Wednesday Afternoon SugarLinks – Karen Prime

by | Sep 8, 2021 | Daily Links | 279 comments

Hatchet Nation

By playing up her eccentricities, mocking her femininity, fundamentally misconstruing her religious beliefs, and laughing off her convictions, historians have made Carrie Nation a paper cutout of the temperance movement: easily crumpled up and thrown away, without ever needing to consider that her grievances actually had merit. Saloon-keepers were acting illegally. Politicians and law enforcement were corrupted by taking bribes to look the other way. Women were marginalized, disenfranchised, and powerless to stop it. A predatory liquor traffic was making money hand over fist by getting men addicted, and then bleeding them and their families to death.

Carrie had experienced all of this firsthand. Her first husband, Dr. Charles Gloyd, was a handsome and decorated Union Army physician. She idolized him. He adored her. They wrote romantic—even salacious—love letters to each other. But it wasn’t to last. Even as a newlywed, Gloyd locked himself up at the tavern or Masonic lodge, drinking till dawn, leaving his forlorn bride “hungry for his caresses and love.” In 1869, after just 16 months of marriage, her beloved died from alcoholism, leaving Carrie with only her sorrow, a new baby, and a disapproving mother-in-law to care for. A widow at the age of 22, she was penniless, hopeless, and powerless before the law. But from those depths of poverty and despair, she became self-reliant, strong, and willing to fight against unjust subjugation on behalf of the subjugated.

So when it came to her motivations, Carrie Nation always declared them clearly and consistently: “You wouldn’t give me the vote, so I had to use a rock!”

What’s strange is that we still refuse to hear her, believe her, or take her seriously.

An attempt to rehabilitate the image of Carrie Nation, Karen Prime, funkiller, joysmasher, the “moral” core of Prohibition is pretty sickening, even for Slate.

Reminds of Oscar Wilde on foxhunting: “The unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible.”


Rare Tasmanian Tiger Footage Found in Restored Film

An Australian film archive released colorized footage of the last known Tasmanian tiger, or thylacine, this week ― 85 years after the species went extinct.

The short video was filmed at a zoo in Hobart, Tasmania in 1933 and shows the thylacine, named Benjamin, padding around a small enclosure. Benjamin died in captivity three years later and the Tasmanian tiger was declared extinct.

Although the footage was originally shot on 35mm film, the National Film and Sound Archive of Australia hired an expert colorization team led by Samuel François-Steininger to spruce up the archival footage.

The colorization was a challenge as just 3 minutes of total footage existed of the thylacine, all in black-and-white. François-Steininger relied on drawings, paintings and preserved thylacine pelts in museums to accurately color the footage.

I’m not usually a fan of colorized film footage, but it is pretty neat in this case.


NSW Health limits residents of locked-down tower block to six beers per day

NSW Health has imposed rules limiting people in “NSW Health controlled buildings” to a certain amount of alcohol each day in a bid to “ensure the safety of health staff and residents”.

Mission Australia’s Common Ground building in Camperdown is the latest building where occupants are subjected to the harsh rules.

Residents of the social housing estate have complained that care packages sent by friends and relatives have been searched before they are delivered.

“They are searching all bags and things coming into the building … They confiscated a series of gifts. So things like bottles of spirits, we weren’t allowed to have those and we still (aren’t),” Common Ground resident Robin Elhaj said.

Residents are allowed to receive a ration of one of the following: six beers or pre-mixed drinks, one bottle of wine, or one 375ml bottle of spirits.

Excess alcohol is being confiscated until lockdown rules are lifted.

Residents can consult with a clinician if they think they need more than the allowed limit.

Why isn’t shit on fire right now? Jeebus, Australia, grow a pair.


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279 Comments

  1. Tres Cool

    whaddup doh’

    • Tres Cool

      “Interior was filthy but it has wiped up okay, the bumper splitter is droopy on one side, the plastic rear bumper is crudely cut and not fully covered by the gasket, there is paint under spray on a couple of the doors.”

      Sounds like a woman I met off CL personals once.

      • waffles

        Pretty good for CL personals, bet

  2. Rebel Scum

    You wouldn’t give me the vote, so I had to use a rock!

    Ok, Karen.

  3. Rebel Scum

    I’m not usually a fan of colorized film footage

    That’s “film of color” to you, bigot.

    • SugarFree

      Ha! It’s colourtualry appropriated monochrome film!

      • Tres Cool

        Ive instructed Tres Ver 2.0 to answer any accusation of “cultural appropriation” with, “No, its cultural appreciation.”

  4. Rebel Scum

    Why isn’t shit on fire right now?

    Because Aussie beer is garbage that does not foster protest.

    • EvilSheldon

      Australia’s recently adopted national motto – “Harder, Daddy!”

    • Animal

      …foster protest.

      I see what you did there.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Fun fact? Fosters is brewed in Texas.

      • The coolest vaccine-free BEAM in the world™

        “It’s the gahlden throat charmah.”

      • Tres Cool

        Fun fact- if you get a Foster’s lager in SW Ohio, it was likely brewed (under license) to Miller at their Trenton, OH brewery. They “contract brew” something like 20+ labels there.

      • The coolest vaccine-free BEAM in the world™

        It’s quite possibly all from the same vat, too.

      • Certified Public Asshat

        Are you trying to fun fact fact check me?

    • db

      Now, that one deserves points for its aboriginality.

      • Tres Cool

        And Dingo was his name-o

      • J. Frank Parnell

        Definitely some high koala-ty work.

      • Ghostpatzer

        I am roo-ing the day I saw this thread.

      • Bobarian LMD

        I was gonna laugh at this but a drop-bear ate me.

