Realistic Libertarians Need Only Apply

by | Jan 30, 2021 | Beer, Food & Drink, Liberty, Racism, Standard Libertarian Disclaimer | 169 comments

On to week three of my libertarian/AnCap mini profile series.  It occurred to me I could choose to not talk about this guy, but that would be a disservice.

He’s also a bit dicey.

This is my review of Josephbrau PLZNR:

Who am I talking about?  Hans-Herman Hoppe, of course.

Unlike many of the philosophers I outline in this series—Hoppe is still alive and still able to defend his life’s work.  The issue itself is not necessarily his philosophy itself—wait what am I talking about?  Of course it is.  Hoppe happens to be a philosophical missing link.

Consider every version of statism in existence today—this is not Hoppe.  He is most certainly an anachrocapitalist.  Hoppe however, throws an awful amount of shade at those who might call themselves “alt-right”.  Now this is not the contemporary meaning where anybody that happens to not list their pronouns in their LinkedIn profile is “alt-right”.  He has a very real following among race realist types, and white supremacists.  So much so entertaining debates like this one between podcaster/commedian Dave Smith and Nick Sarwark, the Libertarian Party Chair, are necessary.  Necessary because there is a very real connection between libertarianism and the no-shit, alt-right.  Having principles like free speech sometimes means you might have to come to defense of, or at least openly tolerate unsavory people. Because a third party is stuck trying to draw between two opposing sides of the culture, and these people are unsavory to both sides it tests the limits of what principled people are willing to tolerate.

You don’t have to take my word for it.  He wrote it in so many words in his essay, A Realistic Libertarianism:

From that vantage point, the ‘victim’ groups and their ‘victimizers’ are easily identified. As it turns out, ‘victims’ make up the vast majority of mankind. Everyone and every conceivable group is a ‘victim,’ except that small part of mankind composed of white (including northern Asian) heterosexual males, living traditional, bourgeois family lives. They, and especially the most creative and successful ones among them, (excluding interestingly only rich sports or entertainment celebrities) are the ‘victim- izers’ of everyone else.

For the vast majority of the piece, I have no quarrel.  It continues into a 24-page long siege of where Rothbard goes wrong.  If you were to skim through this essay and are curious to whom Hoppe is referring, this is who “He” is.

The coup de gras is on page 22…

In light of this, as a right-libertarian, I would of course first say to my children and students: always respect and do not invade others’ private property rights and recognize the State as an enemy and indeed the very anti-thesis of private property. But I would not leave it at that. I would not say (or silently imply) that once you have satisfied this requirement “anything goes.” Which is pretty much what ‘thin’ libertarians appear to be saying! I would not be a cultural relativist as most “thin” libertarians at least implicitly are. Instead, I would add (at a minimum): be and do whatever makes you happy, but always keep in mind that as long as you are an integral part of the worldwide division of labor, your existence and well-being depends decisively on the continued existence of others, and especially on the continued existence of white heterosexual male dominated societies, their patriarchic family structures, and their bourgeois or aristocratic lifestyle and conduct. Hence, even if you do not want to have any part in that, recognize that you are nonetheless a beneficiary of this standard “Western” model of social organization and hence, for your own sake, do nothing to undermine it but instead be supportive of it as something to be respected and protected.

And to the long list of ‘victims’ I would say: do your own thing, live your own life, as long as you do it peacefully and without invading other people’s private property rights. If and insofar as you are integrated into the international division of labor, you do not owe restitution to anyone nor does anyone owe you any restitution. Your coexistence with your supposed ‘victimizers’ is mutually beneficial. But keep in mind that while the ‘victimizers’ could live and do without you, albeit at a lower standard of living, the reverse is not true. The disappearance of the ‘victimizers’ would imperil your very own existence. Hence, even if you don’t want to model yourself on the example provided by white male culture, be aware that it is only on account of the continued existence of this model that all alternative cultures can be sustained at their present living standards and that with the disappearance of this “Western” model as a globally effective Leitkultur the existence of many if not all of your fellow ‘victims’ would be endangered.

Not only is this man’s wife Turkish, he happens to live there.

Whatever.  I can put up with assholes by killing them with kindness being an asshole myself.  His outlook on various cultures aside, his advocacy of how decentralized communities can function is where I draw the line.

