One Little Town, Two Big Christmas Songs

by | Dec 29, 2021 | Florida, History, Music, Travel | 208 comments

Ocala, Florida wasn’t known for much back in the 1950s.  No real natural resources if you don’t count the National Forest east of town, and while Silver Springs drew in some intrepid tourists back around the turn of the century, the attraction and its glass-bottomed boats weren’t exactly making the town a vacation destination.

Much of that would change with one horse.

 

The horse is Needles, so named because he was a sickly colt who was always getting injections from the vet. The rider is Elmo Shropshire. More on him later.  

After Needles won the Kentucky Derby and the Belmont in 1956, other breeders flocked to Florida. It is said  that Needles sold more land than all the real estate agents in Marion County. Today, there are over a thousand horse farms in the area.  Ocala is becoming to horse racing what Monterey, California is to golf.  Florida-bred major stakes winners include Foolish Pleasure, Afleet Alex, Real Quiet, and the Q-worthy Lisa’s Booby Trap.

Elmo’s father was the manager of the first race horse farm in Ocala. Elmo graduated from Ocala High School, the University of Florida, and (since UF had no vet school at the time) Auburn Veterinary School, becoming a race track vet. He moved to California, where he had a thriving practice, dabbled with his guitar and had an infectious grin. In 1979 he recorded this loved / hated modern standard on a lark:

 

 

Doctor Elmo has recorded 12 albums, 17 videos and is a champion marathoner at the age of 87. 

Right about the time that Dr. Shropshire was starting his practice, a group of high schoolers from Ocala were working towards the dream of most every teen boy:  becoming rock stars.  They were a trio called the Posmen, and they played a few local gigs before fracturing, as most high school bands do.  While recruiting new members, the drummer noticed that their new Vox amp was called “The Royal Guardsman” and suggested that The Royal Guardsmen would be a cool name for the band, cashing in on the British Invasion and all.

 

 

They were pretty good, at least good enough to score a record deal.  Then they recorded the song that would consign them to novelty hell forever:

 

 

They persevered for some time, holding out against pressure from their label to record more novelty songs, and even touring in the “Summer Shower of Stars” tour with Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs and Tommy James and the Shondells.  They called it quits for the most part in 1979, electing to receive steady paychecks and starting families over life on the road and getting jobbed by their record company.  

The surviving members still play the occasional gig, but are mostly content with their small place in music history.

 

 

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Shpip

Shpip

Florida Man, amphibian enthusiast with a reptile dysfunction. Founder and CEO of Vlad Țepeș Tree Service.

208 Comments

  1. Yusef drives a Kia

    Interesting, Thanks Shpip, a nice bit of history!

  2. rhywun

    One widely-known novelty song is probably considered “wildly successful” in the business. I’ve known bands – good bands – that flopped and no one will remember them at all.

    Cool stories – thanks

    • MikeS

      One widely-known novelty song is probably considered “wildly successful” in the business.

      ^ this ^

      Whenever I hear someone make fun of a band for being a one-hit-wonder I ask them, “And how many hits have you had?”

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Or maybe they were much bigger in their home country; see Dexy’s, Madness… Ohhh, so many great Madness songs.

  3. The Hyperbole

    I don’t recall the Snoopy song being X-mas related, maybe you meant 2 big novelty songs? My home town’s claim to musical fame is the American version of ‘Little Bit ‘o Soul”

  4. Fourscore

    Fun to read, Shpip. Songs from my era, I remember them well.

    Ocala has a lot more going for it than the local area. Open pit iron mines that are now some of the deepest lakes in MN isn’t much of an attraction. The mining era came and went, lasted about 50-60 years. No musicians, no race horses but nice and quiet, especially now in the winter.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      It’s beautiful up here in the Winter, I love it,
      Cheers! 4X

    • dbleagle

      That quiet environment sounds nice.

    • pistoffnick

      No musicians…

      Well there was that curly haired fella (born in Dooloot) from Hibbing, name of Robert Zimmerman. He later changed his name to Bob Dylan.

