Friday Afternoon Links

by | Jan 8, 2021 | Daily Links | 571 comments

Let's argue about things that matter xD

We had some pineapple on our meatlovers pizza the other day… and it was not the worst.

Let’s argue about something contentious, shall we? What’s your standard? 10%, 15%, 20%? Depends on the service entirely?

This isn’t about the magpies who flock around my deck every morning for their breakfast, but it’s still pretty neat.

Thinking you might try to frame your twin for the perfect crime? Think again!

It was a different time, but this was pretty fascinating to me.

It’s wholesome all the way down here.

Local news that reads like national news. Some bonus local news, while I’m at it, too. (Btw, in case you forgot about Gianforte and the reporter…)

Let’s keep it light with the music, eh?

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Riven

[riv-uhn] noun 1. a gaming, lifting, shooting, intoxicated, ravenous, and happily-taken nerd. 2. often aims to misbehave. 3. and though she be but little, she is fierce.* And rumor has it that she (and her husband) are also delightful dinner companions. You didn't hear it from me, though.

571 Comments

  1. Rebel Scum

    We had some pineapple on our meatlovers pizza the other day… and it was not the worst.

    *faints*

    • Brochettaward

      Leave the Firsting to the pro’s next time.

      • Agent Cooper

        Leave the correct usage of apostrophes to the professionals next time.

      • Tres Cool

        Find me a pro @ firsting, and Ill let xe/xer know.

        You’re spare parts, bud.

      • Not Adahn

        Her name is Hailey, she charges $300/hr typically, but that service is extra.

      • Brochettaward

        A seconder like you shouldn’t even deign to consume the same oxygen as me.

      • SDF-7

        Oxygen? Shouldn’t you only be breathing the First Element and exist in a pure H2 environment?

    • Riven

      I was just as shocked as you are!

    • Certified Public Asshat

      2. often aims to misbehave

      She warned us, but I never thought it would go this far.

    • EvilSheldon

      Heh-heh-heh. *taps fingers together menacingly*

      This is almost as much fun as getting white women hooked on the reefer…

      • Chipwooder

        Man, you ARE evil!

      • EvilSheldon

        This is pretty much my life’s ambition.

    • Hyperion

      That’s like you saying you had some broccoli on your pizza and it wasn’t the worst. Of course it was the worst! The only way it could have been worse is if you had both broccoli AND pineapple on your pizza at the same time!

      Now, I like Broccoli and pineapple, just not on pizza.

      • Tonio

        Next you’ll say that white pizza isn’t real pizza…

      • Hyperion

        No, I’d never say that. Most pizza in Brazil is white, so I’m used to it. Of course that IS racist, but I don’t care.

      • Cowboy

        Yeah, but what Brazilians call pizza should be classified as a war crime.

        Romeu e Julieta *shudders*

      • Hyperion

        They have American, Italian, Portuguese, and their own style pizza.

        Fuck off, Tulpa.

      • Cowboy

        How can I be Tulsa if I’m actually DONDEERRRRROOOOOOOOO?

        But seriously no, I’m a long time lurker, you and I spoke at TOS way back when. I married a woman I met when I lived down in Bahia. At the time we were just engaged and working through the all the documentation. I just got tired of lurking and decided to post. Thing have gotten too ridiculous lately and I want to make my voice heard.

        Stroganoff belongs nowhere near a pizza.

      • pistoffnick

        All Pizzas Matter – APM

      • Hyperion

        Not white pizzas, you racist!

      • SDF-7

        Sounds like you’ve been watching Food Network where the “pizza is just a canvas for your flavor portrait” or whatnot…

      • Hyperion

        I only watch Food Network and History channel to see what the space aliens are currently up to.

      • Hyperion

        It’s aliens all the way down.

  2. The Late P Brooks

    With COVID-19 cases steadily declining in Yellowstone County, Health Officer John Felton on Thursday rescinded all local public health orders, effective immediately.

    The county must still follow the existing governor’s health order, enacted by former Gov. Steve Bullock in November, which currently limits restaurants, bars, breweries, distilleries and casinos to 50% capacity and require they close at 10 p.m., and applies a mask mandate to indoor public spaces and large outdoor gatherings to all of Montana’s 56 counties.

    Gov. Greg Gianforte said on Tuesday he planned on rescinding the statewide mask mandate in the coming weeks and would revisit other measures that close bars and restaurants, and limits gatherings in the coming days.

    “Some guidance and directives will be revised. Others will be removed entirely. Our goal is to make these new directives and guidance very clear,” Gianforte said Tuesday.

    Felton said he did not plan on implementing a local mask mandate, should the state mandate be lifted, and would follow Gianforte’s policies for the time being “out of respect for Gov. Gianforte’s authority to manage the pandemic according to his policies.”

    Domestic terrorism.

  3. Rebel Scum

    What’s your standard?

    10% for poor service. 15% for mediocre. 20% for good.

    • R C Dean

      20% default. Occasionally go higher or lower, depending on the hawtness service. All amounts rounded for my convenience.

      • Rebel Scum

        Look at Mr. Moneybags. But I do typically round up to the next dollar.

      • R C Dean

        Well, I eat out mostly at bars, burger or pizza joints. I get a bill for more than $40/head, all in, pretty rarely. Mostly when vacationing with Mrs. Dean.

      • DEG

        #metoo

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yep that is where I start and then go from there.

      • Swiss Servator

        This. I have been tipping heavier during the ‘vid. My checks have kept on coming, others are more on the margins. I am trending toward default 25% and up.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      15-18% ish for average service. Good service, I’ll push it above 20%. Bad service, I’ll push it down near 10%.

    • Master JaimeRoberto (royal we/us)

      Sales tax in my county is 9.25%. I usually double the sales tax and round up or down a little. So on average about 18.5%.

      • Master JaimeRoberto (royal we/us)

        And during the lockdowns I’ve been more generous in order to help out the wait staff.

    • Enough About Palin

      50-100+% on the total bill including tax. Do that consistently and everywhere you frequent you’ll be treated like a king. Also, I used to cook in restaurants and have witnessed all of the shitty customer horror stories, so that factors in too. Cheap as hell with everything else.

      • Swiss Servator

        Dude… I’d treat you like a king too!

    • bacon-magic

      0% for poor
      10% for carryout
      15% for delivery
      20% for dine-in

      • But Enough About [this space intentionally left blank]

        I’ve spent the last nine months learning how to re-create all my favourite carry-out in my own kitchen. My orange beef, for example, is better than any I’ve had in a Chinese restaurant. Carry-out’s all but dead to me now.

        For everything else, it’s normally GST (5%) x 3, unless I get spectacular service (which I haven’t had in years). I have modified my tipping to go higher during the Commie Cough.

    • DrOtto

      20% on the after tax amount and I usually round up to next dollar. I find we get seated promptly and treated well at most of our regular places and they usually pour the wife a fuller glass of wine as well. You have to really fuck up to get me to 15%. I also almost never vary from the menu item other than the occasional “hold the mushrooms”. The wife on the other hand almost always alters her order.

      • Fourscore

        So seldom go out with all the BS but I’m in the Dr’s neighborhood for the reasons others have said.

  4. Agent Cooper

    I, for one, welcome our Motown robot overlords!

  5. leon

    I understood about 2% of that twins article.

    • Enough About Palin

      “researchers in Iceland”

      Full disclosure: Their test subjects, being Icelandic, are already genetic freaks to begin with, so…

    • Chipwooder

      How long before the Bee gets banished from social media?

    • The Other Kevin

      I’m trying to guess what the first thing our Dem overlords will do. I’m guessing restricting speech, because it will be much easier to do all the other stuff when you can get someone kicked off the internet or arrested if they dare to say anything against you.

      • Chipwooder

        Didn’t they already say gun control is their top priority?

      • Sean

        I spent $400+ on extra boating accessories yesterday.

      • Tonio

        What you did there, I sees it I does.

      • DEG

        Going by the summaries, I think HR 121, 130, and 167 are slam dunks for the Dems along with the possibility of a resurrection of the AWB.

        HR 30 will probably get through, especially if there are lots of grifting opportunities.

        HR 125 will probably get through.

        HR 127 might be a bit too far.

        I guess I gotta buy more stuff.

      • Sean

        They don’t have to do anything about that. Big tech has them covered.

        Twitter & Facebook is clearing house as we speak.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Big tech has too much power, but they also need to censor the people I don’t like.

      • Tonio

        They don’t have to restrict speech, TOK. Their lapdog social media companies can have the same net effect.

      • The Other Kevin

        I see that. Any any objections would be met with a big yawn. So I guess gun control it is.

      • bacon-magic

        ^^^ spot on Tonio

      • C. Anacreon

        I still think they’re going to go after Fox News hosts like Tucker Carlson.

        Watch them pass some law along the lines of “Lies Aren’t Free Speech”.

        Fox can decide either to parrot every other news outlet, or be forced out of business by Biden-appointed “fact checkers”.

        The case goes to the Supreme Court, where Roberts and Kavanaugh join the liberal wing to vote against Fox in time to make the rounds at DC cocktail parties that evening.

        Since everyone is reporting the same news anyway, all the networks then join together to form a single source of news, which they title “Truth”.

      • Cowboy

        The new name needs to have a more “sacred” feel to it, somethingthat commands Respect, maybe a title like “The Ministry of Truth.” That has a nice ring to it.

      • Gadfly

        While going after fundamental rights is definitely on the docket, the first thing they will do is obviously raid the treasury. They’ve already promised more checks to the people, and you just know they are going to use the opportunity to feather their nests and pay off their buyers…I mean, donors.

      • Hyperion

        We already have the answer. See: Merrick Garland as AG = GET THEM GUNZ!

        That’s always the first duty of a new communist regime. ALWAYS. Prove me wrong.

  6. WTF

    Standard tip for me us 20%. Really good service/experience gets 30%. Although my Covid standard tip has gone up to 30% because I feel bad for the restaurant workers.

  7. Not Adahn

    I swear growing up that 15% was the standard, but everyone pretends it’s 20% now.

    I spent too much time waiting table to undertip. Plus, I overtip when I’m alone to make up for the space I’m occupying. If I try a newly-opened restaurant/bar I’ll try and see if I can figure out what the planned PPA is for the place to see what my frequency of visiting can be.

