In 1934, Harold Ickes, the US Secretary of the Interior issued a proclamation few are aware of today: halting the construction of the Parker Dam. Why would he do a thing like that?
He had little choice after the Governor of Arizona declared a de facto war on California and mobilized the National Guard to halt construction of the dam intended to divert Colorado River water towards Southern California.
This is my review of Tio Rodrigo Churro Stout:
While stories about an Arizona governor mobilizing the guard to achieve political aims is nothing new around here, this time around its more than just a cute story because the fight continues to this day. Since joining the Arizona LP, this is one of those issues that come up because quite frankly Arizona is a desert and that fact is a lot more apparent to residents than other states in the west. The other issue is how often LP candidates get tied up when speaking to the press, who tend to highlight the fact the LP has nothing for the “free sh—” crowd American politics is often pandering to. The other reason is in conversations with others throughout the state, a potential untapped source of recruits to the LP can be brought on board should any party take a coherent position on the issue. Both major parties play lip service to this issue and maintain the status quo out of convenience and here is an opportunity for the LP to appeal to voters by taking a radical position.
This will be a two part feature, the first outlining the problem and next week attempting to come up with a solution. This is intended as a policy proposal of sorts for an insurgent movement within the LP in an effort to build more grassroots support. Having an answer or at least an understanding of to the issue is certainly better than looking confused, and asking “what’s Aleppo?” on national television.
What is the issue?
The Colorado River is the main source of water for nearly 40 million Americans in seven states in the mountain west. It is divided into the Upper Basin (CO, WY, UT, NM) and the Lower Basin (CA, AZ, NV). The Colorado River Compact was signed in 1922 by the aforementioned states and is regarded as the “Law of the River” that appropriates 7.5 million acre feet of water per year…until the end of time, apparently.
Unfortunately for those that live in those seven states, particularly in the Lower Basin, the amount of water stored in existing infrastructure is becoming alarmingly low. With the increase in population migrations to these arid states, the dependency on this limited infrastructure will only be exasperated.
This is all climate change, right?
Not really.
Seriously? This has to be happening because of climate change.
Nope. Just ask the far right, chronic science denying outfit, Mother Jones, who reported in 2014 on NOAA studies suggesting the most recent drought in California was not caused by man made climate change:
But according to new research by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, California’s drought was primarily produced by a lack of precipitation driven by natural atmospheric cycles that are unrelated to man-made climate change. In other words, climate change may have worsened the impacts of the drought, but it isn’t the underlying cause.
…although assuming the climate data models are in any way correct, it probably doesn’t help. The west is dominated by a desert climate, and this is not a new development that occurred due to industrialization. This problem was caused primarily by government mismanagement of natural resources.
This shouldn’t be surprising for anyone with access to a history book. The best example is the Aral Sea in the former Soviet Union. There the region around what was then the world’s fourth largest freshwater lake was viewed as an ideal location to grow cotton. So irrigation canals were built along the the two rivers feeding the lake. Naturally, with no water going into the lake, it eventually dried up and is now 10% of its former volume. Not to mention the environmental impact to the region.
Delusions of American Exceptionalism cannot overcome F.A. Hayek’s knowledge problem, and thus our government is no less capable of erring on a catastrophic scale. When the Colorado River Compact was signed by those seven states in 1922 they overlooked one very big detail: the total water to allocate was significantly less than they anticipated.
This is all California’s fault?
Californians moving in? We have a solution!
Its more complicated. Going back to the the 1934 Parker Dam Water War, California noticed the population in the southern half of the state was growing at a rate beyond existing resources within the state, and sought to build the dam and an an aqueduct towards the population centers in Southern California. Arizona mobilized the guard because the perception then was California was simply taking a bigger share of the Colorado River than they previously agreed. The hostilities ended in short time after a few embarrassing incidents…for Arizona, and eventually the Parker Dam was built with aqueducts going both east and west. Gov. Moeur was vindicated to a degree in the ensuing decades:
The Central Arizona Project, the longest and most expensive aqueduct in U.S. history, originated at the Parker Dam and transported water southeastward. Congress approved the project in 1968 and it was finally completed in 1993. California protested the endeavor, however, since it depended on consuming the surplus left over by the unused allotments of other states. As late as 1997, the Colorado River still provided more than 60 percent of the water consumed in Southern California, constituting 20 percent more than the state’s allotment.
However…
Compounding the issue was the problem that the 1922 compact was based on erroneously high estimates of river flow. Thus, states were promised between 15 and 25 percent more than the true long-term average flow, later deduced from tree-ring studies and other geologic proxies.