Say for example a shirtless, buffalo hat wearing shaman makes the government disappear tomorrow.  Communities at the smallest level will necessarily have to organize themselves in some way, in whatever way they choose to recognize property rights.  For sake of argument you agree to your community’s arrangement.  You go to sell your property and the community determines they don’t like the buyer for some reason.  It can be innocuous like they don’t want Dallas Cowboys fans in the community, or more insidious like not wanting to live next to one of (((them))).  All acceptable in Hoppe-stan if the action taken is peaceful and NAP approved—like shunning.  While shunning isn’t exactly violent, it can be damaging…just ask anyone that bought GME in the last week on the Robinhood app and were given one choice with what to do with their property last Thursday—sell.*

If others can determine what you can and cannot do with your property, oh well.  They can and do live without you, even at a lower standard of living, the reverse is not true.

As always if you skipped ahead, the short version is this guy is the flaming guitar player from Mad Max: Fury Road.

As for the beer, this is a Trader Joe’s brand so it is actually a really good value for what I paid.  It is a traditional Czech Pilsner as it implies on the label.  Without the barely noticeable skunkiness you might find from an actual Czech Pilsner you might come across from time to time due to the logistics involved in shipping it to your community’s merchant of intoxicants.  I’ll likely buy it again this summer when I tend to drink Pilsners. Josephbrau PLZNR:  3.2/5

 

*Damnit, I talked about current events.  No matter.  At the time of this writing, I initiated a full transfer of my Robinhood account to somebody else I prefer to associate, even though I have no position in GME.  Screw those guys

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169 Comments

  1. CPRM

    ‘For a New Liberty’ really was a sophomoric attempt, if that is all that defines we ‘libertarians’, we are doomed to fail.

  2. Count Potato

    “anachrocapitalist”

    Capitalism from an earlier time?

    • CPRM

      An anachronism merely evokes an earlier time, not so much from it.

      • CPRM

        So really….Mexi has come up with THE BETHT, THE CLATHIETHT title for us!

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Heh, autocorrect.

    • Chafed

      I thought it was anarchocapitalism after the ‘ro runs its course.

    • CPRM

      Balboa, a Spanish explorer, killed hundreds of Indigenous people. Peter Martyr d’Anghiera in his De orbe novo decades, wrote how Balboa had fed forty local homosexual men to his dogs. Balboa, upset with “a brother of the king and other young men, obliging men, [who] dressed effeminately with women’s clothing [… of those which the brother of the king] went too far with unnatural” temerity, threw forty of them as food to the dogs. D’Anghiera continues his story saying that the indigenous people’s “natural hate for unnatural sin” drove them so that, “spontaneously and violently, they searched for all the rest that they would know who were infected”. After all, D’Anghiera mentions that “only the nobles and the gentlemen practiced that kind of desire. [… The] indigenous people knew that sodomy gravely offended God. [… And that these acts provoked] the tempests that with thunder and lightning so frequently afflicted them, or the floods that drowned their fruits that had caused hunger and sickness.”[6]

      Um, no, he won the Heavy Weight Championship belt after fighting Apollo Creed twice…ignorant fucks…

    • 61North

      Earlier today I sent that link to a relative in SF and asked if her taxes weren’t quite high enough. I have yet to hear back. The relative in question is far left on most things but I do what I can to move the needle a bit and it’s SLOWLY working.

      • 61North

        I heard back.

        “Don’t get me started.”

        She is not pleased with all of this. Again, this is why we need to talk to people who don’t align with us instead of arguing arcane Georgist principles among the believers. As fun as it may be, however.

      • Ted S.

        There is no argument. Georgism is idiotic, should be dumped, and we can move on.

      • BakedPenguin

        We can keep our Monopoly games, though, right?

      • KromulentKristen

        I was watching the latest episode of Finding Your Roots and they had Andy Cohen on. He found out one of his ancestors was involved in a SCOTUS case where the government was prosecuting the ancestor for sugar price gouging & hoarding. SCOTUS ruled in favor of the ancestor.

        Do you think that very personal story moved Andy’s leftists needle any? Not sure.

        There was an episode of Who Do You Think You Are with Zooey Deschanel, and she found out her Quaker ancestors were in the thick of a battle with slave catchers. Anti-gun Zooey found out her ancestors provided shelter to some escaped slaves, who were armed & fighting for their lives against these slave catchers.

        I wonder if that story moved the needle for her on guns?

        But I agree with you that you get to these people on a personal level.

      • 61North

        School choice is one of those issues that many people get on a visceral level and the chance to convert people was, imo, badly botched in the past year. “We” allowed the debate to be framed in terms of transmission rates, classroom spacing and testing. The real issues was and remains that the education system continues to fail on a massive scale and now they’re doing worse than ever and want even more money to come back in order to perform marginally better in person. This is where you convert people and ask, ‘Hey, when’s little Tommy going back to school? Oh, his teacher wants a raise? Why, what did she to earn it? Are you getting a raise? Are you getting paid to teach your kid?”

