Lime in the Coconut

by | May 8, 2021 | Beer, Food & Drink, History | 212 comments

I’d link back to the article I wrote a couple years ago on Cinco de Mayo but it turns out it was long enough it fell into that abyss…so I’ll just write another .

This is my review of Firestone Walker 805 Cerveza:

Tacos were not something I was feeling on the 5th so I instead ate some Thai Noodles.  Is that the same thing?  Certainly not.  I did notice the utter lack of Corona available at the store that day.  One thing that always bugged me about Mexican beer is the lime.  Why do people do this?

There are a number of ludicrous sounding theories about this.  One in particular being Mesoamerican Indians used limes to combat bacterial growth, so naturally Mexican Indians waited until Spain conquered them to put limes in beer to kill the bacteria in a beverage originally brewed to combat waterborne illnesses.  The beer is already sterile and limes are not indigenous to the Americas, so that makes no sense.

Another is the cap may be rusted and the acid in the lime neutralizes the oxidized metal residue left on the bottle, except modern bottle caps now have a epoxy liner to prevent that.  The last one is to mask the skunkiness because Corona uses clear bottles except other well-known Mexican beers use brown/green bottles, taste more or less the same, and they still hand you a lime wedge.

The most likely sounding explanation is in 1981 a bartender bet his friend if he put a lime wedge in the bottle it would start a trend.  This is probably the dumbest explanation but seems like its the most likely because I was biased towards this being a marketing ploy.  One that even Corona themselves appear to have taken very seriously.

Also, “lime burn” is a thing.

What? It isn’t….MY fault you’re a bitch.

This practice ultimately took a life of its own and now hispters are adding lime flavoring to beer marketed towards people that might otherwise buy a Corona.  Which seems a bit sad to me because 805 is actually a totally decent hot weather + spicy food beer on its own.  Throwing some chemical in it to make it smell vaguely like a lime triggers the image of John Stossel standing in front of a table filled with every food product I buy with him saying, “but …everything else you buy…also contains chemicals…”. Somehow it still seems like a bridge too far. Firestone Walker 805 Cerveza:  2.2/5

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212 Comments

  1. blackjack

    I just drank a fifth of mayonnaise. Did I do it wrong?

    • blackjack

      BTW, I drink Stella. it comes in green bottles which block some small amount of light. I only buy twelve packs because they are completely shrouded in cardboard. My wife sometimes buys me 6 packs and they are quite skunky at least three quarters of the time. I think the light=skunky thing is legit. I can’t drink Coronas either way. Tastes terrible and the limes don’t really help.

      • KSuellington

        Do you guys shop at Costco? If so, up here they usually have Trumer Pils for 24 bucks a case. You should try it out. Also green bottles so I never buy it in the sixer, but it is a good easy drinking pils when it is not skunked.

      • blackjack

        I will try the Trumer pils. I avoid Costco because it’s crazy crowded down here. It’s like going to Disneyland with the lines and rules and crowds. Same with Ikea, except Ikea has absolutely nothing I would ever buy anyway.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Either really early or really late (or delivery) is the only way I can stand Costco; ditto Trader Joe’s.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I’m done with the local TJ’s. They still want you to stand 10ft back in the line while scanning items then call you forward to pay. Meanwhile the rest of their store has returned to the rat warren level customer density.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Locally they’ve eased up some, can bring one’s own bags again. I was pretty put off a few trips ago, though, being treated like a diarrheic (sp?) hobo. Some serious internal debate about worthiness for a while.

      • Chafed

        That’s interesting. My local one now bags my items in the bags I brought with me. They didn’t do that last week.

      • KSuellington

        I do see it in boxed 12ers at the market as well if you can’t brave Costco. We have three hungry boys, so I do a Costco run every two months and spend 6-900 to stock up so I don’t need to go back and brave Costco for two months. Up here it isn’t as bad , I have never waited in a line to get in, and checkout is never more than 1 or 2 people in front of me.

      • blackjack

        The internet says that Von’s carries it. I’ll look for it next time. Right now I’m heading out to go to Ventura for Dia de Madre.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        They do. Happy early Mother’s Day!

      • blackjack

        You too.

      • DEG

        I’ve had Trumer’s beer in Austria. They make good stuff.

      • KSuellington

        Austria is one of the few west European countries I’ve yet to set foot in. It’s definitely top on the list to get to one day if the world ever opens up again.

      • DEG

        Austria is a good place to visit. I’ve been there three times, most of the time in Vienna as I have friends there.

      • Gustave Lytton

        I liked Vienna. I’d go back in a heartbeat.

      • Fatty Bolger

        Vienna is amazing. Anybody visiting Europe who has never been there should include it in their travel plan.

      • Master JaimeRoberto (royal we/us)

        What do you call a good looking woman in Austria?

        A tourist.

