minnesoda).

    • Mojeaux

      Mark of the Beast.

      I did hear a congresscritter say he wanted to link COVID relief checks to getting the vaccine. No vaccine = no check. I could reference that, but I’m lazy.

      • R C Dean

        So you just need to show your National Association of Zero Infection card?

        Or perhaps papers from the State Transmissibility Agency for Synthetic Immunity?

    • Agent Cooper

      In think you mean

      National
      Autoimmune
      Subordination
      Department

      • Jarflax

        I think you mean:
        National
        Subordination
        Department of
        Autoimmune
        Purity

      • Agent Cooper

        Yeah– I f-ed that up. And I am listening to The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich right now.

      • Tres Cool

        You know who else….oh, nevermind.

      • Rebel Scum

        English? Do you speak it?

    • Gadfly

      That card looks easier to forge than a driver’s license. The government is going to have to step up their game, or the people who make forgeries are going to have a booming business in fake cards. I guess they could tie it in to some sort of database and make it scanable, in which case the hackers will be the one with the business. Also, what ever happened to keeping medical information private? I thought employers et. al. were barred from asking questions about such things, but I could be wrong.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      FYI, they’ve been doing battlespace prep for this on social media for months. They used the orwellian term “behavior modification”. I don’t know if the IAC was directly involved, but other politically affiliated groups definitely were.

      I have an email sitting in a folder somewhere that outlines what they did at a high level. My company wasn’t too concerned when I flagged it, because it was “reputable people” doing it.

      • Rebel Scum

        used the orwellian term “behavior modification”

        These cuntes are being open and honest about their intentions. I guess that is something. Also, no tinfoil necessary.

  14. Grosspatzer

    Heretic! Burn the Heretic!

    Good stuff, I am totally stealing this if/when our local putzfuhrer mandates the wearing of the mask.

    • prolefeed

      #2.

    • DEG

      Face diaper for the opener? Fuck.

  15. R C Dean

    Bravo. Well written. This, in particular, is a pet peeve of mine:

    Note a ‘plausible’ mechanistic hypothesis put forward by yourself or an appointed bureaucratic ‘expert’ does not constitute evidence. That’s not how science works, it requires observation and data that demonstrate effect in a statistically significant manner. Note a ‘plausible’ mechanistic hypothesis put forward by yourself or an appointed bureaucratic ‘expert’ does not constitute evidence. That’s not how science works, it requires observation and data that demonstrate effect in a statistically significant manner.

    • Q Continuum

      I betcha think that sworn affidavits from hundreds of people testifying to witnessing fraud are “evidence” too eh tuff gai?

      DENIER

      • Not Adahn

        Only “credible accusations” are evidence. Preferably ones seared into a corpus collosum.

    • ron73440

      I can’t believe he had the hubris to question our leaders.

      They follow the science and only have our best interests at heart.

    • grrizzly

      That’s not how science works

      If the government, media and educated people all say that this is how science works then this is how science works.

      • Jarflax

        Science comes from the word to know. Therefore your skepticist view of science as an ongoing process is anathema to real science which is Platonic ideals of knowledge realized by the wise.

      • ron73440

        This whole “follow the science” being repeated ad nauseam reminds me of Hot Fuzz and “The greater good.”

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        me too!

      • ron73440

        Is there any science proving masks work? Narp!

        Are there any proven benifits to locking down our economy? Narp!

        Should we require masks and lockdown? *questioning voice…* Yarp!

      • ron73440

        *benefits* even

      • Gadfly

        Well, there’s one proven benefit to locking down the economy, from a certain point of view. It helps consolidate power.

    • Fatty Bolger

      But we made a model based on the hypothesis that says millions of lives will be saved which proves that the hypothesis is true!

      • R C Dean

        I actually said, in a meeting today about our new curfew, etc. being based on U of AZ models “Oh, so according to their model, their model is correct?”

        Y’all motherfuckers are going to get me fired, I swear.

      • Gadfly

        People have forgotten that models are not evidence, they are themselves hypotheses. Touting a model as proof is the same as touting a hypothesis as proof: anyone actual interested in science should laugh you out of the room.

      • kbolino

        Hear, hear. A model is just a fancy hypothesis. You still have to conduct the experiment.

