GlibFit 4.0 – Stress Eating

by | Apr 10, 2022 | GlibFit | 315 comments

The middle of this week I got home from work close to 9 PM, ate dinner, and demolished about half a bag of cookies. That’s not like me. I ate lunch. I was hungry, but not overly hungry, when I was finally able to each dinner. I love sweets but I don’t eat them often and usually have a modest amount when I do. So, what was going on? Oh yeah, stress eating.

 

Stress, the hormones it unleashes, and the effects of high-fat, sugary “comfort foods” push people toward overeating. In the short term, stress can shut down appetite. The nervous system sends messages to the adrenal glands to pump out the hormone epinephrine (also known as adrenaline). Epinephrine helps trigger the body’s fight-or-flight response, a revved-up physiological state that temporarily puts eating on hold.

 

But if stress persists, it’s a different story. The adrenal glands release another hormone called cortisol, and cortisol increases appetite and may also ramp up motivation in general, including the motivation to eat. Once a stressful episode is over, cortisol levels should fall, but if the stress doesn’t go away (or if a person’s stress response gets stuck in the “on” position) cortisol may stay elevated.

 

Stress also seems to affect food preferences. Numerous studies have shown that physical or emotional distress increases the intake of food high in fat, sugar, or both. High cortisol levels, in combination with high insulin levels, may be responsible. Other research suggests that ghrelin, a “hunger hormone,” may have a role.

 

Ghrelin has direct effects on hunger and therefore the ability for people to lose weight and maintain weight loss. As ghrelin levels rise so do hunger and cravings for mostly carbohydrates. When you start to think about food or catch yourself grabbing a food you know you really don’t need, it is likely the result of ghrelin.

 

Once ingested, fat- and sugar-filled foods seem to have a feedback effect that dampens stress related responses and emotions. These foods really are “comfort” foods in that they seem to counteract stress — and this may contribute to people’s stress-induced craving for those foods. Thank goodness. I thought I was going all Homer Simpson. It turns out I was just using food as medicine.

 

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Last week’s off-topic rant was well received (at least by Tonio) so here is another dose. I loathe the CDC.

 

You know what we haven’t heard in far too long? This week’s music.

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315 Comments

  1. Mojeaux

    Can confirm. “Food is the most abused anxiety drug. Exercise is the most underutilized antidepressant.”

    • UnCivilServant

      I have never seen any antidepressant effects from exercise. Usually I have to berate myself into finishing, or even get started.

      • Toxteth O'Grady

        Walking hills or canyons for me, but only because of the views.

      • Mojeaux

        I hate exercising, but I love having exercised.

    • Fourscore

      7 grams of protein but how many cals?

      A glass of milk is 7-8 grams of protein too.

      • Sean

        160

  2. DEG

    I stress eat a bit too much, but have been better about it as I’ve gotten older.

    Last week I deadlifted 185 lbs for three sets of six reps. I haven’t done that since before the disc herniation acted up three years ago.

    • R C Dean

      Sweet. That’s pretty much where I am with deadlifts. I could lift moar, but my form starts to fall apart at that weight/reps.

  3. Gender Traitor

    At work on slow days, I seem most likely to succumb to the snacks from the nearby break room because I’m bored. Might that be considered a sort of stress?

    • Ted S.

      We only have vending machines in the break room, so no snacking for this cheapskate.

    • Chafed

      My guess is boredom or plain old temptation. But it’s only a guess.

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Sweet, salty, or both?

      I try to remind myself that I know what Snickers and Reese’s taste like, and they aren’t great. I have a weakness for new things though.

      • Fourscore

        I mostly avoid candy (mostly). Lately I’ve been enjoying an ice cream bar after lunch (145 cals) but that’s just bonus calories that I don’t need.

      • Gender Traitor

        Reese’s aren’t great??? Are you running a fever or something??

        More seriously, in the morning, if I’m out of low-carb Greek yogurt or it isn’t enough to hold me until the Atkins shake is properly half-frozen, I’m tempted by the packets of instant oatmeal (sweetened & flavored, of course.) In the afternoon, this is my weakness.

      • Sean

        *I eat the keto friendly ratio stuff…not the “super” protein versions.

    • trshmnstr the terrible

      I boredom eat. Big time. The best way I’ve found to handle it is to accept that it’s going to happen and have fresh fruits and vegetables on hand to eat rather than junk carbs and refined sugar.

      For me, staying proactive also helps. Eating an apple at 10am means I dont mindlessly crave food again until lunch. Eating another apple at 2pm gets me to dinner.

      • westernsloper

        Eat more meat. You won’t be hungry.

      • Tres Cool

        “Eat more meat. You won’t be hungry.” -Winston’s Mom

  4. Fourscore

    Eating is easy (and fun)
    Exercise is hard (and not fun)

    Achieving a difficult task is gratifying, even if the pride is only in one’s self.

    There are several glibs now competing daily on the brain teasers, competitively but also trying to improve their own scores. Exercise is the same, run a little farther, faster, lift a little more weight, etc. The problem is no one else notices. We need positive feedback and reinforcement.

    “My goodness, UCS, you look like you’ve ____________” A big smile goes a long ways.

    I’m doing some exercises but the eating is too many cals shoved in and it shows. Need to do more of one, less of the other.

  5. Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

    My Glibfit is trying to feel like a human bean again.

    • Sean

      Are you currently a Lima bean?

      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        Mung bean sounds about right.

  6. Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

    Please keep your fingers crossed. Just did a video call w/my dad, who is in Charlotte looking at an RV on my behalf. He said it was “really nice”. The layout and interior are perfect for my needs.

    He’s negotiating right now.

    Gulp.

    • Sean

      ??

    • UnCivilServant

      So, it has a mural of the city of Nice on the wall?

    • Fourscore

      Hope it all works out for you

    • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

      Still no callback…this is like waiting for a jury verdict. Does a long time mean good or bad news?

      • Ted S.

        Yes.

    • db

      oooh, good luck!

    • Gustave Lytton

      Fingers crossed for Kampered Kristen.

  7. Fourscore

    The phony covid scare did a lot more damage than we realize. Friends drifted away, we began to isolate, now it’s hard to get back into enjoying the camaraderie of other people, even taking a walk with a friend has been made more difficult, psychologically.

    Yesterday I met another of our fellow glibs (and wife) in real life, for the first time. It was great to sit for an hour or so, drink coffee and learn about each other’s lives and family. Too bad most of us live so far apart, or aybe it’s a good thing.

    • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

      If I get my RV, I will be at HH!

      • UnCivilServant

        When is it this year? I haven’t scheduled any vacations this year, so I might be able to make it.

      • Fourscore

        Sep 18th, 3rd Sunday in Sep.

      • UnCivilServant

        Thank you. I’ll see if I can get that time off.

      • Fourscore

        Great, because the glib and missus I met yesterday said they were going to come this year, too.