      • DEG

        There are a lot of good looking women in Austria that aren’t tourists, or even expats.

      • Chafed

        Pics?

      • Nephilium

        Light struck is the technical term for skunky. It’s an interaction between UV light and one of the acids in hops. For some of the clear bottled beers, the big boys have researched a hop extract that is not susceptible to UV light, and others have invested in UV blocking clear bottles. That’s also a reason that cans have started becoming more popular, no UV light, cheaper shipping and packaging costs, with a higher initial outlay. You’ve also got mobile canning lines to help breweries without their own lines to be able to self distribute (in areas that’s permitted), or sell beer to go that’s not in a growler.

      • robc

        Of course it is legit. There is a old video on youtube of a couple of homebrewers testing it out with Sierra Nevada. About 20 mins in the sun makes if foul.

  2. DEG

    The most likely sounding explanation is in 1981 a bartender bet his friend if he put a lime wedge in the bottle it would start a trend. This is probably the dumbest explanation but most seems like its the most likely because I was biased towards this being a marketing ploy. One that even Corona themselves appear to have taken very seriously.

    This is my preferred explanation.

  3. Toxteth O'Grady

    “beer?! Talk about bloat!”

    Beer is very jovial, and proof that God wants us to be fat.

  4. Not Adahn

    Why is a tire company making beer?

  5. ruodberht

    One thing that bugged me about Mexican beer is the Mexican beer.

    • Nephilium

      What for you hate Germans?

  6. KSuellington

    Pacifico in the brown bottle is the best Mexican beer (although Bohemia comes close). It is one of the best hot day, easy drinking beers on the planet. For some weird reason,I think it is best in the returnable bottles in Mexico. I think a lime and salt work well with it, although it’s just perfect on its own. It puts Corona to shame.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Love Pacifico, and Negra Modelo too, especially with food.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Better in Mexico? It’s one of Constellation’s fake Grupo Modelo beers in the US market so no surprise there.

    • blackjack

      I drink Pacifico when I eat at Mexican places that only serve Mexican beer. At the Wop places with Wop beer, it’s Peroni’s

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Mm, Peroni. Good with pesto.

    • KSuellington

      Negra Modelo is definitely in the top three Mexican beers, yess, with food good, but not as much a hot day beer. I think it tastes the same in Mexico as the US when you get it in the non returnable bottles there. For some reason the returnable Mexican bottles just have that certain special taste. They are a good deal heavier than the non returnable kind, don’t know if that maybe lets even less light through or something. It’s weird. Perôni’s is a fine easy drinking Italian.

      • DEG

        Negra Modelo is good.

  7. Not Adahn

    he most likely sounding explanation is in 1981 a bartender bet his friend if he put a lime wedge in the bottle it would start a trend.

    Well, there was a hack writer that bet he could make a million dollars by starting a religion…

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Who are we talking about, George Lucas, L. Ron Hubbard, Karl Marx, or JK Rowling?

      • westernsloper

        Heinlein

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Touchè

  8. The Late P Brooks

    Why is a tire company making beer?

    Have you tried to dispose of a set of used up tires lately?

  9. Gustave Lytton

    Got most of the taxes done today except for some minor details. Looks like I fucked up and we’ll get a refund. Also noticed my total income was the lowest in five years.

  10. Toxteth O'Grady

    For Mojeaux (please excuse the aside): I skipped college graduation and don’t regret it; I wouldn’t blame her given this shitshow of a year+. Also, had forum login problem last night, but anyway, q.v. now.

    • Cy Esquire

      I skipped off to community college my sophomore year. Looking back, I regret not going to prom or even finishing my high school diploma. Granted, I think my life would’ve gone very differently had I not skipped out of highschool so early.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        “Side effects from skipping the prom.”

        That sounds cool, actually.

      • Gender Traitor

        I regret not going to prom, too, but it was because nobody asked me. 🙁

      • Mojeaux

        She went to prom this year and had a meh time. She said, “At least I can say I went to one.”

        She hates her age group/cohort (so celebrating with her fellow inmates is not desirable). She hated school. She has test anxiety out the wazoo. She is easily overwhelmed. Everything about school just tortured her. I’m not going to make her walk because it’s not about me, but I did say I think she’d regret not doing so.

        Now I wonder if that’s true. Maybe she WOULDN’T regret it. She just wants to get it over with.

      • Nephilium

        There was something I read recently that talked quite a bit about subjects like this.

        One of the only other sites that I’ll read the comments on.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        That is, your specific track sounds cool. 🙂

    • Mojeaux

      I went to my college graduation because it was such a hard fight for me and I wanted my family to know I did it even when they thought I couldn’t. I would have regretted not going.

      But my kid is not me and I finally had to admit I don’t understand her in the least bit. I can only celebrate her accomplishments with her and back off praising her for things she doesn’t think are praiseworthy. Sadly, I have to be told which things those are.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Awww! I’m getting verklempt…

        GT, I skipped the prom too.

