The greatest debate of our time has nothing to do with guns, abortion, government overreach, foreigners taking our jobs, or ethical ramifications of delegating those questions to politicians. Which leaves us with more pressing matters.
Is a hot dog a sandwhich?
This is my review of Leinenkugel’s Toasted Bock:
While hot dogs, for better or worse are considered meat and served with a bun, they are not accepted in the sandwich aficionado world. The reason being the bun itself is a single unit and not a two piece. Which is problematic if anyone is old enough to remember Subway used to do the u-shaped cut into a single roll, and pulled out by the “sandwich artist”. This has absolutely nothing to do with anything, other than pointing out the extent of hair-splitting one can go into when discussing such matters. In the end eating enough hot dogs will probably kill you.
This was later derived into other debates involving food products with some sort of filling ensconced within some sort of carbohydrate. Whether or not a pop tart is a sandwich was postulated. Which means if a pop tart is a sandwich, surely a calzone, a pierogi, a runza, a beirock, a pasty, or even Beef Wellington must be a sandwich?
Not a pasty, because those come from Cornwall…not Sandwich.
Which then brings us to the nuclear option:
We’re treading softly in the nuclear kitchen:
NAILED IT
Leinenkugel’s makes several varieties that are worth seeking out, but they also were among the first to mass produce Shandy so naturally I believe somebody over there needs to be shot. This isn’t half bad. When they say “toasted” they mean it. The malts are roasted to a manner beyond the norm for this style but stops short of the burned coffee-like flavor found in many stouts. Overall it goes great with a sandwich, or however the hell you want to classify what I just made. Leinenkugel’s Toasted Bock: 3.2/5
A pop tart is a pastry.
this^
With peanut butter and jelly p-tarts are an open-faced sammich
*cough*bull*cough*shit*cough*
Maybe, but as a 50 year old man, I still enjoy PB&J.
Enough extra crunchy Jif to choke a horse with a thin layer of strawberry preserves and a glass of cold milk. Preferably on toast.
I’m trying to cut down on my carbs, so I just scoop a big ol’ spoonful of PB out of the jar and eat it all by itself.
We usually get creamy but bought a jar of crunchy by accident. It’s divine.
Nothing wrong with that. Eat whatever you want I am not your mom. I am going to make a batch of chili myself. I am trying to let it get above 30 before I light the grill though. Tis fucking cold this morning.
Chili? On top of sandwiches and beer you have to open that can of worms? Why dont you just toss a pizza while you are at it…
You put milk on toast??
This place never fails to disappoint.
I was thinking impress, how did I type disappoint?
Works either way.
Same, only I prefer blackberry preserves. Every cat its own rat, as my Grandpa used to say.
You misspelled ‘thick’ and ‘blackberry’.
You leave out bahn mi and bao? Racist!
Bao are dumplings and at the risk of being labeled a godless heretic—I have never eaten Bahn Mi.
You are missing out. Bahn Mi ate fantastic.
*are
When I lived in MD, there was a tiny little Vietnamese sandwich place up on 355 that was so good… I would go there on Sunday and buy ten Bahn Mi (note – this cost me like thirty bucks) and freeze them for lunch for the week. Gone now, of course. Here in NoVA, I haven’t yet found a local place with quite the same level of swank.
NAILED IT
Would. (in before times) That looks like brioche bread which is the only bread worthy of eating imho.
Its just regular white bread.
You’re dead to me.
I pay extra for Brioche when I make French toast
Your jib, sir. I like the cut of it.
“ New Study Reveals Eating a Hot Dog Shortens Your Life by 36 Minutes”
With statistics and quality science like this a COVID research grant is surely in their future.
So everyone I ever met is already dead? Fascinating…….
Not yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh_iPNX3i48
I don’t know if they shorten your life, but even as a kid I never liked them.
A real sausage on a bun is amazing, but hotdogs are like Spam, should only be eaten in a starvation situation.
Says the guy who lived in Okinawa.
If you’re talking about the Spam, my wife learned not to put Spam in my food.