    Indie restaurant owners love the fuck out of me.

    • Chipwooder

      15% was absolutely the standard.

      The one exception I make is at buffets. All you’re doing is bringing me drinks occasionally. I’m not tipping 15% for that.

      • Bobarian LMD

        Me too!

      • Hyperion

        I remember when 10% was the standard. Soon, it will be sign over your weeks pay to them, Then your property deed.

      • DrOtto

        I only eat at casino buffets, and usually comped. When I’m up, everybody gets a taste. When I’m down, I leave something, but not 15%

    • SDF-7

      I distinctly remember *10%* being the standard. Granted, since driving pizza in college I try to be generous unless you really screw up — but what a bunch of entitled babies to think that 20% is now the default. Sheesh.

      And I would have taken back the $5 for that waitress as well. What an idiot.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yes 10% was the acceptable tip amount at one point in time.

    • Swiss Servator

      I’m so old 10% used to be the standard….15% was for superior service.

      Then I worked at a Ponderosa Steakhouse…I started tipping higher from then on.

  8. limey

    Speaking of pineapple on pizza, I’d like to pimp my short piece of pineapple pizza erotica from the other day which I tapped out on a whim. I had to retire to my bunk after writing that. I don’t know how to link to a comment, but if anyone actually enjoyed that, I might be inspired to generate a forum thread.

    • db

      I think it was worthy of a recurring guest-writer spot on H&H: Expanded Universe.

  9. Rebel Scum

    Discovery is going to be fun.

    Dominion Voting Systems filed a lawsuit against pro-Trump attorney Sidney Powell on Friday for defamation after she alleged in numerous reports and interviews the company was tied to election fraud in the 2020 presidential election.

    • Drake

      Why would they do that? Do they think they just out-lawyer her and make it not worth it expense-wise?

      • Not Adahn

        It’s a SLAPP. The ol’ former anti-SLAPPers I’ve seen are giddy about it. Haven’t checked on Randazza.

      • WTF

        Do they not understand they will be subject to discovery?

      • Not Adahn

        The idea is to generate sufficient legal expenses before it gets to that point that they back down.

      • Swiss Servator

        Counter-complain and keep digging.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Who is the judge hearing the case?

      • SDF-7

        Judge Sullivan? He needs something to do now, right?

      • Urthona

        Because she’s full of shit and they will win?

  10. Tonio

    What, not this for a musical choice?

    • DEG

      Yes

  11. Bobarian LMD

    15% is the starting point. If all I get from wait-staff is the minimum that’s about where I stay. 20%+ for good & proper service.

  12. Akira

    Let’s argue about something contentious, shall we? What’s your standard? 10%, 15%, 20%? Depends on the service entirely?

    I’m lazy so I just throw down some amount of bills that I’m sure is at least 20%. Plus my mom waited tables at Red Lobster to put herself through law school while taking care of my brother and I, so I have a bit of a soft spot there. I’d rather give too much and make up for the people who don’t tip or withhold tips for frivolous reasons.

    The service would have to be exceptionally bad for me to deliberately calculate a low tip, and this has probably happened once or twice.

  13. Count Potato

    “”Great food, but almost no interactions were made with any of the waitresses other than being given the food, as you had to reserve your table position online in advance, as well as place your order online once finally seated (due to COVID safety measures).

    “The bill came out to be just about $30, and I tipped just a little above 15%, giving $5.”

    That’s fine, since she barely did everything.

    • Count Potato

      um, anything

  14. Chipwooder

    It still saddens me that this is what Balko turned out to be

    Radley Balko
    @radleybalko
    Dear God, this video. Seems pretty clear that if they’d come upon the right member of Congress, that member would be dead.
    11:26 AM Jan 8, 2021

    • Drake

      What an ass. If it was BLM, half the Dems in Congress would have come out to meet them.

    • WTF

      “Seems pretty clear that my prejudices will be confirmed no matter what I see.”

      Christ, what an asshole.

    • R C Dean

      Yet the only body to hit the ground was a protestor (rioter, if you insist). Unarmed. Shot through a locked and barricaded door. I remember the Radley who would have been all over that. I miss that Radley.

      I would love to read an article making the case that the worst thing that happened yesterday was the murder of a woman in the Capitol. Not some minor vandalism, not the disruption of official business for a few hours, but the actual, unjustified killing of a human being.

      • Chipwooder

        But she was a bad person, so it’s OK.

      • WTF

        Seems pretty clear that’s Radley’s take on it.

      • Chipwooder

        Yep.

        I should be past being surprised by this shit, but Balko’s reporting (back when he was worth a shit) is what opened my eyes to the reality of abusive, killer cops. There are a ton of cops in my extended family and I was raised in a very back-the-blue environment. It was a major evolution for me to accept that there are a ton of worthless cops out there, and many more “good cops” who do nothing about them. So it is immensely disappointing to me personally to see what a worthless leftist asskisser he became.

      • leon

        She was a Nazi, and so she deserved it. Nazi’s aren’t Humans./ No shit, a take i read on Twitter this morning from a blue-checkmarked person.

      • R C Dean

        That reminds me, I should cycle my mags when I get home.

  15. Not Adahn

    Is writing a newspaper story about a reddit post lower than writing one about a tweet?

    • rhywun

      Yes.

  16. Rebel Scum

    Honk honk.

    In a long statement, Pelosi said she made the drastic call to Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley as pressure mounts for Trump to step down or be removed from office via the 25th Amendment after the deadly US Capitol siege.

    “This morning, I spoke to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley to discuss available precautions for preventing an unstable president from initiating military hostilities or accessing the launch codes and ordering a nuclear strike,” Pelosi (D-Calif.) wrote.

    • Tonio

      I bet that was a fun convo since he really doesn’t report to her. But she can now go on record as having DONE SOMETHING.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Yes, openly conspired as part of a military coup. And nothing else happened.

    • Gustave Lytton

      “This morning, I conspired (again) to subvert the established constitutional powers and undermine the legitimate civilian control of the military.”

    • The Other Kevin

      I have a teammate who’s a never-Trumper, and this week on FB he came unglued and called for the 25th Amendment. Someone asked why, and he said Trump might start a war in the next week.

      I like the guy too much to troll him, but I was very tempted to respond, “Why would he start a war? His last name isn’t Bush.” /mic drop

    • Enough About Palin

      Did she also mention preventing Trump from releasing all of the gorillas in our zoos or Trump branding the name Trump on the foreheads of all new born baby girls? Because those things are possible too.

    • westernsloper

      She is afraid what he will declassify. That is the only thing that makes sense about this nonsense. *makes prayer hands and looks to the heavens* Please lord let me be right.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    Killed by MAGA mob!

    Brian Sicknick wanted to be a police officer “his entire life.”

    The South River, New Jersey, native joined the New Jersey Air National Guard as a means to that end. He served in post-9/11 Operations Enduring Freedom and Desert Shield, and worked for the 108th Air Refueling Wing at New Jersey’s Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst.

    But, at just 42 years old, he was killed defending the country’s beacon of democracy when a pro-Trump mob tried to overtake the Capitol building on Wednesday.

    “Brian is a hero and that is what we would like people to remember,” his older brother, Ken Sicknick, said in a statement to The Daily Beast, adding that the “direct causes” of his brother’s injuries were unknown and the family didn’t want his death to be made “a political issue.”

    ” defending the country’s beacon of democracy”

    WTF? A high school girl would be too ashamed to write that for her school paper.

    • Chipwooder

      Didn’t he die of a heart attack? This is like when they kept trying to include the two state troopers who died in a helo crash during the Charlottesville business as “casualties”.

      • Rebel Scum

        We must inflate the numbers to support the narrative, comrade.

    • limey

      The dome of delegation,the gallery of grandstanding, and the offices of outsourcing, where the nation’s lawmakers pawn off their responsibilities on the other two branches of government?

    • Akira

      But, at just 42 years old, he was killed defending the country’s beacon of democracy when a pro-Trump mob tried to overtake the Capitol building on Wednesday.

      adding that the “direct causes” of his brother’s injuries were unknown

      With the second part in mind, I’m not sure how the first part is not false or unsubstantiated. You don’t say someone “was killed” if they died of a pre-existing medical condition while some other event was going on.

    • Tonio

      In a cruel twist, Sicknick was a Trump supporter himself, according to a former Nancy Pelosi staffer, who told The Washington Post that she bonded with the officer despite their opposing views.

      JHTFC, the spinning the narrative to the noblesse oblige of the Pelosi staffer towards the deplorable…

      Also, not all Trump supporters supported this action.

    • Bobarian LMD

      ??? 42?

      Served in Desert Shield? Which was in 1991? When he was 12 or 13?

      Probably OIF/OEF.

      My crusty ass was a 2LT when Desert Shield happened.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yeah but what do you expect from reporters? To get things straight and facts right? The man lied about his age to fight for Democracy Bob!

      • Chipwooder

        I’m 44 and I was a freshman in high school went Desert Storm went down.

      • Swiss Servator

        You too, eh? Congrats for being old, like me.

      • westernsloper

        Desert Storm was in ’91. Desert Shield was the last bull shit.

      • db

        I thought Desert Shield came first–it was the initial response to Saddam’s invasion of Kuwait, ostensibly intended to protect neighboring countries from further aggression. Then Desert Storm was the invasion and liberation of Kuwait and the invasion of Iraq.

      • westernsloper

        A quick DDG says yes you are correct. I forgot the Shield part. It happened prior to my joining and getting the hell hole stationing of Key West FL. I misspoke. I do it often.

      • Brochettaward

        What was wrong with Key West?

    • rhywun

      WTF? A high school girl would be too ashamed to write that for her school paper.

      Until she learns that’s exactly what the Daily Beast hires for.

    • Agent Cooper

      There is a federal murder case opened for him.

      Nary a peep about a murder case for Ashli.

  18. Brochettaward

    We have some cheap tippers around here. 30% or go home.

    • Not Adahn

      But how much do you tip per song at a strip club?

      • Brochettaward

        I never pay for strippers.

      • Tres Cool

        ‘Cause you’re a homo. Duh.

      • bacon-magic

        Can’t wait to see the tik tok videos on this

      • bacon-magic

        Squirrrrrrrrelllllllsss!!