        I’m glad I didn’t go to John Hughes’s high schools. Yeesh.

      • UnCivilServant

        I didn’t go to prom. I don’t regret it because I know me and I know I’d have been miserable.

        I did go to my college graduation, because I was the first in my family to graduate college, and it was important to the rest of them.

        They handed me an empty faux-leather bifold with a congratulations letter because the individual diplomas were not printed yet. When it was mailed to me, the post office bent the envelope. There’s still a bent corner on the pice of paper even after years of behind behind glass.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Aw! ?

      • Gender Traitor

        I could easily have skipped my college commencement. Much too large a graduating class – it had to be split into multiple ceremonies, even using the big basketball arena. I can’t even remember if we walked across stage. If we did, I’m virtually certain it would have been a “dummy” diploma we were handed. Meh speaker – some chick uni prez picked because she was a chick. Of course, I had senioritis something fierce, which I hadn’t had in high school. HS was, surprisingly, a much more pleasant experience for me – the trials of adolescence notwithstanding – simply because I’d found my niche.

      • UnCivilServant

        The two people who spoke at my commencement were Ex-President Bubba and some Japanese guy getting an honorary doctorate. The Japanese guy was more interesting a speaker.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Uninteresting speaker might be why I skipped mine, come to think of it. If it had been Conan O’Brien, of course I would have gone.

      • Cannoli

        The speaker at my college graduation was Arne Duncan (Obama’s Sec. of Ed.). He got included in a Stossel montage of terrible commencement speakers for that year.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Ugh.

      • hayeksplosives

        I told my parents not to bother with coming up for my college graduation. I had difficult finals to get through, and the day of, during, and after graduation I spent in the company of my friends who’d been through the same EE classes that I’d survived.

        I knew I’d see my parents again but that I’d likely never see my classmates after that day.

        No regrets.

      • prolefeed

        I didn’t bother showing up for my college graduation. I found out months later I hadn’t technically graduated due to a 1 credit bullshit lecture course where the sole criteria was attendance. I’d missed one too many lectures.

      • The Hyperbole

        I got my degree with one credit less than was technically required. I dropped out mid semester my first attempt and never finished the “introduction to college” 1-credit class. When my advisor figured it out she wisely determined that having me take a “how to schedule your classes” course as my final class would be pretty silly.

  11. Cy Esquire

    Dos Equis and lime on a 100 degree plus day is the beverage of the gods.

  12. DEG

    OT: ATF’s proposed rules on 80% lowers are out.

    It looks to me like they will still be legal but as soon as you complete a build, a FFL holder must mark the receiver with a serial number and other information.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Looked at 80% Arms and they’re already selling 20% and 0% receivers.

      Might just pull the trigger on the 80%, even with backorder.

      • tripacer

        I think they’ve been selling 0% receivers for a while. They had them on there, I assume as a joke, when I bought a box of 80% aluminum pieces a year or 2 ago.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        0%? So its an aluminum block?

      • Not Adahn

        I see you’re not signed up for tomorrow.

      • UnCivilServant

        I wasn’t planning on shooting tomorrow. I wanted to use this weekend to focus on getting something written.

      • Not Adahn

        Well, just FYI: they’re alternating steel Sundays with other sports.

      • westernsloper

        A true 0% would be a pamphlet on ore extraction.

    • LCDR_Fish

      Looks like it’s retroactive too – really dumb.

  13. ignoreLander

    One thing that always bugged me about Mexican beer is the lime. Why do people do this?

    Because it tastes good? Do you ever put hot sauce, or salt, or mustard, on anything you eat? Because it’s the same thing…. We use ingredients we like to enhance our enjoyment of certain foods.

    • Cy Esquire

      Lime in a good salsa or guac is a must.

    • blackjack

      I grill chicken for tacos with it. Stab the meat and shove minced garlic in it, douse it liberally with lime juice and sprinkle ground red pepper on it. Makes some killer tacos. That said, if you can’t drink a beer without limes, it’s a shitty beer. Same with whiskey. Go ahead and mix coke in your JD, I’m gonna drink single malt neat.

      • l0b0t

        I’ve never been fond of cola as a mixer. To me the result invariably just tastes like flat cola.

      • Nephilium

        There are times a sweetened carbonated beverage accentuate the liquor (looks over at a well built gin and tonic), but quite a few two part drinks exist to hide poor flavors of cheap liquor (looks over at the Raymond Chandler gimlet). Beer is the one thing where I randomly have to request no random fruit be hung from the glass though.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      I thought it had something to do with repelling insects, however ineffectively.

      • blackjack

        When I went to Taos, we ate at a place that had bags of water hanging all over the place on the outdoor patio. I asked them and they said it to baffle the eyes of the flies. I thought that was pretty cool, but then Mythbusters disabused me of the idea.