If we visited the in laws or grandparents, I would eat it then.
Nathan’s would beg to differ you heathen!
This is the correct observation.
Hotdogs taste like ass.
Somehow I don’t think HM is a hot dog afficianado.
OT. Unreal
https://nypost.com/2021/12/10/squatters-busted-at-empty-ues-mansion-owned-by-chrome-hearts/
Wonder if the place still had utilities.
Fuck the auto-play video.
Sorry didn’t activate in my iPad.
+1 auto-play video blocker
Seems a little light on details. Like… where the hell are the owners? And why did they abandon the place?
And how has it not been auctioned for unpaid property taxes. Something is missing from this story.
Maybe they can make a heartwarming Christmas comedy about it.
I am so disappointed.
1. Declare the squatters owners by adverse possession.
2. Arrest the new owners for non-payment of taxes.
3. Seize the property as part of the non-payment case.
NYC has gone to shit since Trump left.
Squatter chick is a cutie.
Yes, but the rule about sticking it in crazy surely applies.
If the utilities are off, they all gotta be pretty rank. Just sayin’.?
” hotdogs are like Spam”
After WW2 we got something Spam like in a big OD can, probably about 3-4 lbs, and I’m guessing war surplus. I don’t remember the taste but it was well received at the senior Fourscores. I have Spam in the pantry, just in case. Fried up and make a Spamwich.
XY likes Spam, but only every so often and he won’t go through a whole can before it goes bad.
I agree to a point. Hot dogs come in two tiers: something I give to my dogs, or a Kosher dog. There really isn’t much in between.
Doesn’t even have to be kosher – natural casing, all beef hot dogs are the bomb.
You’re not wrong, but I require the concurrence of a Rabbi.
Will Rod Steiger do?
MS gets it.
I’ll do some good old all-beef hot dogs if served. However, given a choice, I’ll eat Earl Campbell’s red hot sausage or James’s red hot links.
On the rare occasion I buy hot dogs, I buy Hebrew National or GTFO. Those things are pretty damn good.
From their website.
That bent bread is the closest thing you can have to a hotdog bun.
A hotdog is its own thing. Even if it’s a sausage, it’s still a hotdog.
A poptart is, yes, a pastry. WTF, a sandwich? WTF? I do not like poptarts, but I did like their toaster scrambles before they started packing them with potatoes.
Is a gyro a taco or a sandwich? Neither. It’s a gyro. If I could get/make gyro meat and make a gyro like the restaurants do, I’d switch that off with Reubens. I just can’t decide which is better.
Is an Arby’s Beef’n’Cheddar a sandwich? That’s what they call them, even though they’re on a BUN. But they also call their locations “stores” and there’s not a single aisle you can go down to pick out what you want and take to the register.
I miss Arby’s, but driving 30 miles one way for a sandwoich isn’t happening,
If I could get/make gyro meat and make a gyro like the restaurants do
I am on a lifelong mission to figure that spice blend out. I have tried some recipes I have found but never hit it.
Same.
I’ve found Alton Brown’s version close.
https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/gyro-meat-with-tzatziki-sauce-recipe-2047710
I’ve made the Alton Brown gyro meat a few years ago. It was very, very good. A lot of work though. I think that was the one where you put a brick on the meat in the oven.
Yes. Take a skewer and half onion to make your stand and then start layering the meat. Then cook and then shave pieces you need.
Well, it’s not a burger just because it’s on a bun. Buns are especially good for things like chicken salad (my favorite!) because you don’t get soak-through the way you do on most kinds of sliced bread. (Of course, croissants are even better!)
While a peanut butter and jelly sandwich adds 33 minutes to your life.
I’m gonna live forever.
FUCK!
I’ve heard that every strip of bacon you eat takes a minute off your life. I call bullshit, because if that were true, I would have died in 1804.
Fry up two hot dogs. When hot slice them in half lengthwise. Place the four slices on a slice of bread, add condiments, and cover with another slice of bread.
Hot dog sandwich.
You monster.
Growing up, we didn’t fry anything up… we nuked it.