      • creech

        On one of those Finding Your Roots, Gates is talking about how someone’s ancestor was fighting
        for his right to vote in post-reconstruction South. He says “the politicians” took away the black mens’ votes.
        I guess saying, “the Democrat Party” took away the votes was just a bridge too far.

  3. Count Potato

    Speaking of nuts….

    “.@ananavarro on. @GOPLeader Kevin McCarthy visiting Trump in Fla.: “It’s white slavery … He looks like he’s owned by his master, and his master is Donald Trump, and it’s pathetic.”

    https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1355201050924503042

    • CPRM

      We crazies are ready to say Dasvidaniya, I mean Adios, I am American, like you, not a Rushun Bot, to Trump, but they aren’t. He is the monster they see in the mirror……..oh that’s a good thread for SugarFree to pull on…

  4. Yusef drives a Kia

    Heavy stuff, thanks Messy!

    • rhywun

      . I asked for the address of where she would be, they said they could not give me the location address as it was confidential.

      Holy shit. Sorry about your country. We’re right behind you, I’m sure.

      • hayeksplosives

        That is some scary stuff. Chilling.

        Is this what it felt like to live in Eastern Europe post WWII as it dawned on the citizenry that people were being “disappeared” and that life as you knew it was ending, quietly and unreported by the local and world press?

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I ask the same question to myself.

        I’d have a hard time convicting if the guy went all Killdozer on the local police precinct. Disappearing people like that invites a strong response.

      • hayeksplosives

        Agreed.

      • slumbrew

        “convicting”.

        That’s cute, like he’d get a jury trial.

        “Indefinite detention under domestic terrorism laws for you!”

        (I’m assuming Canada already has some such terrible law)

  5. 61North

    MS,

    What are your thoughts on shunning by groups like Amish or FLDS or some hippie commune? Is it only acceptable if there’s a larger society to for the shunned to land in?

    • mexican sharpshooter

      First we need to establish why I want to live with the Amish, FLDS, or a hippie commune. Since I don’t have any reason to live with them, how they determine who gets in or expelled is on them.

      My issue is even if I am part of the community what I do with my property is my business and not the overall community’s, unless I am somehow infringing on somebody else’s property. For a benign example I despise HOAs and specifically chose to live in a neighborhood without one.

      Hoppe in a sense establishes that in the absence of authority, communities will segregate themselves from the rest of the world along some sort of lines—some might be along racial/ethnic lines. I personally don’t like that and will not associate with such people, but I accept people are free to be assholes.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        My issue is even if I am part of the community what I do with my property is my business and not the overall community’s, unless I am somehow infringing on somebody else’s property. For a benign example I despise HOAs and specifically chose to live in a neighborhood without one.

        In theory, I have no problem with restrictive covenants within a community. As long as the rules and restrictions are established beforehand and everybody is a willing participant, it simply transfers a few pieces of the “bundle of sticks” to the community rather than the property owner.

        What bothers me is 1) The rules changing after the purchase has been made; 2) gov’t requiring such covenants; and 3) HOAs creating this monitoring apparatus to micromanage the restrictions.

        If a group of Amish folks buy 500 acres in the middle of nowhere with the understanding that they are building an Amish community, I don’t really see the problem with either forcing somebody to sell when they are shunned or banning them from selling to the English. The issues arise when these rules are unspoken and not agreed to in advance.

      • Heroic Mulatto

        In theory, I have no problem with restrictive covenants within a community. As long as the rules and restrictions are established beforehand and everybody is a willing participant, it simply transfers a few pieces of the “bundle of sticks” to the community rather than the property owner.

        Ok, but then you still run into the ‘Give me your ball’ problem. Unless you can prove that the founders of the covenant are the ab origine owners of the property, then I don’t see how such restrictions are justified in the same way an AnCap would criticize the justification for taxation.

        Of course, in the US, this discussion is moot as, against the protestations of Jefferson, the majority of the Founders eliminated individual allodial title in the Constitution as the 5th A. clearly establishes these United States as the ultimate landlord through the Takings Clause.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      Cool article! My 3 year old loves disc golf and asks me to take her a few times each week. Good excuse to get out of the house. Helps her work on some fine motor skills (work in progress). And she gets to play at the playground after we get through 3 or 4 baskets. I’m really tempted to buy a portable basket to stick in the backyard so we can practice more.

      • Grumbletarian

        My BIL and I have picked this game up recently and are running with it. I have three more discs on order, and he wants to get a bigger bag like the one I have. Sneaky addictive fun.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        Yep.

        Disc golf is all the advantages of real golf, only without the high fees and country club dolts.