      • Unreconstructed

        Interesting question – that’s probably the only place I can think of where inflation hasn’t totally blown up the prices in the last 20+ years. Well, the drink prices yeah, but not the service fees…

      • DrOtto

        Probably because the price of cocaine has come down in real dollars during the same time period.

    • Certified Public Asshat

      Brochettaward is a big time tipper at the Dennies.

      • Not Adahn

        He likes being First to dinner, especially wen they open at 4:00.

      • Brochettaward

        What kind of shit hole do you live in where there isn’t a 24 hour Denny’s? Not my America.

  19. DEG

    By 4 months old, the fledgling ravens were already cognitively comparable to adult primates—especially with respect to problem solving abilities. The ravens understood quantities, grasped causation, and showed social learning on par with the formerly studied apes.

    So…. smarter than the average Congresscritter.

    snapping a bunch of cute photos of the fluffy stray cats gratefully sleeping away in their shelter.

    Awwww

    • Animal

      So…. smarter than the average Congresscritter.

      That’s setting the bar awfully low.

  20. Rebel Scum

    Fascinating.

    One of at least six individuals from the state of Michigan arrested in Washington, D.C. this week in connection with protests over the 2020 election wasn’t in our nation’s capitol to back Donald Trump, but to “keep an eye” on Trump supporters, according to his father.

    25-year old Logan Grimes was busted with a handgun, “high capacity” magazine, and “unregistered ammunition” on Wednesday afternoon about a 1 /2 miles from the Capitol, near the District’s Chinatown neighborhood. In an interview with the Detroit Free Press, Robert Grimes described his son as a “gun hobbyist” who’s always followed Michigan law, and blamed the president for his son’s arrest.

    “Now thanks to that man that I just despise, Donald Trump — who I did not vote for and did everything I could to make sure he would finally leave office — has served me up one last injustice by making sure my son got arrested so he could stick his pride out,” he said.

    • Chipwooder

      Hit the nail right on the head there – Donald Trump personally got your dipshit son arrested. IS THERE NO END TO THE MAN’S MENDACITY????

    • SDF-7

      No danger of “toxic masculinity” with a person being responsible for their own actions there, I see…. We’d sicken the pioneers and frontiers-folk who actually built this country. Barf.

    • Tonio

      I can’t really blame him if that part of DC is anything like it used to be.

  21. The Late P Brooks

    Seems pretty clear that if they’d come upon the right member of Congress, that member would be dead.

    What’s really weird is I have not heard anything at all about Members of Congress being anything other than inconvenienced.

    • Chipwooder

      Nope, but people were mean to Mittens and Miss Lindsey.

    • Rebel Scum

      It was an assault on America’s sacred temple of Democracy.

    • C. Anacreon

      What’s really weird is I have not heard anything at all about Members of Congress being anything other than inconvenienced.

      Yes, their entire day was actually super easy, barely an inconvenience.

    • DrOtto

      I had to turn off NPR today due to some of the interviews of congress/staffers afraid for their life. It was pathetic.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    Didn’t he die of a heart attack?

    I have no idea. This morning there was something about a cop who had a stroke. Did that get memoryholed, too?

    • leon

      BACK THE BLUE GOSH DAMNIT!!!!

      • Viking1865

        Yeah its time for the Democrats to put up their RESIST!!! and SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER!!!! signs and Support Our Wonderful President. It’s time for the Republicans to drag out their Gadsen Flags and and stop saying “Respect the President’s authority.”

      • Chipwooder

        Speaking of Gadsden……at DMV we have been inundated with people screaming that the Gadsden flag plates are INCITING TERRORISM AND MUST BE ELIMINATED!

      • leon

        If they were black more people would have died!/ Wistful bloodlust

    • Not Adahn

      At least they retracted “got hs head bashed in with a fire extinguisher” story from earlier.

  23. Gadfly

    Let’s argue about something contentious, shall we? What’s your standard? 10%, 15%, 20%? Depends on the service entirely?

    He was entirely justified in taking back the tip. No one is owed a specific tip amount (or any at all), and if you act like an ass (as the waitress did) you don’t deserve anything.

    Also, my tipping depends not only on the service but also on the price of the food I’m eating. I tip larger percentages for good service when the bill is smaller, and vice versa, as I don’t feel that a waiter deserves more just because the food is more expensive or deserves less just because it is cheaper.

  24. Unreconstructed

    Having been a waiter and a bartender, I have trouble tipping less than 20%. And yes, Not Adahn, 15% was the standard – but I’m still going 20% for reasonable service. Now, I *am* a bit less understanding of poor service, and so a drop to 15% isn’t unheard of – but the quality of the service isn’t dependent on the kitchen or the bar, and yes, I’m paying attention.

    • Not Adahn

      When I came to New York I was appalled at how bad the service was compared to what I was used to as front-of-the-house in Houston. I used to count how many firing offenses I’d see before I got to my table.

      • Unreconstructed

        Damn…that is sad. Of course I still have such major disdain for waitstaff that has to shop the food…my first “real” job waiting tables, wearing shorts and bright pink shirts at a Mexican food joint on the Kemah waterfront, we were taught a system that let anyone deliver food to any table without a single question about who had what. Basic professionalism.

      • DEG

        I used to count how many firing offenses I’d see before I got to my table.

        I used to do something similar at grocery stores after I moved to New England.

    • Don escaped Two Corinthians

      I’m on a similar boat.

      15% was standard forever.

      Most of my tips are in the 30% range, but that’s because I tend to patronize only the places with excellent service. Half my meals are at my pizza shop, so it’s not a big bill anyway, but they see me drive past, park on the corner, and walk up to the shop and they come out on the sidewalk with my brand of beer before I get to my favorite table and sit down . . . and they keep them coming without being asked.

      And now they’re limping along and all I can do it order takeout, and I still give ’em the full tip because why not. What’s money for if not loyally supporting the best crew in town. I need these guys next year and the year after that, so a certain amount of stretch is in order because I’ve got it.

      What others do is none of my business.

      • Not Adahn

        Not to get all “according to their needs,” but I also do try to be cognizant of what the average table is in the place I’m going. If I’m taking up a 4 top, not only am I not eating 4 entrees, I’m not getting the accompanying drinks/appetizers/desserts/coffees. Sometimes I use that as an excuse to go nuts on my bar bill, but usually I’ll just have a tip that seems oddly high percentage-wise, but it right in line with what the waiter would be pocketing for the amount of time I was holding that table.

      • Don escaped Two Corinthians

        “according to their needs”

        I’m not lecturing, for any lurker: Being decent is a personal agenda, and it sounds like most of us agree. Marx, on the other hand, wanted Top Men to decide for us who needed what and then take our money to fund those decisions: apples and oranges. Our deciding for ourselves who we want to patronize and how is the entire point: get rid of government, and then just go out and do what you think is right with your person, your money, your profession, your firm. No one knows better what to do with my property and person than I do.

      • WTF

        I need these guys next year and the year after that, so a certain amount of stretch is in order because I’ve got it
        Yup. We’ve been paying our dog walker/sitter her normal weekly pay all year even though I’ve been working from home and have rarely needed her for the dogs. But neither my wife nor I have missed a paycheck, and we both make good money and we wanted to keep her going because she’s good and we will need her when the covid bullshit is over.

      • Swiss Servator

        Good on you, man. I try at my local to do the same.

      • Raven Nation

        English premiership rugby: Wasps 52 (7 tries)- Bath 44 (4 tries).

        A try every 11 minutes

  25. The Late P Brooks

    Who the fuck is Trump going to declare war on? The only realistic scenario i can think of would be sending a Delta Seal Beret Ninja squad to Sacramento to nab Newsom, and then seal the California border.

    • leon

      It has nothing to do with logic or reality. it’s about throwing it out there so that what they do has some feel of urgency and need.

      • Ownbestenemy

        You mean the president doesn’t have instantaneous access to the nuclear launch codes while in his volcano bunker? Damn Hollywood always lyin to me.

    • Rebel Scum

      That would be so MAGA.

    • hayeksplosives

      Go on…

    • Hyperion

      Trump has failed to declare war, because the war is information. And he rejected any type help on that he could have had. And instead he surrounded himself with useless swamp scum like Barr.

  26. Lord Humungus

    Well the next 4 years will be interesting. I never thought the ship would go down so quickly but here we are.

    • leon

      All this 25th Amendment talk is just to prep the public for the ouster of Biden. / lol

      • Certified Public Asshat

        That would explain why Biden doesn’t seem to be completely comfortable with the idea.

      • R C Dean

        Biden isn’t getting the 25th. They aren’t going to publicly force him out. Once they cut their deal with Doktor First Lady Biden, he’s gone.

    • The Other Kevin

      I get pretty depressed thinking about the future. But I keep reminding myself, there are lots things that happened in the last few years that nobody saw coming. Granted, most were bad, but still, nobody predicted President Trump.

      • Viking1865

        From a policy POV, my issue is we’re counting on the oldest POTUS ever, a guy who is most likely senile, and an 80 year old Speaker and another old fuck MAjority Leader who are supposedly going to be holding back the radicals on stuff like student loan bailouts, Green insanity, direct racial repearations, etc.

        You know, that was the theory behind all the RINO traitors voting and supporting Biden: hes a moderate, come on man I’m not a socialist.

        Oh, and quite frankly, call me crazy, but what exactly is stopping some of these Young Turks from whipping up a mob of their own? They’ve been doing it all year.

      • Chipwooder

        Something I read earlier that made me laugh because it’s true: Biden is the season 1 version of Junior Soprano, when he’s the figurehead boss.

      • Lord Humungus

        yah – I don’t think populism, or whatever you want to call it, is dead. but it needs a better spokesman (or woman!) than Trump.

        I mean the US is already is garbage financial territory, a sort of “if you tax everyone, then you kill the economy. But if you keep printing $$$ then you end up in uncharted (we’re already there!) territory).

      • Viking1865

        When it comes to politics, votes count, sure but money counts for more. That’s why the Trumpy economics never got off the ground: because Trumps blue collar base has the enthusiasm and the willingness to vote, but they can’t fill campaign coffers. So its business as usual with immigration and trade because the people who do write the checks like cheap foreign labor and trade. Same thing on the Dem side, for now: their coffers are filled by Wall Street and Big Tech, who are perfectly happy to put all those icky gas and oil companies out of business, but have no interest in any kind of actual socialism stuff. But the other big funding source of Team Blue is the pubsec unions, and all the various ways the government launders cash to their supporters.