    • DEG

      I’ve great beer in Australia.

      None of it was called Fosters.

      My favorite Aussie brewer.

      • Grummun

        Ditto. Before Andersen’s closed up, they used to carry Cooper’s. I recently asked a local place to order some in, he said his distributors can’t get it.

        I’d love to find a recipe that reliably produced something like Cooper’s stout.

  5. Tonio

    “Saloon-keepers were acting illegally.”

    Now do Texas abortion law. Statists gonna state.

    • Tres Cool

      Good Lord…no wonder dude drank himself blind.

      • EvilSheldon

        It was probably less her looks, and more the severe paranoid schizophrenia that manifested in her early teens.

    • Tres Cool

      HOLD UP!

      “Carrie was a big girl. In her youth she was large and bony, but widened with age. She stood over 6’2” and eventually tipped the scales at over 250 pounds, towering over her family and neighbors.”

      I may have a soft-on.

      • creech

        Light the John signal.

    • Spudalicious

      Dayum.

      “ Carrie was a big girl. In her youth she was large and bony, but widened with age. She stood over 6’2” and eventually tipped the scales at over 250 pounds, towering over her family and neighbors. Her face, hard a-straddle a pumpkin-like head, had a pushed-up look, as if she had received an uppercut with a snow shovel. Even with a little age-weight she looked, not just obese, but rather like a great flesh cube hovering free in space like a hellish parade float. She wasn’t ugly, either, not in any reasonable sense of the word. Instead, she radiated that sort of high-impact corpulence common to talk radio hosts and Babar cartoons. Add to this her predilection for loud public conversations with Jesus, whom she called “Big Brother,” and she is a picture perfect example of the sort of repellently hostile and irrational being that has no other option available in life but to engage in grassroots politics. Carrie was about as lovable as a flak jacket filled with raw sausage.”

  6. Not Adahn

    Karen Prime

    Optimus’ wife, who transformed into a klaxon?

    • Tres Cool

      Alt. Klaxon

  7. Not Adahn

    Residents can consult with a clinician if they think they need more than the allowed limit.

    ?

    “Medicinal whiskey” is still a thing in Dingoville?

    • rhywun

      Probably an illusory loophole that’s impossible to benefit from – like religious exemptions from medical injections.

      • Bobarian LMD

        My guess? If you’re a big enough boozer that you get the DTs if you ever sober-up… You need enough to maintain.

    • Tonio

      “Consult with” and get referred for mandatory alcoholism treatment.

    • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

      I read about that in The Great Game. I also read Winston Churchill’s account of fighting in the region. Both books mention how quickly alliances change in Afghanistan. That I knew about that after reading two books yet it escaped our so called intelligence officials blows me away.

      • Raven Nation

        The Great Game is a fantastic read.

      • Fatty Bolger

        They knew the army could only hold off the Taliban for a few months. Which meant it was going to fold immediately. Because why would they fight a desperate battle they knew they were going to lose? To help us? What a joke. It was obvious what was going to happen.

      • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

        I think they believed their own BS that the Afghan army could hold out for at least 90 days. That’s why their planning was so poor. They assumed they had time.

      • Ownbestenemy

        That intelligence crumbled back in April when Biden moved the date from May 1st to Sept 11th and the Taliban said ‘fuck it’ and then upped its attacks against government forces. They knew it wouldn’t hold. Way before they pretended it to be a surprise that they moved so quickly.

  8. Stinky Wizzleteats

    That Carrie Nation looked like such a carefree and funloving gal. Who would of thought she’d end up being a moral scold?

  9. JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

    What rolls down stairs
    Alone or in pairs,
    and rolls over your neighbor’s dog?
    What’s great for a rebate
    and makes nerds masturbate?
    it’s Tesla, Tesla Tesla!
    it’s Tesla, Tesla!
    It’s big, it’s heavy, it’s wood.
    it’s Tesla, Tesla!
    it’s better than bad, it’s good!

    • Tundra

      *applause*

      Those tweets just made me sad.

  10. Rat on a train

    NSW Health limits residents of locked-down tower block to six beers per day
    It’s like my days in barracks. We were only allowed to store six beers per person of drinking age in the room. The guys across the hall used the store loophole to bring in more but drink it down to six each.

  11. Not Adahn

    Carrie was a big girl. In her youth she was large and bony, but widened with age. She stood over 6’2” and eventually tipped the scales at over 250 pounds, towering over her family and neighbors. Her face, hard a-straddle a pumpkin-like head, had a pushed-up look, as if she had received an uppercut with a snow shovel. Even with a little age-weight she looked, not just obese, but rather like a great flesh cube hovering free in space like a hellish parade float. She wasn’t ugly, either, not in any reasonable sense of the word. Instead, she radiated that sort of high-impact corpulence common to talk radio hosts and Babar cartoons. Add to this her predilection for loud public conversations with Jesus, whom she called “Big Brother,” and she is a picture perfect example of the sort of repellently hostile and irrational being that has no other option available in life but to engage in grassroots politics. Carrie was about as lovable as a flak jacket filled with raw sausage.

    Expressive, but lacking SF’s flair.

    • Bobarian LMD

      SF has lots of flair

  12. Tonio

    “Residents of the social housing estate…

    Sounds like what we call “public housing” here. Always a euphemism for free shit.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Or maybe that is their kinder, gentler term for quarentine camps.

    • Rat on a train

      It’s better than council estate.

  13. Chafed

    If Australia’s poors aren’t willing to riot over booze being cut off then they are lost. There really isn’t any indignation that will get them off their asses.

  14. Tres Cool

    If Suthens not passed out and being devoured by palmetto bugs at this hour, I passed his toxic flour recipe along to Jugsy. Since she manages HUD/Section 8 properties, tenants with roaches are a common thing.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Pobrecita.