    • commodious spittoon

      Exactly! Like clam broth and tomato sauce to improve cervezas.

      • Nephilium

        /pours commodious a chelada.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      Where did I imply it was wrong?

      Serious question.

      • juris imprudent

        Ah, so things that bug you aren’t things you think might just be a little wrong. So pineapple on pizza bugs you?

      • Francisco d'Anconia

        No! Pineapple on pizza is wrong. And I fully support legislation making both illegal and punishable by death (by bunga bunga)

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Oddly enough, it doesn’t bother me at all. Pineapple is a legitimately weird food. While I wouldn’t put it on anything other than Al Pastor, that doesn’t mean other people aren’t legitimately weird either. Something that bugs me personally does not mean I want everyone else to stop doing it. I just take solace in knowing I am right.

        That said, deep dish may be delicious but it is not pizza.

      • juris imprudent

        Oh look at the diplomat here!

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Okay I’ll say something controversial:

        The Beatles are a boy band.
        The Rolling Stones are 10 good songs wrapped in 1000 shitty songs.
        Woody Allen isn’t funny, he’s creepy.
        Move over Einstein, because Stanley Kubrick is apparently a genius.
        John Wayne was a hack, then again so is Spike Lee.
        In-N-Out is overrated, Five Guys is overpriced, and Whataburger is nonexistent.
        Radiohead is a bunch of retarded stoners.
        Justin Beiber is a lesbian.
        Weezer should be shot. The entire band. Repeatedly.

      • The Hyperbole

        When are you going to get to the controversial stuff?

      • Francisco d'Anconia

        Yes
        10 is at least too generous by 9
        Yes
        Meh
        Half right
        Yes
        Yes
        Yes
        No opinion

        Also, Pink Floyd only has one good song. Second most overrated band after The Stones

      • mexican sharpshooter

        When are you going to get to the controversial stuff?

        Okay…People simping for Tulsi Gabbard are as insufferable as people simping for Elon Musk.
        Ford or Chevy? Both made in Mexico.
        Glocks are fine, but their online fanboys make HK people seem reasonable.
        Target sells Chinese made shit to people that went to college.
        Stop defending cargo shorts as a fashionable. You wear them because you are either overweight, because you EDC a junk drawer, but probably both.

      • Sean

        Stop defending cargo shorts as a fashionable. You wear them because you are either overweight, because you EDC a junk drawer, but probably both.

        Who said they were fashionable?

        Nope.
        Nope.

        Let’s hear your take on the Sig fanboys.

      • DEG

        Ford or Chevy? Both made in Mexico.

        I think my Mustang was assembled in that Flat Rock plant in Michigan. Maybe some parts are made in Mexico, but final assembly is in Michigan. Note I’m talking about the Mustang, not the crossover electric abomination Ford is trying to pass off as a Mustang. That vehicle is made in Mexico.

        Glocks are fine, but their online fanboys make HK people seem reasonable.

        I know some HK fans that are… vociferous. I know some Glock fans that are also vociferous. I’m not sure which are worse. Full disclosure: I own neither Glocks nor HKs.

        At least you didn’t say anything about Lee-Enfields.

      • Sean

        “Full disclosure: I own neither Glocks nor HKs.”

        *falls out of chair*

      • mexican sharpshooter

        Let’s hear your take on the Sig fanboys.

        The only fanboys with grayer hair shoot 1911’s

        Ruger: Bill’s dead so now we can build anything, including Kel Tecs!
        S&W: At least we’re not Colt
        Colt: I can’t hear you complain over this pile of DOD contracts.
        Beretta: The cops said I was too dumb, the Army said I was too fat…or…I wish they issued me on in Afghanistan.

        That vehicle is made in Mexico.

        More a shot at truck owners.

      • ignoreLander

        You didn’t, actually. Saying you don’t understand is not the same as saying there’s something wrong it it. I don’t understand the appeal of Oasis. 100+ million albums would give me pause to think about that.

        Cheers Mexican, always enjoy your beer reviews.

  14. Mojeaux

    @Plinker

    16 hours and 1200 miles of driving today.

    Good man. I’ve done that before and I can empathize. I don’t think I can do it anymore. 800 miles in a day wipes me out now, especially if I’ve been doing 100+. The last drive I was on I was fighting a fierce cross-wind for 8 solid hours.

    Also, plenty of states have 70 and 80 mph. At 80 mph speed limit, you can still hit 89 and not get pulled over.

    • blackjack

      I like to ride 600 miles in a day. Beyond that and it’s a chore. One thing I found out when I rode 850 one day is that once you pass 700, you can just keep going forever after that. That’s the way those people do the Ironbutt runs. It’s not fun, but the big suffering is between 600 and 700.