      • SDF-7

        I wouldn’t be so sure on the Big Tech side of things. There are a LOT of True Believers ™ in the tech corps. Not that they’d actually want it if it happens, but they sure think they want it.

      • Viking1865

        Yeah the Big Tech people have that very naive childlike view of things where economies are just like the code they write so you just need the write code writers and voila.

      • Master JaimeRoberto (royal we/us)

        I think Tulsi is positioning herself to be that spokewoman.

      • The Other Kevin

        I could get behind Tulsi. She’d probably slap me in the face though. /Benny Hill

      • The Other Kevin

        I remember how pissed I was (to put it mildly) when they pushed through Obamacare. I expect I’m going to perpetually feel like that for the next 2 years at least.

      • SDF-7

        Yeah… the “how the hell can they get away with this?” feeling I had then has been back for a month and will almost certainly keep building.

      • The Other Kevin

        I expect the hits will just keep comin’.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    I think we can assume Biden and Co will make an all out assault on independent contractors and do everything they can to unionize the entire labor force as quickly as possible.

  28. Nephilium

    2021 continues, with mostly peaceful protests in DC, and Zoom/Happy Hour/Tin foil origami. I’ll kick it off at 20:00 Eastern.

    • Tres Cool

      I’d be there, new TV and all, but the other overnights when Im not working were nothing but a sausage-fest. Or at the very least, sausage-FESTus.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Understood BH, Sup?
        Tall Cans?

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      I got a new webcam, haven’t checked the audio, be Forewarned!

    • DEG

      I will not be on tonight. Tomorrow night, if there is one, I can join.

    • westernsloper

      Tin foil origami.

      IT WAS A HAT!!

  29. Lord Humungus

    My Audio Research is finally back up and running – obligatory pic

    and I’m also working on restoring a frankenstein-ed Eico ST70, converting it to use 6AR6s.

    • But Enough About [this space intentionally left blank]

      Linky no worky!

  30. Certified Public Asshat

    Every libertarian that I’ve ever met couldn’t stop talking about how hot their mother was for her age. Like I’d ask them about the gold standard, and they’d say “My mom just stopped wearing thongs recently, but she’s only 46! She’s still got a great body!” Could be a coincidence.— Ray Kump (@RayKump) January 7, 2021

    I don’t get the joke, assuming this is a joke.

    • Rebel Scum

      I don’t get the joke

      Me neither.

    • SDF-7

      Assuming it isn’t — there’s another reason I’m not technically a libertarian, apparently.

      Apparently that person has just met Winston.

    • leon

      All libertarians are such incels that the resort to Odepesian fantasies?

    • Ownbestenemy

      Apparently libertarians are okay with incest now? Oh I get it, cause they say just legalize drugs and such. So it must also mean we don’t want laws or don’t find it morally objectionable (and detrimental to DNA) to boink your mother.

    • Lord Humungus

      EF has a nice bum, better than when she was a teenager. But working out and womanhood has a lot to do with that.

    • Master JaimeRoberto (royal we/us)

      Probably something along the lines of the mom being the only woman that libertarians talk to, or something like that.

    • Gdragon

      ““My mom just stopped wearing thongs recently”

      So she’s commando now?

    • Enough About Palin

      It’s called projection.

  31. Yusef drives a Kia

    Tipping is 15% unless you are exceptional, then you can make some bank from me, Service is everything,
    OTOH, takeout from my local Brewery? No….

    • rhywun

      My favorite is the tip jars for take-out now. Or food trucks. GTFO of here with that nonsense.

      • Sean

        I’ll tip for take out BBQ – a couple singles.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Is BBQ named Stacy with an I?

      • Sean

        My gf would murder me in my sleep.

      • Ownbestenemy

        You get off easy. Mine has explained in detail that half of mine is hers while staring at my crotch. Rusty tin-can lids don’t scare me.

      • SDF-7

        But then you’d just regenerate and save the galaxy wearing a vegetable…

      • Master JaimeRoberto (royal we/us)

        Careful not to get glitter on your hot link.

      • rhywun

        I’ll do that if I’m taking out from a restaurant that otherwise has (well, had) seating.

        Not if it’s take-out by design.

      • DEG

        I’ll do that if I’m taking out from a restaurant that otherwise has (well, had) seating.

        When NH restaurants were limited to take-out only, I tipped like I would if I was sitting there eating.

        The couple of times I got take-out after the Clown Prince allowed outdoor dining, I also tipped like I was sitting down.

  32. rhywun

    I double the exorbitant sales tax and round up. That usually works out to 18-20%.

    I can’t believe anyone didn’t side with that guy. The server never, ever questions a tip.

    Moreover, I would never eat at that place again.

    • Ownbestenemy

      This is why I never will work in the food service industry.

  33. Gadfly

    Thinking you might try to frame your twin for the perfect crime? Think again!

    That is cool. Identical twins don’t always have identical DNA. Learn something new every day.

  34. grrizzly

    20% of the before taxes check. Makes math easy.

  35. rhywun

    Daines insists his rhetoric didn’t contribute to insurrection

    I’m about fed up with this idea that people don’t have free will all of a sudden.

  36. kinnath

    20% then round up to an even dollar.

    I only pay cash.

    • Tonio

      ^This man is a true libertarian because he knows that most restaurants operate at least partially in the gray economy. Starve Leviathan!

    • Ownbestenemy

      If they were exceptional, absolutely they get a cash tip with the hopes they pocket it.

    • DEG

      I only pay cash.

      Same, except sometimes on the road I’ll use a credit card.

    • Swiss Servator

      Exactly – pay in credit, tip in cash. What I gift my server is between me and them, not the G.

    • SDF-7

      Swiss? Can we get some opera applause here for the spud?

      • Tonio

        Ahem. And I hate fan requests. But just this once…

    • leon

      From Joe Biden’s Generation?

    • Tonio

      [golf clap] for the onion bit.

      “Just twist up a fresh-cut onion in a hanky, Hon. And think about how much he left you.”

  37. EvilSheldon

    Minimum is nothing. If you’re surly, rude, or incompetent, I’m perfectly happy to stiff your ass.

    Good service at a casual restaurant gets 20-30%. Really excellent service at a fine restaurant can exceed the bill.

    Bartenders go by a somewhat different standard. First, I always always pay cash at the bar. I never run a tab, even if that means a special trip to the ATM. The tip on the first drink is whatever is left out of a twenty. After that, it’s two bucks a drink, unless I’m drinking some major production that’s gonna tie up the bar.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      It’s been some years since I drank at a bar, but I did the same. Cash only and a 10 or 20 tip on the first drink. Usually got heavy pours the rest of the night and a round or two on the house.

    • Sensei

      Similar. I’m far from a big drinker, but I tip heavy on the first drink and a buck or two depending on the place thereafter.

      I’m not a wine guy, but at an expensive place I’m not tipping based on the value of the wine either.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Only run a tab at the local watering hole where everybody knows my name; which is no where at this point in time.

    • Lord Humungus

      STEVE SMITH ONLY LEAVE FOOTPRINTS BEHIND. AND BROWN REMAINS OF HIKER ASS.

      • C. Anacreon

        “That was when I was carrying you”

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Are you a Brit sent here to fuck with us? they are the National Enquirer of websites, FFS Man, Demi is bad enough!
      /Someone had to say it….

    • Ownbestenemy

      So no pictures of it? TMITE along with APAE

      • Rebel Scum

        ^

      • Not Adahn

        At the very least, they could reprint that poop swastika they used to prove that there were roaming gangs of nazi klansmen on college campuses.

      • Rebel Scum

        I’m skeptical of the pipe bomb claim as well. Haven’t seen evidence, which should be easy to provide.

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      Are you sure it wasn’t Nancy have a bout of IBS?

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        *having a

  38. Lord Humungus

    Usually 20% unless the service was lousy. A bartender or waitstaff who goes beyond gets more, especially if they show consideration to my special needs kid.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Well she does have a bigger dick than him.

    • leon

      How could an idea storm the US Capitol?

    • Gustave Lytton

      Foreign interference confirmed!

    • Brochettaward

      Lucy Lawless…still would.

    • Rebel Scum

      Lucy Lawless

      Had a crush on her when she was in Xena. *Looks her up* Still would.

  39. leon

    I tip 2 dollars. Whatever that works out to be as a percentage of the total bill

    /Snark

    • Ownbestenemy

      Servers showing up to leon’s house and hounding him.

    • Hyperion

      Makes moving to Brazil even more attractive. People there only get tips with outstanding service, which means you usually get it. Try behaving like an entitled worker in the USA, you are not getting a tip, period. No one there expects it. Here, they expect it no matter what.

  40. SDF-7

    Crap like this is why this social media lynching crap should stop. Jerk should be sued into oblivion as an example for the next ten generations that some actions have too high of a price….

    • leon

      He was a “Suspected White Supremacist”. Like Tariq is a “Suspected Kiddie Diddler”

      • Enough About Palin

        There are some who say their are rumor that Tariq likes to get those little johnnies sloppy, but I personally can not say whether it is true.

      • Hyperion

        Let’s be honest. The only thing it takes to get you suspected of being a white supremacist these days, is being white. Being male just triples the odds.

      • Don escaped Two Corinthians

        I called someone on this recently. They kept making excuses for their own collectivism and bigotry, dodging accountability, and never answering me directly. She’s smarter than this, but she can’t resist enjoying the privilege of the protected class: she gets to accuse anyone else of bigotry just because how they were born, not the content of their character. She slinked away, but she’s knows I have her number, and she knows she’s being a garbage person.

        We are fomenting and underwriting bigotry. The bigotries compound themselves and eat their own tails. A century from now, everyone will write: how could so many be so dumb in such a transparent, indefensible, and corrosive way?

      • wdalasio

        A century from now, everyone will write: how could so many be so dumb in such a transparent, indefensible, and corrosive way?