      …and now you know (dramatic pause) the rest of the story…

      • MikeS

        You got that big fancy race track not too far from you. Nothing quiet about that place.

      • Fourscore

        30 miles, not much overflow from there. Only noise here is the locals shooting everyday that it isn’t below zero. We had about 14 inches of snow Sunday-Monday, another 5-6 yesterday. -13 this morning but no wind.

      • MikeS

        You got us beat. My completely scientific wild ass guess is about 12-14 total from the two storms. -22F this morning. The next 3 days don’t look any warmer. Supposed to be pushing -30 on Friday night.

      • Fourscore

        Forecast is -24-25 for Fri and Sat nights, Coolo-boolo as my kids used to say

      • dbleagle

        It’s calling for 72 and 77 with occasional T-storms with the Trades dropping for the next 10 days.

  5. kinnath

    No famous singers from around here. Just Frodo Baggins.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      Sir, if I must buy store bought honey for mead, what should I look for?

      • UnCivilServant

        I think that you would go bankrupt paying retail for mead honey.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I need like 3 lb.

      • kinnath

        Look for anything “raw and unfiltered”. I buy a lot of honey at Sam’s Club. Usually in the range of $3 to $4 per lb. Quite reasonable.

        Best to buy in bulk from a local supplier.

        Here is the Michigan Map from The Honey Locator.

        I just paid $3 per pound for bulk honey from a farm in Iowa. You can get close to that price at the big-box club-stores.

      • kinnath

        And I will send you some mead. I have been distracted the last several weeks.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        My addy is in the forums, sent your way I think, thanks,

      • kinnath

        I saw it.

      • kinnath

        The Nature Nate’s Raw Unfiltered Honey in this class was purchased at Sam’s Club. Target and Walmart both carry it. But it is cheaper at Sam’s.

    • Zwak, All dressed up in his ridiculous seersucker suit

      No famous singers for us neither. Just Partyboy from Jackass.

  6. Scruffy Nerfherder

    I thought Ocala was the town with the KKK mayor.

    • rhywun

      Well, it is Florida.

  7. DEG

    I like this history of Ocala.

    Last October I drove through Ocala to go to The Villages. I was visiting some friends who recently moved to the villages, and some of us would go down to Orlando for the Tom Woods 2000th show party.

    I noticed all the horse farms while driving through Ocala. It seemed an odd place for them, but now things make sense.

    A variation on “Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer”.

    • creech

      A friend spent a week in the Villages two years ago, visiting friends who moved there, and considering a move himself. He says GILFs were thick on the ground and any guy who could dance could go home with about anyone he wanted. Due to some medical problems, he couldn’t partake, but he says the place is like a college campus in the 70s. I’m surprised Zardoz hasn’t cleansed the place yet.

      • dbleagle

        Kathleen Madigan has a bit in one of her shows about visiting her parents in The Villages. The place seems like Del Webb’s Sun City on steroids.

      • Gustave Lytton

        Whoa. There’s a name I haven’t heard in a while.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I like her. Hear her on Sirius sometimes.

      • DEG

        My one friend was joking about getting me with an older woman and moving in with her so that he could have more friends in the area.

      • Shpip

        For years, there was an urban legend circulating that The Villages was the STD capital of Florida, if not the US. Something about all those randy widows passing around the clap willy-nilly. Utter rubbish, of course, but you still hear it brought up from time to time.

      • Chafed

        Of course it’s rubbish. Everyone knows you can’t get herpes twice.

      • R C Dean

        “he says the place is like a college campus in the 70s”

        Well, most of the residents probably went to college in the ‘70s, so . . .

    • Shpip

      Ocala is also home to Jumbolair. It’s where John Travolta used to park his personal 707 (painted in 1950s QANTAS livery) before he donated it to an Aussie air museum.

      I have no idea why the area became a Mecca for thoroughbred breeders, but it is. One of those happy accidents of history, I reckon.

