So Sloopy posted this link in the Founders’ Chat.
Much discussion ensued, with Brett L saying:
”High Fidelity prepared us for this: Top 5 pop acts of all time. Go.”
Your turn!
So Sloopy posted this link in the Founders’ Chat.
Much discussion ensued, with Brett L saying:
”High Fidelity prepared us for this: Top 5 pop acts of all time. Go.”
Your turn!
I had limited options for concert-going when I was a kid, so I’ve made up for it by seeing the acts I liked then, now (if they’re still around / touring). Strangely, many were groups named after places.
Kansas
Chicago
Asia
Boston
Styx (mythical place, but still…)
That said, those groups are no one’s idea of the top five of all time. But I don’t need the extensive choreography of a stage act (looking at you Cher, Madonna, Gaga) or the “high energy three hour concert” (Springsteen, Garth Brooks).
Freddie Mercury-era Queen and Michael Jackson were probably in most critics’ top five, but I’m no professional music critic.
Those 5 are very solid personal choices, well done!
Esp. Kansas
Kansas had exactly two hits. You people are high.
Well, yeah. There’s a difference between “hits” and “music I like”. I was temporarily expanding my mind to include the latter.
I wore their greatest hits album out.
#metoo
Was it a 45?
ALOL
Did Asia have that many?
FWIW, between 1982 and 1990 Asia had ten singles that made the Top 40 on the US Mainstream chart, seven of which reached the top ten.
By the time they released this song, pop music tastes had changed (read: every single was “Lil ___ feat. Whoever” doing some forgettable hip-hop autotuned crap).
Huh. I had no idea. I guess the stations I listened to weren’t taking cues from the Mainstream chart.
This reminds me of something I heard Eddie Trunk talk about once about how geography played a part in what bands people knew, back before corporate radio. Bands that were “meh” nationwide might be huge in certain regions, and vice versa.
And as much as I like Boston as a teenager, when your shtick is soaring guitar riffs, everything is going to sound kind of the same.
Agreed but still.
Yeah, I still wore my cassettes out.
I wore out a cassette of Hysteria. Also Aerosmith’s Greatest Hits (the first one)
Boston only had one song, which they repeated across two albums.
Aerosmith has “Dream On,” and then only one other song they keep rereleasing under different names.
1. The Beatles
2. Madonna
3. Elton John
4. Elvis Presley
5. Mariah Carey
6. Stevie Wonder
7. Janet Jackson
8. Michael Jackson
9. Whitney Houston
10. Rihanna
I’m pretty sure I’ve never seen any of those people, and I’m certain Stevie Wonder has never seen me.
Heh, I’ve actually seen Stevie Wonder in concert. Older bro dragged me to it.
I would have chosen to see the Beatles in their mid-sixties prime, no hesitation.
Elton peaked on his first album, IMHO.
The rest… hard meh.
I saw Stevie Wonder several years ago after the Austin Grand Prix. When he started playing the national anthem on his knees, you never saw so many people walk out of a show. Zero mention in the local or national media.
This is too hard of a question. But, since that’s a lame response:
The Church
Guided By Voices
Hüsker Dü
The Cure
Replacements
BRB with another five!
I’ve seen The Cure and Hüsker Dü. I guess The Cure is kind of pop.
The question is epic trolling.
I’m not even going to attempt a serious answer.
Garth Brooks.
Elvis is the closest to country on that list, which apart from that is awful on a number of levels. Rihanna? Please.
People on the Twit feed kept asking “Where’s Kayne?”
I don’t even know how to respond to that.
Stones live ’76
Stones live ’81
Stones live ’89
Stones live ’09 the very best show
The Stones last good album came out when I was in High School.
Scratch that… I was only 13 when Some Girls was released. Anything after that was mixed.
I wore out Emotional Rescue and Tattoo You, but meh.
My grand-daughter wears my Stones ’81 shirt from the LA Coliseum. I didn’t get to go but my uncle got me the shirt.
Prince and J Geils opened.
Prince got booed off the stage when he sang ‘Jack Me Off’.
Stones live ’13
Stones: 72 Akron, 75 Cleveland, 78 Lexington, 89 Cleveland, 03 Columbus, 15 Columbus
The last one my 3 kids went with me, all wearing my souvenir shirts from prior tours.
All time?
Elton
Bowie
Queen
Mick
Elvis
The Cure
Depeche Mode
Pistols
B-52’s
“B-52’s”
*retches*
There is no accounting for some people’s bad taste. :^)
“Love Shack” is an immediate change of the radio station for me.
Love Shack is my Karaoke go to.
We can no longer be friends. Sorry.
::taps mic:: Is this thing still on?
…ahem…
The BUUUUTT CRAAAACK is a place where
two cheeks COME TOGETHER
butt crack
it’s a butt crack
butt crack
it’s a butt crack
Thank you! Thank you all very much! I’ll just see myself out
For you, my friend
Wrong.
Roam, motherfucker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB4G9WBYMFo
A fun tour.
MEGADETH!
Fuck Metallica!
YOU TAKE A MORTAL MAN
AND PUT HIM IN CONTROL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy4dhcELoqc
????
Muddy Waters
Pixies
Misfits
Tool
Prince
Television
Blondie
Ramones
X
Minutemen
And, bonus, if I never hear Beatles in any way, shape, or form again it will be too fucking soon.
Hey, tomorrow never knows.