        Hopefully. But, like you say, “bigotries compound themselves”. We’d made tremendous progress in eliminating bigotry. But, once that can of worms is sufficiently opened, I don’t think it’s hard at all for the very form that we all agreed needed to go away makes a return. Once you say bigotry is okay, you’ve lost the intellectual argument to say another form is wrong. And, I believe, in the long run, logic does eventually win out. And the Gods of the Copybook Headings aren’t a merciful lot.

      • Hyperion

        “We’d made tremendous progress in eliminating bigotry.”

        That’s why we had to bring it back from the dead. The left’s only effective tactic is identity politics. Otherwise, people would have to focus on policy and they can’t defend theirs.

      • Don escaped Two Corinthians

        yes, and, conversely, the right’s best attack is to themselves minimize identity politics and just point to upward mobility: see here good Mr HardWork, a self-made man, who came from nothing and now owns his own business; he is our idol, our beliefs support and helped create him, we don’t care what color he is, and you can be the next success just like him if you join us

        but I don’t notice that many Republicans are smart enough to focus on this kernel

      • Mojeaux

        Neh, the second you do that, it’s something else.

        Black person? Uncle Tom

        Asian? They don’t count

        Hispanic? Ignored

      • Hyperion

        Like I’ve been saying, it’s an information war.

    • WTF

      Well, fuck. I was going to buy another 4Runner, but now Toyota can go fuck themselves.

      • limey

        Eh. I don’t think you should not buy a perfectly good car designed and built by people who had nothing to do with this because of some thing in HR that should be corrected. If anything, the person who made the decision to fire this guy based on the tweet should be fired, but at this point do we even know if he was actually fired or whether some woke intern was (wo)manning the social media accounts and just went ahead and declared it without checking with, you know, actual management.

      • Rebel Scum

        Word. You could write to them an kindly suggest they investigate things before making decisions instead of relying on the word of loathsome, racist cuntes like Tariq Nasheed.

    • Hyperion

      This shit has been self correct soon or there will be real violence unlike anything we’ve seen in a long time.

      You can’t just take equal protection under the law and turn it into protection under the law depending on race or political views, without severe consequences. But that’s exactly what they’re trying to do.

    • limey

      I’m very much hoping he gets his job back, and that this is one more nail in the coffin of cancel culture. It goes beyond mere cancel culture, it’s straight up lying and putting people on blast just to destroy them.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Why would you want to go back to a company that is willing to fire you without even bothering to see what actually happened?

      • Rebel Scum

        My thought as well.

    • LJW

      Toyota is gonna be paying a nice sum.

    • Rebel Scum

      Looks like some defamation with demonstrable monetary loss to me…

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Yep. Some enterprising attorney is going to have a field day with that one.

        I wonder if Nasheed has liability insurance that will cover it.

  41. Gustave Lytton

    Some people can just do their fucking jobs. Others spend all their time telling you how much time it took not to do their job.

  42. KSuellington

    I don’t tip because society says I have to. I mean if they really serve a tip, really put forth the extra effort. But this tipping automatically shit, it’s for the birds.

    • DrOtto

      What are your views on Madonna’s song, Like a Virgin?

  43. Semi-Spartan Dad

    20% rounded up to the nearest dollar on the total bill. The vast majority of our restaurant business is given to two relatively cheap Italian and Mexican restaurants, and I do 30% at these. The staff all know us and give great service. I’ve left no tip on a couple meals (other places) where service provided a negative experience. Another time, I left a couple 20s on the table ( something like a 150% tip) after my wife vomited in the booth. She managed to get most of it in her purse and on our toddler daughter and I got towels to clean it myself the best I could, but still felt bad someone had to deal with that.

    How do you all tip on takeout, if at all? I usually give a few dollars but not a percentage.

    I also tip delivery guys if it’s anything beyond package delivery. I replaced that pos Samsung fridge I’ve been complaining about a couple days ago. One of the two delivery guys actually started screaming at me and walked off the job with my old fridge in the mudroom when it wouldn’t fit through the back door. I had to tell him not to raise his voice and to calm down (my wife heard and was all set to release the GSDs). It was unreal. I told the other guy it looks like the freezer door hinge just needs to be removed and the fridge should slide out just fine. He politely took the hinge off, calmed the other guy down, and finished the job. I heavily tipped the polite guy and hope he kept it all to himself.

    • Semi-Spartan Dad

      Ohhh, just saw the phrasing and no edit button. Have fun with that.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      NEVER lose it in front of a customer, walk around the corner and scream, but never in front of the Bill payer,
      CWAA

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Hey Yusef! The brass compression fitting on my tube water line (clear aquarium type tubing) would not fit the threaded steel water line for the fridge. Is this the fitting I need to connect the clear tubing to the threaded steel water line?

        https://www.lowes.com/pd/B-K-1-4-in-Compression-x-MIP-Adapter-Coupling-Fitting/1000505237

        The tubing is connected to a copper pipe in the basement with a saddle valve. I’m thinking about replacing the whole thing with a sharkbite shutoff valve and new tubing, but just cutting off the end and replacing with a different adapter would be much easier.

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        err braided steel line… not threaded.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        leave the Steel braid and use the adapter you found, it’s perfect for the job,

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        That’s exactly the fitting you need, leave a good 6″ or so of a copper tail, just in case, the plan will work, good researching,

      • Semi-Spartan Dad

        Okay awesome, thank you.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      People are Morons, this is known,

  44. Hyperion

    Is anyone really shocked about this? Really?

    Wittle Windsey Warmongerer

    Lindsey thinks he’s going to get some more poor sheep farmers blown up by the Biden admin. And of course, he’s right.

    • Hyperion

      Also, warmonger, if I do move to SC, you can bet I’ll help primary your ass. I would have done that 10 years ago.

  45. Dr. Fronkensteen

    15% It used to be 10% when I was a ute. Apparently the standard was raised to “keep up with inflation” as if a % would automatically adjust for inflation.

    Delivery usually a few bucks.

    Pizza delivery, in a blizzard. He got tipped very well.

    • Hyperion

      I always tip delivery people well. Unless they start fucking up my orders.

  46. Scruffy Nerfherder

    15% to 20%, towards the heavier end as of late because of the fiscal strain restaurants have been under

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      I am in that range as well, but it tends to go up from there in direct proportion to how many drinks I have had.

  47. Hyperion

    Everyone talking about civil war.

    But I don’t think many people have thought about this in the right way.

    A violent civil war will not result in a quick victory, if it results in a victory at all. Most likely we all lose and wind up in a dictatorship.

    There SHOULD be a civil war. But not the conventional sort. The civil war we should fight and can win, is information warfare. It has been fought against us, by the left, for a long time, and we have not engaged, at all. What we are currently dong, is all wrong. The media must do down. And they must go down hard.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      There is always civil disobedience.

      • Hyperion

        Then the media will just spin it as the worst thing in America since Pearl Harbor and terrorism when you’re on the wrong side of the narrative.

        We’re already seen that. If you protest and you’re not a lefty, it’s terrorism. If you do the same and you’re on the left, it heroism.

        There is no way to do anything to win outside of win the information war.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        Done right, civil disobedience is in part an information war.

      • grrizzly

        What is an act of civil disobedience for some is sedition and treason for others. We didn’t even have to leave our glib bubble this week to notice it.

      • Hyperion

        Isn’t the first step towards victory, identifying the enemy?

        TMITE

        Wow, that really has a meaning? It does and where did I first hear it?

        Now, what do we do? I think the goal is obvious, now that the enemy is identified.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        And MLK and Ghandi were terrorists, communists, and worse. Of course it will be painted by those in power as treason. Doesn’t mean it can’t work.

      • wdalasio

        Civil disobedience only really works if you have an opponent with a conscience. What I think could work is a program of malicious compliance. The law, the system, only really works because people cooperate with it voluntarily to the extent they put their own volition into it. They follow the rules in the big picture, even if they violate the details in execution. And they take their own initiative to make it work. Now, imagine if they didn’t. Actually, looking at labor history, you don’t even have to imagine. Historical transit strikes that were banned were executed by the union members following every letter of the regulations to excruciating detail. Turns out, following the rules makes what was normally a 20 minute bus ride take three hours. TOS got it’s panties in a wad earlier in the year because it seemed like police might have been playing a variant of this strategy in response to police brutality complaints (I’m discussing the tactic, not the cause for which it is employed). Now, imagine if there were a movement to impose that tactic across society with everything the Dems claim they want. Society would be on the brink of collapse.

      • Animal

        Swiss or some of the other prior-service types might be able to verify this; in my Army days I remember that if a bunch of troops really wanted to ditch an obnoxious officer or NCO, the way they’d do it was to follow all of his orders, precisely, to the letter, and do nothing else.

        Troops can get real stupid on you real fast if you piss them off. A similar tactic, I think, is in order in the political world.

    • OBJ FRANKELSON

      heheh… you said dong. heheheh

      You are of course correct. There has been a bit of a push back in the form of memes and the like and I do think the memes are at least a marginally effective form of IW.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      The question is how they will wage war on us.

      We live in a permission society. We need permission to earn a living, travel, conduct financial transactions, engage online, drive a car, etc…

      The government is going to implement cancel culture writ large and remove permissions for those who do not toe the line until they submit.

      • Viking1865

        Yeah we joke about the camps and stuff but there won’t be any camps. We’ll all just be unable to work for any major corporations or government jobs, we’ll be flagged in the travel database, our credit scores will be tanked for wrongthink, we will pay an additional Energy Justice Tax on gas and a Racial Justice Fee on our retirement accounts, none of our kids will qualify for public college aid, and of course the big one will be being flagged in the Big Public Healthcare system as “Stick to the bottom of the priority list for a month before allowing progression to the top.”

    • Count Potato

      “The civil war we should fight and can win, is information warfare.”

      So InfoWars?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        +1 Gay Frog

    • Rebel Scum

      It would not be regional, buy rural/urban. Guess where your food comes from, leftists.

      • C. Anacreon

        “Our food comes from Whole Foods. I’ve never seen any white trash in there. Check – Mate!”

        /local Bay Area stereotype woman reacting to your post

  48. Count Potato

    “FACEBOOK has removed the #WalkAway Campaign and has BANNED ME and EVERY MEMBER of my team!!!
    Over half a million people in #WalkAway with hundreds of thousands of testimonial videos and stories is GONE. Facebook has banned everything related to #WalkAway.”

    https://twitter.com/BrandonStraka/status/1347592064322719744

    Damn.