  8. MikeS

    Fun history lesson, Shpip. Thanks!

  9. Yusef drives a Kia

    My furnace is down, I have it jerry riiged to get some heat, but I’m worried about the water lines. I have new circuit board that should be here tomorrrow, but until then, yikes!

    • MikeS

      Did you check the thermostat?

    • MikeS

      But seriously…aren’t you renting?

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        And even more seriously: Aren’t you an HVAC tech?

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Yes i am, I diagnosed the system and ordered the part, easy to fix, but stil 200$ and i have to hang on til tomorrow,better than a service call.

    • pistoffnick

      Heat tape?

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Yes, under the house, but if it drops below 32 up here, yikes!
        @MikeS no, I’m buying my little ship,

      • MikeS

        Well good for you, but damn, that sucks!

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        Thanks man, but anything in this place that breaks, I can fix it, it’s a very small machine compared to the usual,

    • Q Continuum

      Won’t save the water line, but cuddling naked with a busty beauty conserves body heat.

      • Yusef drives a Kia

        I wish, jeez

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        ?

      • rhywun

        1 track mind, that 1

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        And progeny; QED.

  10. MikeS

    If I were raising kids in Louden County, Virginia, I wouldn’t.

    Va. teachers push back on equity proposal to abolish some grades, late homework penalties

    The preliminary proposal calls for

    No late penalties for homework – because the proposal says it leads to inaccurate grades as it reflects on student’s behavior and not student achievement
    No extra credit – as the proposal says extra credit leads to biased grades and penalizes students with fewer resources
    Unlimited redoes and retakes on assignment
    No grading for homework as the proposal says mistakes are vital to learning and students are less likely to take risks when they fear they will be graded down for making a mistakes

    • rhywun

      The goal of the proposal is to implement more equitable grading practices.

      Oh, OK then. ?

      Y’know… my mom was pretty hands-off – I was basically wind me up and watch me go – but if she saw this shit I know she would have blown her top.

      • rhywun

        LOL that’s the one I was waiting for

      • MikeS

        The intro to that song reminded me of this.

      • pistoffnick

        MikeS = TedS

        Have you ever seen them at the same time, same place?

      • MikeS

        You aren’t the first person to throw out that crazy idea!

        /nervous’ laugh

      • pistoffnick

        *liked the extraneous apostrophe*

      • rhywun

        ?

        My mom was a beauty… think Candice Bergen.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Wow! ?‍♀️

      • rhywun

        Too bad her four sons got more of deadbeat dad’s genes.

      • Fourscore

        My mom too but she wanted to see some results. Graded papers and report cards were important. It was one of the few ways us kids could compete on a level playing field.

      • rhywun

        The main thing she did was make sure I got into good schools, but yeah I got an earful when I messed up a few times. Mostly she didn’t have to worry about that.

  11. Toxteth O'Grady

    ✋ high five!

    Public schools did a decent job with me once, I swear to dear old Mr. Dewey. We really did have some strict but fair teachers like Mr. Hand. (I forget what he was like in the novel cuz it’s OOP and unaffordable; something about a Hawaii 5-0 obsession?)

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Dammit, meant as reply to Hroowin (sp?).

      Parochial or private school might have done a better job. Private school bears the risk of falling in with snobs, of course. Don’t board your kids (not that anyone here would).

      • rhywun

        I was lucky to be in a time and a place where I could get into a really good public school, one with lots of industry money poured into it too. Back when industry was still a thing in my home town.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Gifted classes? ??

      • rhywun

        Yah starting in 4th grade. So yeah, multiple really good public schools.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        “The air from Rochester when you open it”, photography teacher used to say.

      • rhywun

        I had to take a class called “Optics” in I think it was 9th grade. The class had a built-in darkroom and shit.

      • MikeS

        An “Optics” class today would likely be a far different endeavor.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Magnet school. I forget what training we were supposed to attract, cuz I is old.