  15. Rebel Scum

    The cultural revolution continues apace.

    The Naming Commission is seeking public input on the renaming of several military bases in Virginia named after confederate officers, including several in Virginia.

    The commission was formed following the passage of the National Defense Authorization Act earlier this year, which governs the budget of the U.S. military. They’re charged with “[renaming or removing] ‘names, symbols, displays, monuments and paraphernalia’ that commemorate the Confederacy.”

    They have opened that process up to the public, inviting Americans to submit recommendations and comments to their website.

    “As we work with the local communities, we welcome input from the American public,” said retired Navy Adm. Michelle Howard, the commission’s chair.

    Four of the 10 facilities up for renaming are located in Virginia. They include Fort Lee, Fort Belvoir, Fort Pickett and Fort A.P. Hill.

    Having military bases named for significant/historical American military leaders is obviously ridiculous. I guess I’ll suggest “Fort McFortface”.

    • Tonio

      Dammit, you read my mind. I was going to go with Fort E. McFortface.

    • Ownbestenemy

      We should just identify them as the sectors they reside in according to their location to FEMA sector maps.

    • Rat on a train

      Just go with numbers. Fort 17 or such.

    • The Hyperbole

      How about we get rid of the standing army, sell off the bases and let the new owners call them whatever they want?

      • db

        Now that right there is an idea.

      • l0b0t

        Hell yeah!! Abolish Army, beef up the Navy and USMC (to keep the sea lanes free from pirates), and have USAF take over NASA’s role as NASA doesn’t seem eager to do it.

      • Ownbestenemy

        ^^^ and roll the CG back into the Navy since they are engaging in those duties anyway.

      • l0b0t

        Didn’t the CG begin as tax collectors for the Treasury Dept. – the Revenue Cutter Service? Abolish them as well and bring back the US Lifesaving Service restricted to maritime rescue in US waters.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Learn something new everyday..

        The Coast Guard, which had operated as a service under the Navy since November 1, 1941, was returned to the Treasury Department, pursuant to Executive Order 9666, dated December 28, 1945.

      • Rat on a train

        Coast Guard units have been activated and attached to the Navy during conflicts. Check out their service during Vietnam.

        Fun fact: When part of DHS the Coast Guard is last of six armed forces in precedence, but moves to 4th when operating as part of the Navy.

      • westernsloper

        ………..bring back the US Lifesaving Service restricted to maritime rescue in US waters.

        Preach it!

    • mindyourbusiness

      Maybe we could call this move part of the Great Cultural Revolution. Oh, wait…

      • db

        It’s the Western Front of that conflict.

  16. JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

    The local news was trying to scare us by saying that about 20% of Covid cases are children. No mention of hospitalizations or deaths or the fact that 25% of the population is under 18, which means children are “underrepresented”.

    • Sean

      Or that after keeping the little germ bags under lock & key for the past year+, you should expect some colds to go around.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Or that in general, kids are disgusting.

      • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

        Mine are ok most of the time. Everyone else’s are terrible.

    • LJW

      Our local news is picking out schools with no mask policy and high case numbers… while ignoring the schools with mask mandates and high case numbers. Regardless of the mask policy it doesn’t prove anything. Hooray “science”!

    • The Other Kevin

      Today the Mrs and I tested positive. We didn’t take our 16yo, but I mentioned to the doctor I remember her having congestion and watery eyes for all of 24 hours last week. Could that have been Covid? According to the doctor, sure. Kids are amazingly resilient against it.

      • Tonio

        Hope you two are okay.

      • Count Potato

        +1

  17. DEG

    An attempt to rehabilitate the image of Carrie Nation, Karen Prime, funkiller, joysmasher, the “moral” core of Prohibition is pretty sickening, even for Slate.

    Wow. Who’s next? Hitler?

    The Tasmanian Tiger footage is neat.

    NSW Health has imposed rules limiting people in “NSW Health controlled buildings” to a certain amount of alcohol each day in a bid to “ensure the safety of health staff and residents”.

    Bastards.

    Why isn’t shit on fire right now? Jeebus, Australia, grow a pair.

    Let me guess, one of the commentariat here will blame it on a lack of guns despite more guns being in private hands in Australia now than before their big gun control laws passed? OK, there are fewer gun owners per capita, but even so, others have done more with less. See the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. “Grow a pair” is exactly what they need to do.

    Sounds bad, but for Tesla, it’s good.

    Peak Stupid will never arrive.

    • The coolest vaccine-free BEAM in the world™

      I keep hearing this about countries where guns are all-but-completely-banned-but-they-still-have-lots-why-aren’t-there-uprisings, but you know what you call a gun for which you can no longer get safe, reliable ammunition?

      “Damn near useless.”

      • DEG

        That’s why you stockpile. Or… see the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.

        In Australia, if you’re licensed for a firearm, you can get ammunition for it. Someone here a while back when I posted a link to a “there are more guns in private hands in now than before” story speculated the reason for the uptick in registrations is to get ammunition.

    • Tonio

      Picture caption from the article: “Police help volunteers and support workers carry donated games and food.”

      Start taking hostages.

    • grrizzly

      We need more Bundy standoffs.

  18. Rat on a train

    Got word from corporate. It seems the top corporate overlords are mandating the vid prick for all employees. Our subsidiary sent a message saying that only applies to people who work for the parent company. Our subsidiary only encourages vaccination.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Feds are still in ‘encourage’ mode but I declined to answer their personal medical question. So swabbing the nose it is for me whenever I have to go into the office.

      • Sean

        Make it interesting for them: snort some coke first.