*shrugs*
OK, a couple of them aren’t really “pop”, so
Stranglers
Stiff little fingers
Nick Cave
Old ’97’s
I’ve only fairly recently discovered them, but this song is on my current (nd very fluid) top 100 songs list.
This might be a good addition to the list
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lKTEqTo_DY
(Squeals with delight) The Stranglers’ Shut Up has been my ringtone for many years. But I think Toiler On The Sea might be my favorite because of the decade-ahead-of-its-time keyboard work.
‘…Minutemen”
I knew I liked you, Zwak.
Throw in some fireHOSE, Meatpuppets, Suburbs, and the Replacements and I’d gay marry you*.
*j/k never getting married again!
Well, I have seen fIREHOSE, Meatpuppets, Mike Watt…
*swoons*
I’ve mentioned before that I have stalked Mike Watt’s house in San Pedro.
OK, my five faves from HS daze ..
Steppenwolf, because my first concert.
The Who, because Tommy was the soundtrack to good times with my first GF.
Cream, because I was introduced to weed at MSG during their concert.
CCR, because I honed my vocal skills by singing along with Bayou Country all summer in 1968.
The Mamas an the Papas because I love me some tight vocal arrangements.
Oh hell yeah.
Pop geniuses, truth be told.
The Who — 1978 was my first real concert. Kenny Jones was on Drums and Pete Townsend was playing with a cast on.
Last fucking row of the LA Forum.
It was still incredible.
My dad bought a cassette recorder in the early ’80s in the Soviet Union. It came with an album of the Mamas and the Papas. Like them since then.
J. Geils Band was easily the best live act I’ve ever seen.
2. Dio
3. Rush
4. Cab Callaway
5. Peter Frampton
J Geils Band was awesome before they turned pop. Then they were merely very good.
In Massachusetts they had a rabid following throughout their career. I always thought that their second live album was the best.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8a8cutYP7foCeRXRHRakCuatTM4PLl-J
OK, MikeS, THAT was good!
Whammmer Jammer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLD_Lv98Yyc
I’m down a rabbit hole!
I’m playing the whole album. And after that, I’m playing Blow Your Face Out per Drake’s suggestion. It’s a J Geils night!
Hey Reputa!
I would have listened to a lot more J. Geils if they had stuck with that.
Drake may be the most interesting man in the world.
Iron Maiden
Celtic Frost
Pantera
Iggy and the Stooges
Debbie Gibson
?
Funny, I was just watching clips from American Psycho.
And that list from Billboard sucks donkey balls.
Huey Lewis or Hootie and the BlowFish?
Don’t you disparage Huey Lewis and the News. They pumped out some prime pop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6uEMOeDZsA
Absolutely, Huey Lewis and the News made some great fricking pop music.
“I think with this album, they really came into their own, commercially and artistically.”
Every song on that album was a commercial success.
20 comments in, and my playlist is already posted, fucking Lemmings we are!
Question hard. Brain hurts.
Blondie
ELO
Kenny Loggins
Dan Fogelberg
Fleetwood Mac
I’m not a
bigpop fan, but what are Janet, Whitney, and Rhianna doing on that list? And Janet is ahead of Michael?! And Madonna is ahead of Elton and Elvis?! Seems like this list (like most) was purpose-made to induce IOS**Internet Outrage Syndrome
Janet > Michael
Elton > Madonna
Elvis ?
Without Elvis, we’d be talking Buble’ vs. Connick.
Nom nom nom
I’ll stick to pop.
1) Prince
2) Michael Jackson
3) Bowie
4) Peter Gabriel
5) Rick Astley, bitches
Prince, even though I’m not really a fan, and Bowie need to replace someone (Rhianna and Janet because I’m apparently misogynistic) on this poorly ordered original list.
As far as pop goes, those are solid. I’d replace Rick Astley with possibly Duran Duran.
Very first concert I attended was Iron Butterfly on the Inna-Godda-da-Vida tour. Three warmup bands, including Buffalo Springfield. The second band hand to do a 45-minute cover of “Spoonful” because one of the Springfield drummers had slept past his ride to the venue.
Memorable was the Steppenwolf concert where the lead guitarist broke a sting in the middle of “Monster” and they stopped the song to replace it.
The concert where I lost my voice because I was screaming so loud was Blue Oyster Cult/Uriah Heep.
Honorable Mentions to Rush (several times) and Jethro Tull.
Oh, and Grand Funk Railroad with Bloodrock opening. Almost got laid after that one.
BOC would finish their shows with all members on the same instruments during the encore. All five on guitars doing “Hot Rails to Hell” is etched onto my brain.
Also: Never saw any of the folks on the list and, generally, never had any desire to.
Seeing as the question was five best pop acts it will have to be:
1) Prince
2) MJ
3) Elvis
4) Fleetwood Mac
5) Taylor Swift
Yeah, I was surprised to see a few of them but no Prince. And Ms. Swift is still young, but AFAIK is earning (has earned?) her way onto that list.
Fleetwood Mac is another band that was better (IMO) before they turned pop.
And for the metal heads, the more recent version.
Agreed, they were better before they were pop (at least for my taste) but their pop output was good enough to put them high up there in the best list.
Taylor is pop perfection. I imagine she is gonna keep dominating.
Fort sure, didn’t mean to diminish Fleetwood’s pop bona fides. I’m trying to remember…I think I saw an interview with Mic Fleetwood and he said (paraphrasing) it was too bad we made the musical change, but it made us big so…
I couldn’t name a single song.