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        When I was in Third Grade I would leave class during Math Time to attend a Fourth Grade math class. Unheard of in 1961-1962 and was not repeated in Fourth Grade.

  12. db

    Anyone still on the Zoom?

      • db

        No one let me in for about 10 minutes. Trying again.

      • db

        Still no one there I guess

      • rhywun

        Yeah I gave up.

      • slumbrew

        Just tried, not just you.

        Or neither of us are ones of the cool kids.

        *runs off sobbing*

      • rhywun

        That is the same link I tried before and nobody was answering. ?

      • db

        I bet Sloper is host and blocking us out

      • rhywun

        Exclusive club, sheesh

      • pistoffnick

        I bet Sloper is host and blocking us out

        Shut the fuck up, Sloper!

    • rhywun

      I was in a rare mood so I tried. Nobody there I guess.

  13. UnCivilServant

    Well, I’ve gone and milled off the irregular edge made by the hacksaw when I chopped the work piece off the larger bar of angle aluminum. The two cut faces should be parallel given how I cut it, but it’s definately within the margin of error for my purposes.

    I’ve learned a lot, just by having to go through the process. (And from advice from MikeS.)

    • db

      The main lesson you should have learned is that hacksaws are for chumps–now you need to buy a real bandsaw.

      • UnCivilServant

        Why? I’m not cutting up animal carcasses.

      • pistoffnick

        I’m not cutting up animal carcasses.

        Not Yet!

      • MikeS

        Dude!

      • pistoffnick

        Dude!

      • pistoffnick

        Dude, Where’s my truck?

      • MikeS

        That fucking movie is 90 minutes of my life I can never get back.

        An den?!

      • slumbrew

        Sweet!

      • rhywun

        That fucking movie is 90 minutes of my life I can never get back.

        I saw a large chunk of it for the first time a couple months ago.

        Hoo boy.

      • Not Adahn

        I thought it was surprisingly not-terrible. Like whatever that movie was where the football players go to cheerleading camp to get laid and they chew on anal beads.

      • MikeS

        Not yet!

      • slumbrew

        animal carcasses. Right, definitely being used for animals. Not any sort of other carcasses.

      • Nephilium

        I didn’t know there were vegetal carcasses.

      • slumbrew

        Pedantry will get you all the chicks.

        Is there a distinction re: carcasses like there is for necropsy vs autopsy?

      • Nephilium

        Not that I’m aware of, figured that would be a better joke then the humans are animals joke.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Pedantry yields pedantic chicks? “Baby, is that really what you want?” ?‍♀️

      • slumbrew

        This is when we need HM. Maybe SugarFree. One of them would know for sure if there was a distinction.

      • Gender Traitor

        Spud and the Count finally had it out?? ?

      • slumbrew

        There can be only one.

  14. Brochettaward

    I was bleeding today from a private area. I feared a miscarriage. But all seems well now. The First gestates.

    • slumbrew

      Your gums aren’t really your privates, despite what they tell you downtown

      • Brochettaward

        Are you trying to star a brouhaha with me, slumbrew? You don’t want a brouhaha with The Bro.

      • slumbrew

        I’m more of a donnybrook fella

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Fisticuffs at dawn!

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        I’ll be your second, slum.

      • slumbrew

        Jolly good!

        Bro: Full plate mail and cleavers, on a raft mid-river

      • Brochettaward

        I don’t wake up before noon, and then I eat guys like slumbrew for breakfast.

      • MikeS

        You eat slumbrews for breakfast?!

      • slumbrew

        Shooter!

        *makes finger guns*

      • MikeS

        Pitter patter, let’s get at ‘er!

      • Chafed

        Lol

    • MikeS

      hawt

  15. MikeS

    I have a new game. CNN or CCP?

    “Anybody who attempts to make use of media work as a tool to pursue their political purpose…are the evil elements that damage press freedom. Professional media workers should recognize that these are the bad apples who are abusing their position simply by wearing a false coat of media worker.”