  6. nw

    I am unable from the article to determine whether you agree or disagree with Hoppe.
    I think it’s “disagree”, but I’m really not certain. I am willing to entertain an argument
    that I can’t read.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      I agree with him up to the point where he says the community can kick me out or tell me what I can do with my stuff.

      • BakedPenguin

        Hmm…

      • BakedPenguin

        Ah, shit.

  7. dbleagle

    Restricting Cowboys fans to within the borders of Texas is always appropriate,

    • westernsloper

      Word.

  8. db

    His outlook on various cultures aside, his advocacy of how decentralized communities is where I draw the line.

    I can’t parse this. What am I missing?

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Edited to add “can function”. This was more difficult than I thought it would be.

      • rhywun

        You need to stew on your articles for two and half years like I did.

  9. grrizzly

    Biden’s America. For the first time the TSA required me to put on a mask. Never happened when Trump was President: 8th flight since the start of the covid psychosis.

    • Mojeaux

      And you did it? Without telling them to go to hell and walking away?

      • Tundra

        If you gotta get somewhere, you gotta get somewhere.

      • Mojeaux

        He could drive.

        grrizzly’s the one always taking the Glibs to task for choosing to wear the mask to go along to get along. He may not mean to sound so self-righteous when he says it, but it comes across to me like that.

      • grrizzly

        I never implied that somebody should quit a job or divorce a spouse because of masks. All I do is not putting on a mask in a grocery store until I’m asked to. I was always very clear that I often put on a mask when asked. You talked about visiting a Walmart without a mask. And nothing happened. That’s where I’m at.

      • Mojeaux

        Yes, I visit lots of places without masks. I even went into Target and got stopped by a greeter. “Ma’am, do you have a mask?” “Yep, but can’t wear it.” And I felt cowardly for even saying that.

        Every time I go into a place without a mask, my heart’s in my throat. I’m doing something BAAAAAADDDDDD and I don’t get a thrill from the fight-or-flight transgressive bullshit. Too much “Oooooh, you’re going to the principal’s office!” and “You just wait till your dad gets home!” vibe.

        I do not have the balls to walk in proudly with body language that screams, “You just TRY to make me wear this mask.” And so I feel cowardly, for both my fear and my lack of don’t-give-a-damns.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Thats a small part of it for me. Mostly it’s that I don’t feel it’s my place to go against a business’s stated policy, shitty or no. It’s their choice to comply or not comply with the insanity. I don’t get to make that choice for them. When they comply, my options are either mask up or shop somewhere else. Granted, I’ll do what I can to maliciously comply. However, I’m not a 20-something single guy. I’m a 30-something married father of two kids under 4. I’m not in a position to play rebel. Getting banned from Target for making a scene impacts more than just me. Getting recorded and doxxed for making a scene could usher in some unpleasant times for my family.

        Also, I’m trying to get in and out with the least inconvenience possible. Having to have some conversation with a teenage greeter about the ins and outs of mask efficacy is a massive inconvenience. I’ll take the inconvenience of the mask over the inconvenience of a confrontation with somebody who can’t actually change anything.

      • Mojeaux

        Yes, and I agree, which is why I’m so conflicted.

        I am NOT going to make a scene no matter what, for the same reasons. I want to be inconspicuous, but I can’t stand that fucking mask and what it represents.

        So. What do to do, what to do. Almost everything in me says, “Wear the mask!” Call it anything. It doesn’t matter; I just don’t want to “get in trouble.”

        But there’s that little part of me that says, “This is not right.” And I don’t wear the mask because not wearing it is, in principle, the right thing to do. I’ve done the right thing before when my heart’s in my throat, and never regretted it.

        This world’s too dangerous and lousy with Karens too willing to ruin your life. So it’s an internal battle, every time I go somewhere. Fortunately for me, I don’t go lots of places.

      • rhywun

        Me, it’s just I don’t much like interacting with nasty people or putting nice people in a situation where they have hector me so I wear the fucking thing where I’m told to.

        I do have my limits, though. If it comes down to some command to wear them outdoors that’s a No from me.

      • grrizzly

        I actually thought your attitude to masks was similar to mine.

      • Mojeaux

        Not so militant. Sometimes I wear it, sometimes I don’t. If I am in a situation where I feel like it is in my best interest to submit, I do so.

        What I DON’T do is chastise the folks here for submitting because they’re trying to keep their heads down because they have too much to lose, or because they’re respecting a business’s wish to not get in trouble.

      • grrizzly

        We’ll be required to wear masks as long as we comply whether I sound self-righteous or not.

      • Mojeaux

        Yes.