      • Ownbestenemy

        In their current stance, that probably would be okay.

  19. rhywun

    Carrie was not some Bible-thumping “holy crone on a broomstick” seeking to legislate morality or “discipline” individual behavior. If anything, she was a populist progressive.

    No shit?

    • db

      uh, what’s the difference?

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        First generation progressives (social gospellers) thumped Bibles.
        Second generation progressives thumped alcohol bottles on drunks’ heads.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      It says quite a bit that they’re trying to rehabilitate her image.

    • Gadfly

      Por que no los dos?

    • The Gunslinger

      Nope. Petite frame.

  20. grrizzly

    Civil disobedience in America these days.

    • Ownbestenemy

      I took a deep breath and held it expecting something else. What are the cops and/or administrators do? Turn the kids away?

      • DEG

        On a PA facebook group dedicated to defying the Governor, someone posted an open letter from the Lebanon County DA.

        In it, he said would not authorize any arrest or prosecution of people defying the school mask order.

        News article on it.

        Kind of a big deal since in PA everything the police do, even the state police, has to go through the county DA.

        Judging by posts on that group, lots of folks are pushing back on the school mask order.

    • Chafed

      The superspreader event that wasn’t.

  21. Sean

    All eyes on Australia:

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/09/australias-victoria-premier-dan-andrews-were-going-to-lock-out-the-unvaccinated-from-the-economy/

    Australia has begun construction on their second COVID-19 quarantine camp, deceptively called “Melbourne’s Centre for National Resilience.” It’s down the road from Melbourne Airport, known locally as Tullamarine Airport, which serves the city of Melbourne, and is Australia’s second-busiest airport.

    • Ownbestenemy

      Good googly-moogly. You would think it was 28-days later LARPing 20 months later into the zombie apocalypse down there.

    • rhywun

      Deblasio and whoever the fuck is running LA are creaming in their dad jeans at the thought of having this much power.

    • Chipwooder

      Miniluv workin’ hard in Australia

  22. Rebel Scum

    Unless I found the wrong lyrics I don’t know what these people are talking about.

    The Texas chapter of the NAACP, along with the civil rights organization’s University of Texas at Austin chapter and a group of anonymous students, has filed a complaint with the U.S. Department of Education’s Office of Civil Rights alleging UT-Austin is creating a “hostile environment” for Black students by continuing to play the “The Eyes of Texas” alma mater song at university events.

    The complaint, filed Friday morning, alleges that Black students have been denied full benefits of Longhorn student life because the song is an official part of the university, “despite its racially offensive origin, context and meaning.” The song premiered at a minstrel show in the early 1900s where students likely wore blackface. Despite pushback, university officials have said they are going to keep the song as their alma mater, concluding in a report issued earlier this year that the song “had no racist intent.”

    • Animal

      Despite pushback, university officials have said they are going to keep the song as their alma mater, concluding in a report issued earlier this year that the song “had no racist intent.”

      That’s a polite way to tell the whiners where to head in.

  23. rhywun

    Jeebus, Australia, grow a pair.

    Sounds like they’re testing out new policies on easily-controlled government dependents before they roll them out nationwide.

    See for example NYC banning smoking in the projects.

    • Count Potato

      “See for example NYC banning smoking in the projects.”

      WTF??

      • rhywun

        Yep. Several years ago. Apparently HUD requires it, so I guess it’s nationwide (I did not know this before).

      • Count Potato

        OFFS!!

      • Animal

        Why not just ban the projects?

      • rhywun

        Why do you hate easily-controlled government dependents?

  24. Dr. Fronkensteen

    Someone made a good point about the college football games. Is it better for the students who attended to watch the game in small dorms or apartments with others … or a massive open-aired bowl?

    • rhywun

      “Experts” have been furiously ignoring the fact that most people catch it from their family for more than a year – why stop now.

  25. Raven Nation

    “Karen Prime”

    Brilliant.

    • wdalasio

      Well, to paraphrase an American politician, lost wars have consequences.

    • Rebel Scum

      State Dept. voices concerns over all-male Taliban government

      ///NotTheBee

      It is almost like the world is not a gender studies course.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Whycome the Taliban no care about my tweets?

    • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

      Time to deploy the harshly worded demarches. The Taliban will be devastated.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        And if the sternly written letter doesn’t work. We’ll bring out… the comfy chair.

      • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

        They won’t be expecting that.

      • The coolest vaccine-free BEAM in the world™

        Don’t skip over the soft cushion first. We can’t go totally inhumane all at once.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      It’s times like this I feel sorry for the writers of the Babylon Bee. Could satire be more less silly than this? Time to start prepping I guess.

      • Tonio

        Glibs writers, too.

  26. wdalasio

    pretty sickening, even for Slate

    Sickening, yes. But, not really surprising. Slate’s audience is the intellectual heirs to Ms. Nation. A mentally-unstable scold with delusions of religious grandeur seeking to use her self-imposed victimization to impose their moral judgements on the rest of mankind through violence, intimidation and force of law? Isn’t that pretty much a case study of the social justice warrior? About the only distinctions I can see are the technologies and the particular choice of faith.

  27. limey

    Thylacine not even closely related to dogs but is de facto dog, to me, in the clip. I wonder what they sounded like.

    • Tonio

      Convergent evolution. Certain forms work for certain ecological niches. Look at ichthyosaurs vs cetaceans.

      • limey

        Yes thank you for the […], EXPLAINED, Vox.com

      • limey

        I’m a jerk. Sorry.

        I mean yes, that is the case. Swifts and swallows are a good comparison, too.

      • Ted S.

        Are those European or African swallows?

  28. Sensei

    “Stockholm Syndrome:” aka Tesla quality control.