    What’s the gay equivalent of keeping blacks on the plantation?

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Keep them in the bath house?

      • Rebel Scum

        The closet?

    • Hyperion

      Look at the post I just made about winning. We can only win if we win the information war. And we absolutely can, the other side are idiots. But they can still win when no one else is trying.

    • Hyperion

      Has anyone accused them of banning that group because Straka is gay? Of fucking course not, because they never get called out on their hypocrisy and so they feel no need to stop doing it.

    • Not Adahn

      I believe the accepted containment apparatus is a “closet.”

    • Rebel Scum

      Go ahead and disenfranchise more and more of the country, dickheads. I am sure it will turn out well.

      I wonder what will happen to BlueCollarLogic. I don’t watch a lot of his vids but I appreciate that his YT channel exists.

    • rhywun

      You have a web site.

      #walkaway from Twitter, Facebook, et al. They are obviously your enemy.

      • Count Potato

        I don’t know how safe that is either. Unless maybe you own your own servers.

      • rhywun

        Good point. We’ve already seen the left go after credit card companies to deny the rights of wrong thinkers. ISP’s are a logical addition.

  49. Scruffy Nerfherder

    When a supermodel gets it…

    Emily Ratajkowski
    @emrata
    This gives Facebook/tech/Zuck THE MOST POWER. If he can shut the president up/off he can shut any of us up/off

    • Ownbestenemy

      Given her family lineage I am sure she has heard stories about what this will end up looking like.

    • Chipwooder

      Huh, and she’s usually uberwoke

    • Enough About Palin

      Damn, she has got it all!

      • Ownbestenemy

        Just know this is her concern “My concern is that this gives big tech the opportunity to shut down “leftist extremists” who are important political organizers.” Which is a valid concern, but I think if FB or the other socials guaranteed protections for her causes, she’d be on board 100%.

  50. DEG

    Multistate ranks states’ reopenings

    Tops: South Dakota, Alaska, and Florida (all tied)

    Bottoms: Washington, New Mexico, California

    I wonder a bit about their methodology given they slightly rank PA higher than NH. PA slammed bars, restaurants, and gyms closed in December though that order was lifted last Monday.

    • grrizzly

      I’ll have an opportunity to compare: returned from FL this week, flying to CA next week.

    • hayeksplosives

      I think that only the CA “purple” counties are restricted severely. That’s basically anywhere with a big city.

      Unfortunately, some of CA’s counties are huge in area. So if you are in a covid-free community in the mountains, you’re still under lockdown because of the crowded, poor, multigenerational family households in San Diego (who also have to do all the delivery driving).

      Good luck. One little trick is to look for places that have a copy of the Recall Newsom petition; the restaurants that have the petition also are a bit lax on the enforcement of Covid decrees.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        What kind of country are we in when you have to give tips like that for visiting another State? we are so Fucked….

    • C. Anacreon

      Bottoms: Washington, New Mexico, California

      Living in California I definitely feel like I’ve been forced to be a Bottom.

      And the state doesn’t even have the goddamn common courtesy to give me a reach-around.

    • Rebel Scum

      Trumps account was suspended for calling for peace and calm. Not surprised. Mark Zuckerborg is assho. I wonder what these censorious fucks actually think they are going to accomplish though. There are alternatives. Though the problem with that is driving people into echo-chambers where ideas cannot be challenged and aired out.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        It’s going to be parallel institutions from here on out which is both a good and a bad thing.

    • Rebel Scum

      It’s a trap!

      And, yes. Yes they do.

  51. Tonio

    A small win for a Virginia state senator, a big win for everyone as this ruling establishes a precedent.

    “1A rights not cancelled by pandemic.” -US District Court for the Easter District of Virginia

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Great news. The Democrats desperately wanted to keep the VCDL out of the building before the upcoming session.

      • Rebel Scum

        Yup. Come to think of it, I have been meaning to join VCDL. I should fund the entity that helps to protect my, um, fishing rod collection. Lots of rods/reels, string and lures…

      • Tonio

        Me, too. I consider this a pinky swear, RS.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Easter? so an All Catholic district?

      • Tonio

        From Hell’s Heart I Stab at Thee!!1!

        Eastern District, dammit.

  52. Shpip

    No way in hell am I turning on the news, and there’s little in the way of sportsball to attract my attention tonight.

    But it’s The King’s birthday, so TCM is doing a Elvis moviethon. Currently watching Viva Las Vegas, next up is Spinout (and since I’m a track day driver — check out the new topic on the forums — the “plots” of both films have something to keep me perked up).

    I feel like a harmless night of fun might just be in order. As are a couple of Dogfish Head Seaquenches.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Seaquench! i thought I was the only one!
      Cheers!

  53. grrizzly

    BREAKING: Apple is currently threatening to ban Parler — the free speech alternative to Twitter — unless the service enacts draconian censorship policies demanded by left-wing Big Tech oligarchs, according to two sources familiar with Apple’s threats.

    • Urthona

      You think this will happen on other phones? Maybe I’ll make the switch.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        It’ll absolutely happen on Android but it’s much easier to circumvent the official app store on an Android phone.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I can’t stand for google tracking me anymore. I switched to Apple and will deal with it.

        Google Maps, while a fantastic utility, is an incredibly invasive piece of spyware.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        I use Apple too, if I need something that doesn’t have an app allowed I just bookmark it and go to it via browser.

      • Seguin

        I’ve been researching it, apparently you can degoogle your android phone.

    • Hyperion

      I’ve been saying this. Apple, Google, Twitter, and Facebook will soon rule all the internet and there will be no alternative.

      The civil war IS information and if we do not focus on that, the left has won.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        You know what a Sabot is?

      • Urthona

        I don’t really care for Parler, but I’ll figure out how the break my phone and install it anyway.

      • Hyperion

        Do you care about this site? Because our days are numbered as well. Or anyone else who speaks out against the left.

      • EvilSheldon

        How?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Use the web interface instead on DuckDuckGo

      Switching to Android won’t matter because Google will follow suit.

      • Urthona

        Ah yes.

      • Urthona

        Gotta figure out how to break the phone and run my own software.

      • rhywun

        Yeah, it’s a website, duh. Never understood the need for “app” when a web page will do.

      • Urthona

        Because the app is faster and better.

      • rhywun

        *shrugs* I’ll take your word for it; I don’t use that site.

        But the vast majority of apps like these (i.e. those that have a web interface) are just the same web interface with the browser chrome removed. With the latest HTML technologies, nobody wants to develop two different interfaces any more.

    • Tonio

      VPN, yo. They can’t tell where you’re going or what you’re doing. Other than that you’ve got an encrypted session with a server in Plan les Ouates, Geneva, CH.

    • Hyperion

      It looks like they already made good on this. It’s completely down as of 15 minutes or so again.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Maybe but the bullshit is thick right now too. Then again, they already won’t allow a BitChute app for similar reasons.

      • Rebel Scum

        Android allows the BitChute app…for now…

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        That’ll be gone soon, I guarantee, but clicking to a browser bookmark is simple enough.

    • Hyperion

      I’m shocked.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      “Breaking!, who fucking cares about Twitter” keep up the clickbait CP,

      • Mojeaux

        People care about Twitter because it’s the higgest disseminator of libertarian and conservative politics and political philosophy, far more than Facebook or Insta.

        You may not think it’s important, but a whole lot of conservatives and libertarians do.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I think all Social media is irrelevant, think of it what you will,

      • Mojeaux

        It’s not irrelevant in the least bit. It is the arbiter and controller of the left’s pet narratives. It can ruin people’s lives.

        So not irrelevant.

      • Urthona

        Agreed.

        It’s extremely powerful. Trump probably just go elected 4 years ago because the media couldn’t censor what he was saying.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Which is why they’re changing the rules.

      • Urthona

        yup

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Only of you participate, I understand why you must at times,
        Cheers my Friend, stay low and thrive,

  54. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Not good…

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/intelligence-analysts-downplayed-election-interference-trump-inspector

    “Given analytic differences in the way Russia and China analysts examined their targets, China analysts appeared hesitant to assess Chinese actions as undue influence or interference. The analysts appeared reluctant to have their analysis on China brought forward because they tend to disagree with the administration’s policies, saying in effect, I don’t want our intelligence used to support those policies,” Zulauf concluded, saying this behavior violated analytic standards requiring independence from political considerations.

    The ombudsman shared a number of recommendations he said had been accepted by Ratcliffe, including to “reinforce through direct leadership communications from ODNI to the workforce as a whole, and from agency heads to all IC agencies, the importance of protecting analytic integrity and a renewed commitment to analytic objectivity and avoiding politicization in both policy and practice.”

    Ratcliffe, a former Republican congressman from Texas, signed a three-page unclassified letter on Thursday, also obtained by the Washington Examiner, in which he contended that “from my unique vantage point as the individual who consumes all of the U.S. government’s most sensitive intelligence on the People’s Republic of China, I do not believe the majority view expressed by the Intelligence Community analysts fully and accurately reflects the scope of the Chinese government’s efforts to influence the 2020 U.S. federal elections.” The ombudsman report, Ratcliffe added, “includes concerning revelations about the politicization of China election influence reporting and of undue pressure being brought to bear on analysts who offered an alternative view based on the intelligence.”

    • Count Potato

      I’m sure CNN will get right on that.

  55. Yusef drives a Kia

    “You can’t stop the signal”

  56. kinnath

    I lived without facebook for most of my life. I look forward to living without it again.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      If you quit, congratulations. If you got banned, congratulations.

      • kinnath

        I am still on it. But I am close to walking away.

        Facebook groups have been the primary means of delivering information for several of my hobbies. That’s not going to end.

        So, at this point, I have unfollowed the majority of my friends and I mostly just see group posts. At some point, this won’t be enough to justify staying there.

      • Mojeaux

        I like my hobby groups too. I am seriously considering unfollowing/unfriending almost everyone.

      • Urthona

        It’s the same for me. I’m also in an old guy rock band that connects w/ people on FB.

        Would be hard to leave.

        I wonder if there’s a way to discipline myself to only use those groups. I don’t want them getting excess advertising dollars now so I’ve been browsing less.