        We can hook you up with water and power.

      • Tres Cool

        Pick up me & GT. Ill prevent you from going full “Thelma & Louise”.

        Then again, it may be more “Lucy & Ethel”.

      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        It’s got plenty of bed space, but not much crapper space

      • Tres Cool

        Im sure he has plenty of room.

    • Stillhunter

      We thoroughly enjoyed the time and look forward to more.

      Here’s the wood stove we bought from Fourscore. It fit right in place in less than a half hour including removing the old one.

      https://imgur.com/a/XKQktXw
      Not a good pic…

  8. westernsloper

    I loathe the CDC.

    Deletes rest of comment.

    • Hyperion

      Look, they provide a service. Who else is going to protect Pfizer’s profits?

      • westernsloper

        Preach it! God bless the free market of government funded drug companies fucking people up with there “free” drugs!!!!!

    • rhywun

      Was there ever a time the CDC was not a political organ?

      • Chafed

        With the benefit of hindsight, I don’t know.

  9. Hyperion

    Work?

    C’mon man, he bottle feeds! Anyway, those cabninet positions are not about work, they’re political favors. How do y’all expect the machine to run if you don’t grease it?

    • Tres Cool

      “A brewing storm threatens to make matters worse next week as AccuWeather meteorologists “say it could result in a five-day stretch of threatening severe weather as well as a robust snowstorm that could produce dangerous blizzard conditions,”

      Well, that’s never, ever, even once, happened before. But, as long as they can blame weather, and its already been spread around by TMITE.

  10. Tres Cool

    I was doing decently on low-carb for about 18 months, then around Christmas a year back Jugsy came home with these fuckers.

    I baked them, and was like a junkie fresh out of rehab. I think in about an hour I demolished the whole pack and about 1/2 gallon of milk.

    • westernsloper

      Oh I could smash that. Damn. I have been good other than alcohol. There might be a term for that.

      • Tres Cool

        I stuck with <50g-carb/day for a reason. The shitty beer I drink is 3.5g-carb/can. I can stay carb deficient all day and easily have 10 and some bacon.

      • westernsloper

        The past week I have been less than 10g carbs a day. (until last night when I had that bottle of Big Bad Baptist) I have felt weird. A good weird. Things smell different. Eating nothing but meat as an elimination diet makes you realize what is going on when you eat other things. Humans are not designed to eat shit. We are mostly sold shit.

    • DrOtto

      My sister said “we’re the only species that drinks the milk of another animal, what do you have to say about that?” “That’s because we’re the only species that bakes cookies.” – George Wallace

    • R C Dean

      See, Mrs. Dean and I are careful not to sabotage each other. Hell, we have a sit-down before she brings home brownie mix. Cookies never show up, and we get a small cake maybe three times a year, for events/occasions.

      Our Iron Law of healthy eating: If its not in the house, we won’t eat it. So don’t bring stuff home that you know better. We practically never eat out, which helps.

  11. Sean

    Y’all need moar nut butters in your diets.

    Trader Joe’s does a great unsweetened sunflower seed and Barney’s does a great almond butter.

    • Tres Cool

      Heh. “nut butter”

  12. kinnath

    Dormant pruning of the apple trees is now done. Several weeks late because of all the shitty weather this spring.

  13. db

    From the earlier thread, but probably pertinent here:

    Low Carb Jambalaya

    I made that a week ago and it rocks. No roux, so the carbs are low. The zucchini cooks down and thickens the liquid. I used bacon grease instead of the butter and olive oil. Some have suggested that okra can be added to great effect.

    I also used red, yellow, orange, and green bell peppers instead of just green, as the recipe calls for. Adds color and flavor.

    • westernsloper

      sounds great sans the veges.

    • Sean

      I don’t eat shrimp.

      • Tres Cool

        Love ’em. Ill have your portion.

  14. Gustave Lytton

    In order to firewall policymaking from science, perhaps scientific agency directors shouldn’t be political appointees at all.

    So close and yet so far.

    • Mojeaux

      BEAUTIFUL!!!! YAHOOOOOOO!!!!

    • UnCivilServant

      Where’s the Mural of Nice I was promised?

      Congrats, KK.

    • westernsloper

      Excellent!?

    • Sean

      Congrats!

    • Toxteth O'Grady

      Yay! Go, Dad!

    • kinnath

      Congratulations

    • MikeS

      Nice!

    • Animal

      Looks great! Let us know when you’re coming to the Great Land.

    • Tres Cool

      If the RV is rockin’…..

    • R C Dean

      Sweet. A literal dream come true. I look forward to many missives from the road.

    • Gender Traitor

      Another Frabjous Day! ?

    • Gustave Lytton

      Huzzah! Kampered Kristen is happening!

      • Sean

        Heh.

      • MikeS

        lol. Awesome handle

      • Tres Cool

        Thats a Texas-size 10-4

      • Tres Cool

        “This here’s “Double K on the Highway” ”

        Im going to bed.

    • Ted S.

      An Onan generator??

      • db

        They’re better because you don’t need anyone else to help you crank it up.

      • slumbrew

        *thunderous applause*

      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        I mean, that’s pretty much my sex life anyways, so it’s fitting

      • Gustave Lytton

        I tried hard to resist making a comment about how it looks like there’s plenty of room for action in the back end.

    • deadhead

      Congratulations! I’m very excited for you.

    • Tulip

      Congratulations!

      • Ted S.

        Rick Wakeman or Steve Howe?

    • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

      Anyone do pyrography?

      I’d like one sign to go over the door that says “Tenement on Wheels”, and another for the toilet with an outline of Randy Quaid saying “Shitter’s Full”

      • MikeS

        My wife started doing it a few months back. She’s taken to it and does pretty well, I think.

      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        I may contact you in the near future….

      • MikeS

        10-4

    • hayeksplosives

      That’s fantastic! Are you going to fly in to pick it up and drive it back?

      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        My dad will pick it up and park it…somewhere. Near his house, though. I will register it at his address under my name. When I’m ready to hit the road, I’ll just drive my car down, hitch it up, and go!

      • db

        I was talking to a friend yesterday who has a big RV–he says there is a small and dwindling list of cars that are safe to tow four down…I imagine you’ve already done your homework but in case you haven’t, make sure you have one that won’t come apart when towed. Some can’t even be towed on two wheels safely.

        He’s a big fan of pre-2015 Honda CRVs. 2015 and later don’t work though.

      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        I have a 2010 Versa hatch. It’s a hardy little thing, but I’ll check on it!

      • db

        Apparently there’s an RV-ing web site that maintains a list of good cars for towing. I can ask him for a link–but you can probably find it in a search.

      • Draw Me Like One of Your Tulpae, Jack

        A link would be very helpful if you can get it!

      • EvilSheldon

        Interesting, what breaks?