Simply put, laying this problem at the feet of Californians is as productive as insisting this can be fixed by forcing the entire world to drive electric cars. The truth is even if they are using more than half of the available resources, they are not the only ones in the Lower Basin is using more than what is available.
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A churro, for those who are unaware, is a deep fried Mexican pastry covered in cinnamon and sugar. Often served with melted chocolate or a white icing for dipping. This pastry is unbelievably sweet and is downright dangerous for Sugarfree to be around. Same as this beer. Its a 7.5% abv “pastry stout” that goes heavy on the cinnamon and vanilla. If not for the alcohol it would be sold at Starbucks. Tio Rodrigo Churro Stout: 2.4/5
I would absolutely love a churro stout. There is a wee old lady who pushes a churro cart by my kid’s school at dismissal time; I can’t say no to a churro.
Ewwww.
Call it zero sum thinking, if you like, but adding consumers without increasing supply accordingly is pretty much guaranteed to cause problems.
It’s worse than that. Federal law grants agriculture preference (subsidized price) and so the morons use that to grow cotton and alfalfa. Of course they like to throw out the “we grow food” bullshit to cover up the cash crop reality. If they had to pay a market rate for water, they’d use it more wisely.
I’m covering that next week.
Looking forward to this. In principle, water isn’t any different than any other scare resource, and the price mechanism of an actual free market would solve this problem.
If market costs for certain parties in CA had to pay higher rates, they may allocate resources differently, or innovate to deal with scarce resources.
I take particular interest in this topic living just northwest of Los Angeles (at least until my wife retires and we can move out of this admittedly beautiful but run by a group of god forsaken idiots state).
Yeah, and the primary on the blame list is Jerry Brown. During his first term, he put a stop to a lot of public works projects in CA, from freeway expansion to reservoir building. He also tried to lower the working temps in state owned office buildings in winter, and that turned out to be a boondoggle. He had all the thermostats reset to 68*, and the very next day every state worker in brought in a space heater. Blew fuses, drew more energy than before, etc. Dude was an idiot.
Churro flavored Stout? What Devilry is this?
Great write up on the water wars MS!
The Colorado River is the main source of water for nearly 40 million Americans in seven states in the mountain west and another million in Mexico, plus irrigation and industrial uses (some of which ends up as exports back to the US). But not Constellation’s shitty fake beers
https://mexico-now.com/constellation-brands-gives-up-on-mexicali-brewery/
*barf*
Commenting on the governmental ineptitude and malfeasance, or the “beer”?
The former only makes me want to drink, the latter is making me too nauseous to do so.
Win-win.
Welcome to CA, here is your complimentary pumpkin spice latte.
I moved to Arizona in 85 and left in 92. CAP was constantly in the news while I was there.
Just get the water out of the tap like everyone else.
The tap? Dude. You need to get one of these:
https://www.acehardware.com/departments/lawn-and-garden/watering-and-irrigation/garden-hoses/72054
Good to go!
Everyone loves a hose with a reinforced core.
Penile implans #FTW!
Asked the SU to start a gofundme. She said no.
*shrugs*
Churros are delicious, but I wouldn’t want it in a beer.
Ecofascists would never let it happen, of course, but Kalifornia could solve their issues with nuclear powered desalination. More people live in LA county than in all of Arizona and it happens to sit next to the largest body of water in the world. But you’d have to use nuclear power and risk maybe sucking a few fish into an intake pipe, thus angering a vengeful Gaia and making the logical solution untenable.
The big problem with desalination plants is — the coast line. There was movement to try to build them ~ 30 years ago but (then, I don’t know about now) they’d have to be built on the coast and NIMBYism is a nuclear force for people with beach houses. Not happening until and unless their water actually gets cut off. There was more recently a plan for desalination in TJ, supported by the Saudis or one of the Emirates who have the most modern facilities IIRC, but I don’t know if that actually went anywhere.
San Diego County managed to get one deal plant up and running. It took a titanic struggle to get it approved.
There are enough good spots that wouldn’t be affected by beach house NMBY’s. Diablo Canyon is one example, in Norcal the back bay, on the north side, would be good, LA harbor could work, and so on. But, the overall NIMBY’s of CA would doom it.
Seriously, if you mention nuclear to them, all they can think of is Hiroshima. Bunch of ignorant, provincial dweebs.
Pipelines from the Great Lakes. Never mind the Rockies. You heard it here first.
My town has a green energy program. They made it so you had to opt out. I being a black hearted libertarian did so but I wonder how many people are in the program because they didn’t notice or bother opting out.