    • rhywun

      The sentiment could be either, but the wonky English says CCP.

      • MikeS

        Yeah. You’re right about the phrasing giving it away. It was from one of the ChiComs in charge of shutting down a pro-democracy newspaper in Hong Kong. I thought it sounded very similar to Twitter and Facebook and their MSM cheerleaders. Maybe the game should be Silicon Valley or Silk Road?

      • rhywun

        I know Pooh is cracking down on the media – I mean, it was never free but it’s like more totalitariany there than it has been in decades thanks to that asshole.

  16. Dr. Fronkensteen

    Porch pirates stole some late coming Christmas presents for my son today. I am livid.

    • Brochettaward

      Call the police. I’m sure they’ll get right on finding the culprits!

  17. rhywun

    PS. lad on the horse

    *woof*

    • MikeS

      Down, boy.

    • slumbrew

      He grew up to be a monster, though.

    • Chafed

      That’s how you go out on a high note.

  18. hayeksplosives

    That’s a great little tale. I’ve never heard the Red Baron song before!

    The only musician I can think of from my hometown is Hoyt Axton, who drily referred to the town as “The Cultural Capital of the Universe.”

    Rance Howard and Ron Howard hailed from there too, as did Jeane Kirkpatrick.

    Jeane was a very smart broad, and wise (the two don’t always go together). I was fortunate enough to meet her at some young leaders thingy; she’s probably the first female role model I had in the realm of politics and business. Very odd path she made in her political awakening from socialist to democrat to republican, and a staunch anti-commie.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeane_Kirkpatrick

    But, yeah only Hoyt for music that I’m aware of.

    • Raven Nation

      Dictatorships and Double Standards

      • R C Dean

        Is that the sequel to Pride and Prejudice?

    • Not Adahn

      Well we have this fun-sized songstress. BA did always punch above its weight in the arts tho.

  19. Ownbestenemy

    I have no love for Ghislaine Maxwell but the judge hurrying along the jury seems suspect.

    • Chafed

      Same. I doubt it’s enough, on its own, to overturn her conviction on appeal. But it is troubling.

  20. robodruid

    Good Morning.
    Is this thing on?

    Did anybody like “Don’t look up”?

    I hated it, but was just wondering if it was just me.

    • Sean

      *waves*

      • robodruid

        Morning, *waves back*

    • Gender Traitor

      Not familiar with it. I’d look it up on IMDb, but it says not to. ?

      Good morning, ‘bodru, Sean, Stinky, & homey!

    • Stinky Wizzleteats

      They left out carry a gun. Why do they always leave out carry a gun?

  21. Tres Cool

    suh’ fam
    whats goody

    • Gender Traitor

      So, homey – greatest famous musical acts to come out of Dayton (in no particular order):

      Ohio Players
      The Breeders
      Guided by Voices

      Have I forgotten anyone? Any solo artists (not associated with these bands?)

      • Tres Cool

        uhhhhh…..Roger Troutman and Zapp

      • Gender Traitor

        True – a goodly number of R&B/Funk acts out of that era. Didn’t know how many of them achieved fame at anywhere near the level of the Players.

      • Tres Cool

        Duh
        Tommy James

    • Gender Traitor

      I think I’d rather see Scotland invade and take over England. Or even the Irish. If either country has any stones left, that is.

      • UnCivilServant

        No. They bled all of their bold blood away. Those that remain are even more servile than the english.

      • Gender Traitor

        ::slowly, sadly whistles “Scotland the Brave”::

      • Festus

        Breaks my cold Scottish heart.

      • Stinky Wizzleteats

        England is actually the right wing part of the UK now so I’m going to have to root for them. The Scots and the Welsh particularly, not sure about the Northern Irish, have gone straight into the leftist toilet.

      • rhywun

        Yeah, no. Scotland is swirling down the drain faster than England.

      • robodruid

        Is anyone not swirling?