      • db

        It’s different in various vehicles. Apparently in front- and all-wheel drive systems, the transmission doesn’t fully disengage and can be damaged. Also, it depends on which side of the transmission drives the transmission lubrication pump. If it’s on the input side, you’re hosed. On the output side, the wheels can back drive the lube system.

        Manual transmissions are the best, supposedly. And Jeeps are apparently made for towing; you disengage the transmission and the FWD transfer case and you’re good to go, according to him.

        He said even with the CR-V, you need to keep the ignition key in the “on” position (engine not running) and then every 8 hours you have to start the engine, shift through all the gears in turn, and then return it to neutral–evidently that is an official Honda instruction from the manual.

        He told a story of a guy he knew who had the transmission slip into low drive and it overdrove the engine–ran up to 9000 rpm and disintegrated along the highway. He didn’t know it happened until he got to his destination…

    • EvilSheldon

      Spiffy!

    • Fourscore

      Laissez les bon temps roulez.

      Here comes KK!

      Congrats, Young Lady

    • Surly Knott

      Huzzah!
      Congratulations! It does indeed look to be in great condition.

    • Tundra

      Fuck yeah.

      Nice, KK!

    • DEG

      Excellent!

    • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

      Cooooooooooooool.

      Get that ride pimped out for full-on wireless/satellite networking and then go SEE AMERICA!

    • one true athena

      Very cool! I love RV/trailers (and boats) and small space design

    • Zwak,The Baddest Johnny on the Apple Cart

      Great choice. Now, strap a moped to the rear bumper and you are good to go.

    • Mad Scientist

      That V10 is a great motor, but it gets really shitty gas mileage. Keep it below 65 and it’s not horrible. Above that and you’re quickly down to single digit MPG.

    • westernsloper

      Poison.

    • Hyperion

      C’mon man, I’m sure you will enjoy your Tofurkey Chews.

  15. Brochettaward

    I stress First sometimes, but that’s OK because Firsting is good for me and for those around me.

  16. westernsloper

    Do you like motorcycles? I do.

    • Brochettaward

      I’m hoping there is a high correlation between gun ownership and driving gas guzzlers.

    • MikeS

      A lot of replies along theses lines:

      VeeSPIKE
      @veespike

      Here’s a fun thought: Currently in the US, there is an epidemic of catalytic converter thefts. Those are expensive to fix. How about if I catch you near my car at night, I just assume your stealing my converter and I shoot you as a thief?

    • EvilSheldon

      In order to engender a systemic aversion to fucking with other people’s property, I suggest laying in wait for these assholes with a bunch of friends, then beating them into the hospital. Have a late-night poker game/D&D session going for an alibi.

    • JaimeRoberto (shama/lama/ding dong)

      And somehow this sort of thing is allowed to stay up on Twitter.

  17. Ownbestenemy

    Tundra I am sorry for Minnesota not showing up in the first period

    • Ted S.

      I thought it was 1-1 after two before Denver pulled away.

    • Tundra

      Tied now.

      • Tundra

        5-3 Wild.

  18. Hyperion

    How do y’all just post all day, don’t none of ya work?

    • westernsloper

      Not on Sundays.

      • Sean

        I’m working on keeping my couch from floating away.

      • Tundra

        Lol.

        I’ve got the Masters on the TV, the WIld game on the tablet and I’m laptopping with You People.

        Lazy.

      • rhywun

        I’ve taken three naps and I feel a fourth one coming on.

      • Chafed

        I’m jealous.

    • MikeS

      I’ve been working all day. Now I have to pay bills and do some other bookwork. Full-time job and part-time small business can be a bit much, sometimes.

      • Tundra

        I’m stoked for when the small business takes over. Glad you are kicking ass!

      • MikeS

        Me too. My big (only) customer tells me he could keep me full time busy if I were to take the plunge. So far I like my day job and the security it provides. Barring some unforeseen changes, I think around my 57th bday is when I ‘m going to start thinking more seriously about going full time small business owner. So, seven years. We’ll see…

      • Tundra

        I wouldn’t put a date on it. You’ll know.

        Getting it going while you have a steady income was exactly the right move.

      • Mojeaux

        For me, it happened when I couldn’t afford to keep my day job because I was making substantially less.

      • Plinker762

        It’s not much better as a full-time small business owner. I did drawings for aluminum castings Saturday and today is control panel drawings.

      • MikeS

        Yeah, if I were to go full-time with my thing, I have no doubt I’d need to work 7 days a week.

        What’s your business? Engineering, or CAD work, or something along those lines?

      • Plinker762

        Yes, lol. I design electrical, hydraulic and mechanical systems for ropeways (primarily ski lifts) and have a small fab shop for building most of the parts I design. I used to do all of the in-house machine work but recently hired a guy to help me with that. I also do most of electrical panel fabrication but I’ve been training some part-time help for that too.

      • MikeS

        Very cool! If you’ve said that before I missed it, or forgot. That’s great that things are going well enough to hire.

      • Brochettaward

        I have two full time jobs, including my Firsting, and no one ever hears me complain. And I’m doing it while pregnant. No one around here even asks how I’m doing. You selfish cunts.

      • MikeS

        We don’t have to ask because you tell us all the time. It’s like you’re the first person to ever be pregnant.

      • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

        Yeah, you’re like the vegan at a house party, Bro.

      • Tundra

        So, how you doin’?

      • Brochettaward

        YOU DON’T EVEN CARE

      • Ted S.

        You’re damn right we don’t care.

      • Brochettaward

        I am overly emotional right now in my current state. But every Firster is used to the loneliness. The persecution. The jealousy.

        The Jews like to think that they have suffered. My people give, give, and give, and the world takes and takes and takes. You are a taker, Ted S.

      • Ted S.

        Yeah, you give, give, give us a headache.

    • westernsloper

      FFS

  19. Tundra

    Fucking site ate my response. To summarize:

    1. Great topic. The Standard American Diet is a disaster. A massive calorie feedback loop with no satiety. Quit eating shit, motherfuckers.
    2. Plague week. Didn’t lift or do anything until the end of the week. Mama and I rarely get sick, so this was curious.
    3. Ready to get back in the saddle.

    Have a great week, Glibfitters!

  20. EvilSheldon

    Well, it finally happened. The micro red dot on my CZ Shadow 2 crapped out today at the range.

    I’m finding that the MRDs, when mounted to the slide, are good for about 10,000 rounds before they die. Something to keep in mind if you don’t keep a backup piece.

  21. LCDR_Fish

    Frustratingly still haven’t managed to get back to the gym since I switched back to dayshift (lots of hrs makeup for appts, etc) – and won’t be on eves again till Aug.

    Should get some cardio this week in SD, and then next week, hopefully I can try and restart some routines (4 weeks to next fitness assessment).

    Also, after listening to a few more folks on Carolla, gonna try and work to limit my eating window a little more – be more consistent for 8 hrs, 2 meals or so.