We were also too cheap for hot dog buns, so all of our hot dogs were on off-brand wonderbread.
Nailed it!
I like hot dogs – don’t eat them often but I like them. Prefer them cooked on a grill, a griddle works too. Served on a toasted bun.
Another hot dog controversy: Is putting ketchup on a hot dog blasphemy? Yes.
What the fuck is wrong with modern “product designers”?
My new phone (Moto E) is so perfectly smooth and slippery I can’t hold on to the damn thing. I’m going to get some friction tape and wrap it.
The buttons are conveniently located on the edge so you can inadvertently push them every time you pick the stupid thing up. Why do they think the goddam controls should be hidden?
Just buy one of the cheap TPU bumper cases for like $8.
Less slippery and modest drop protection.
Like most modern consumer electronics, it’s not designed for use. It’s designed to be a piece of jewelry that you brag to your friends about having.
Steve Jobs was a fucking monster. I pray that he’s spending eternity being spit-roasted by demons, for what he did to the field of industrial design.
I am on a lifelong mission to figure that spice blend out. I have tried some recipes I have found but never hit it.
The trick is to let the meat age in the open air, preferably at a temperature above 75.
It’s also a “meat blend” usually, isn’t it? With some lamb and some beef. That lamb flavor can’t be simulated with spice.
Steak-ums approximate the texture and thinness.
Yes, but I’ve done it with beef and lamb and still can’t get the spice combo right.
Dammit. This lot mix up their own spices. We buy a bottle of this every time we go but….I can’t seem to mix it up either myself. They refuse to tell me the recipe.
https://www.facebook.com/athenasfood/
Their Greek and Lebanese 7 spice mixture is incredible.
https://www.facebook.com/athenasfood/photos/a.408652032573260/3966725433432551/
Would it really be that hard to put a textured finish on the phone itself?
Thunder and rain yesterday afternoon. Snow over night.
It the little things that make Iowa worth living in.
Heh thunder and rain overnight, now it’s snowing, gotta love Michigan, where the high is the low and the low is the high,
The reason being the bun itself is a single unit and not a two piece.
Hmm… so this means that since I consider a hoagie a sandwich therefore I should also consider a hot dog a sandwich?
OK. Sure. I don’t eat hot dogs so I don’t really care. I do care a bit about hot dogs: A friend of mine owns a hot dog/burger joint. As long as people are buying from him and he’s making money, that’s good enough for me.
This isn’t half bad. When they say “toasted” they mean it. The malts are roasted to a manner beyond the norm for this style but stops short of the burned coffee-like flavor found in many stouts. Overall it goes great with a sandwich, or however the hell you want to classify what I just made.
Sounds tasty.
A hoagie, is that like a grinder?
I associate grinders, either rightly or wrongly, with Connecticut, which is like Massachusetts only dirtier and with less culture.
Hoagies on the other hand are divine, especially those from WaWa.
So a hoagie is more like a hero then?
So are Grinders and Subs and Heros and Hoagie all the same thing? if not why not? I never knew the difference.
They’re regional terms for the same thing.
That’s what I assumed also.
I assumed the same thing, but if you need the correct answer, ask the Glibs, you’ll get several
I thought grinders had to have taco meat on them. Or is that just a taco grinder?
Hoagies are a philthadelphia thing. Nothing heroic there.
I think that would make this game odd.
The Taste Atlas agrees with you.
Of course not. all split roll sandwiches (including butter and brie on a baguette) are eaten with the cut held horizontally. Hot dogs are held with the cut held vertically since the bun needs to contain not only the nominal meat, but also the semiliquid toppings.
When I eat a hoagie, the cut is vertical.
To add on: The reason is the ones I get are usually overstuffed (like WaWa hoagies with extra meat and cheese). It’s easier to keep everything together.
So you eat a cold-cut hot dog?
Not mentioned, but relevant, is the Manwich. Looks like a sandwich but is actually a meal.
And what about this… After a 5 day backpacking trip, a friend ordered a BLT and a double cheeseburger. He then proceeded to put the intact BLT *inside* the double cheeseburger. I call that epic. But is it a sandwich?