  16. Not Adahn

    Goddamn you Covid-19! You’re interfering with my ability to send Christmas presents of delicious meats to my family and loved ones!

    WE ARE ONLY SHIPPING TO NY,NJ,CT,MA,VT,NH,ME,RI,PA,DE and MD DUE TO LOGISTICS PROBLEMS. WE ARE VERY SORRY FOR THIS ISSUE.

    • Not Adahn

      STEVE SMITH RUN SMOKEHOUSE WEBSITE, AND BY SMOKEHOUSE WEBESITE MEAN RAPE!

      • UnCivilServant

        Oh, Oscar’s. And every time I go near them I spend $70+ on food…

        Dammit, I just ordered holiday ham and cheese. Look what you made me do!

      • Not Adahn

        There is a surprising amount of great food in Warrensburg. Like these guys.

        Unfortunately, the shipping costs are more than the cheese being shipped.

      • UnCivilServant

        So expensive, the link hasn’t arrived yet.

      • Not Adahn

        Oscar’s. Their hams are in the top two I’ve found.

    • Gustave Lytton

      I have a package waiting in Nagoya for cargo space. 🙁

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      That’s not the virus. That’s Fredo the Elder’s doing.

    • slumbrew

      MA

      You can send me some delicious meat, if that would make you feel better.

      (that’s not gay slang. I don’t think.)

    • R C Dean

      I’m surprised that the medication seems to be having a persistent/permanent(?) effect.

    • Tres Cool

      I saw that kid drinking a piña colada at Trader Vic’s.

      • The Other Kevin

        His hair was perfect.

      • Ted S.

        Does the kid like getting caught in the rain, too?

    • ron73440

      The victims’ families filed multiple complaints in light of the incident, although two of the pharmacies involved were eventually exonerated.

      I can understand suing the company, but what is the pharmacy supposed to do?

      Take a sample of all the drugs that come in to verify the labels?

      • R C Dean

        I remember sampling all the drugs that came in.

        Actually, I kind of remember . . . .

      • ron73440

        My friend was home on propofol and came to work to return my copy of Adrenaline Mob”s CD.

        The next week he came back to work and was very sorry, he lost the CD.

        When I showed it to him and told him how I got it he didn’t believe me for a while.

        After that if either of us had a brain fart the other would do his best Rick James:”Propofol’s a hell of a drug.”

  17. DEG

    I like the letter.

  18. Sean

    https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2020/12/03/ninth-circuit-officer-sued-destroying-gun-collection/

    After Wright’s home was raided by police in 2004, he ended up pleading guilty to a single count of unlawful possession of an assault weapon, which a judge later reduced to a misdemeanor offense. Even after the case was resolved in court, however, the LAPD maintained possession of Wright’s gun collection. Eventually about 80 firearms were returned to Wright, but Det. James Edwards obtained an ex parte order in 2013 (nearly a decade after the guns had been seized) to melt down and destroy the remaining guns in the LAPD’s possession.

    That’s messed up.

    • kinnath

      That’s messed up.

      Par for the course.

    • ron73440

      That’s why I don’t understand the Gadsden flag/thin blue line types.

      Like this

      • Mojeaux

        Oh, that’s just offensive.

      • Tundra

        Ah, yes. Those brave heroes of law enforcement who, when my city was burning, stood down.

        But plenty happy to arrest restaurant owners and churchgoers.

        Fuck them.

    • Tres Cool

      “…obtained an ex parte order in 2013 (nearly a decade after the guns had been seized) to melt down and destroy the remaining guns in the LAPD’s possession.”

      Suuuuuuure he did. $5 says they’re in some cop’s house/car at the moment.

      • kbolino

        Destroy some to CYA, keep the rest.

    • Tres Cool

      “…Wright is seeking $4.8-million from the c̶i̶t̶y̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶f̶i̶c̶i̶a̶l̶s̶ taxpayers and insurers named in his lawsuit..”

      Fixed it.

    • Gadfly

      It’s most likely what it’s always been: strange natural phenomena or secret experimental technology.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Swamp gas from a weather Balloon, reflecting off of the Full Moon?

    • Tundra

      Excellent.