Well blow me down
Wind power was the No. 2 source for power generation in the U.S. for the first time ever on March 29, surpassing coal and nuclear power, the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) said Thursday.
Wind turbines in the continental U.S. produced 2,017 gigawatthours of electricity on the 29th, according to data from the EIA. While there have been days in the past when wind generation separately outpaced coal and nuclear generation, the 29th marked the first day that it surpassed both power sources.
Natural gas remained the top source of power generation on March 29, comprising 31 percent of power generation, followed by wind, nuclear and coal. The milestone comes a little more than two years after nationwide wind capacity outstripped nuclear capacity in September 2019. This did not immediately result in higher wind power output than nuclear, because wind generators are designed to run at lower capacity than nuclear generators.
We’re saved.
That’s great; now show me the wind output one week prior to and one week after that date.
2017 giga watts. Great what was the net energy usage after building all of those turbines. You know we can get fusion power at a net loss too.
You can’t even power Doc Brown’s DeLorean with that amount of juice.
It only requires 1.21 gigawatts to power the DeLorean
Due to bad editing, it’s questionable whether Doc said “one point twenty-one” or “twelve point twenty-one.”
I thought he said 1.21 million gigawats? Now I need to rewatch it.
He said “jiggawatts,” not gigawatts.
There’s a reason he had so much trouble making it work. He never did figure out the units.
Jigga, please.
He said “jiggawatts,” not gigawatts.
Is this a gif vs. jif thing? Leave me the hell out of it.
Ugh Geico has a commercial with some ass arrogantly telling his pal that “jif” is incorrect.
Wrong. Just ask the creator of the thing.
“Wrong. Just ask the creator of the thing”
He’s wrong. I don’t care how he thinks it should be pronounced. The ‘g’ stands for graphic, and it should be pronounced as such.
I used to work at a coal fired power plant that had three units, each capable of about 850 net MW. In 24 hours at base load we would produce 61,200MWh (61.2 GWh). So all that wind generation produced only as much as about 33 equivalents of my plant. And we could do that day in, day out, for months at a time between forced outages.
Now consider that our entire plant was built on a 400 acre site (and took up only about two thirds of it), compared with the millions of acres dedicated to wind generation in the US.
Yeah, but how many
birdsfeathered CO₂ emitters did you kill in day?I love me a steam plant. Ive been to Paradise.
So, too many people for too few resources. Easy fix and Newsom is on top of it. Make SF and LA unlivable and keep raising taxes and it will drive people to move to places where resources are available. See, Hollywood can work out of TN or TX or SC where water’s available.
The Mississippi River could easily be damned, flood IL and AR and any other place necessary and would still have water leftover.
Outdoor toilets/ sidewalks don’t use water either. I owe the California politicians an apology. I thought they were incompetent. They’re just playing the long game.
A decent enough solution except they keep moving to AZ.
Or Oregon.
I might come to resemble that remark.
The milestone comes as the Biden administration has made increased wind power installations a central part of its agenda to reduce U.S. carbon emissions by half by the end of the decade. The Interior Department has signed off on a number of offshore wind projects, including most recently the first wind power lease off the Carolinas in late March. The Biden administration has set a goal of leasing 30 gigawatts’ worth of offshore wind power.
If only we could generate electricity using good intentions.
In hurricane country? That will end well.
THERE IS NOTHING FUCKING WRONG WITH. CARBON! IT IS NOT POISON. CO2 IS NOT A POLLUTANT!!
Fuck, people are stubbornly ignorant.
You mean it’s got what plants crave??? Heresy!
Look at this science-denier up here. SMDH.
Unicorn farts are a good propellant I hear.
The town of Pahrump NV, my new home, is derived from Native American word for “water rock” because of the abundant Artesian wells here.
Sadly, fucking “greenies” have grifted themselves a contract with the Bureau of Land Management to install thousands of acres of solar panels directly adjacent to the town. The panels and power conversions need cooling water, which they plan to pump right out of the Artesian wells we live on!! The solar company is foreign owned, and the electricity is going to be sent to California.
It’s so obviously an ecological disaster for this area (breaking the desert “crust” is hugely harmful and will almost certainly kill hundreds of endangered desert tortoises) but greenies get to virtue signal and not suffer or even see the consequences.
I’m thinking of getting one of those huge clay pots to collect rainwater.
Road Warrior is going to be about water, not gasoline.
I’ve been reading and listening to the permaculture farmers as of late, and it amazes me how much water one can retain using trees and leaf litter and the like. Doesn’t work as well in the middle of the desert, though. I put a few inches of crushed up leaf litter on top of all my container raspberry plants, and the only difference between the ones getting daily water and the ones getting sporadic water is how deep in the leaf mulch I have to go before it is damp. Water retention, whether by natural means or by using giant pots, should be designed into every property in an area where “drought” is ever uttered.