        For perspective: glibs isn’t just a place of refuge for me and you all aren’t names on a screen. I care what you think. And so, when someone makes a point that I think, “I must practice this in my life to make me a better person,” I try to do that.

        When I decide to mask up or not, I think about you and the fact that you have already been where we are now and don’t want to do it again. Every time I’m deciding whether to mask up or not, I think about you and where you came from.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Cosigned. Grizz, you’re the bear sitting on one of my shoulders saying “the line much be drawn here! This far, no further!”

      • westernsloper

        Was it Italy that lifted all its restrictions when the people said enough? DDG seems to not let me find that story.

      • DEG

        Floating around on various states’ Reopen pages are pictures and videos of widespread Italian disobedience. According to the pictures and videos, about 50,000 restaurants opened up in defiance of restrictions. I found a news story about it.

        The Italian government has announced a loosening of restrictions. Whether or not the protests have anything to do with the loosening is not stated in the Reuters article.

      • westernsloper

        Yep, this is where I agree with Grizz. I am also a weak kneed mask complier to keep my job. But I also know every one else that works there is of like mind and if we all just stopped nobody would lose their jobs. It is really an interesting study in ridiculous compliance.

      • BakedPenguin

        Europe has had a bunch of anti-lockdown riots recently. the UK, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, Czechland. People are pissed off.

      • DEG

        We could some more disobedience and protests here in the USA. Europe shouldn’t be getting ahead of us there.

        There is a grocery store where I shop without a mask. The most I’ve gotten from the staff is a polite, “Would you like a mask, sir?” to which I respond, “No thanks.” We then wish each other a nice day and go on with our lives.

        At my gym, there is near 100% compliance (yep, even me, though my bandanna is below my nose) with the mask orders/ordinances/blah blah blah in the lobby area. Once you get past the lobby area? 95% to 98% non-compliance.

        There is a restaurant I like where they are under the hammer of both the state and city government. I wear a mask when walking in and out. I generally don’t when going to the bathroom, and no one has said anything to me about it.

      • Mojeaux

        I have begun to see some noses peeking out over their masks. I dunno. Maybe that’s where it starts.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        I have begun to see some noses peeking out over their masks.

        Yep. And nobody hassles you for it. It checks the box for getting into most places to simply have a mask on your face. Like I mentioned before, malicious compliance.

        Only one person (wife excepted) has said anything, and I was thisclose to making a scene when she started talking to me. By the grace of God alone, i was able to walk away with a snort of derision only.

  10. Tundra

    You go to sell your property and the community determines they don’t like the buyer for some reason.

    So what? What power do they actually have? And isn’t it up to the buyer to do their due diligence?

    Not trying to be belligerent, but I can’t get to there from the Hoppe quotes.

    Thanks for making me think on a Saturday, asshole!

    • mexican sharpshooter

      So what? What power do they actually have? And isn’t it up to the buyer to do their due diligence?

      Exactly!

      And you? Belligerent? Never.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      You may have made a more convincing argument than my wife did for getting a minivan

      • Tundra

        I would drive such a beast in a heartbeat.

      • BakedPenguin

        That’s probably as cool as you’re going to get with a minivan.

      • Mojeaux

        LOL I told my husband the other day I didn’t want a crossover.

        “Why not? They’re SUVs.”

        “They’re glorified minivans.”

        Probably more station wagon than minivan, but whatever.

      • DEG

        Crossovers look like a car that is trying to be a station wagon but is afraid the cool kids will make fun of it.

        If I wanted a station wagon, I’d buy one and I wouldn’t care what the cool kids think.

      • Muzzled Woodchipper

        Outbacks rule.

        If I didn’t need towing capacity, I’d still be driving an Outback.

        And I’m not worried about getting laughed at. This was my first car. I’ve already taken my lumps.

      • BakedPenguin

        A lot of crossovers look like oversized Minis. Some of them apparently are.

      • slumbrew

        Not a minivan, but I would very much like an AMG wagon.

        Seats 5, 64 cu. ft. of cargo with the seats down.

        603 HP, 0-60 in 3.4 seconds. Plus, drift mode.

      • C. Anacreon

        I was told years ago the reason soccer moms prefer minivans and SUVs to crossovers and station wagons is the height of the back seats. Because with high-seat SUVs and minivans, they don’t have to bend over and stick their ass up in the air for everyone to see when buckling the kids into child seats.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        This is correct. Less about the modesty and more about avoiding the core workout.

      • Cy

        I like them because of the sliding doors and the push button open and close.

        When you take out the 3rd row you can fit a ridiculous amount of stuff in the back and it’s not as high as a truck bed.