    Actually managed a few days this past week on only 1 meal/day – but a lot comes down to schedule/routine/etc.

    • LCDR_Fish

      I still have urges for chewy sweets particularly, but I’m getting better at limiting intake/portion size. And often if I give myself a few more min after eating, my stomach catches up with my appetite.

  22. The Hyperbole

    DAILY QUORDLE ROUNDUP™©
    #76
    Men’s Division
    Champ(s)
    l0b0t 19

    SDF-7 21
    Grummun 22
    JG43 22
    kinnath 22
    rhywun 22
    cyto 23
    Ted S. 23
    grrizzly 23
    The Hyperbole 24
    MikeS 24
    trshmnstr the terrible 24
    Tundra 24
    Ghostpatzer 27
    Sean 28
    Translucent Chum 28
    Raven Nation 30

    Chump(s)
    Grumbletarian 119

    Women’s Division
    Champ(s)
    No entries. And they wonder why they only make 70¢ to the $

    Will l0b0t be the first glib to three-peat? Grumbletarian chumps it up with his first reported failure.

    • Sean

      ?

    • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

      I didn’t even bother to report, I buggered it up so badly today.

      I blame my SU not being home to send me subtle waves of love, acceptance and healing through the house.

      • The Hyperbole

        It’s a free country and what not, but I should point out that one needs to report at least five times/week (DQR week runs from Sat-Fri) to be eligible for “player of the week” and perchance win the respect and admiration of your fellow Glib quordler’s.

      • Brochettaward

        Look at this guy creating all these rules and guidelines and telling the rest of us to follow him.

        I’m going to dub you the Quordle Fascist.

      • The Hyperbole

        I created QDR so I set the rules, I may disagree with IP but as long as it’s the law of the land I’ll use it to my advantage.

      • deadhead

        Ding!

    • one true athena

      It’s amazing how quickly I forget every five-letter-word I ever learned after I don’t do these games for a few days.

  23. hayeksplosives

    My husband and I are both overweight. We’ve done the strict Adkins diet in the past, with some success. Even though we aren’t formally doing it anymore, we still are “carb conscious” and manage to limit cabs somewhat. This has paid off big-time for him, so much so that his A1c is 4.5 (has been for a few years) so he no longer takes Metformin.

    One of our bad eating habits is that we celebrate by eating. Birthday? Let’s go out for dinner! (In fact, we are doing that very thing tonight, even though my birthday isn’t until tomorrow.) Promotion? Let’s go out for dinner! Beautiful day? Let’s grill! And so on.

    Not sure how that particular habit formed, but we definitely have a celebrate-with-food cycle going on.

    • Name's BEAM. James BEAM.

      I’m not sure that’s a particular “habit” so much as a cross-cultural custom engendered by hundreds of thousands of years of want and privation.

      We’re just no longer in the “want and privation” part of the civilizational path.

      • Ted S.

        Politicians are trying to bring it back.

    • The Bearded Hobbit

      I don’t necessarily think that that is a bad thing.

      We’re not strangers to that line of thought. As our kids have grown a visit is often at a restaurant. We celebrate birthdays, anniversaries, and other special occasions with food. Eating out doesn’t have to mean “the 75 oz monster steak at the Big Texan” either. Eat a nice meal out with dietary guidelines in mind and it can be enjoyable. At worst let it count as a “cheat day”. You’re allowed some rewards, aren’t you?

    • Mojeaux

      Eating is a social activity that bonds people, so it’s not really about the food. It’s about the bonding.

      • cyto

        Which completely does not explain why I eat a half box of mint chocolate chip ice cream at 11:30 at night.

    • DEG

      (In fact, we are doing that very thing tonight, even though my birthday isn’t until tomorrow.)

      Happy Birthday!

      I don’t think celebrating with food is a bad thing as long as it you haven’t watered down “celebrating” such that it is a constant thing.

    • cyto

      Oh….
      Happy. Happy birthday
      On your special day!
      Happy. Happy birthday
      Is what I’m here to say!
      Happy, happy birthday
      May all your dreams come true!
      Happy, happy birthday!
      From all of us to you!

    • deadhead

      Happy Birthday in advance.

    • hayeksplosives

      Thanks, y’all!

      I had the surf and turf: filet mignon and lobster tail; dessert was bread pudding (chef is Cajun).

      Yum!

      • Tundra

        Nice!

        Happy Birthday, girlie!

  24. cyto

    Ok, time for the brain trust to chime in. This is important…

    I watched “Peacemaker” on HBO Max. It was weird. But that isn’t what the brain trust is assembling for.

    It had muddled messages of woke and anti-woke themes. It got preachy and heavy handed with a far left view of middle America, then subverted the messaging by giving the woke message a bitch slap every now and again. But that isn’t what the brain trust is here for.

    No, at the end there is a nice preachy far left moment, and in it there is a single phrase that we need to noodle out. Our progressive voice of reason calls peacemakers view of freedom “libertarian-fascist”

    Now, if you are a libertarian. Fascist is kinda the polar opposite. It is like calling someone skinny-fat or tall-short.

    But it is not a Gunn created idea. At least since Trump got elected and they started tossing around the alt-tight label. The far left has decided that fascist and libertarian are the same thing, or at least related closely.

    What in the ever loving Hades is that? Where does that come from? How do you get there? I just don’t get it. Outside of writers at reason, most of the libertarians I know are indeed conservative libertarian…. But even as such they tend to wind up far to the left of progressive democrats on most social issues.

    Is it just that they have no idea what fascist and libertarian mean?

    Is it because they don’t understand how many of their authoritarian positions are actually fascist?

    There were a ton of moments in that series that ripped me out of the goofy fun universe they created, but that one was the most grating, not because it was the worst (not even close), but because it was so incredibly stupid.

    • rhywun

      College kids have been calling anything they disagree with “fascist” for decades. It has no real meaning to the left anymore, and therefore to the sort of people who grow up to write for HBO.

    • The Hyperbole

      Is it just that they have no idea what fascist and libertarian mean?

      Got it in one.

    • Brochettaward

      I didn’t watch that show, but the linking of libertarianism and fascism goes back way further and I just chalk it up to the moronic tendency of the left to link everything they don’t like to fascism.

      Time and time again as a guy who argued with people on the internet I ran into lefties who viewed it as fascist for libertarians to restrain the government from acting in a way that they wanted. That’s not my summary of the argument, but the actual point they would make. In their twisted worldview, it was fascism to force small government onto people even if the end result meant that people were given more freedom (a word they would have disagreed with, because freedom to them is the freedom from want – not the ability to make unrestrained choices). You can try to wrap your head around the derp if you’d like.