      • rhywun

        I didn’t bother unfollowing anyone; I just deleted my account. Anyone wants me, they know how to reach me.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        A lot of people at work like using something on FB for buying and selling stuff locally. They get some pretty sweet deals sometimes.

      • Urthona

        I use that too.

        There’s quite a bit of usefulness to it.

      • Mojeaux

        Oh yeah! I use FB marketplace a lot to buy and sell.

      • prolefeed

        I got rid of FB about 7 years ago after my batshit crazy ex-GF hacked into my account and trashed it. Didn’t miss it at all.

      • Mojeaux

        Well, this is one reason I’m about to throw in the author towel. I’m there basically to whore my books, but at what cost?

        My siblings have gone batshit crazy as have a couple of my cousins. I don’tneed to keep up with them that badly.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      I refuse to install the app or Messenger. They’re far too invasive. When I do use it, it’s thru a browser.

      • Mojeaux

        I use theapp on my iPad, but not my phone. And messenger is a battery hog.

    • Urthona

      I know in some ways i’m an optimist, but I think tech conglomerates may be overplaying their hands a bit.

      I enjoy many things on social media but I absolutely could get rid of I need to.

      The two types of phones are excellent right now, but nothing lasts forever. They are practically printing money right now but I wouldn’t push it.

    • Akira

      I used to be rather, well, glib about the harmful effects of social media, but I was wrong.

      My gripe with the culture that exists on Facebook is best exemplified by a quote that gets passed around in “picture of text” form, mostly by young women: “if you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best.” I just hate that quote. It basically says that your actions are beyond your own control; that it’s not your job to regulate your reactions but rather everyone else’s job to accommodate and work around them. What would you expect when people take in stuff like this every single day?

      I don’t think there’s a word for this, but the whole culture of Facebook is very anti-Stoic – it encourages you to want more things, let your emotions rule you, and demand that the whole world change to match your attitude and expectations.

      No wonder professor Johnathan Haidt blames social media for the skyrocketing rates of anxiety and depression among young girls today.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        anti-Stoic, I like that.

      • EvilSheldon

        I love that meme. It’s the biggest and brightest red flag ever to be waved.

        Honey? Your best? It really isn’t very good.

      • Akira

        It’s also extremely disturbing if you just flip the gender (like many things). There was a parody version circulating that was a picture of a woman with a black eye and the caption, “If you can’t handle him at his worst, you don’t deserve him at his best“.

    • Ownbestenemy

      My parents still don’t realize I don’t have FB. “Honey, I sent you a message on FB and you never responded”…”Mom, I don’t have FB, not sure who you sent that too”

  57. Lord Humungus

    A picture of my greyhound that I took last fall.

    Also I had a job interview – more of a HR screening – yesterday for a consultant position. Money would be good, etc but I don’t know how my introverted personality would handle such a job. Ah well it would only be for a few years, provided Uncle Joe lets us privileged white folks work.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Any work is good right now, IMO, it may not last, so take the cash and hang on, it’s gonna get rough, again, IMO,

    • Akira

      I don’t know how my introverted personality would handle such a job

      I’ve been reading a lot of sales books in preparation for a possible move into that career, and all the newer ones seem to say that it’s not about how much you can talk, it’s about how well you can listen and understand the perspective of the customer/client. I’ve never worked in any sales or consulting capacity whatsoever, but I found that encouraging since I’m quite introverted as well.

    • But Enough About [this space intentionally left blank]

      Linky no worky.

    • DEG

      Your picture link goes nowhere.

      Best wishes on the interview!

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Good guy, Cullen’s done some fine work all through this thing. I’d say it’s sad how far Ireland’s gone into the shitter but I as a US citizen have zero room to criticize right now.

    • Rebel Scum

      Again?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Schroedinger’s Twitter Account

      • Count Potato

        He was just locked out for 12 hours on the condition he deleted two tweets, so his previous tweets were still there.

        This is a permanent suspension, so now all his previous tweets are gone.

    • Count Potato

      “Twitter permanently suspends Trump

      Twitter permanently suspended President Trump’s account Friday after determining that his posts pose “the risk of further incitement of violence.”

      The platform had previously handed the president a 12-hour suspension for posts made during Wednesday’s violent insurrection at the Capitol building.

      “After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them — specifically how they are being received and interpreted on and off Twitter — we have permanently suspended the account,” the company wrote in a blog post.

      Permanent suspension of Trump is a step further than other social media platforms have gone. Facebook announced Thursday that it would be suspending his access until at the least Biden’s inauguration with the potential for it being extended indefinitely further.

      As supporters of the president stormed the Capitol, Trump used social media to continue spreading misinformation about the November election which he lost.

      Twitter had previously taken down two of his posts Wednesday — a video urging his supporters who broke into the Capitol to retreat while simultaneously praising the mob and repeating false claims about voter fraud, and another tweet with a similar message.

      Trump deleted those posts and was allowed to start tweeting again Thursday morning.

      With that ability back he posted a video urging peace and calm, followed by two tweets striking a markedly different tone.

      “The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!” the first post read.

      “To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th,” he said shortly after.

      Twitter chose to act based on those last tweets.

      “Due to the ongoing tensions in the United States, and an uptick in the global conversation in regards to the people who violently stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021, these two Tweets must be read in the context of broader events in the country and the ways in which the President’s statements can be mobilized by different audiences, including to incite violence, as well as in the context of the pattern of behavior from this account in recent weeks,” Twitter explained.”

      https://thehill.com/policy/technology/533439-twitter-permanently-suspends-trump

      • C. Anacreon

        It’s rather hard to see what was so outrageous about those two tweets? “In context” they were encouraging violence????

        Trump writing “What a beautiful sunrise this morning” would probably be interpreted by Twitter as code for “Activate Insurrection Plan-25”.

      • Count Potato

        Even worse, they deleted his peace & love tweets.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Dorsey is going to decorate a lamp post. If he’s lucky. Dumb shit. Assholes trying to ramp up a no shit civil war and insurrection. God damn them all to hell.

      • Rebel Scum

        Wednesday’s violent insurrection

        Nope. That is not what insurrection means.

        Due to the ongoing tensions in the United States

        I can’t think of a better way to diffuse said tension than to censor the president supported by roughly half the voting population. . .

      • Viking1865

        Jesus Christ that is truly Pravdaesque.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Not that it matters but didn’t a federal judge basically state that Trump’s feed is public property?

      • Rebel Scum

        Yes.

    • Brochettaward

      Combine this with the above threat from Apple to ban Parlor. They are clamping down and I suspect its coordinated.

      • Rebel Scum

        I suspect its coordinated

        Knock me down with a feather.

  58. commodious spittoon

    A local mortuary is sending junk mail now. Hmm.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      “You’re Dead Honey”

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      You old.

    • C. Anacreon

      Die now, get 50% off your next death.

      • Count Potato

        Great deal for Buddhists!

      • commodious spittoon

        No loyalty rewards??

    • KSuellington

      There’s people dying these days that have never died before.

  59. Ownbestenemy

    Oh fun. Another threat from our HOA to tow our trailer away…

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      How many Divisions do they have? fuck them Obe, what are the really gonna do now?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Basically it comes down to who has enforcement of the street. We are not gated, so the city has enforcement. The HOA can fine us for violating their rules, but to tow away, as from what I understand from an attorney friend of ours, we could report as stolen. Who knows if that is true cause the attorney friend is a “stick it to the man” type of guy.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Good Luck, Fuckers….

      • Ownbestenemy

        I plan on going to the the next board meeting…and maybe even running just to fuck with em.

        “The State and city have limited our income opportunities and now is the time that you feel you need to take away what business we can do?” Problem is, they are okay with it cause I was a dumbass moving to a nice area to raise my kids up in that is filled with stay-at-home spouses that have doctors and lawyers and such as their other halves.

      • creech

        First come fines, then levies on your property (which need to be cleared when you sell) or, when the amount gets high enough, small claims court and a sheriff sale.

    • Hyperion

      We recently spotted a nice home, in a beautiful area, but it has an HOA and my only problem with it, is it has an HOA.

      At first glance, you may think the HOA fee is worth it, because you cannot even get in there without passing through the gates of the main entrance, which are on the grounds of a gorgeous lake resort.

      So my wife says ‘we’ll just build storage!’. And I said ‘Yeah, it’s the first thing I thought of. Problem is, we have to ask permission from the HOA to even do that.’. Please, mini Hitler, may I please build a storage building on my own property, which I own and pay for?

      Ummm, NO.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        ^^

        It’s getting hard to find a decent house of decent age in a neighborhood that isn’t HOA.

        The proliferation of HOAs is one of the major data points informing my belief that a collapse into totalitarianism is inevitable.

      • Mojeaux

        Camazotz.

      • Ownbestenemy

        That is why we are praising the day when the two teens graduate. California is moving in heavy and even the ‘poorest’ of Californians that sold their houses can get into the ‘richest’ parts of Vegas.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Here is the interesting part. We have gated and non-gated communities in our HOA. The gated, the HOA is responsible for parking enforcement and has the ability to tow. The non-gated, they do not. They still can regulate the parking, but it results in fines and liens and all that if it gets that far. However, we have never been given notice for the past 2 years since owning the trailer until the HOA contracted out to a company for the wonderful price of $60/hour to perform parking enforcement.

      This last notice wasn’t directly from the HOA, it was from the company contracted and paid to find violations.

    • Hyperion

      Better than ‘We’re feeding on the neighborhood cats, Korean barQ is the best!’.

    • B.P.

      That cat looks like its eating just fine.

      • mikey

        Yeah, none of our customers look hungry, but a couple will sit and drink for 15 minutes straight two or three times a night. I doubt they’re real healthy.

    • But Enough About [this space intentionally left blank]

      That’s very kind of you.

  60. Mojeaux

    I just remembered that have almost zero presence online as my real self. It’s all my pen name or various monikers that can’t be connected.

    I applaud my prescience. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get this through to my kids.

    • Ownbestenemy

      I have been lucky. My kids have online prescience on gaming apps like Steam and such and use Discord, but absent that, they shun the socials.

      • Mojeaux

        XY has had all his devices taken away because reasons. Social media has not been good for him.

        I think XX is just too busy for anything but texting and possibly Insta.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      All my self searches come back here, Yikes!

      • Ownbestenemy

        This handle? To here and when I was a conspiracy nut at ATS. Other than that, real name is a bass fisherman…so I am golden.