Sounds like the real manwich to me.
A sandwich within a sandwich, the gateway to all understanding.
It’s sandwiches all the way down.
Your friend is a true American hero.
^ this is the only time in the history of this site that Hype has been right.
Strong enough for a Manwich, but made for a woman?
I had a grilled cheese sammich, with the bread being 2 egg-in-the-holes/one-eyed-jacks, for breakfast. Is it still a sammich if it requires cutlery?
The best made sandwiches require cutlery. The rest are lame run of the mill losers.
Yes
So you had a bacon-double cheese burger.
MMMM.
Drum roll please, Yusef got a job running an automated car wash, as in all the machinery, inventory, a bit of POS, and be the face of the shop. Amytrpityline is the bomb!
Excellent!
Huzzah for gainful employment!
That’s great, take care of that back.
that’s the cool part, no standing, no heavy lifting, mostly maintenance and water testing etc.
Yay for Yusef!
Heh I just finished watching a King of the Hill where his neighbor buys a carwash and runs it into the ground.
Don’t do what that guy did.
Heh. “Turn-key business”
Nice!
Congrats! I assume its a very Jetson-ish thing, with you merely having to push a button now and then.
Congratulations
Congrats, brother!
It’s good to stay busy and, despite everyone here trying to pretend they are the biggest misanthrope, interaction with other people is a good thing.
Have fun and keep those poor, salt-encrusted cars shiny and intact!!
OT-
Got my discharge orders and am waiting for my wife.
I appreciate all the support and seriously am grateful for this little corner of the internet. I haven’t met many of you in person, but the ones I have met have been outstanding.
Going home now to tend my exploded balls.
Cup away!! Get better!
It’s good you’re going home. Get well soon!
Yay for ron!
Good deal. Best wishes for a speedy and uneventful recovery.
Take good care of yourself.
I missed something, but I hope your balls get well soon!
Get better Ron!
Sometimes people’s balls explode. Natural causes.
Boy that sounds unpleasant. Hopes for a speedy recovery.
Got my discharge orders
Congratulations! There are several outfits that will hire recently separated Vets, take full advantage!
Ice should help.
Especially if it’s in a cocktail.
Sounds like a lot of people are trying for their unrestricted CCL.
This whole thing is about carbs and I feel othered.
Plus you heathens are wrong about sausage. The correct answer is kielbasa.
My Ossie colleagues claim that currywurst is the best sausage-on-a-bun.
Currywurst is excellent.
I enjoyed a lot of it while in Germany and Austria.
I have to try that now. Local Bratwurst is good-sounds like I just need to make curry ketchup.
Never had kielbasa,my mom would make what she called “spaghetti and kielbasa”, but it was just cut up hot dogs.
Before you ask, yes it was disgusting and borderline child abuse.
I just can’t get that image and flavor out of my head when it comes to kielbasa.
Hey! I happen to get nostalgic for pasta and hot dogs…
Sure, it’s not that great, and, okay, it just reminds me of my childhood.
I knew a woman from Poland who would make home-made kielbasa of different flavors. Divine!
Italian sausage!
My wife makes spaghetti with a mix of Italian and hot sausage that’s phenomenal.
I use it as part of my chili meat!
This is objectively true.
Which recipe? over the past month I’ve had a half dozen different sausages all claiming to be kielbasa, no two of which tasted like the others.
And did Hillshire farms change their recipe it doesn’t taste like it used to.
Hillshire farms kielbasa is just meh to me. I am however a big fan or their take on cajun sausage. I know it is probably not the Louisiana swamp made thing but I like it. It is going in my chili today and goes in all my sort of gumbo style things.
It used to be better.
The only “kielbasa” I remember eating, and recently, was Hillshire Farms. It was awful. I’d like to try the real thing.
Don’t forget “and intuitively obvious by the light of nature.”
So a hoagie is more like a hero then?
“To a New Yorker like you, a Hero is some kind of a weird sandwich.”
Going home now to tend my exploded balls.