Long since pay no attention to what is now “pop”.
I saw them about 10 years ago. Lindsey Buckingham is an underrated guitarist. “I’m So Afraid” was the highlight of the show.
https://youtu.be/HPNGKZHRFSU
That song is so good that both versions work.
I saw Prince a couple weeks before he died. Great show. I wish I had splurged for better seats. Though I may be pigmentally challenged, deep inside there a funky little black man trying to get out.
Someone needs to add some Cheap Trick to the mix. Power pop at its finest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qgpewMCVjs
And, of course, Squeeze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5g7NdWV8ig
Squeeze was one of the best “New Wave” pop bands.
My roommate gave me a ticket to Difford and Tilbrook from Squeeze back in the 90s. Great show. Midway through the show my roommate looks at me and says “why did I waste the ticket on you? I should have brought a date.”
My pop list:
The ’70s.
???
Music went to hell after that. (Tightens onion on belt)
I’ve been many more country or classical concerts but here goes:
Dire Straits
Queen (Only seen on YT but they look great. I missed the one time in HS but friends who went raved about it.)
Fleetwood Mac
John Prine (Nothing fancy but both times the crowd was really into it.)
Neil Diamond
John Prine should be on every list.
To have had a chance to see this live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T5NuI6Ai-o
Vodka and Ginger Ale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0EiV423j0M
I saw him in Dooloot just a few months before he died. It was the perfect Father’s Day gift.
I’m forever irritated with myself for not seeing him more recently. I saw him close to 20 years ago. Had a chance in a small venue in Fargo a year or so before he died and missed my chance. Stupid.
I saw him in Fargo in the 90’s.
Also saw him in Wichita in the 2000’s
My one show was in Grand Forks in the 2000’s
I saw him in Ventura, Cali back in the late 90’s and in Honolulu in 2012 or 2013.
We brought our two teens to the Cali show. They were horrified when he started the show with “Spanish Pipedream” and the crowd, including their parents, started dancing in the aisles. But after the show I caught them listening to the CD’s and albums when they thought we couldn’t hear.
I had a vodka & ginger ale the day he died. OK, more than one. RIP, JP
Well he ain’t got laid in a month of Sundays
I caught him once and he was sniffin’ my undies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8tTwXv4glY
Neil Diamond is under-rated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGvMjgLXBi0
Come take my hand.
“Hot August Night”. The prologue building is still something.
I was going to mention “Hot August Night”. Still one of my favorites.
Your list is close enough to mine that I’m just gonna go with it.
John Prine! Saw him at a small club in cleveland in about 1979. Great!
Loudon Wainwright III
Do you mean pop as in popular? Sorry kiddos
Here’s my list, arrange them in any order you like
Frank Sinatra
Perry Como
Ray Charles
The Coasters and Drifters-tie
Doris Day
Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons
Connie Francis in any language
Elvis
Mamas and Papas
Tony Bennett
Your parents and grandparents would probably agree
You forgot Patsy Cline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDVOZLKSLRc&list=OLAK5uy_kAcSpqxF9K-f8BoZWCEwdpaS2LFe2QAtc
Years ago I remarked that I found great comfort in knowing that every single bar in New Mexico had a Patsy Cline song on the jukebox.
Patsy’s on the country list but you are right
And the penultimate Patsy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbnrdCS57d0
No love for Dean Martin?
Sinatra may be the best of all time, especially while buzzed drunk in a smoky bar late at night.
“One more for my baby, and one more for the road.”
Dean almost made the list but Perry Como aced him out. I like the Dino though too.
Dean and another guy who tried to make this list.
Rick should have been drinking coke on his last flight, he’d be here tonight. We were the same age.
Dino was a far better human than Frank. Sammy was more talented than either of them.
https://youtu.be/yyN-aHtAVzs
OK. Now I need a bottle on Suntory.
Awesome! I love me some Sammy. He could tear it up on the drums too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baHH2Kqz1SQ
You have excellent taste, 4X.
Ted Nugent rocks, holy crap! A full blown Lib, in the best way,
Double Live Gonzo is my thrash.
Dimmu Brogir
Gorgoroth
Surom
Bloodbath
Entombed
What! No Pig Destroyer?
I just can’t even.
ℑ ???? ???’? ????.
I see no 3 inches of blood in your list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUd4Cbc49mg
I forgot the two that I saw at Paulo Soleri:
Santana and Pat Metheny.
Both wonderful.
No Rolling Stones? They do an awesome show.
Their “Bridge to Babylon” tour was probably the last concert I ever went to. Little, itty-bitty people on a stage far away. Wound up just watching the show on the massive teevee screen above the band.
Three months later I saw the exact same concert on HBO from the comfort of my living room, same that I had seen shivering in the cold, standing on my feet. Pretty much closed the lid for me on live concerts.
I was wondering this. When I started buying albums in my early teens, I noticed that two bands I’d get records of had all these songs I’d previously heard and liked: Stones & Zeppelin.
Well, this will probably get me banned from Glibs BUT, the two live performances I enjoyed the most were…
Bruce Springsteen: his first ever concert in Australia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm7UGF0JCAo
Larry Norman: first time I ever saw him. Also probably in the 1980s. I think I was involved in stage set up but got to see the whole concert anyway.