      • Mojeaux

        My real name is a Vicorian Martha Stewart and a councilwoman in Galveston. I’m good.

    • Hyperion

      Well, you know, if Meechelle demands you risk destroying your own business, what can you do?

    • Q Continuum

      Alternate headline:

      Twitter commits suicide.

      • Hyperion

        Only until Twitter, FB, and Google are given complete ownership of the internet. Though that might not happen until Monday.

        If you like your free speech, you can keep it. /CCP Joe

      • Mojeaux

        Neh.

      • Hyperion

        as of right now, you’re the only one who knows what ‘Neh’ means.’

        Did you mean to say ‘Ni’? Are you challenging us to cut down the biggest tree in the forest with a Herring?

      • Ownbestenemy

        I read it as a Jewish old lady scoffing at someone telling her that her son was a putz.

      • Mojeaux

        Are you saying you don’t understand what a “no”-like word that begins with N might possibly mean?

      • SDF-7

        No one else read Ender’s Game?

  61. Mojeaux

    Blogs will be making a comeback as social media bans everyone it doesn’t like.

    But then the ISPs will get involved.

    • The Other Kevin

      They’re already talking about a new Patriot Act to fight home grown terrorists. Shouldn’t be hard to get all the tech companies and ISP’s to comply.

      • Ownbestenemy

        I jokingly talked about how all the senators and representatives are dusting off the folders of items they wanted in the first go of the Patriot Act but couldn’t get it in just yesterday….looks like it wasn’t a joke after all.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      There are ways around that too.

      • Mojeaux

        I need to figure out how to get on the dark web.

      • Ownbestenemy

        If you have to ask….Tor

        But you’d have to have someone knowledgeable on how to navigate.

      • Mojeaux

        I have Tor. It’s just a PITA to use regularly.

      • Count Potato

        Do not use Tor without a VPN. Don’t even download it without a VPN. Then check the hash.

      • Mojeaux

        I keep it on a flash drive.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Mine is on an undisclosed raspberry pi somewhere, maybe with the boat that sunk the other day.

      • EvilSheldon

        Do people actually go on the internet without at least one VPN tunnel? Really?

    • DEG

      Face diapers. Blech.

    • SandMan

      I’d wait to see more of 35.

  62. Akira

    Found this OLD book at a bookstore for a dollar… Looks to be Iowa Supreme Court cases from the 1850s. Someone had stuck what look like flower petals between the pages. It just blows my mind that someone could have put those there before the Civil War, and they’ve remained there until I leafed through it the other day and they fell out.

    https://ibb.co/album/RkMk0X

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Very Cool!

    • Count Potato

      Wow.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Excellent find! Looks like my great grandma’s Bible from Sweden, dating to about that time.

    • leon

      When I was in high school I would write notes and leave them in the most random of books in my library. Wonder if any of them are there still.

    • DEG

      That’s cool.

  63. LJW

    So how long until companies start canning people for things like party affiliation or gun ownership? I keep my mouth shut about all of that but I’m sure they have ways of finding out.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Given what the soon to be former DOT Secretary wrote and what the FAA Administrator wrote to us yesterday, if they link me to here, I will be canned from my job, I am sure of it.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Wait, what was the gist?

      • Ownbestenemy

        “I am sending this message to you today with a very heavy heart. The violence in the U.S. Capitol yesterday was an attack on our sacred democracy, and it was reprehensible and unpardonable.”

        Maybe just words, but I think they are more than willing to purge at this point.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        That sounds like boilerplate, best keep your head low for a while though and see how this all shakes out.

      • Ownbestenemy

        The unpardonable part is what gets me. I have already been asked several times at work, in a federal building, what is your take on all this. “I am busy, I don’t have time for this right now” is my answer.

      • leon

        “unpardonable”

        Akin to Judas and Cain

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        “I am busy, I don’t have time for this right now” is my answer.

        The only answer for those of us who can’t up and leave the wokeness.

      • Viking1865

        “The only answer for those of us who can’t up and leave the wokeness.”

        I fear that will no longer be an acceptable answer.

      • straffinrun

        My decision twenty years ago is looking awfully wise.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yep. Some of those questions came over our MS Teams too…nope, not gonna do it. “Oh I didn’t see that..you know how teams acts up over the VPN.”

    • Viking1865

      I think they’re already starting. I keep my mouth shut, and my silence has been remarked upon.

      • KSuellington

        Silence=violence dude.

    • Akira

      It looks like that’s where things are headed.

      Secession really is looking like the best possible outcome, and I doubt the Left would accept that without major violence.

      • Mojeaux

        Secession relies on like-minded people being able to communicate.

        The idea here is to cut off the communication of enemies of the left, to isolate them like an abusive husband isolates his wife.

      • leon

        Every time we go through these coordinated bannings and suspensions, it is really creepy.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Isolate, freeze it, all that jazz. Talks of freedom or dangerous ideas will once again be relegated to dark alleys and hushed words in taverns.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        The various Yugoslavs managed without the interwebz just fine.

    • Plinker762

      I will only hire gun owners

  64. KSuellington

    Oh there will be no tip, but on your deathbed you shall receive total consciousness.

  65. leon

    Trump is a dictator, but he can’t even keep himself from being banned from his preferred communication platform.

      • Rebel Scum

        We need an opposition that’s principled and strong.

        More like you need a faux opposition that lies to its own voters and rolls over at every opportunity.

        They should be flat beaten the next time they run.

        Send the Dominion machines to Texas!

        Goebbels and the “great lie”

        That is literally the leftist playbook that plays out 24-7 these days.

        Fuck, I hate this loathsome, lying cunte.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Doesn’t sound like deescalation does it?

    • Brochettaward

      Ben and Jerry’s should just change their logo to a hammer and sickle and be done with it.

    • Akira

      The only explanation is that this was allowed to happen because they were white—not Black, Brown or Indigenous people.

      Last I heard, an organization with “Black” right there in the name spent the summer burning, looting, assaulting, and killing, and virtually nothing was done by law enforcement.

      • Gustave Lytton

        But that was Sacramento. Totally different.

      • Plinker762

        I approve of their weapon selection

  66. leon

    Looks like discord dumped TheDonald server and all its members have been banned.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      Do, how long before the purges go from virtual to physical?

      • Ownbestenemy

        Well it is Friday so I expect some dump from some agency about something. That way it is buried in the Sunday talking heads about the Attack on our Democracy!

  67. But Enough About [this space intentionally left blank]

    Parler appears to be fucked. I’m stuck in an eternal Captcha loop.

    I wonder if this is how the civil war begins?

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      It starts with a spark, mebbe?

    • Urthona

      Parler has actually not gone down because of Apple or Google yet.

      It went down because Trump joined and a massive surge of interest brought it to its knees.

      I am super pissed about this though. Just went through and canceled my Apple subscription and I’m switching my gmail to something else.

      • Akira

        I am super pissed about this though. Just went through and canceled my Apple subscription and I’m switching my gmail to something else.

        I’m looking at serious steps to de-Google my life. I’m willing to pay for an email. Just need something that will let me chat with my friends who still use Hangouts.

        The phone is the tough one – does anyone know of a decent smartphone alternative that is not Apple? All I really want to do on my phone is text/call, browse the Internet, and play chess or freecell.

      • Urthona

        I figure I will have to leave my gmail up for awhile until I figure out how to change everything in my life, but they generate money from collecting my data. As we all use it less, they will collect more. Every little bit is a start.

      • Urthona

        they will collect less i mean.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        It’s either Google or Apple for smooth running phones, I think there are a couple of Linux phones available but god knows how well those function.

      • Urthona

        Yeah this is a war I can fight. I’m not about to die in the trenches at the stage in my life but i’m actually capable of replacing the OS on my phone with another.

        Even if I deem that too big a pain in the ass, I canceled my apple subscriptions just now. Money is still money and now I’m taking steps to use them less because they are evil.

      • rhywun

        If I was serious about de-eviling my life, I would have to throw out everything made in China. For starters.

      • SP

        Protonmail.

      • Urthona

        Are you positive?

        /dadjoke

    • Rebel Scum

      Freedom dies with thunderous applause.

      • Urthona

        I actually think Google and Apple demanding Parler change is them being pissed that they’re about to lose control.

        They’re gonna lose more though if they follow through. Google gets a ton of data from people simply searching or using their free email client that can easily switch to another.Trump just needs to start making the suggestions

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        The more you tighten your grip, Google, the more internet traffic will slip through your fingers.

  68. leon

    This is such bullshit. I haven’t gotten to this part of Roman history in Livy yet. Such spoilers. Don’t tell me who gets put on the proscription lists.

  69. kinnath

    So, I know this has come up before, but I don’t have the energy to search for it.

    Recommendations for:

    VPNs

    Secure email

    etc

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      NordVPN (never use a freebie), ProtonMail

      • kinnath

        thanks

    • leon

      What are you planning on using a VPN for? VPN services are over sold as an anonymity tool, so I really don’t recommend them, unless you need to spoof your geolocation.

      • kinnath

        What are you planning on using a VPN for?

        risk management

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Why do you say they’re oversold as an anonymity tool, Leon?

    • commodious spittoon

      When do you suppose they start leaning on VPNs, or will they just criminalize their use?

    • straffinrun

      Conservatives will adamantly demand that half of those accounts be reinstated, settle for a tenth of them being reinstated and never realize that they’ve been played.

      • Viking1865

        Conservatism is an endless series of hills, none of them worth dying on.

        In 2060 the staunch right wing of the GOP will be trying to hold the line at 60% income tax and arguing fiercely that only high school aged children should have mandatory practical sex education classes.

      • straffinrun

        I’m firmly against any more than 15 genders.

      • commodious spittoon

        I’ll be cold in the ground before I recognize yiffers as a legitimate gender.

      • commodious spittoon

        Which is ridiculous, if a twelve-year-old is old enough to vote she’s old enough for hands-on sex education, Hitler.

      • Akira

        Election claims is their enabling act for anything.

        Particularly disingenuous for the people who insist to this day that the 2016 election result was a complete fraud and Trump was never the legitimate president.

  70. Yusef drives a Kia

    I are Dumb, Goodbye,

    • commodious spittoon

      Come again?