      • Mojeaux

        I think my longest motorcycle ride was just 100 miles and I was only tooling around a small section of my state. I used to dream of going on a long-haul road trip, but never did. One of my regrets.

      • Cy Esquire

        You’re not dead yet.

      • Mojeaux

        Not a bad point. I think my husband would love to go on a his’n’her trek like that, but I will put my foot down at Honda Goldwings.

      • Ask your doctor if BEAM is right for you

        There are two nice things IME about the Goldwing:

        • First, because of their suspension, tires and seat, when you hit a bump in the road, you don’t feel it for about a week.
        • Second, I knew a guy (older gent, back when I was a wee lad) who actually went over a cliff (100+ ft. drop) on a Goldwing and survived. The paramedics who attended to the accident scene told him that they’d never ever seen anyone else go over that particular cliff (it was an accident magnet for some reason) on any other bike who made it.

        Your mileage, as they say, may vary.

      • Tres Cool

        I used to do work for BP in Whiting, Indiana (outside Chicago) and got the idea of leaving the truck and riding up there. My 1st choice was my GS-R 600.
        I walked like John Wayne for most of that week. After that I took the VTX, but despite weather forecasts to the contrary, 2 trips in a row I got poured on from S. Bend to Indy. I gave up after that.

    • blackjack

      BTW, happy you day.

      • blackjack

        Sorry, you day eve. It’s already started for me here..

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Good luck–? Gunga Din?

      • Mojeaux

        I was scratching my head for a sec.

        Thank you!

        Flowers successfully delivered for my own mother and MIL, so they are happy too.

      • Gender Traitor

        Were you able to get satisfactory corsages?

      • Cy Esquire

        Ugh… look up a “Texas mum.” Some traditions just need to die.

      • Mojeaux

        My dad always got my mom a corsage of yellow carnations, so I have continued to do that. Nowadays she’d rather have the wrist corsage instead of a pinned one.

      • Mojeaux

        It was suboptimal, but it will do. I’m not sure my mom’s lying or not about whether she liked it.

        To supplement, I cut a bunch of my lilacs that still had blossoms and stunk really sweet and took them over to her. She was overjoyed.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Mm, stinky flowers. 😉

      • Mojeaux

        Oh, it was heavenly. The bushes are right by the garage door and they drowned out the smell of gasoline. Glorious blooms (albeit not the usual type you think of).

        I had the foresight to get double-bloomers, so they will come back again later this summer. They’ll be a little more sparse, but still lovely.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Did you find a corsage? I was about to suggest going to your local flower district.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Urf, not refreshed, apologies. ?

      • Mojeaux

        I had been burnt by HyVee 3 times so I called a different local florist, told them what I wanted sight unseen, and paid over the phone. Mom texted me that it was beautiful! so I asked for pics and then I was kind of appalled.

        I don’t know what I’m going to do next year. Stand over the florist as she’s making it, I guess.

    • Plinker762

      First couple hundred is the worst for me and then I get into the long haul zone. Northern I-15 is great because traffic is almost always light. Salt Lake City was the worst part of the trip. Out west, I have found I-80 to be bad because of all the truck traffic, which I assume is between San Fran and Chicago.

      I’ve trained myself to stay at 5 over. Utah and Oregon can be dicks about even that much over. Wa is good for 7 over usually. Idaho has 70 mph limits on two lane roads.

      I left at 5am and got to the shop at 9pm so I was running in mostly daylight which makes it a lot easier. I usually stop after dusk because of the wildlife starts moving then.

      • Mojeaux

        I have found I-80 to be bad because of all the truck traffic

        It’s been a parking lot since the early 00s. I can’t make any good time on I-80 anymore.

      • Plinker762

        In Wyoming it keeps moving (except when a truck tips over across both lanes) but the right lane is full of trucks which keep passing each other at about 1/4 MPH so you keep yo-yoing for 71 to 85 MPH

  15. westernsloper

    Tacos were not something I was feeling on the 5th so I instead ate some Thai Noodles.

    Both a fine choice. I ate tacos yesterday. I may have found the best al pastor in my neck of the woods. Modelo or GTFO.

  16. Not Adahn

    For revolver guys who have extra piles of cash, Beretta is importing some hyper-durable froggy wheel guns.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3KmMUpJP9Q

    Really gorgeous bluing, I must admit.

    • mexican sharpshooter

      The Manurhin? I was gushing over the glossy blue finish yesterday.

      • Not Adahn

        Yup. If I had an extra 3Gs lying around I’d be shooting production at SCSA tomorrow instead of rimfire.

        Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have that, but I’m in a pretty good place right now where I’m more interested in getting better with what I have rather than acquiring new hardware.

    • l0b0t

      Those are pretty.

    • blackjack

      We’re not allowed to until the S/C overturns our stupid roster law.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      It’s a beaut but holy schmoligans the price.