This probably would have been a great concert experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11MzbEcHlw&list=RDGMEMJQXQAmqrnmK1SEjY_rKBGA&start_radio=1&rv=xm7UGF0JCAo
Early Springsteen before he started smelling his own farts was good. “Greetings from Asbury Park” is solid and so is the album “Born to Run”. The way he ordered the songs told a coherent musical story. Now? Screw him. He may want to forget his Super Bowl ad, but I won’t.
I think the last album I’ve listened to was The Rising.
I loved Born in the USA but, as I’ve aged, I’ve come to appreciate his earlier ones. My favorite is probably The River.
Lot of Springsteen fans in Oz hated Born in the USA. Not because of the music, but because it was a pop hit and gained him a whole slew of new fans. We’d been waiting for him to come to Australia for 15 years and suddenly it became almost impossible to get tickets. For his concert in Brisbane, you could only order by mail (with a check). I had my grandma write a check and drove to the main post office on a Saturday morning to drop it off. The concert was scheduled to be held in a venue that held, I think, 8000. By Monday morning, they had 20,000 ticket apps. Moved it to a stadium that held 50,000 and he didn’t quite fill it.
Gah. I saw REM when they were huge. I don’t like that kind of concert.
Fortunately my tastes got passed over and pretty much every concert I’ve seen since was much more intimate.
I was stationed in Ft Monmouth NJ when Born in the USA came out. You would thought, listening to the local rock station, that no other music had ever been made.
There was a B side single not on the album. Jersey Girl. It was every third song on every station in NJ for the better part of a year.
I have hated Springsteen with the white hot passion of a 1000 suns for 30 years.
A lad from Freehold that made the big tme
Norman and Randy Stonehill toured together a lot during the late 70s, and I always thought they were a solid live performance experience. Stonehill could be a real goofball on stage but he always delivered the goods, and Norman was kinda the ultimate straight guy, deadpan delivery that could just drop you if you were in the right mood.
Related questions. What is the best concert album? The best concert film?
“The Last Waltz” for concert film is my selection.
Agree on The Last Waltz.
You didn’t ask but, best soundtrack, Blues Brothers.
Great soundtrack. The only song not filmed live was Aretha’s. The other could start again between takes but she was different enough that they couldn’t synch the takes. The next time you watch- watch closely. You’ll notice sometimes the sound and body synch, other times not.
The Who concert/clip film ‘The Kids Are Alright’ was something that I wore out the album and a VHS.
My Dad was ready to throw out the album.
Quadrophinia.
But yeah.
That one too, but that was my school room-mate.
Movie: “Monterrey Pop”. The segment with Ravi Shankar was memorable.
Albums? Too many great ones to choose.
Ooh, Monterey Pop is also very good.
Monterrey Pop is excellent. Haven’t watched that in decades.
Cass: (Oh wow, that was really heavy!)
Which makes me think that “The Band” deserves more love on this list than they’re getting.
Put the load right on me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFqb1I-hiHE
heh heh
I saw the Band, less Robbie Robertson, who had recently released his solo work, and Richard Denko, who died in ST Paul MN at the fairgrounds in summer of maybe ’88.
They were on the side stage with Canned Heat opening, while Humble Pie and Reo Speedwagon were on the main stage.
The sidestage show, where I was 45 feet from the stage, was WORLDS better than the shit going on the main stage.
They had a song about Dixie, so they’re out
/modern sensibilities
YES!
For me, At Budokan by Cheap Trick was my favorite live album. I’m sure The Last Waltz is a very good album, but I’m not a huge fan of the musicians involved.
Lee Michaels (self titled) and If You Want Blood (AC/DC) for best concert albums in the non jazz or classical category. Stop Making Sense for concert film.
If You Want Blood
KSue speaking truth.
They were my first concert (Blow Up Your Video 1988) and still remain one of my favorite bands. I think I lost five percent of my hearing at that show.
All hail the man from SF.
Speaking of great shows Chafed, this one was a classic. Ozzy at a great small theatre in 1991 in SF. I was ten feet from the stage the whole time.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/ozzy-osbourne/1991/the-warfield-san-francisco-ca-1bde95dc.html
Ha! The name of the theater is my last name. I have seen a bunch of shows there, and I think the wife saw Bowie there at leat six times.
Your fam has a great venue. Wish I saw Bowie when I had a chance.
You lucky, lucky bastard.
Stop Making Sense ties for first with the Oingo Boingo farewell concert DVD.
I saw OB at the Hollywood Palladium on New Years in 88/89. Fun.
Aerosmith Live Bootleg.
First album I ever bought.
“What is the best concert album? The best concert film?”
The Song Remains The Same is a good answer for both.
That is a great album, but I don’t think I’ve ever watched that whole movie thru without falling asleep.
I had the 8-track in HS and would play it on a constant loop, but I can’t make it thru that movie.
Best concert film?
Stop Making Sense
Best concert album?
Too many to choose from but Exit Stage Left is up there.
X, live a the Whiskey A Go Go on the fabulous Sunset Strip!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yE14N0_-no
Ok, that is supposed to be a reply to DblEagle
db’s top ten music acts (in no particular order except #1)
1. Rush
2. Pink Floyd
3. Messer Chups
4. Dave Brubeck
5. Gary Burton
6. Van Halen
7. Buddy Rich
8. Yes
9. Blue Öyster Cult
10. Emerson Lake and Palmer
1. Rush
2. Pink Floyd
7. Buddy Rich
8. Yes
9. Blue Öyster Cult
10. Emerson Lake and Palmer
OK we can be friends again, despite your love for rubbery bacon!