Excellent. Are you going to stop on the way home and buy some bags of frozen peas?
My wife got them for me.
Aww.
Twoo wuv.
my mom would make what she called “spaghetti and kielbasa”, but it was just cut up hot dogs.
Uh-oh, Spaghetti-os!
Ugh… both equally ?
*sigh*
On one hand I’m glad I resumed my walking. On the other hand I’m annoyed at how the lapse negatively impacted me.
It’s depressing how quickly it happens.
Just keep going, try not to stop for too long, it’s the only reason I’m attempting a part time job,
endeavour to perservere,
yusef gets it. I took a menial job as a clerk/cashier/pizza maker to get off disability. Problem being that the kids used me as unpaid daycare so they could work. I worked my schedule to 2nd shift and limited days to accommodate them. its working out. And I’m happier earning a paycheck than taking a gov provided one
https://www.nj.com/news/2021/12/geminids-meteor-shower-2021-to-produce-shooting-stars-in-december.html
???
I just heard a Poppy tune on my spotify list, I liked it, Then noticed it was xer, fascinating,
Time for the Army-Navy football game! Go Navy! Beat Army!
::checks Navy’s record for this season. Refrains from getting hopes up:: ?
…aaaand it took Army all of two minutes to get a TD. ?
I can’t take sides in that contest. I have relatives from both the army and navy. And air force, but they’re not playing. Thankfully, no marines. 😛
We share Annapolis with the squids.
Oh, you mean your relatives :/
Go Army! Beat Navy!
Worked with too many Annapolis grads?
I’m with you, Dbleagle!!
Go Army!
MLS final is on. NYC vs. Portland *spits*.
Navy takes the lead! ? No idea if it will last, but at least for one brief, shining moment…
NYC is winning ?
But it’s very nervy. 4 minutes + stoppage time to go.
These ladies will make you a tri-sammich.
https://archive.md/3PXJp
No need to go past 2.
Thanks, Q!
I could murder a stromboli right now.
Even if it isn’t a sandwich.
Which it clearly is.
Unmentioned in this otherwise-worthy effort is the Donair (a variant of doner or donner kebab), which looks similar to a Greek gyro but is quite differently flavoured; I see gyros rarely in my neck of the woods, but Donair shops are everywhere:
Original East Coast Donair recipe
I could eat these things until I explode (shwarmas, too!).
Would.
Thats a taco.
I’ve had tacos in Mexico, Texas, California, Washington state, Idaho, B.C., Alberta and Saskatchewan.
Trust me, the Donair tastes nothing like any taco.
But have you had tacos in LA?
BEAM’s sipped Chablis on the isle of Capri
I’ve never been to you, either.
Letterkenny!
To be ffaaaaiirrrr I hope that made it to the comments on KK’s youtube post somewhere.
I haven’t even had a good time in LA, much less tacos.
Been there.
I’m having a hard time understanding the woman’s reaction; my spousal unit would be all over the contents of that shopping cart.
That looks like a well rounded meal to me.
Us lads are on are own tonight. We’ll see what my son wants to do for dinner after he gets off work. Probably just scrounge since he no doubt filled up on delicious discount Arby’s offerings.
Oh well, still beats going to a glans viewing party (Nutcracker) with the wife and daughter.
How’d you get out of that?
It’s simple. Narrowed gaze, followed by, “No.”
Actually, it’s ‘still’ followed by. It’s been a thing for about 6 years. Mother/daughter thing is fine with me.
Heh.
?
Nice. Maybe send him a ladder for Christmas.
Ouch!
Life is good, got home about 3 hours ago.
Not nearly as stir crazy now, but I’m not supposed to go to work next week.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/11/entertainment/baby-adopted-subway-book/index.html
Amazingly enough it simply pushes forward a nice story. Doesn’t play up race or homosexuality or gay marriage, abortion access, etc. WTF CNN?
SINK NAVY
Sorry, late to the party. Doing socializing stuff.
Portland sunk. ?
Aw dammit, hard-fought loss. Congrats to the squids, this year.
Ouch!