  17. dbleagle

    Off for a day of racing. My between race beer will be Kona Big Wave. Post race I will probably have a medical drink designed to keep away scurvy and malaria.

    • Ask your doctor if BEAM is right for you

      Medical drinks are the best.

  18. Hyperion

    Well, OK then

    Whenever you’re being touted as a ‘patriot’ by idiot Marxist trash, that tells me all I want to know about you.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      “Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney and George W. Bush are true patriots”

      LOL go fuck yourself. No reason to even argue that really…

      • prolefeed

        Ironically, the ad that pops up inside the article is a suit standing in front of a giant screen saying “Reality check”.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Whaa?

    • Not Adahn

      The world is a less wonderful place.

      • Ask your doctor if BEAM is right for you

        The years, and hard livin’, were not kind to her.

    • Mojeaux

      I wanted to be her so badly.

      RIP

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Well damn, RIP.

    • kinnath

      I have no idea who this is.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        Formerly fine ass broad who appeared in a lot of ‘80s music vids and imagination material for you know what for millions of pimply faced Gen Xers.

      • kinnath

        I have never seen that video before.

      • Not Adahn

        Fascinating. The video with Kitaen fooled youtube into recommending me this.

    • limey

      That is the most normal-looking photo of David Coverdale I have ever seen.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Tom Hanks’s bride in Bachelor Party.

  19. Ownbestenemy

    I put lime in my ginger beer and vodka. Now off to redo the shelving in the trailer for the new AC.

    • slumbrew

      Moscow Mules kick ass.

      • Ownbestenemy

        My mom gave us some quality handcrafted copper mugs. It makes all the diference

  20. kinnath

    Beer with Lime

    One that I really like.

    • Cy Esquire

      OOOO! Good choice.

      • kinnath

        One of the best beers I have ever had.

        I had it on tap at Cascade. The server said they couldn’t package if for retail sale. So it is weird to see the link showing cans.

  21. The Late P Brooks

    0%? So its an aluminum block?

    A trash bag full of beer cans.

    • DEG

      Huh. I have some in my basement.

    • Not Adahn

      For an AK Receiver, sure.

      • Plinker762

        0% for an AK is a steel spade

  22. The Late P Brooks

    “Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney and George W. Bush are true patriots”

    Stop it. You’re killing me.

    • hayeksplosives

      They’re Patriots because they are helping the leftists usher in the new Utopia by obediently placing the nooses around their own necks for the convenience of the new would-be overlords.

  23. hayeksplosives

    I found a local bar here that reliably has Fransiskaner beer on tap.

    Too bad I gave up beer because that is my absolute favorite one.

    • DEG

      Franziskaner is good.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Life isn’t always what one would like, as Princess Ann would say. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046250

      Glad to see you, and that you’re not too busy to post.

      /resumes stoicizing

  24. The Late P Brooks

    They’re Patriots because they are helping the leftists usher in the new Utopia by obediently placing the nooses around their own necks for the convenience of the new would-be overlords.

    “How may I better serve thee, Master?” is the new QUESTION AUTHORITY.

    • Cy Esquire

      Just ask all of those ‘punk’ and ‘skater’ bands that can’t get on their knees fast enough for the democrats. Apparently, when they were saying ‘fuck the man!’ it was in the literal sense.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yeah only a couple are still raging against the machine. Its sad to watch a counter-culture movement gobble the very dicks they supposedly hated.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        All except for Johnny Rotten and if Joey Ramone was still around I doubt he’d be toeing the line either. Most of those guys have shown their rebellion to be a fascade though and they were as much rebels as Motley Cru were devil worshippers.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Waiting for Pennywise to come out for a song that says “Love the Authority”

      • mrfamous

        There’s a few that bucked that trend: Jello Biafra, Fear, The Sex Pistols to an extent. Then there’s the Angry Samoans who went out of their way to try and get as many people upset with them as possible (and succeeded).

        Anyway, the early Dead Kennedys basically went after the tendency towards lefty self-righteousness in 80% of their songs.

  25. Francisco d'Anconia

    You put a lime in Mexican beer for the same reason you put Heinz 57 on steaks and ketchup on eggs…

    It makes it taste better.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Flavor enhancement. Its why salt is good cause it makes all the other flavors come out like Jenner

    • slumbrew

      “Heinz 57 on steaks and ketchup on eggs”

      You are dead to me.

      • mexican sharpshooter

        FD’A has been known to put Miracle Whip on white rice to jazz it up.

      • Francisco d'Anconia

        Oh, I’d put it on brown rice too. Even Spanish rice.

        Food is simply something that sauce goes on.

  26. Annoyed Nomad

    I know I’m late to this thread, but I’ve actually had this beer. We tried a few of the Firestone Walker beers on our trip to CA last year. My favorite was the Nitro Merlin milk stout.