YAY
After last night I expected to see Steel Panther on your list.
Laugh? Cry?
????
I noped right out at “Billy Nye.”
Shit…I think I was the first to go OT.
Eh, 2^5 root-numbered comments on-topic is probably the theoretical limit here. Thanks for being the asymptote.
I wish the worst
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=610YNQ023yk
Nice!
That’s awesome. Sort of appropriate for my post that will hit tomorrow evening, at least it was many years ago. Never heard it before–thanks for sharing! Great break-up song.
Bill Nye Cringe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N1osd0jMC4
Jeebus! Where is my trigger warning?
Cry. He has become such a tool.
He’s always been a tool.
I’m persuaded.
Although I have converted to anarchism and don’t believe in voting, I will put in my vote for my favourite power pop band, The New Pornographers..
Only with Neko Case singing.
I have a couple albums that rarely make my rotation – I do like what I have heard.
Another very underrated one, both the band and Neko Case. Blacklisted is on the list of ten albums I would be exiled to a desert island with.
Best female vocalist by far. Blacklisted let her voice just SOAR!
You got Q’s attention.
You may quibble about whether they constitute an “act,” but I’d like to show some love for The Funk Brothers – the Motown house band. Standing in the Shadows of Motown is my favorite music documentary/concert film of all time. Had the pleasure of seeing them live a few years ago backing up some unknown but very talented singers. I feel as if I really saw a piece of music history.
For sure. Motown (the record label) is the hands down best label in the music biz.
You can’t mention “FUNK” without mentioning Funkadelic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_20BvG3H6DY
If you give a mouse a funkie, he’ll want a maggotbrain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOKn33-q4Ao
Don’t forget Sly!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF3TQlgybz0
Who could?
Let Me Have It All!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2TB0Mx_v7M
(Page Hamilton of Helmet smokes on this)
Flashlight!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWurqD68u70
“…more #1 hits than The Beatles, The Beach Boys, The Rolling Stones, and Elvis…COMBINED,” bitchezz!!!
It’s hard to pick just 5, but I’d say (no particular order)
Led Zepelin
Rush
Pink Floyd
Yes
Peter Gabriel
Honorable Mention (more poppish): Heart
Zep, Gabriel, and Heart are alos high up with me, along with the others already mentioned.
HOW DID I FORGET HEART?!
I’ve said it before – I’d give my left tit to be able to sing like Ann Wilson.
And back in the 80’s I’d have given my left nut to something something Nancy Wilson.
OT: Woooo NYCFC! Up yours, New England.
Too bad our top scorer lost his mind and is out for the Eastern Conference championship who cares we beat NE.
Music is for the gays.
Relax.
I don’t even have to click to know what it is. Well played.
I listened through “Welcome to the Pleasuredome” a few months ago and it’s an amazing edifice of coked-out decision making.
Weird soundscape track! 14 minute title track! Ronald Regan impressions! Straight Springsteen cover!
Consider this tonight for the morning links:
For those of you who still want to pretend that there is merely a possible bias to the media, but certainly nothing more….. After completely ignoring the story for months and months… Every single major left leaning publication put out stories demanding that CNN fire Chris Cuomo because he tried to help his brother skate on the allegations of sexual harassment.
All of them. On the same day. Using the same language. Even Rolling Stone, for crying out loud. As if covering CNN opinion hosts is a hot button beat for Rolling Stone.
“Any other reporter would have been fired immediately”.
They all just independently came up with this at the same time.
This from the same group that all decided that a red SUV accidentally drove through a parade, which is definitely not a story worth further exploration…. On the same day. Not even a single dissenting voice.
The same group that unanimously decided that the son of the leading presidential candidate having proof of corruption and possibly statutory rape on a laptop was a Russian hoax. On the same day. (Which was laugh out loud ludicrous… Even the Bidens did not deny it was real)
The same group that unanimously has decided that the project veritas story is a non-story. (An administration going after journalist’s sources is automatically a massive story). And now the diary that even right wing sites passed on because it could not be verified has been verified by this action…. And the juicy bits in that thing are rumored to be way, way, way worse than hiring prostitutes to do a watersports show…. (Something covered as nauseam for years, despite being completely made up out of whole cloth). So we have a diary by a president’s daughter that makes some very serious allegations…. And these same people have all decided… Unanimously…. That they have no interest in looking into it. Remember, these same people said that a teenager roughhousing on a bed with a teenage girl for 30 seconds 35 years ago at a party that is well documented to have never occurred was worthy of weeks of FBI investigation and national news coverage all day, every day. But these same people are unanimous on this one.
But you can explain those with a healthy dose of partisanship.
You cannot explain the sudden decision to collectively force Cuomo out at CNN as simply partisanship. There is no partisan angle. And you cannot even put forward a cogent theory as to how they all randomly came to this sudden conviction on the same day at the same time… Not without a central command and control mechanism. There is just no way that this is even remotely plausible unless someone is at the center of the spider’s web calling the shots.
It’s delicious, isn’t it?
FOX is running his greatest hits of lies and other assorted embarrassments.
But yeah, Journolist 2.0 is a thing (and I wasn’t paying attention to the original one).
So who is calling the shots?
/real question
Yes. My real question too.
My guess? The Clinton faction and the Obama team are pieces of “the establishment” that are fighting for control. Cuomo was a threat to their hegemony, so they took him out. All the rest exist at their largess…. This is why the lifetime political operatives in the bureaucracy tried to destroy Trump. He is not part of the establishment game.