        The larger V6 engines make for decent towing motors on smaller trailers and most models have fairly simple hitch/receiver installations.

        Not low sitting.

        MPG isn’t nearly as bad as most full size pickups.

        Ticket/pullover chance is lower. When was the last time you saw a minivan pulled over?

        Being able to comfortably transport 7 people is pretty nice.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Well that convinced me I need to buy a truck.

      • hayeksplosives

        I’m holding out for a Tesla Cybertruck (natch). Made the downpayment and got my place in line!

        It’ll be another couple of years, but that timing will work out alright (as far as I can predict).

      • westernsloper

        *makes note to loiter in more pre-school parking lots*

      • Tres Cool

        As opposed to just the few you currently haunt ?

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Don’t they make an SRT Caravan?

    • DEG

      Chrysler and GM took bail-outs, but Chrysler is working hard to make amends for that.

      Fuck Ford for what they’re doing to the Mustang. The 2021 that I bought will probably the last Mustang. The Mach-E “Mustang” isn’t a Mustang, it’s a piece of shit.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        If they had called it anything else, it probably would’ve been a hit (if it doesn’t suck) . Co-opting the mustang name to push that mom-mobile was a huge mistake.

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        Much like Porche making a grocery getter Crossover SUV. Gross. Porches are for douchey, newly divorced middle-aged men and douchey trust-fund kids to wrap around telephone poles while traveling at inadvisable speeds.

      • slumbrew

        *hides browser tab of used Porsche Macans for sale*

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Refermentation? Ew.

      Theme From the Bottom: Mango Raspberry Cheesecake Smoothie Sour Ale

      Eeeeew.

      Okay, I’ll try to find it.

  11. The Late P Brooks

    It is a traditional Czech Pilsner as it implies on the label.

    Sounds like something i could drink.

    • LCDR_Fish

      My buddy built the bar and the patio during the last shutdown. He’s in the process of expanding the patio and planning to lease the unit next to his (and apparently the wall will be knocked down) to make an even bigger space with loft, pool tables, etc.

    • DEG

      That looks good. Kudos to your buddy for what he is doing.

    • westernsloper

      ?

  12. The Late P Brooks

    When you put the Hellcat in the minivan, put it BEHIND the front seats. Mid engine, rear wheel drive, FTW!

    • Tundra

      Fucks up the storage space though. I want to be able to pick up plywood and then race the fucker on the way home from Home Depot!

      • Mojeaux

        Dodge Ram to the rescue.

        Oh, yes, it’s a piece of shit. The dashboard’s cracked out completely and it has electrical problems like crazy and the heater doesn’t work, but damned if I don’t feel totally cool driving it.

        XX didn’t want to drive it at first at all, but now she’s a convert too.

  13. Tres Cool

    Where’s Pie ? Romanian ski forecast.

    • BakedPenguin

      You’re not going to get pic-a-nic baskets if you don’t at least try.

    • KromulentKristen

      He’s just trying to beat the après crowd!

  14. The Late P Brooks

    Fucks up the storage space though. I want to be able to pick up plywood and then race the fucker on the way home from Home Depot!

    Put a trailer hitch on it.

  15. Stinky Wizzleteats

    An excellent analysis of the pluses and minuses of short selling and why what Robinhood did was so controversial from…Jimmy Dore’s show?

    https://youtu.be/qzG3DwMjLj4

    It’s a good watch for the nuts and bolts of the situation.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    I like station wagons. I want one of these

    I wouldn’t leave it original, though.

    • mikey

      That is nice. Always liked those GM wheels.

    • blackjack

      They made a two door wagon in ’65. I shoulda bought 10 of them while they were still around, although they were never very common. They look like

    • kinnath

      CAFE standards killed the station wagon in the US.

      Minimum required gas mileage is based on the footprint of the vehicle in square inches. Cars have a higher minimum than trucks. So an SUV with the same footprint as a station wagon gets a lower minimum required gas mileage. Thus, no one will make a station wagon. They will only make SUVs and Crossovers.

      • slumbrew

        Explains why the few wagons are from luxury brands.

    • rhywun

      No comment from me. I have no idea who that is.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Ditto. I’m not sure if I’m just behind the times or if this is somebody “famous” only in a few circles.

  17. westernsloper

    ……or at least openly tolerate unsavory people. *leans left and rips one* Here pull my finger.

    That is some deep philosiphising for a Saturday. I think I am going to be an anachrocrapitalist. The beverage I stuck in my build your own six pack this morning for MS’s weekly contribution was this.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Awesome!