      • UnCivilServant

        Detroit. They’ve already gone down the drain and are in the sewer.

      • robodruid

        I’m looking for a better place.

      • Fourscore

        Lotsa room for Glibs here, just don’t get stuck in the Twin Cities.

    • Gender Traitor

      Like when the Explorer owned by the Dayton Metropolitan Housing Authority rear-ended my ’91 Festiva. MY insurance had to pay for the repair.

      I’m still honked off about that.

      • Festus

        The “Explorer” rear-ended you? Sounds like recent news coverage about a certain Xmas parade mishap or something from a nsfw reddit thread. In any case, sucks to be you!

      • Tres Cool

        When I 1st met Jugsy she was employed by DMHA. And I constantly accuse her of driving like she thinks the world is Mario Carts…

      • Fourscore

        Be happy that a gun didn’t discharge

  22. Festus

    Mornin’ Glibs! Finally got the my paystub from the check that I was shorted on. All of the OT was missing. Forwarded it to my supervisor with the message, “I want my two dollahs!”

    • UnCivilServant

      Were you actually shorted only two dollars, or is that a reference I don’t get?

      • Tres Cool

        80s movie “Better Off Dead”

      • Festus

        You are so unrefined! Hier – https://youtu.be/FsxJfcFVnpo It’s a classic, dumb 80’s movie that gets constantly referenced on these boards.

      • l0b0t

        Damn shame… throwing away a perfectly good white boy.

      • Tres Cool

        “Gee Im real sorry your Mom blew up, Rikki”

      • UnCivilServant

        You people are strange.

      • Fourscore

        I hadn’t noticed…

      • Not Adahn

        People are strange, when you’re a stranger.

      • Festus

        To UCS – they actually shorted me twenty hours of overtime which is a chunk of change to me, at least. Wasn’t really their fault, our payroll server got hacked along with thousands of others.

      • UnCivilServant

        Twenty hours at time and a half or more is a chunk of change to anyone. That’s practically a full work week’s worth of cash.

        Hope things get sorted out promptly.

  23. Gender Traitor

    Oh, swell. TWO accidents on the interstate, right around the point where I usually get on. Better get my butt in gear and try to get out the door early. ?

    • Festus

      Last night on the way in we had a heavy fall of powder snow and wind. White-outs on the highways give you that special feeling that slowing down just enough to keep from piling into the driver ahead will inevitably lead to some other person plowing into you from behind. It’s like automotive centipede.

  24. Festus

    Question for all of you bar-bell slingers out there, isn’t it considered good form to take some respite time when you are really hitting the weights? I’m growing like crazy but sore as hell and feeling really stiff and top heavy. Is there some sort of supplement that would help with this? Honest question.

    • UnCivilServant

      Add in leg days to counteract the top-heaviness?

      But I’m no expert, I have trouble just sticking to a regime.

      • Festus

        It’s not working out, perse it’s just work. I was hoping for some advice about dietary aids and such what-not.

    • Fourscore

      Son, I was having the same problem so I gave my weights away and the problem disappeared. A spoonful of local honey helps. Doesn’t make the soreness go away but puts a smile on your face.

  25. Tres Cool

    So anyone starting a pool on how long until Gislaine is found hanging in her cell?
    Or perhaps something more classy like falling down prison steps and breaking her neck?
    Or the ever tragic “stabbed to death by someone that was doing life anyhow”.

    • Not Adahn

      Why would anyone care about her? She’s being effectively embargoed.

      • Not Adahn

        But yeah “child predator doesn’t survive in lockup” is a cliche for a reason.

      • Festus

        I’ll put a 20 on “found unresponsive, cause unknown at this time”.

      • Tres Cool

        I suspect she has enough first-hand knowledge of “events” and has enough names that she could still be a liability to certain people in certain circles.
        But that’s just speculation on my part. The fact that none of “those people” have come to her rescue bolsters your statement for sure.

    • Festus

      You can’t fool me! This is just like cow-flop Bingo.