The Bush family, the Clintons… All the same. Trump? Nope.. not under control of the establishment.
Not of the body!
+1 Landrieu
“It’s
festivalriotsocial justice protest time!”I seriously doubt there is one person (or even five or six) calling the shots. Just as all of us here could immediately tell what stories are going to get either pumped to the max or shot down in flames, so can the media types. They play off each other and they already know the general story line. And seeing as there are only five or six major corps that own almost all the media in this country it is pretty easy to coordinate the narrative. What’s surprising to me is that more people haven’t caught on yet. Although conservatives have in general become much more aware of this over the past five years or so.
But how does that account for Cuomo. The Atlantic called for him to be fired. And the Times. And Rolling Stone. And MSNBC… And ….
They were defending him a week ago.
And someone pulled the pin on him and that is that.
Journolist 2.0
Also, the DNC issues talking points.
Remember “Easter Worshipers”? So it goes all the way up to the top.
Although, a good thing about sheep is that they are easily lead to slaughter. Which is why they gave Trump $5Billion in free media because they all thought he was the most likely to lose to Hillary.
“the DNC issues talking points”
This. A handful of high-ranking machine politicos (think Valerie Jarret, Susan Rice, David Axelrod, etc.) in smoke-filled back rooms jot down some verbiage and send it through the phone tree. It’s the only explanation for why *all* the outlets agree on issues *all* the time using exactly the same language.
Wasn’t there a link about Harvard group having weekly calls to combat “disinformation”? It’s a cabAl.
Big spoiled Kittah is big,
little kittah!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rSfWxK252oep9CGk8
Awww… looks like Dog is guarding him/her.
And I have to put in a vote for the #1 grossing band of the ’80s (live performances), the Grateful Dead.
I saw them 6.5 times. The half was Madison Square Garden in 87. Could not get a ticket but got to hear some of the show from outside.
Their studio albums, less American Beauty and Workingman’s Dead, are uniformly terrible, but there was an energy to their live shows that was amazing.
Even without chemical enhancement.
I never understood the attraction of The Dead.
That’s because they are horrible.
Titty Tuesday after dark.
https://archive.md/Zy5vl
NSFW.
More like naked Tuesday.
Gynecological Exam Tuesday?
The Funk Brothers. The Swampers. The Wrecking Crew. Barefoot Jerry. The Grateful Dead
I don’t know if I’d call them “pop” but the five best concerts I’ve ever been to (in no particular order):
Disturbed
Rob Zombie
Incubus
Bloodhound Gang
Coachella 2001 (not because I gave a shit about the music, I thought it sucked, but because of the incredible number of hot, slutty girls on ecstasy)
I haven’t been to that many concerts, mostly because being packed in with a bunch of strangers is not a good time for me.
Best concerts as follows
1. Queen- Key Arena in 2005. The Bad Company guy was singing Freddy’s parts, but was still really good.
2. Neko Case- Paramount 2019. Not a huge fan of hers, but it was a great concert.
I saw the Kinks in 1985. Incredible show. My college roommate was working backstage. Apparently Ray and Dave Davies were fighting the entire show over finishing with ‘You Really Got Me’ or ‘Lola’. They came to blows during intermission and Ray must have won, because Lola was the closer.
Dave kept playing the riff for ‘You Really Got Me” between other songs to fire up the crowd. This was just after Van Halen had remade that song a hit 16 years after the Kinks had originally released it.
I think this morphed from “best pop” to “best concerts”?
For the latter, I’ve not seen a ton but:
– Nikka Costa
– Ice-T at the Middle East
– Lollapolloza 1992 – a murderer’s row of bands: The Jesus and Mary Chain, Ice Cube, Soundgarden, Ministry, Lush, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Pearl Jam
– Robert Cray at Jazzfest
– ??? Ben Folds, mebbe? Rustic Overtones?
Most memorable concert for me was 10,000 Maniacs at Shea’s in Buffalo. Say what you will about Natalie Merchant but that woman can control a room.
Is this a drugs/ass thing?
Orwell: my self-help guru – Slavery should be reinstated so that it can be abolished by a queer woman of colour
Titania McGrath is a treasure.
I haven’t seen it. Holy shit that is spot on.
LOL!
Some of us are getting old. These concert stories are revealing.
I have been to a lot of great concerts. Van Halen and Rush every time they came by starting in 79. Awesome shows. Van Halen made a quantum leap in… I think it was 1980.. women and children first? They changed the sound system from the two giant stacks of giant speakers on either side of the stage to a whole stage made of smaller speakers. It was so much clearer. You take it for granted now that the sound is good.. but back then concerts were really distorted and the mix was often bad.
For me that was the golden age… Springsteen, Billy Joel, foreigner, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Joan Jett, Fleetwood Mac, Queen… I saw Ozzy 2 weeks after the bat incident. He bit the head off a rubber bat and tossed it… It landed on the guy in front of me and I grabbed it. 5rh row, to the left. My left ear rang for days.
Everyone back then worked their ass off on stage. Those shows were all great.
But the best? Objectively?
I gotta go with Mike Cross. I saw him several times in the Chapel Hill / Durham area. Folk isn’t really my genre, but that dude was a great entertainer.
When you old men are all dead and in the ground, I’ll still be here Firsting in memory of you.