    • Tres Cool

      Speaking of pull my finger

  18. mikey

    Tundra.
    You asked about car-related youtube channels.
    I enjoy this one. A rich Limey with a pretty impressive garage. He’s wealthy obvously, but down-to-earth and really loves cars.
    Ride along as he drives his Ferraris and Lambos on thousand-mile trips.
    https://youtube.com/c/Harrysgarage

  19. Mojeaux

    @banginglc1, did you get my email the other day?

  20. hayeksplosives

    Gavin Newsom is still aware that someone, somewhere might be having fun, so he’s ensuring that such as calamity does not happen.

    On the same day that outdoor dining resumed in Los Angeles County for the first time in nearly two months, public health officials announced Friday that restaurants are banned from turning on their televisions for customers.

    The county issued an order Friday which bans restaurants from allowing television screens that broadcast programming to patrons in an effort to keep restaurants from becoming overcrowded for sporting events, such as the upcoming Super Bowl.

    “Televisions or any other screens that are used to broadcast programming must be removed from the area or turned off,” the order reads. “This provision is effective until further notice.”

    Do you want a gubernatorial recall election, Gov. Newsom? Because THIS is how you get a gubernatorial recall election.

    • westernsloper

      Wow.

    • rhywun

      OFFS.

      I’m surprised he didn’t mandate compulsory viewing of CNN or MSNBC.

      • hayeksplosives

        No doubt. Running CNN and MSNBC might be more effective at crowd dispersal than that high frequency noise only tends and under can hear.

        Or “Active Denial” systems (high powered microwaves that tingle the skin unpleasantly)..Still more humane than CNN.

      • BakedPenguin

        Microwave weapons are a thing.

      • slumbrew

        I suspect she knows more about them than most people.

      • BakedPenguin

        Agreed – no disrespect meant, Hi-X

      • slumbrew

        She’s quietly the scariest Glib 😉

      • Ted S.

        You’re not frightened by my music links?

      • slumbrew

        Disgust and fear are different emotions.

      • BakedPenguin

        Ted, ABBA and Rick Astley don’t scare me. Just to prove it to myself, I watched Waterloo from the ’74 Eurovision. Wow, those ladies were in good shape.

        Slumbrew: right on both counts.

      • BakedPenguin

        Oops, too early.

        There was a claim that in the recent China/India border dispute, China used them against Indian troops.

    • Ownbestenemy

      LOL…get fucked Cali…get fucked.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      I think that’s the doing of that whey-faced bitch Barbara Ferrer.

      • hayeksplosives

        The governor could lean on her if he wanted to.

        The fuckin Puitans won after all.

        Time to doff our Cavalier hats and resist the Roundheads. Cromwell has gotten rid of King Trump, but he’s replaced the King by his own personal rule as Lord Protector.

      • Chafed

        Yup. This is specific to LA. Garcetti & Co. saw all of Newsom’s errors and said hold my beer.

  21. Tres Cool

    Re: Trash- “Also, I’m trying to get in and out with the least inconvenience possible.”

    ^^^That.

    The Kroger nearest me has me beer inside. They also have a strict mask policy. I want their beer and to give them my money in a consensual, capitalistic exchange. Im not going to argue with some security guard, cashier, or cart-jockey over the effectiveness of the state-mandated policy. I want my 30-pack (or Tall Cans if they’re 10/$10), a can of dip, and get my ass back to the house with as little hassle as possible.

    • blackjack

      Out here, they brutally fuck over the business for allowing customers to be maskless. It makes it easy for me. I wear the horse feeder whenever I’m in a place that’ll get screwed if I don’t and they get caught. I have to wear them all day at work, but I drop them under my nose when there’s no big shots around. I never wear them anywhere else.

    • Chafed

      The hero we need?

  22. The Late P Brooks

    “Televisions or any other screens that are used to broadcast programming must be removed from the area or turned off,” the order reads. “This provision is effective until further notice.”

    Can you cover it with a “RECALL NEWSOM” sign?

    • Ownbestenemy

      Well, news of Florida and their success with being open might accidentally be broadcasted to people otherwise in the dark. We cannot have that. The only news the citizens of California can consume is from the State.

    • hayeksplosives

      My local winery is festooned with pics of Newsom wearing a red clown nose and urging people to sign the recall petition.

      There are “speakeasies” popping up where you really do need the password to get in the side door.

      People who thought of themselves as law-abiding a year ago are now giving up on following these BS orders.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        “Swordfish!”

  23. The Late P Brooks

    I’m surprised he didn’t mandate compulsory viewing of CNN or MSNBC.

    “Attention, Citizens. Stand by for an important announcement from the Ministry of Truth.”