      • cyto

        Yeah… I see this stuff too. But James Gunn is pretty freaking smart. And he has made hundreds of millions. Surely he has more than a passing knowledge of socialism. Fascism and libertarianism. He is a writer and director. It isn’t like he is a dipshit actor who just looks good and pretends to be somebody else.

        I really am kinda despondent about the state of my fellow man. If you cannot tell the difference between the *most* authoritarian philosophy and the second least authoritarian philosophy….. I mean, how can you figure out which end of the stock to pull on in the morning??

      • cyto

        Oh, and on “didn’t watch the show”…. I actually recommend it despite some glaring flaws.

        John Cena is just pitch perfect with his earnest goofiness.

        So it is a lot of fun. By and large.

        Unless you are of the religious right and are offended by things poking fun at the right and the church, it can be pretty funny.

      • cyto

        And sock. You pull on your socks.

      • Brochettaward

        I mean, Gunn isn’t writing to impress you. He works in an industry that does not allow for political dissent. He gets his accolades from people who are fully on board with sophomoric, one-sided take downs of their political opponents. He’s a propagandist who happens to be more entertaining than most.

        People, especially smart people, are also capable of convincing themselves of anything. So Gunn may not even be self-aware no matter how smart or clever (I think mildly clever is really the best term to describe a guy who produces relatively shallow popcorn entertainment) he seems. What’s that asshole who made The Wire’s name again? He’s never cast a ballot for a R in his life, is profoundly proud of that fact, and would probably gladly call you a libertarian fascist, too. It’s like he’s never even seen his own TV show.

      • The Hyperbole

        never cast a ballot for a R in his life, is profoundly proud of that fact

        Meh, I’ve cast one ballot for an R and I’m profoundly embarrassed by that fact.

      • Brochettaward

        Did you also write a show about how your hometown was ruined by the corruption of cynical, machine party Democrats? And then proceed to spend years defending their honor and helping them get elected in said hometown?

      • The Hyperbole

        If your bitch is that he’s a Democrat I’m with you, but your bitch seemed to be that he’s not a Republican, fuck Republicans.

      • MikeS

        Sounds about right

      • Gustave Lytton

        Either it’s stupidity, or it’s intentional, or it’s the aversion to recognizing what they’re promoting _is_ fascism and they’re the baddies.

      • MikeS

        …lefties who viewed it as fascist for libertarians to restrain the government from acting in a way that they wanted.

        Reminds me of a local blogger who used to be pretty decent. He labeled himself a “libertarian-leaning conservative”, and I think that was a pretty accurate assessment. Well, after one of the worst cases of TDS I’ve witnessed, along with a no-shit near death experience with COVID, he’s completely gone. And yet he says that he hasn’t changed, EVERYONE else around him changed…but I digress.

        He made the same argument when there was legislation in the North Dakota legislature to ban cities from enacting mask mandates. He argued that “small government” would be letting those cities make up their own minds about mask mandates. If you were in favor of stopping them, you were advocating for “big government” intervention. The most eyerolling part of it all was when he was handed multiple studies showing mask mandates didn’t work, he announced he wasn’t going to discuss whether mask mandates worked anymore because that was a waste of time.

        TDS + COVID really destroyed some people’s cognitive abilities. It’s sad to watch.

      • Brochettaward

        One of my favorite people to argue with was a full on commie. Like, the guy spent time in Syria working with Marxist Kurds and shit. A true believer. My favorite end point in every argument was pointing out that my world view could accommodate people like him, but people like me were put to the wall in his ideal society. Marxists are perfectly free to engage in free association and establish whatever types of communities they want, they just can’t use force on others to make them go along. He felt as long as democracy was involved, anything was justified and that things like property rights were inherently violent because they were backed up with the threat of force.

        It was incredibly easy to get him to defend the honor of the Soviets.

        A ban on lower levels of government using force to make people wear masks is obviously not big government. But to some people, if it has the magic rubber stamp of democracy…A conservative, especially a libertarian leaning one, should comprehend that simple fact. Then I look at the shit Reason and some “libertarians” are pumping out and I guess it’s not so obvious.

      • cyto

        I have one of those in my life! She has a PhD in a “studies” department that has to do with black people, oppression and Africa.

        The problem is, she is stupid.

        Now, being stupid isn’t a sin. A lot of good people are stupid. But being confident that you are the smartest person in the world and certain that you are right about all things when you are stupid kinda makes you insufferable.

        The best summation of what arguing with her is like came in a discussion about white supremacy and racism in America. She says that more than 5,000 black people are lynched in America every year. And that back in the 50s and earlier it was more than 50,000.

        Remember. PhD in this stuff.

        (,I happened to know the answer because of a childhood book ordered from the schoolstic catalog… The Book Of Lists. In it was the fact that the year with the most lynching in the 20th century was 1901, with 105 lynchings. Those are total, not just black folk. )

        Being off by theo and a half orders of magnitude makes you impossible to argue with. And she literally went to the mat on that one.

        She remains the only person I have seen say overtly racist things in person in this century.

        So let me know when you are having a cocktail party… I’ll send her over to be the entertainment…

      • rhywun

        The Book Of Lists

        I loved those books.

        I think I know why my head is full of so much useless trivia.

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        I loved those books.

        I am such a trivia nerd that one year for my birthday my sister bought me a book the size of a phone book called something like, “The Mammoth Book of Trivia”. I think that I can quote it chapter and verse.

      • Gustave Lytton

        +1 ACLU lawsuit to force masks on everyone else

    • Fourscore

      Because many people are politically illiterate and calling someone a dirty word like libertarian-fascist is so easy. There are few libertarians to complain and many fascists would take it as a compliment .

      “I am far more liberal than you and far more conservative than you. I believe you can take drugs without penalty but you take full responsibility for your actions”

      • cyto

        I really enjoy doing that one. I have held court over beers several times playing “I am far more liberal than you progressives and far more conservative than you conservatives.”

        The new woke kinda broke it though. Progressives are now wrapped up in so many conflicting ideas that they are more conservative than themselves all the time. So no great trick there.

        Being in favor of sex workers having full legal protection and full legal status is being a sex trafficker today. And being in favor of women’s rights and women’s empowerment through sports in college is now regressive. As is believing that being a woman is a a thing… Sorry Rowling, but you are cancelled for being a fascist. Claiming that trans women are any different than cis-het women in any way at all

        Drugs cannot be legal. They have to be decriminalized, but only when licensed by the state. Corny capitalism is a progressive thing. Huh?

        You just can’t even parody these folks.

    • The Bearded Hobbit

      I’ve been wondering for quite a while what the leftist definition of “fascist” is. From what I’ve gathered it is something like, “someone who disagrees with me”.