  27. limey

    I have been known to enjoy lime as a beverage ingredient.

  28. prolefeed

    I’d always imagined the lime was to prevent scurvy among alcoholics. Kind of like the onions and pickles they serve with smoked brisket, or salsa with Mexican food, a way to get some form of vegetables to those with terrible eating habits.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Interwebs says its to shoo flies away, mask skunky beer or ‘clean’ the rim of a bottle or glass.

  29. LCDR_Fish

    Well, that was interesting. My dad asked for a trip to an escape room for his birthday. He turned 72 on 1 May. So my folks and I went and did a “Lunar Lockdown” here in Durham this afternoon – since I was coming down for Mothers Day weekend.

    First time for any of us trying an escape room. We were a little slow getting started and we did need to get our clues to get started – ran out of time in the end, but definitely got the noggin joggin’. In the future, I’d have a better idea of what to look for at the beginning and how to organize for some of the different puzzle types. As far as I can tell though, all of us had fun, so it worked out pretty well.

    • hayeksplosives

      I did not know this was a thing. I will have to look into it.

      I need some hobbies to share with the husband unit. I have hobbies of my own but now that his music playing is impaired he lives in Morosetown, county seat of Woe-is-Me.

      (I will keep encouraging him on the music. But I think he’s going to need pro treatment of depression.)

      So what can 2 middle aged (and up) people do for fun in SoCal? We will be putting a pool up soon, so that’s nice.

      I’m thinking driving tours of beautiful natural parks, mountains, etc. But he’s a terrible backseat driver so that might stress us both out .

      Will keep thinking…

      • Ask your doctor if BEAM is right for you

        If he’s convinced that his health will interfere with his playing, show him this video:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMjmjXHJoPg

        Steve Vai, a rock guitar god IMNSHO, had to have corrective surgery on both his left thumb (trigger finger was the issue) plus his right shoulder girdle. Most guitarists might have just given up, but instead, the above video is an amazing piece of virtuoso one-handed playing whilst he was recuperating. It’s quite the performance, and really, really cool.

      • hayeksplosives

        Thanks; I will share that !

  30. Fourscore

    My friends showed up with the bees around noon and installed them in their respective new homes. With any luck they will get busy in a couple days and start doing whatever their assigned chores are.

    Not a lot of work until the day of reckoning in Sep. We’ll inspect them in 3 weeks or so, I say WE but actually mean my partner will do most of the work to start with but at least I can observe, nod my head and give encouragement. It was a concern this year but that’s what friends are for and a reason I came back here to retire.

  31. Ownbestenemy

    Shamelessly pulling my hapiness from earlier when I posted to deadthread…

    Enjoyed a night at local dive and while we had to engage in theater to get in, once seated at the bar no one cared. Which they were not allowing us cause we arent gamblers in the past (there choice not mandate). Our favorite bartender was so glad we were there we got our food and drinks comped.

    Its a beautiful Sat. 2nd generation garden is growing strong with new lettuce sprouting, beets, carrots, onion, beans and tomatoes.

    The herb garden portion is chives, coriander, thyme, basil, and oregano.

    It is pleasing to watch life grow

    • Fourscore

      You know how to hut a guy, don’t you?

      • Fourscore

        hurt

  32. The Late P Brooks

    Shamelessly pulling my hapiness

    You’ll go blind, doing that.

    • hayeksplosives

      Hey-oh!

    • Tres Cool

      I promised Id stop when I needed glasses.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Happiness is still happiness so ill keep tugging along

  33. The Hyperbole

    Some of you were mocking the “journalist” that is shocked just shocked! that the Trump administration lied to, and was mean to, and spied on reporters. Turns out she’s the woman who years ago was reporting on some flooding, paddling around in a canoe when some guys pass between her and the camera and the waters barely covering their feet.

    • Ownbestenemy

      So the mocking was just then

      • The Hyperbole

        It was just even if she wasn’t that lady.

    • hayeksplosives

      One of my favorite moments in media self image was when they were pestering MN Governor Jesse “The Body” Ventura for not being bleeding heart liberal enough for them. So he referred to them as “media jackals” and left the press conference.

      The next time he held a press conference, all the media credential badges had been replaced with ones labeled “Media Jackal.” I thought it was hilarious, as did most Minnesotans, red and blue.

      But the media were stunned and clutched pearls and then made the fact that they were called Jackals the top story on all the news stations. These idiots really believed their own hype about being brave warriors for the Truth.

      The regular viewers at home thought that was EXTRA hilarious, and when the reporters realized that the entire state sided with Jesse on that point, they quietly dropped coverage of the story.

      Idiots. Journalists are held in the same esteem as lawyers and politicians in this country.