    • Sean

      ⬅️

    • ron73440

      That is awesome!

    • ron73440

      Everything is Stupid! Sung to the Lego Movie’s Everything is Awesome!

    • R C Dean

      They uglied it up with the hot pink(?) on the handle, that’s for sure.

    • ron73440

      That’s nice, I have a CZ clone, the Baby Eagle in .45 and it shoots every bit as good as my S&W 1911. Except for the DA first shot.

      That being said, holy crap that’s expensive.

      • Not Adahn

        Considering a regular 97B is $700, wtf did they do to this one? Pre-Cajunize it?

      • Not Adahn

        Yup.

        Sadly, this was not a CZ 10mm factory gun, but happily, this was an available pistol to order from CZ Custom, aka Ghost Products.

        So this is a CZ in the same way that a Hayes Custom is a Rock Island Tac-Ultra.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      No

      Yes

  19. R C Dean

    Putrid: that letter sure sounds like it could have been written here in Tucson. The particulars line up quite well.

  20. slumbrew

    I think I need to turn in my Libertarian Shit-Lord card, since I just completed my Global Entry interview. I am ever-closer bound to the State.

    (The Man already had my fingerprints on file from when I used to handle live securities when I worked at banks, so no change there).

    A mere 51 weeks after paying for it, it’s now official.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      How did it go? What did they ask (or do you have a link to the standard Qs)?

      • slumbrew

        Easy-peasy, less than 10 minutes. Not sure how much was just general interest vs. formal questions – “do you travel a lot, what do you do for work”, etc. I got a some concern when I responded “yes” to “have you ever been fingerprinted before” – he was concerned it was arrest-related vs. the aforementioned banking.

        Then we talked about watches for a while (he had a good-looking Alpina on, I just got a new watch a couple days ago).

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Grazie.

    • grrizzly

      That will help you so much with international travel these days. LOL. I renewed my NEXUS card in the summer of 2019 with an interview in Montreal. Super useful given the Canadian border is closed since March.

      • slumbrew

        Yeah, yeah, I know. I’m not using it anytime soon. I’m not even using the bundled TSA Pre, since my wife refuses to fly right now.

        I paid for it in November of 2019 (well, my credit card company did), finally got an appointment.

        Someday…

    • R C Dean

      I’ve been in limbo since I submitted my app in February(?). The Tucson office hasn’t been doing interviews. I have to travel internationally twice a year (well, in non-stupid times) and the clusterhump at customs as we tried to gather up our offshore board members led to a “recommendation” that we all get Global Entry.

      • slumbrew

        I applied Dec 20, 2019. I got conditional approval October, 27th and today was the first appointment I could get.

        So I exaggerated – it was a mere 50 weeks.

        I contemplated driving to Rhode Island for an interview, Logan was so solidly booked, but some just opened up; I read today that they tend to release more days on the 1st of the month (which doesn’t help if they’re not even doing interviews).

        They’re doing interviews on the spot as you return from overseas, if you’re conditionally approved – that might help if you’re not flying directly to Tucson.

  21. ron73440

    General Question:

    Would anybody be interested if I wrote an article about rebuilding the steering on my truck and a few other things I’ve done to her lately?

    *looks sadly in the garage and sees her with a leaky power steering hose and bad axle seal*

    • kinnath

      yes

      • kinnath

        We’re all going to need to know this stuff in the “after times”.

      • Jarflax

        We need one of our more scary Glibs to write us a series on guerilla warfare.

    • slumbrew

      Yes, I’m always interested in any manly articles. It’s a nice contrast from my effete IT lifestyle.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      I wouldn’t get it, but yes. Does she have a name?

      • ron73440

        No name, but my wife calls her the other wife.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Sure,

    • Threedoor

      Death wobble?

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Still partial Judas Priest’ version, this is pretty OG cool though,

      • ron73440

        Agreed, on both counts.

        It blew my mind when I heard the original version.

  22. Suthenboy

    I am late to the party.

    PutriMeat made an attempt to be reasonable with people who have no such intention.

    My letter would have been “I go where and when I decide. If you don’t like it come and kiss me on the whitest part of my ass.”

    Ask anyone that knows me.