    Depends on the day the car was made. Some are quite good and some are awful. I’d say average quality is on par with Chrysler’s made in the early part of the 2000s. However, paint quality is similar to GM of the 80s.

    Forums are full of folks coming from BMW and VW/Audi and expecting that level of body quality. They are in for a disappointment. On a Model 3 or Y that’s not huge deal for me. But the Model S costs $130k and has the exact same issues as the 3/Y. OTH, a VW GTI has just about the same panel fit and paint finish as an Audi S8.

    My last car was a 2007 Jeep Wrangler JK. The Tesla quality and fit and finish blow it out of the water.

    • Sean

      I love my GTI.

      • Sensei

        I’ve read mixed reviews of the brand new generation.

        For me as I’ve gotten older, I don’t want a road car to beat me to pieces and I think the GTI is a wonderful compromise between fun to drive and comfort.

      • R.J.

        Those are nice. I also agree that Mopar had horrible quality in 2007. My Challenger from 2015 was a different story. Really nice car.

      • Sean

        I had a MK6, it was ok, but I grew bored with it pretty fast and dumped it at the three year mark.

        This MK7.5 still has me loving it at the three year mark. For me, it’s the perfect every day fun car.

  29. Certified Public Asshat

    Report: Solar could power 40% of US electricity by 2035

    The “Solar Futures Study,” prepared by DOE’s National Renewable Energy Laboratory, shows that, by 2035, the United States would need to quadruple its yearly solar capacity additions and provide 1,000 GW of power to a renewable-dominant grid. By 2050, solar energy could provide 1,600 GW on a zero-carbon grid — producing more electricity than consumed in all residential and commercial buildings in the country today, the report said. Decarbonizing the entire energy system could result in as much as 3,000 GW of solar by 2050 due to increased electrification in the transportation, buildings, and industrial sectors, the report said.

    IOW, it cannot.

  30. Tundra

    Here we go.

    I’m calling it. No travel without the shot.

    • Sean

      No air travel? Small chance – teeny tiny small.
      No state to state? Forget about it.
      Australia style? Bring it. i dare them.

      • Tundra

        Disagree. Airlines can be counted on to tow the lion. Gleefully, it appears.

        Nope, this is to cause maximum pain.

      • Ownbestenemy

        For air travel, they don’t even need to pressure the airlines. It becomes a requirement to get through TSA..and done.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Mass civil disobedience

        I’m perfectly willing to help collapse the economy to get of these evil shits.

      • Ownbestenemy

        The last 20 months have proven we as a whole will accept it.

      • DEG

        Airlines will get bailed out.

        Even if they, for instance, tank after the 2022 elections and Congress changes hands. They’ll get their bail-out.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      This is their attempt to draw attention away from their Afghanistan debacle and shore up support among the committed left.

      Fuck them. I’m not doing it. Even if they make it 100% effective, I will never do it under threat. This is the hill.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Yes sir. This is the hill.

        We have a cross-country trip planned in 2 weeks. If they fuck this up for us, I’m gonna be rather pissed.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Yep. Like I said up top, we are still in the ‘encouraged’ phase of getting the vaccine. Already said if he says required for employment, I am done with it. We got emergency funds for a reason.

      • rhywun

        I have come to accept this myself. Go ahead, fire me.

      • Sean

        I’m still hiring. ?

      • rhywun

        Do you need a data integration specialist?

        Will sling other forms of code for food.

      • Sean

        I do not.

        This is more light carpentry type stuff – doors,windows, drywall, etc.

      • Ghostpatzer

        @rhywun Integration specialist? Isn’t that just a cover for toxic Whiteness?

      • The Hyperbole

        light carpentry type stuff – doors,windows, drywall, etc.

        Other than the Drywall, I’m your man, I require a $2500 sign on bonus and a guaranteed 24 hr. work week, at $1000/week.

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        If I get canned, I may take you up on the offer. My only experience is a few Habitat builds, but I am a quick learner. I’ll need a few weeks to adapt back to physical labor, but once I’m broken in I’ll put in as many hours as you need.

      • The Hyperbole

        I’ll put in as many hours as you need.

        Dude, that’s not how it works, the workers have all the leverage right now, don’t give it away. Solidarity!

      • trshmnstr the terrible

        Sorry… umm, uhh… I can only work 30 hours per week, and I need drink and smoke breaks every hour on the hour.

      • The Hyperbole

        That’s the spirit!

      • db

        Fuck You! Pay Me!

      • Sean

        Y’all will fit right in.

      • Tundra

        The more I think about it, I do think the draconian shit tomorrow is precisely because Saturday is a pretty major anniversary. The Taliban is holding a party and a bunch of hostages. Everyone’s coming: Turkey, China, Russia, Iran, Pakistan, and Qatar.

        I’m just not sure that pissing off the majority of the country is gonna help deflect from the fact they left a bunch of people there.

        And why this motherfucker still has a job is amazing.

    • Rebel Scum

      You get the tyranny you accept.

    • rhywun

      Another easily controlled population, just like public housing residents.

      Yes, it’s coming.

      And it won’t be just airplanes – it will be buses and trains too. The current rules apply to all of them equally now; I don’t see why any new rules won’t too.

    • Ghostpatzer

      Public transportation (air, rail, bus) I can see. Autos? That would require a national vaccine passport along with checkpoints. As shitty as things are, I don’t see that happening. My uncle in FL is pushing 90, I might need to go there in the not too distant future. Road Trip is fine with me if it comes to that.

      • rhywun

        As shitty as things are, I don’t see that happening.

        I’m about twelve months past the idea of “I don’t see that happening.”