Speaking of Firsting… while you were off playing with yourself or something, I firsted all four articles today with (ostensibly) witty comments that were (tangentially) related to the links or subject at hand.
You better up your game, if you don’t want to be remembered, dimly, as the firster has-been or never-was.
I am carrying The First That Will Change Everything. I am the greatest Firster that has ever existed. The First Of All Firsters. You do not know of what you speak. Every ounce of my energy goes to The Gestation.
In other words, he’s preparing the indictment.
My “bad shows”?
I saw 2 legends back in the day. Dizzy Gillespie and Ray Charles. Not stunk to high heaven. I suppose they were both 20 years past their prime. But still…
Outside of country music, are there any entertainers who are actually great live these days?
I saw Alice in Chains about 5 years ago. They were great.
Why do I get a feeling this is Ozys doing…
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/judge-allen-winsor-pfizer-eua-comirnaty-vaccines-interchangeable/
Don’t believe it’s his case. He’s talked about it on here, though.
And this bullshit keeps getting repeated. Fully licensed products are given the same liability protections as EUA products. The liability protections stems from the Prep Act declaration not the EUA status.
Eurythmics.
Whitney Houston.
A-Ha
Michael Jackson
Journey
Ah, I forgot Eurythmics on my list. That was an oversight.
Oh yeah. Annie Lennox had great pipes.
Appeal for advice:
I need a new office chair. Mine is just not working.
I fractured my coccyx many years ago, so a “scooped” chair with an ill-defined transition from seat back to seat “seat” is no good. If it is a continuous curve, no buses no.
In July 2019, I had compression fractures of my lumbar vertebrae L2-L3 (fun fact: during a grand mal seizure, your own muscles can break your bones).
So lower back issues plague me.
I’m wiling to pay good money for a great office/computer chair.
Can any of you schlubs make a recommendation?
I use a Herman Miller with an extra thick pad for my ass.
I have a cheapo pad with cut-out that works pretty well.
Pop music? Talk about pop music? Paul Anka, Burt Bacharach, Karen Carpenter, The 5th Dimension, The Supremes, The Monkees, Glen Campbell.
In 2 hours and 15 minutes I will be L years old. Fuck…
Now to make it to C.
Happy one I hope! Have fun. Do something for yourself today whether it be a walk on the beach or involves a locked bathroom door. You’ve earned it, Buddy!
HB iobot.
I hit LX in 3 months
Happy birthday, l0b0t. One you’ve gone to L it’s smooth sailing.
Thank you all very much.
The big “L” was not much. The big “XXXI” is the one that really made me think. Why the fuck am I in this club doing cocaine with girls I was old enough to baby-sit a few years ago? That’s also when the Simpsons stopped being funny. Coincidence? I think not!
Welcome to the OTH Club.
Ah yes! The Ogle The Heinies Club! Here are your Sacred Mirrored Shades and ready excuses. Welcome, Brother!
You have to read that in Picard’s voice. Happy one, Friend!
I prefer the old fogey style wrap around shades that go over your readers.
I call those “X-Ray Specs”.
You old.
/not far behind.
Congrats… so I’m racing to the grave just ahead of you… 😉
https://nypost.com/2021/11/30/dr-oz-expected-to-join-race-for-pennsylvanias-senate-seat/
Go back to NJ, ya cunte.
He’s all yours. If we’re lucky, Murphy will follow.
https://www.fox29.com/news/asian-student-attacked-on-septa-train-heads-public-safety-rally
Shouldn’t they be on a rooftop?
Race is incidental, not essential, to who we are. Based.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10261889/Terrifying-moment-surfer-sees-SHARK-right-Puerto-Rico.html
You’re gonna need a bigger boat.
Weird looking dorsal for a shark. Porpoise maybe?
Morning, Glibs.
Good morning, U, Stinky, Sean, & l0 (and hayek if you’re still up.)
Nothing to say except….another month-end commences. ::slurps down some more coffee::
…and Happy Birthday, l0!
Thank you, thank you.
Fun.
The good news is that I have all the proposed new pay rates for next year except for senior management’s, and I don’t have to start entering them into the payroll system until January. Now we just have to wait for the CEO to approve all the pay rates and for the Board to approve the budget.
Did you get a decent raise?
I think so – fairly typical for a lot of the staff, but I’m probably at or near the top of my pay grade anyway.
Suffice it to say the org has been having a surprisingly good year.
I’m going to skin-suit the Hyperbole and tell you fine folk that you are wrong, wrong, wrong! Whiz, db and Pissedoffnick get dispensation. Those aren’t really “pop” bands, though.
Oh, yeah??? You probably think some CANADIAN acts are all that! ::starts humming a favorite Stan Rogers tune to herself::
Mornin’ GT, and the rest of you reprobates.
Sad omission by self – Guess Who, best Canadian band of all time.
Nooooo!!! Max Webster. Musically adept, smart as whips, talented and funny. Used to tour with Rush. The founder is sadly a DJ in Toronto now but he sporadically hits the clubs and old-fests. Really solid band. Not Rush but a different flavor.
Hard to answer without a clear definition of “Pop” is it a genre, are their defining characteristics other than whatever happens to be in the top 40 at any given time.
I think of “Pop” music as not being particularly serious. I’d put bands like The Cars or Blondie in that category. Most pop bands are lucky to strike oil twice. Everyone here seems to be discussing their favorite band or their favorite live show experience. Supertramp was a great pop band and not really my cup-o-tea but they were huge for about five years.