      For me, the best test that the FedGov is fascist is the CAFE law. How in the everloving hell did the morons in DC get to decide what MPG the cars that people drive? Free people vote with their checkbooks. Volkswagen hit a note with MPG conscious people by offering a cheap alternative back in the 50’s-60’s. Shortly after, the Japanese flooded the market with MPG-friendly cars in the Energy Crisis days of the 70’s. If you want to save gas bucks today then there is a plethora of vehicles available, due entirely to people’s wants and desires, not because of some BigBro dictate. That choice is going to disappear by diktat rather than free market opinion.

      • one true athena

        It’s just like with masks – you can’t “allow” people to make the wrong choice. There are bad people who will be bad so you must force them to comply by mandating everything. And no, not one of them gets that it’s authoritarian, at minimum, and if directed at certain groups fascist, even by their own definition (which is basically just ‘authoritarian with racism’.)

        And that, to answer the question, is why “fascism” gets lumped in with “libertarians” – they’re both ‘right-wing’ racists so squishing them together is Extra Super Bad.

        In fairness, I suspect a bit of revenge motive if Gunn actually wrote it himself, since he was unpersoned/canceled there for awhile. If he felt unfairly targeted (esp if he thought he was RW friendly) it might come out as ‘you fuckers think you’re “libertarian” but you’re really just fascist assholes).

      • cyto

        He is the writer on the series. And he takes both sides in a confusing way.

        I can’t really tell where he is preaching from… Which at least makes it interesting.

        SPOILERS
        He makes the whole thing about global warming and pollution and save the planet at the end. He has the bad guys (alien body snatchers) say they are interfering in our world because we are making the same mistake they made in ruining their plant. The bad guy makes a huge speech about how Peacemaker should join them and save the world….. At which point Peacemaker kills them all.

        So is Gunn killing the woke mob? Or is Gunn making fun of the far right who are the idiots who would kill the people trying to save them.

      • kinnath

        yes

      • Mustang

        Maybe stop trying to figure out what Gunn is preaching and enjoy the show? Looking for motives on the part of the writers is halfway to the same mentality as the cancel mobs. “He portrayed a black guy wrong, he must be racist! iLynch him!”

      • Brochettaward

        Problem is, you can ignore that message all you want, it has an impact. When the vast majority of pop culture is spreading woke leftism, don’t be surprised when you end up with a society that is dominated by woke leftists.

        I do my best to avoid consuming that shit, personally. I’m certainly not going to pay them for the honor of telling me that they think I’m a piece of garbage.

      • Mustang

        It is out of control, but in this particular case if you can’t figure out what “message” the writer is trying to portray I’d call that progress against woke BS because it’s usually pretty up front.

      • Mustang

        To clarify, if you can’t figure out what POLITICAL message the writer is trying to portray.

      • rhywun

        I was napping with The Simpsons on today and when I woke up there was one on that was obvious anti-fracking propaganda. Like, not even subtle.

        And then I remembered why I don’t watch The Simpsons any more. It’s not even mostly the stupid politics, it’s the insulting way they present them.

      • Zwak,The Baddest Johnny on the Apple Cart

        Gunn works in an industry where one has to be woke. Gunn has been caught in apostasy by said woke mob before.

        My guess would be that he is trying to keep his job, while getting some digs in. Makes for a better story, but makes for a better paycheck too.

        Remember that “don’t look up” movie? It cut both ways too. Methinks Woke is slipping.

      • The Bearded Hobbit

        It’s just like with masks

        How quickly it went from “masks will save you” to “if you don’t wear a mask you will kill me”. Individual choice gets thrown out at the first opportunity.

      • Zwak,The Baddest Johnny on the Apple Cart

        The left is nothing if not communitarian. Which is the root of all this discussion; if you deny the collective, you are the fascist.

        Stupid, but there you go.

    • kinnath

      The character said it. And it was totally in character for her to say it.

      Doesn’t mean the writer believes it.

    • Mustang

      They don’t have any idea what they’re talking about. They’re like children repeating words they just learned. It takes tremendous effort to break out of any a frame of reference and think about what you’re thinking and most people don’t do it.

      But, I’ll pretend they are having actual thoughts and take a stab at it:

      Progressives cannot imagine something without government involvement.

      Fascism marries corporate and government power.

      Libertarians want to deregulate and allow corporations to, you know, conduct business and other evil corporatey stuff.

      Since progressives cannot imagine something without government involvement, they see the deregulation of corporations, link that with government involvement, and get to fascism.

      Therefore, libertarians are fascist because you can’t have deregulated corporations without government involvement. Hence, libertarian-fascist.

    • Raven Nation

      Meh, I think it’s just a (fairly lazy) association piece of thinking. Conservatives want limited government. Libertarians want even more limited government. Therefore libertarians are further to “the right” than conservatives. Hmm, who else is further to the right? Oh yeah, fascists. Therefore libertarians = fascists.

      In Bosch Season 6, there was a brief moment when the initial murder victim was described as libertarian. When his business partner was asked to describe “how libertarian” the dead guy was, he responded, “somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan.” Now, that’s a dumb line for a bunch of reasons, but it points out that a lot of people just see libertarians existing somewhere to the right of conservatives (in the same way that many see socialists to the left of progressives).

      In reality, political philosophy is pretty complicated but it’s easier if we can reduce it to a single continuum.

  25. Mustang

    I binge eat when I get lazy and stop cooking for myself, and then I do it several days in a row. Stress presents itself in different ways and we cope in different ways (I’m all ears for new ways to cope because healthy eating and working out isn’t doing it for me anymore).

    My family is getting ready to go to Yellowstone and do a bunch of hiking in two months, so we are all taking it and giving ourselves “challenges” to get ready for it. Still not sure what to do for mine other than “wake up early and do more harder things.”

    • Chafed

      Here is my half baked answer: get some perspective. I have been/am now in the same boat. I have had to carve out some time to examine the source of my stress. I then spent more time examining how much of it is a real problem and how much was me fixating on it. When I got the contours of what was real, I then put together a plan to address it. When I implemented the first part of the plan it was a huge relief. My problem wasn’t solved but I felt the change of making some progress. There is still some stress but it is more manageable.

  26. Tundra

    Second time through Only Murders In The Building.

    Whichever one of you freaks who recommended it: thank you.

    Selena Gomez is gonna be working 30 years from now. She’s tremendous.

    • pistoffnick

      I believe it was Hayeksplosives who first recommended it.

      I thought Selena was the weakest of the three actors. Maybe I just don’t like her flat manner of speaking.

      I’ll agree, it was a good show.

      • Tundra

        At first I thought so too. The longer it went on the more I liked her deadpan and how smart she was.

        Doesn’t matter. I don’t feel that my time has been wasted. That’s a win.

      • Zwak,The Baddest Johnny on the Apple Cart

        I still haven’t seen the last episode, but I have an idea…

        And you are right, it took a while to warm to Gomez.

  27. Tres Cool

    Im off to work kids.
    Leave a light on for me.

    • Tundra

      Go get ’em. Have a great night!