    • hayeksplosives

      And yet, half the population continues to elect these petty tyrants year after year.

      I’m hoping that will change as more people get tired of the worn out scare stories about how “the other side” are greedy racist trans phones.

      Even libertarians are labeled as heartless Scrooges. “Live and let live” is heretical to these jerks.

      • juris imprudent

        I’m kinda curious, in that very morbid way, what group is going to take the oppression spot-light next. Pedophiles? Sheep-fuckers? What microscopically marginal group will be the next Christmas ornament at the top of the victim stack?

      • slumbrew

        Pedophiles. They’ve already started – “minor-attracted” or somesuch bullshit.

        I suspect that will be a bridge too far;. “love is love” isn’t going to resonate when they’re talking about your child.

  24. Ownbestenemy

    Brisket broken down. Flat is in the brine for either corned beef or if I choose, a pastrami knock off. The point was halved and will make a braised beef with veggies tonight. Also chopped some up with a bit of fat on it to make more beef stock with some soup bones.

    Pulled down the 8ft mirror in the bathroom, wife wants individual mirrors. I don’t ask why…I just do.

    Onto a afternoon beer.

  25. kinnath

    Road trip report: Today’s haul is 8 cases quart jars; 15 cases pint jars; 8 cases wide-mouth pint jars; 12 cases half-pint jars; and 13 cases quilted half-pint jars.

    Four towns; four Walmarts; five hours on the road; and half a tank of gas.

    With last week’s haul, we have enough for a year for two people (at least).

    • The Hyperbole

      you eat a lot of jars.

      • slumbrew

        Pfftt, get a load of this guy ^^^

        He’s not eating the jars, you fool – they’re for storing his urine, so the government can’t steal his precious bodily fluids.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Oh okay…

        For a second I thought you were going to suggest Kinnath drinks his own urine. Which is preposterous.

      • slumbrew

        Not _unaged_

        It needs time to develop a proper bouquet.

        I can’t believe I need to explain this to a bunch of alleged libertarians.

      • juris imprudent

        Pssst – you forgot about dissolving the colloidal silver in it.

      • slumbrew

        That’s for the secondary fermentation stage.

    • kinnath

      Now all I need is a 20-year supply of lids.

  26. trshmnstr the terrible

    nice! I may need to drive out into the boonies to do the same. No quarts or pints to be found in the immediate area.

    • kinnath

      I used Walmart’s online store. Select pick up locations from small towns and see if anything was in stock. I can confirm the website will limit what you can buy for curbside pickup. In all four stores, there was more on the shelf than the website said I could order.

      The checkout staff were all pleasant and one guy talked about having cabinets full of jars because is has a big garden.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    Even libertarians are labeled as heartless Scrooges. “Live and let live” is heretical to these jerks.

    Everybody knows libertarians are completely devoid of empathy. Not like progressives and liberals, who care deeply about the suffering of other people, and would never do anything to cause harm.

    • slumbrew

      They will gladly spend every single penny of theirs yours to take care of other people.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    Minimum required gas mileage is based on the footprint of the vehicle in square inches. Cars have a higher minimum than trucks. So an SUV with the same footprint as a station wagon gets a lower minimum required gas mileage. Thus, no one will make a station wagon. They will only make SUVs and Crossovers.

    I remember seeing that a long time ago. The minivan was essentially a CAFE workaround.

    • kinnath

      Yes, same thing.

      It’s the only way to get high-capacity with an engine big enough to meet people’s performance expectations.

  29. juris imprudent

    If this is populist representation, I’ll hand back in the pitchfork and torch.

    “Q is a patriot. We know that for sure, but we do not know who Q is,” Greene said. “Many of the things that he has given clues about and talked about on 4chan and other forums have really proven to be true.”

    and

    “There’s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take this global cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophiles out, and I think we have the president to do it,” she says.

    You could, in theory, have great policy chops on top of that – but somehow I really don’t think that is the case.

    • l0b0t

      I’m pretty open to Robert Barnes’ interpretation (often voiced on the Viva Frei podcast) that “Q” is a very successful operation to misdirect and discredit people who would otherwise be expending energy advocating for actual policy reform.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    A cabal of Satanist pedophiles is no worse than the Green New Dealers.

  31. The Late P Brooks

    Today’s haul is 8 cases quart jars; 15 cases pint jars; 8 cases wide-mouth pint jars; 12 cases half-pint jars; and 13 cases quilted half-pint jars.

    Hoarder!

    • kinnath

      It’s the only sensible thing to do.

      It could be worse. I could be a scalper.

      • slumbrew

        Related:

        this made me laugh, even though it’s a total scumbag move.