      • Ownbestenemy

        I know right? That is totally March 2020 thinking.

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      If they do, they better pray that they have complete control over elections because it ain’t going to go over well.

    • Chipwooder

      And this is why I’ve always, going back many years in the Reason comments even, voiced a strong opinion against autonomous vehicles and the “no one will own cars, everyone will use robot car services” proponents. If I don’t control my travels, then someone else will, and we have seen over the past year and a half how eager those in control will be to deny us when we don’t bend to their will.

      • Ownbestenemy

        Time to learn how to ride a horse

      • db

        Say “hi” to DUI laws applying to horsemen.

      • db

        By which, I mean, they already do.

      • db

        Not these.

      • DrOtto

        Not in TX. We had a high profile case several years back where two horsemen were charged with DUI. The court threw it out because horses also have a say in the process and will not generally put themselves in harm’s way.

      • db

        In PA it’s not uncommon for people to be cited for DUI on a horse. Even the Amish have been pinched.

  31. Count Potato

    Has anyone seen Jurassic Park? I say we bring back those tiger dogs, feed them that Slat writer, then let them loose on the rest of Australia.

    • Count Potato

      um, Slate

    • Tonio

      The problem is finding something that would gestate them. You could bring back dire wolves, smilodonts, cave bears (ahem), and mammoths because their direct descendants or close cousins in the same biological family are alive today so you could create hybrid embryos and implant those in living relatives. There are no marsupial carnivores left, nothing in the same family. You need the family (Kingdom Phylum Order Class Genus Family Species) degree of closeness to interbreed. Thus, horses and donkeys (same family) with limited success, but not tigers and wolves (both order carnivora, but different families and subfamilies). Also, sea bugs.

      • Dr. Fronkensteen

        Artificial womb?

      • Animal

        We could always use the Jurassic Park method of cloning extinct species:

        1) Extract DNA fragments
        2) Fill in gaps in DNA by slapdashing random shit in
        3) ???
        4) Dinosaur!

      • Ghostpatzer

        New vaccine technology? Where do I sign up?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      Thank you for that

    • Ghostpatzer

      Thanks. I love Shartner.

  32. Gadfly

    Why isn’t shit on fire right now? Jeebus, Australia, grow a pair.

    I was listening to a podcast the other day and they had a guest on who was an ex-pat Australian talking about the situation in Australia. She said that people need to remember that Australians are not only descendants of prisoners but also their wardens, and that Australia has a long history of authoritarianism and heavy handed policing. In other words, their recent Orwellian policies didn’t spring up out of nowhere but are a natural outgrowth of the nation’s culture. Which makes sense, when you consider that Australia is one of the few nations in the world to actually mandate voting.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Attica, Attica, Attica

    • Spudalicious

      Once a penal colony, always a penal colony.

  33. l0b0t

    Regarding the ACLU in the last thread

    Sigh… one of my triggers. The ACLU began life as the in-house counsel for the CPUSA. Roger Nash Baldwin, co-founder and 1st director of the ACLU, had this to say in 1934 –

    “I believe in non-violent methods of struggle as most effective in the long run for building up successful working class power. Where they cannot be followed or where they are not even permitted by the ruling class, obviously only violent tactics remain. I champion civil liberty as the best of the non-violent means of building the power on which workers’ rule must be based. If I aid the reactionaries to get free speech now and then, if I go outside the class struggle to fight against censorship, it is only because those liberties help to create a more hospitable atmosphere for working class liberties. The class struggle is the central conflict of the world; all others are incidental.

    When that power of the working class is once achieved, as it has been only in the Soviet Union, I am for maintaining it by any means whatever. Dictatorship is the obvious means in a world of enemies, at home and abroad. I dislike it in principle as dangerous to its own objects. But the Soviet Union has already created liberties far greater than exist elsewhere in the world. […] While I have some reservations about party policy in relation to internal democracy, and some criticisms of the unnecessary persecution of political opponents, the fundamentals of liberty are firmly fixed in the USSR. And they are fixed on the only ground on which liberty really matters — economic. No class to exploit the workers and peasants; wide sharing of control in the economic organizations; and the wealth produced is common property.”

    https://www2.law.ucla.edu/volokh/blog/baldwin.pdf

    • B.P.

      [Civil liberties are] like a streetcar. When you get to your stop, you get off.

  34. l0b0t

    As a mood lightener/advice for Hayeksplosives, please to enjoy the best resignation ever –

    NEWS RELEASE, AIR PROVING GROUND COMMAND, EGLIN AIR FORCE BASE, FLORIDA

    EGLIN AFB, FLORIDA (November 8)–S/Sgt. Manmountain Dense, a novice Air Policeman, was severely injured here today when a wine bottle exploded inside the AP gatehouse at the west entrance to the base. Dense was incoherent for several hours after the disaster, but managed to make a statement which led investigators to believe the bottle was hurled from a speeding car which approached the gatehouse on the wrong side of the road, coming from the general direction of the SEPARATION CENTER.

    Further investigation revealed that, only minutes before the incident at the gatehouse, a reportedly “fanatical” airman had received his separation papers and was rumored to have set out in the direction of the gatehouse at a high speed in a muffler-less car with no brakes. An immediate search was begun for Hunter S. Thompson, one-time sports editor of the base newspaper and well-known “morale problem.” Thompson was known to have a sometimes overpowering affinity for wine and was described by a recent arrival in the base sanatorium as “just the type of bastard who would do a thing like that.”

    An apparently uncontrollable iconoclast, Thompson was discharged today after one of the most hectic and unusual Air Force careers in recent history. According to Captain Munnington Thurd, who was relieved of his duties as base classification officer yesterday and admitted to the neuropsychological section of the base hospital, Thompson was “totally unclassifiable” and “one of the most savage and unnatural airmen I’ve ever come up against.”