  28. Ownbestenemy

    Damn Tundra. I have never seen a team fall apart that way cause of a bad call. Maybe in my youth but not professionals. Good call not to pull Fluery

    • Tundra

      It wasn’t just the call. The Wild came out like little bitches. I told my wife that they would win. She thinks I’m a great hockey mind, but I really didn’t have a moment of worry.

      Best Wild team I’ve ever seen.

      And yes, you need to let Flower finish.

      • Brochettaward

        And yes, you need to let Flower finish.

        I finish as soon as I start. That is the magic of Firsting.

      • Tundra

        How’s your side-to-side movement?

        Want me to get you a tryout?

      • Brochettaward

        I played hockey as a child. I was kicked out of a game because I would always start before the ref dropped the puck. I was punished for being First. I swore off all sports from that day forward.

        I could be a HOF hockey player, I’m sure. But I was born for bigger things.

      • Chafed

        You’re talking about sex, aren’t you?

  29. creech

    Brochetta says When the vast majority of pop culture is spreading woke leftism, don’t be surprised when you end up with a society that is dominated by woke leftists.”
    So, how did pop culture get infested with wokeism? And what can libertarians do, if anything, to reverse it? John Locke and some other folks inspired the Founding Fathers (or at least a majority of them) to create the most free society on earth. Whatever passed for “pop culture” in the day supported the ideas in the Declaration. Why did it change? Why do we tolerate having a supreme court justice that doesn’t believe in natural rights in a country that was founded on natural rights?

    • Brochettaward

      In terms of what we can do, I’m highly supportive of people voting with their dollars. These companies are alienating half the population or more by interjecting their politics and they need to feel the sting. It pains me when I see people on here argue that this somehow makes you the same as the leftists. I’m not looking for all pop culture to reinforce my political views. I’m simply not going to support woke propaganda or shit that bastardizes source material and established brands.

      I think we’re finally starting to see the sane normies and political right in this country fight back when it comes to their kids’ education. We need more of that with regards to everything. There is a real silent majority in this country that is fed up with wokeism. It’s black, white, Hispanic and just about every other color.

      Make the commies go back into the closet, I say. Or make their political bullshit a niche for the people who actually enjoy it and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

      The culture wars are real and sadly important. Politics flows downhill from culture.

      • Chafed

        I think Disney is going to be a test case. They are doing a great job of antagonizing their fans. Let’s see how many close their wallets.

      • EvilSheldon

        This right here. I’ve said before, as repulsive as the culture wars are, you really can’t opt out of them and expect a positive outcome.

        To quote Bertolt Brecht, “Suppose they gave a war, and nobody came? Why then, the war would come to you!”

    • KSuellington

      Progressives have managed to punch massively above their actual weight in numbers. Even here in prog-frigging-topia I would say that they don’t even make up a quarter of the population, and of course far fewer in most of the US. There are many reasons for this that would be far too long to get into, but they have managed to get their ideas mainstreamed in this country and certainly education, the media and Hollywood steadily injecting their mores into the culture has gotten lots of people to either accept some of their premises or to just go along because they think that is what everyone else (that matters) thinks. It is reaching a head now, and there is finally some serious cultural pushback. I agree with the Bro that one of the ways to fight back is to not spend your money on their products. Making true alternatives to their bullshit is another,

      • EvilSheldon

        “Progressives have managed to punch massively above their actual weight in numbers.”

        This is what really confuses me – how do the Progressives manage? They’re certainly no smarter than any other political faction, they have impressive levels of ideological infighting, and their ideas would repulse a rabid skunk*. How do they manage to throw their weight around like they do?

        * – Figure of speech – skunks are actually quite friendly.

    • Yusef drives a Kia

      My sister lost all her beautiful red hair to C19 but it came back thicker and redder than ever. the odd part is it’s super curly, she always had straight hair.
      just my 2c.

    • Chafed

      The Vax™ causes female hair loss?

    • Gustave Lytton

      They all identify as males with male pattern baldness?

    • Ted S.

      None of their husbands slapped Chris Rock?

  30. Chafed

    Well, it finally happened. I absent mindedly took my dog’s anti-seizure medication instead of my vitamin.

    • Gustave Lytton

      *moves dog’s estrogen pills to other counter in kitchen*

  31. grrizzly

    I’ve just booked flights to England and Denmark in late May-early June. That was my bet that the US transit face mask mandate would be lifted this month. And a related bet that the British Airways and United would drop their internal mask mandates at the same time. SAS already doesn’t require masks. If the US transit face mask mandate doesn’t expire this month (I still have an extra month) with all the institutional support behind dropping it, then I have serious doubts it expires ever.

    • Gustave Lytton

      Good luck. I give better odds that Air Koryo will start scheduled service to LAX.

    • Sean

      My money is on never expiring.

      *not a good gambler*

      • rhywun

        My money is on another extension while the administration haplessly “thinks about it”.

  32. hayeksplosives

    I’m sorry to see that my post acknowledging and thanking you lot for my birthday wishes was devoured by word press.

    So, again, thank you all for your well wishes. Let’s hope and pray for a maximum number of us here again for the next trip round the sun.

    • grrizzly

      Happy Birthday!

      • dbleagle

        Happy Birthday HE!

    • Sean

      Happy Birthday!!

    • db

      Happy Birthday!

  33. Sean

    I won a GB auction last night!

    *credit card sobbing in the corner*

      • Sean

        A super sweet Sig. Reverse two tone.

      • Sean

        “Air raid siren?”

        It’s early, I don’t get it.

        P220 model.

      • UnCivilServant

        Well, it was the police siren that alternated between two tones, sorry.

      • Sean

        ?

        That wooshed right over my head.

    • TARDis

      Not a fan of his vocals, but I like the music.

    • rhywun

      Just keeping everyone on their toes scared shitless.

  34. Festus

    Mornin’ Glibbies! Happiest of birthdays to Hayek and a thunderous round of applause for our kibbled one who has finally joined the peace train! That’s fantastic news! Just discovered the big summer trip that the non-fucked kids are going on this summer. The Bowron Lakes circuit. I can’t join them. I can’t sit a canoe for hours on end and do portages, anymore. That makes me a sad panda…

  35. Gender Traitor

    Good morning, Fes, Sean, TARDy, and U!

    Sorta on-topic: Tried my first experiment with making impromptu chicken salad last night. Used some leftover pulled chicken – no barbecue sauce, of course, but some sort of seasoning. Added a bunch of non-mayo light salad dressing (house brand version of Miracle Whip) and some chopped up celery. Not remarkable, but not the worst thing I’ve ever had. Not the ideal texture or flavoring for what I prefer. I’ll keep trying. I’m about to give up on frozen Atkins meals for lunches because the selection at my grocery continues to suck.

    • Festus

      Finely chopped onions and even gherkins are your friends.

    • UnCivilServant

      Morning, GT.