      • Q Continuum

        “Journalists are held in the same esteem as lawyers and politicians in this country”

        At this point, I might actually hold them in lower esteem because of their insufferable self-importance and victimhood complex. Oddly, as politicians become more shameless in their corruption I respect them a bit more for being honest and there are a handful of lawyers that can laugh at themselves.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    Heinz 57 is good on french fries.

    • hayeksplosives

      I confess to using A1 as part of a marinade when I have a non-ideal cut of beef to work with.

      In bowl or baggie, mix A1 steak sauce, curry powder (Swad brand is my fave), thyme (fresh or dry), spoon of Dijon mustard and mix. Add in cuts of steak and coat thoroughly. Let marinate an hour. Option: add thyme to marinade to help break down meat.

    • Francisco d'Anconia

      It’s also awesome mixed in Kraft Deluxe Mac and Cheese.

  35. hayeksplosives

    Johnny Rotten:

    “Where is this ‘moral majority’ nonsense coming from when they’re basically the ones doing all the wrong for being so bloody judgmental and vicious against anybody that doesn’t go with the current popular opinion?” he asked. “It’s just horribly, horribly tempestuous spoilt children coming out of colleges and universities with s- -t for brains.”

    But he’s 65 so what does he know about liberty?

    “These people aren’t really genuinely disenfranchised at all,” said Lydon, 65. “They just view themselves as special. It’s selfishness and in that respect, it’s divisive and can only lead to trouble,” he said.

    “I can’t believe that TV stations give some of these lunatics the space,” the “Anarchy In The UK” singer continued.

    What does it say about society when retired punk rockers dispense far more wisdom than anything coming out of the Executive or Legislative branches of government?

    • Ownbestenemy

      Its as if those stinky misfits of society understood that government was the largest oppressors through all time and they educated themselves not through school but through living.

      What do they know. SLC Punk was a good movie

      • hayeksplosives

        understood that government was the largest oppressors through all time

        So true. And this is why the Red/Blue team situation is so doomed to reduce our freedoms.

        When team Blue is in, they get around the Loyal Opposition by packing the court, issuing executive orders, deem-and-pass affordable care act, etc.

        Then when team Red gets in, do they roll back those powers that they’d been squealing about under Blue? Nope, they just push their own pet issues using executive orders, judicial appointments etc.

        It’s hard to blame team Red; without them we’d probably be full socialist now.

        But how do we get back to smaller government? I’m meeting more of my old friends who used to be “conservative” (Defense of Marriage act, ban abortions, war on drugs, war on terror) who are now sounding much more libertarian. “AInjust want to be left alone and to leave you alone.”

        Could we be on the brink of a new opposition party against the Left? And can that new party be more of a Libertarian one than we have seen since the founding?

      • DEG

        But how do we get back to smaller government? I’m meeting more of my old friends who used to be “conservative” (Defense of Marriage act, ban abortions, war on drugs, war on terror) who are now sounding much more libertarian. “AInjust want to be left alone and to leave you alone.”

        The NH Firearms Coalition has taken this track for several years:

        “If you don’t like your politicians, replace them.”

        They have mobilized enough voters to replace anti-gun Republican state senators with pro-gun Republican state senators. If I could remember the names, I’d name the senators. It’s not always easy to do and sometimes you’ll lose. But sometimes you win.

      • Winston

        Have they managed to replace any anti-gun democrats with pro-gun Democrats?

  36. DEG

    I’m trying to wrap my head around the interest in this Lee-Enfield.

    The pictures are crap. In one or two, I can make out some markings on the buttstock that are typical of Aussie Lee-Enfields, but without the pictures of the butt-stock socket markings and/or serial number, I can’t tell if it actually is Aussie manufacture. It looks like no shortened SMLE I’ve heard of, especially not the Aussie No. 6 rifles. I suspect someone cut a SMLE down and passed it off as a carbine to folks not knowledgeable about Lee-Enfields.

    • Sean

      Crummy pics.

  37. OBJ FRANKELSON

    My SIL introduced the wife and me to “Happy Beers.” You drink a Mexican beer down to the bottom of the neck and you top it off with white tequila. The wife puts a lime in it, I can take or leave putting fruit in beer.

    • westernsloper

      Yikes!

      • OBJ FRANKELSON

        Yep. But is pretty tasty, IMO.

    • DEG

      There was a school shooting when I was younger near where I grew up. I don’t remember if it was at a junior or senior high.

      The shooter brought a pistol in, shoot someone that was bullying him, then went outside and sat under a tree until the cops showed.

  38. hayeksplosives

    Wow.

    I just feel asleep in the middle of the afternoon. Am I old? I think that makes me old.

    I like it. Moar napping!!

    • Sean

      I think you’ve earned a little extra rest time.

    • rhywun

      I took three hard naps this afternoon. I needed them.

  39. Mojeaux

    Well, I just beat that cookbook EPUB file into submission. Here’s hoping the client still likes me.