    “I’ll never understand how he got this discharge,” Thurd went on to say. “I almost had a stroke yesterday when I heard he was being given an honorable discharge. It’s terrifying–simply terrifying.”

    And then Thurd sank into a delirium.”

  35. Rebel Scum

    Papers please.

    Wen said, “Well, I hope that President Biden will do three really important things. First is to mandate vaccinations on planes and trains, places that he has jurisdiction over. There are a lot of people who are still on the fence about getting vaccinated. If they know, they have to be vaccinated in order to travel to see friends and family, to do business travel, et cetera, that can really put them over the edge.”

    She continued, “The second thing is we really need to get behind a proof of vaccination system. We know that the honor code doesn’t work. You don’t board a plane. You don’t go to the airport and say I am who I say I am. I don’t have to show you any identification. We don’t allow that, and we shouldn’t allow people to carry around pieces of paper that can be easily faked. We need a national proof of vaccination system.”

    Wen added, “The third is I really hope that President Biden will explore all other avenues including tying federal funding to try to help push states that are not even allowing for schools to do mask mandates, for example. We really need to do something about that because it’s unconscionable that there are states putting kids’ lives in danger and forces them into a herd immunity experiment they didn’t sign up for.

    What the actual fuck?

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      She truly is an evil bitch that peddles in death and tyranny.

    • Ghostpatzer

      What is wrong with people? There is actually an ongoing experiment that no one signed up for, but this asshat has no problem with that.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        They believe they’re in charge and they want you to know it.

        Keep pushing. It’s not going to go like you think it will.

      • Ownbestenemy

        You signed it when you exited your mother’s womb…social contract and all

      • Ghostpatzer

        I had my fingers crossed.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      Oh god, it’s the totalitarian bitch with the weird gums again.

    • Ownbestenemy

      “putting kids’ lives in danger and forces them into a herd immunity experiment they didn’t sign up for.” Instead, we should put them in danger by giving them this medication

    • DEG

      The second thing is we really need to get behind a proof of vaccination system.

      This might explain NH-DHHS’ recent push to expand the state vaccine registry, part of which seems to me to play fast and loose with state laws about the registry.

    • Raven Nation

      “You don’t board a plane. You don’t go to the airport and say I am who I say I am. I don’t have to show you any identification. We don’t allow that, and we shouldn’t allow people to carry around pieces of paper that can be easily faked”

      Voting, on the other hand…

  36. Scruffy Nerfherder

    The CDC just changed its definition of “vaccine” again.

    From Berenson

    Act 1, Aug. 26, 2021 (and before): The CDC defines a vaccine as “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease.”

    Act 2, August 28, 2021: I tweet that we should not think of the mRNA vaccines as vaccines because they do not stop infection. Twitter rules my tweet misleading and suspends me for “violations of our COVID-19 misinformation rules.” This defamatory act prevents me from using my account anywhere in the world.

    Act 3, Sep. 1, 2021: The CDC changes its definition of “vaccine,” removing the standard that vaccines produce immunity. Now they just need to “stimulate the body’s immune response.”

    I don’t remember what the definition was before they changed it last year to accommodate the mRNA clot shots.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’ll note that allergens stimulate an immune response too. Are they vaccines?

      • rhywun

        I can’t read it all since Twitter started requiring sign-in.

        Woe is me.

      • Tundra

        Clear yo cookies.

      • rhywun

        I’ll be damned.

      • Sensei

        “Clear Cookie and Reload” is a handy extension.

        It puts a button right there front and center and clears all the cookies used on only the page you are trying to view. Gets used all the time by me to read the NYT and WP.

      • rhywun

        Interesting. Yeah, I am having to do that more frequently lately.

      • Sensei

        Or uBlock Origin seems to work for me as well with most of the filter lists enabled.

      • rhywun

        I already use that. I’ll try the cookie thing.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Also “smallpox vaccines aren’t/weren’t real vaccines because they were from cow pox”

      The vax opponents are just as retarded as the vax cultists.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        Yes. There are plenty who aren’t helping.

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        +5G Tracking Vax

    • Ownbestenemy

      So vitamins can be defined as a vaccine?

  37. Gustave Lytton

    So now my food chain is sending emails “reminding” me to update my vaccination status by the deadline. I’ve decided to tweak the beast on the way down because ultimately I’ll rollover unless they blink first (unlikely). First up is opening tickets with HR on various aspects of the form. They’ll close or ignore them, but they will still have to waste time on it and create yet another record.

    I still have the email from when it was first rolled out as voluntary with promises that only certain HR personnel would be able to access it (so how is my food chain able to know I haven’t done it?? Yeah, because integrity only applies when it’s time to discipline an employee).

    • Ownbestenemy

      This is where I will be at in about a month. We have an antenna team coming out to assist in some major maintenance. Am I required to ascertain their vaccination status? Why would I, it isn’t my business and they should follow the rules? Do I have to manage them (they aren’t in my organization)? Seems the Feds haven’t thought this through in terms of our policies here at the FAA.

    • Ghostpatzer

      BOOOOO!

      Sorry, I got nothin’. Fuckers.

      • Ghostpatzer

        That works. Tired of the tune, indeed.

    • Dr. Fronkensteen

      Gorilla mask. Racist.

      • rhywun

        And she tries to assault his bodyguard. Classy gal.

        I wish* I could make out what she’s ranting.

        *No I don’t

    • Ownbestenemy

      She was what…two feet away from him? And completely missed him. Not dedicated…loser

    • B.P.

      Asskickings used to curtail this sort of behavior.