      I’m not sure when I last made chicken salad. Possibly never, since I rarely have leftover chicken.

      I hate arriving at the office and thinking “I wish I called out today”. Problem is, my outgoing supervisor oversold my grasp of what was going on at his job level, and they’re expecting me to be able to seamlessly step in.

      • Gender Traitor

        Next time, I think I’ll start with one of the small cans of chicken in the pantry, but the pulled chicken needed to be eaten.

        Sorry about your work situation. I hope you have someone you feel comfortable enough with to ask the necessary questions.

      • UnCivilServant

        Despite being packed in water, canned chicken tends to be on the dry side… somehow. At least as far as how it tastes. So if I were to use it in making chicken salad, I’d want to figure out a way to dry off the water that isn’t going to be absorbed into the chicken (and thus would dilute the dressing) and make sure there was ample dressing.

        I notice you didn’t mention any salt, pepper, or other seasonings. Are those assumed, or did you not include them?

      • Gender Traitor

        Because there was already some seasoning in the pulled chicken, I didn’t add any. Just wanted to see what it tasted like with what was already in there. With canned chicken, I’d definitely need to put in more flavor. Any ideas?

      • UnCivilServant

        My go-to with these mayo salads is what I think of as Deviled Egg seasoning – salt, pepper, paprika, mustard, and sometimes vinegar.

  36. Festus

    I missed out on the trans-mountain hike last year. Guess I’m stuck sitting in the shadows from here on out. I used to be an athlete.

    • Fourscore

      Time to get out the fishing gear, Fes, standing on the dock counts. I used to enjoy wearing chest waders and walk the shore line, caught a lot of nice bass in the evenings. I can probably still do that but I’ll bribe some other old guy to sit in the boat with me. We can BS each other.

  37. robodruid

    Good Morning crew….
    First off KK: I hope the vehicle brings all the joy you could want with your nomad lifestyle.
    Hayek: Congrats on surviving another year with us. Your wit is appreciated.

    Another busy weekend. Digging, planting, shearing, building… Either its killing me, or its what i wanted, not sure which. Thank gods of chemistry for creating chemicals that allowed me to sleep. Lets see what stupid shit work comes up with this week.

    • Gender Traitor

      Good morning, ‘bodru!

      What are you planting? Are you growing a garden or something extensive enough to qualify as a crop?

      • robodruid

        I am planting veggies for eating.
        I have planted millet for the chickens.
        I have planted field corn for the sheep. (store bought dry corn, feed store wanted 3$/oz “seed corn”)
        I will plant a box full of pumpkin seeds that we harvested and accumulated last fall. Internet tells me that this will cause all sorts of chaos. This will be for the sheep.

        And i have 4 fruit trees that i have to replace (deer damage)

      • Gender Traitor

        Wow! Do you have a full-time job on top of all this?

        Also, I didn’t know sheep ate pumpkins.

      • UnCivilServant

        They make Jack-O-Lantern helmets out of them.

      • robodruid

        Thank goodness for WFH. Only way i could keep up with this.
        NO stupid meetings yet.

        Sheep have loved the pumpkins. I have been told that they are “natural” deowrmers.

      • UnCivilServant

        The gourd, leaf, or stalk?

      • robodruid

        The gourd, i guess i can try to see if they eat the leafs and stalks, never thought about it.

      • robodruid

        Looking at more peas, some Prescott Melon, and Spinach this am. Also a raised bed of salad greens.
        Some leek that are ready to be transplanted to another raised bed.
        garlic.
        This AM.

      • Festus

        We were really into it until the kids moved away. Just boxes now. We had three large garden plots but now we can’t give away what we could grow and the freezers are full. It was fun and a lot of work while it lasted. Good skills to acquire.

      • robodruid

        Several reasons to try it.

        Your future any clearer Fest?

      • Festus

        Nope.

    • Festus

      I’m actually enjoying work because I’ll be shed of this job soon. What’s next? Who knows.

    • Ghostpatzer

      I didn’t realize you also had a job; taking care of the crops and critters seems like a full time gig to me. Wow.

      • robodruid

        Spring has been very busy.
        And it is two jobs, I work from sunup to sunset. Thank goodness for sunset.

  38. Ghostpatzer

    Mornin’!

    Belated happy birthday to ‘splosives, may there be many more!

    And congrats to KK on the RV! look out, America, here she comes!

    Ultimate quordle achievement: not one, but two failures! Where’s my participation prize?

    Daily Quordle 77
    ??
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    • The Hyperbole

      Ah yes, the rare “MikeS”, I just barely eked by today 6954

      • trshmnstr the terrible

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        In the words of my northern friends, uffda!

      • The Hyperbole

        The worst part is l0b0t’s gonna stroll in and post an 18.

      • Sean

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      Right there with you. Complete suck today.

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  39. Tres Cool

    Vishnu H. Koresh, what a night.

    suh’ fam
    whats goody

  40. Tres Cool

    Since I had all night to think about KK’s purchase I decided she needs some motherfuckin’ theme music.

  41. Ghostpatzer

    I believe I encountered peak derp over the weekend.

    I take a daily two-mile walk around the neighborhood. There’s an old German lady who walks three annoying wiener dogs, we usually exchange pleasantries and go our separate ways. Saturday afternoon I see her standing in her front yard and as I approach she says, “Haff you been my new friend?” “Where”, I say. “Over there”. And there, under a tree, is a deer eating it of a dish. “You feed this deer?” “Ja, it is very difficult for them. There are too many people, they Haff nowhere to live.” It’s very uncomfortable to hear that there are to many people in a thick Geman accent. Not to mention that my town might have the largest per capital deer population in the nation.

  42. Fourscore

    Good morning, Fes, Sean, TARDy, UCS, Robo and ‘Patzer.

    Snow again last night but only an inch. It’ll go away today. Slowly the snow is receding.

    I’m getting the bee equipment cleaned up, in the garage. A little cool but with some tunes on the box life is good, the days roll by one after the next. Bees show up in about another month but they may need some sweaters to start the season.

    I’ll get some tomato seeds in the dirt, speaking of which, I have some cabbage seeds in the little peat pots with store bought starting soil. When I lift the cover off and smell that fresh, humid dirt I think I’ve died and gone to heaven. What a great memory for an old farm boy.

    Days are longer, sun, when it’s out is brighter. Everything is looking up. Thanks to all the glibs and especially those that keep on keeping on.

    • UnCivilServant

      Morning.

      Know anyone who knits bee sweaters?

  43. Tres Cool

    | Chafed on April 10, 2022 at 11:16 pm
    | Well, it finally happened. I absent mindedly took my dog’s anti-seizure medication instead of my vitamin.

    Cute story- once on my way out the door to work I accidentally took my Pyrennes’s special thunderstorm sedative, thinking it was the antibiotic prescribed for my sinus infection.

    Acepromazine is a hell of a drug.