Then you have the serious bands that went pop. Looking at you Genesis.
To me “pop” is mostly defined as a good, memorable tune. It doesn’t have to be popular. And most popular music today is not “pop”.
It’s the popular music of the previous generation.
The B-52’s are terrible but also successful. I still listen to “Rock Lobster” once in awhile.
yep, not sure what “pop” is. So I went over the top silly “pop” black/dark/death metal as a ‘fun’. If it’s really just ‘favorite’ bands, that’s really tough too as it depends on the day/mood. For me it would definitely be (in that order):
1) Rush
2) Opeth
3) Fates Warning
4 through N would be a mish mash of Metallica, Iron Maiden, John Denver, Queensryche, Triumph, Dream Theater, Diablo Swing Orchestra, Nightwish, various classical composers, Amorphis, Therion, various instrumental get-to-gethers (a la Liquid Tension Experiment), ….
So I tend more to the technical serious instrumental chops side of things; but over the years, I’ve sort of learned that doesn’t preclude what’s commonly called ‘pop’ – there’s lots very simple repetitive self-similar boring stuff under the umbrella of what’s commonly called pop, but also lots of simple sounding stuff that requires incredible chops to play as well. Shrug. Listen to what inspires you I guess.
Pop “Act” requires a stage show. And you are all anglocentric bigots.
Therefore:
MJ
Madonna
SNSD
Big Bang
Garth
GWAR doesn’t count because they’re metal, not pop.
Strike Garth, replace with Brittney.
NYC opens facilities for recreational shooting.
https://nypost.com/2021/11/30/de-blasio-opening-supervised-injection-sites-for-drug-users-in-nyc/
“With just four weeks left in office, Mayor Bill de Blasio launched the country’s first legal shooting galleries Tuesday morning, calling them safe havens for addicts — shortly before five people overdosed at just one of the clinics on opening day.”
Four weeks left. Plenty of time to cause more damage.
Five people od’d at the facility?
I see no reason to punish or subsidize the bad habits of others.
As long as they shit there and not on the sidewalks outside, it’s a win.
OFFS.
One in Harlem and one in Washington Heights. If a Republican pulled this, the usual suspects would be shouting to the rooftops.
And these are “supervised” injection sites. Imagine the carnage absent the supervision. Whatever that means.
What about pop bands with their own tv shows: The Partridge Family, The Monkees, The Archies, Josie & The Pussycats, The Groovie Goolies, The Brady Kids, Jem & The Holograms, etc.?
I can’t even.
Don’t be a Jan.
Why not? Jan drove the Turks back from the gates of Vienna.
You forgot The Banana Splits
Can’t forget you mean…
Any list without Jem is a fail.
https://www.last.fm/music/Jem/Just+a+Ride
Good Morning all:
Isn’t this all about what bands we like?
suh’ fam
whats goody
Debate. Debate is goody! Howdy, Sensei!
The youngest Patzer plans to spend a few weeks in Japan this summer. He may want to reconsider…
https://nypost.com/2021/12/01/japan-suspends-new-reservations-on-all-incoming-flights/
It is astonishing. Fauci and Friends say “Jump” and the world replies, “How high?”
I don’t see that effect. I’m seeing more and more Fauci goes “jump” and people wander away.
Look at the optimist here.
I’m only relaying my observations.
It might be different in the downstate branch of the gulag.
I’m mostly talking about “the elite”. You know, the one who pull all the strings.
Come on — I know it is more the BritPop scene — but no one even mentions Pet Shop Boys? They dominated the late 80s in BritPop, stayed big in the 90s and still put out good stuff.
And come to think of it — no Duran Duran either?
Nothing else leaps to mind off the top of my head that wasn’t mentioned — I’d probably give the nod to the Beatles… not Queen (that’s Arena Rock, not pop!), Blondie and yeah, Taylor Swift. I still miss the old Taylor, but you can’t deny her impact.
‘I still miss the old Taylor, but you can’t deny her impact.’
To this day I wouldn’t recognize one single Taylor Swift song. Seriously, I don’t think I’ve ever heard a tune from her in its entirety or maybe at all for that matter. If I have I sure as hell didn’t know or care who was singing at the time.
Me neither. I aged out of what was “popular” by then.
Wife and I are supposed to see the Pet Shop Boys, only been postponed twice due to Covid.
I’m getting a little tired of waking up around 4AM every morning and spending a few hours fighting off panic attacks and giving myself a pep talk in order to step out the door and face the world. I hate the holidays. They’re when I feel the most alone/disconnected from my family and the world…
You all are still cool.
Sorry for whining.
Well…not waking up is kinda worse. Just sayin.
I dunno, I’m awfully fond of sleeping. It’s the only time I can get away from myself.
Heh, that’s odd.
He’s venting. I can’t shut my own mind off without a dozen beers per night.
This guy gets it.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/an-epidemic-of-the-vaccinated
lulz
e.e. cummings lives!
That’s when they pivot to “mask up!” Because that will “solve” everything. ?
I’m tired of masking up. I’ve had a runny nose for months. Not just an itch, it actually runs snot when I wear the shame muzzle. This will be over someday, right?
In Canada? Not bloody likely.
Did they reopen churches yet?
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2021/11/30/newsmax-and-oan-back-far-left-pick-for-fcc-commissioner-who-wants-to-censor-conservative-channels/
Retards. Everywhere.
Starts digging preparatory hole under the house.