    • DEG

      You know what, fuck it.

      I’m kicking more money into the Elder tip jar.

      I kicked less than $100 last time so that I didn’t get my name on a list. I heard somewhere that is the reporting cut-off.

      But fuck it. I don’t give a shit. I’m kicking in a grand. I’ve never donated this much to a political campaign. Ever.

      The only thing I can do to help get rid of Newsom and help Elder out is to donate money. So I’m doing it.

      Recall Newsom and his supporters.

      • Urthona

        isn’t he slated to lose handily?

      • DEG

        Elder or Newsom?

        Last I heard polling numbers, it was close.

        I suspect with the caveat that I’m not in California, that enough people are pissed off that Newsom loses.

      • Gadfly

        Newsom is expected to win (currently retain is +10 over recall in the polls). If by some miracle Newsom loses, Elder is +20 in the polls on preferred replacement. In all honesty, the fact that Elder is running away with it in the replacement polls is probably helping Newsom in the recall polls.

      • db

        Why don’t they separate the elections? It’s easy to see that if a party didn’t want the recall to happen they could put up the craziest mf-er they could and fund the shit out of him to scare people into voting “no” on recall.

      • B.P.

        If Newsom survives, I’ll be interested to see if there’s a noticeable exodus from the state.

      • Tundra

        They’ve already lost more businesses this year than all of last. And that’s just companies big enough to be tracked.

  38. Jerms

    Got an email today from a hospice company that i help out at. Must be vaccinated to volunteer from now on. First shot must be in your arm by Oct. 7th.
    So nice to be retired and to be able to tell everyone to fuck off.

    • The coolest vaccine-free BEAM in the world™

      That is the nice thing about retirement, yes.

      At least, until my portfolio management firm tells me that they won’t allow me to access any more of my money until I can prove that I’m vaxxed. Wouldn’t surprise me.

  39. Gadfly

    The dastardly Taliban disappoints the West again: Taliban paint over George Floyd mural in Kabul

    For those who don’t read articles, the Taliban is replacing all non-Taliban propaganda with Taliban propaganda throughout Kabul, which is why this mural was painted over. For those wondering why there was a mural featuring George Floyd in Kabul, it was painted by a group of local artists funded by an organization with a donor list that includes the National Endowment for Democracy, the Canadian Embassy, and UNICEF.

    • blighted_non_millenial

      It’s trolls all the way down.

    • db

      Central Asians have frequently been noted for their concern for Black lives.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      artists and volunteers motivated by the desire to pave the way for social transformation and behavioral change

      Fuck. Off.

      I think I might prefer the Taliban to these fucks.

    • Tulip

      Eat the whole thing!

      • Sean

        I took a couple nibbles and the rest went into salsa.

        Very sweet up front, then a lil pungent, and then the heat comes on.

        Pretty spicy, though less burn than the chocolate bhutlas. The sweet taste lingers a bit.

        I got a peach reaper and scotch brain strain ripening up next.

    • Spudalicious

      Looks like a Carolina Reaper.

      • Sean

        Developed in Italy.

  40. R C Dean

    Carrie Nation, Karen Prime, funkiller, joysmasher, the “moral” core of Prohibition

    Also, violent criminal. And, unhinged religious fanatic.

    • limey

      Carrie Nation: a “reframing”

    • rhywun

      The easier to calculate your social credit score.

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      “I’m sorry, I don’t do social media.”
      The only right answer whether you do or not.

      • Grumbletarian

        This, only I wouldn’t apologize for not being on social media.

      • Animal

        Or you could just reply “No.”

      • db

        “I would like to speak to my attorney before answering any more questions, Officer.”

    • Scruffy Nerfherder

      @fuckoff

    • westernsloper

      Am I being detained?

    • db

      I’ve got a meeting with China at 2000 EDT; I may need to join and blow off steam afterward. Just got off a call with Japan.

      • db

        heh heh heh

      • db

        Men with insight?
        Men in granite?
        Knights in armor bent on Chivalry?

        Canceled.

      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        db I have an avgeek video to share if you join

    • nw

      apparently no one likes me

  41. LCDR_Fish

    Well nuts. My tailbone has been feeling great all weekend – literally no issue sitting on any work chair, car seat, etc….for 5 days. Today, pain starting to come back in the same place it was before my treatment last week. Extremely frustrating and disappointing. Just sent an update to the doctor to see where we go next.

  42. westernsloper

    Always loved Elvis Costello. Although I get him mixed up with Warren Zevon because I am a musical tard.

    • Tundra

      Can’t go wrong with either, brother.

    • The Hyperbole

      I sometimes confuse Warren Zevon with John Hiatt, and John Hiatt with Graham Parker, and Graham Parker with Elis Costello , but Elvis and Warren? you are Tarded.

      • Tundra

        Fuck you, Hyp. 😉

  43. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Neighbors just texted me. Four of them just popped positive for CV.

    They’re trying to get ivermectin and are looking for advice.

    I’d recommend that everyone get their hands on some now if they think they might need it in the future.

    • Tundra

      Did you ever get yours filled?

      • Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s at an independent compounding pharmacy now.

      • db

        How did you get a script?

    • Ted S.

      Scruffy’s a superspreader!

    • db

      That pic I posted the other day was from the manual for a swine/cattle subcutaneous injection that is available at Tractor Supply online.

  44. UnCivilServant

    I just got back from Carlsbad Caverns. I took some three hundred or so pictures I have to sort through to find the good ones. Outside the visitor center I spotted a butterfly and took This picture of it. Anyone know the type? It is living in southern New Mexico.

    • The Hyperbole

      Eastern Black Swallowtail

      • dbleagle

        On some Brittlebush.