Is this the project connected to Harry Reid? The one that exchanged land of endangered turtles with FedGov lands upon which the Bundy folk had been grazing their cattle?
I don’t know about Reid, but Indian tribal leaders are being paid off and all the people who oppose this are being patted on the head and thanked for their interest.
The propaganda is barf-inducing.
https://www.blm.gov/press-release/bureau-land-management-proceeds-processing-copper-rays-solar-project-application
Careful, in some states it’s illegal to collect rainwater.
I’m serious. HOA might rat you out.
It belongs to the GOV! They are really shitty about it here, in a swamp, surounded by lakes.
Checks laws for GA. 75 pages of bureaucratic BS.
*SMDH*
And yeah the D-bag on my HOA board would rat me out in second.
Seriously? I’ve never heard of such a thing.
But I’ve mostly lived in areas with enormous amounts of rain.
I don’t care, I’m putting a rain barrel on my deck, they can fuck off.
I like that here it’s for outdoor use only. What, am I going to do, run a line to all my toilets?
“Son, I’m off to take a dump. Go fill this pitcher with flush water for me.”
One thing there is not a lack of here in spring-fall is rain, I’m talking monsoons. That’s why I’m going to use that stuff to fill my hyroponic reservoirs, a lot cheaper than bottled spring water.
I don’t think we’ve had a dry summer in over a decade. The only I watered was with new sod. And it’s the same here. When it rains, it pours.
Yeah, my plan is to use it for my few shrubs and things. The roses are popping like crazy now! Hummingbirds everywhere.
Lee Valley (a canuckistan company that I love) makes an extremely cheap “dip the toe in the water” option that I think I’ll try first.
https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/garden/water-and-irrigation/rain-barrels/110151-collapsible-rain-barrel?item=WT334
That might work for us, but it’s too heavy for the deck I think.
Both of you live in states with no restrictions on such
https://worldwaterreserve.com/is-it-illegal-to-collect-rainwater/
Thanks, but regardless, they can fuck off. Let them enforce that, lol.
Yep. Colorado is one.
Sadly, fucking “greenies” have grifted themselves a contract with the Bureau of Land Management to install thousands of acres of solar panels directly adjacent to the town.
“Caution: Grown-ups at Work.”
Fascinating topic. Thanks, MS!
I’m told that many, many people have been murdered here over water rights. Deserts are a challenge.
I think I’ll pass on that beer and just have a churro with a normal beer!
Deserts wouldn’t be as much of a challenge without governments. Look at Israel for instance. Governments could make the Sahara run out of sand.
Paging Mark Twain
HIPSTER JUICE!!! I FEEL BETTER!
The Bee agrees with you!
Even better, pour tons of hops into the batch and call the bitter swill IPA.
Boa tarde Glibs, wokesters, willers of hipster juice, and Neo-Postciv-Stoics.
Guten tag. I am about to head to the beer store. Maybe I will get some hipster juice.
Hmm, that sounds like a plan, time to get on the Drizly…
For some reason I read that as Slavic Chicks.
I thought that Cali were doing a fine job themelves of depriving themselves of fresh water. I don’t think AZ can do any better on that front. So my advice to AZ is invade CA and ensure gnashing of teeth, pouring of ashes on hipster heads, rending of garmetns, and lamentation of the wiminz folk. Then build a giant wall around CA so they can’t get back on this side of the fence. We all thank you in advance.
I swear, the solution to this problem is always “just nuke CA”.
So whichever of you lot posted the recipe for the “low-carb” jambalaya- I just made it. Jugsy, forever being my test subject, only said “more please”.
I did add some sliced okra winfrey as a thickener. If I do it again I feel that bacon grease needs to be a fundamental ingredient.
Bacon grease is always a fundamental ingredient.
“cajun” cookin’ after all
Filé, powdered sassafras, is the other thickener often used in Cajun/Creole cooking. Okra was brought over by the Africans, the sassafras comes from the local Indians. A true American melting pot dish.
My poor wife is deathly allergic to seafood. Otherwise we’d have a pot of that going right now.
Maybe try it with chicken and sausage?
When was this? I missed it. 🙁
Easter Bee
Roman Soldier Assigned To Guard Tomb Of Some Jewish Carpenter Looking Forward To Uneventful Weekend
Satan Releases Statement Declaring Victory Over Jesus
I love them so much.
I’d say it’s like the Onion when the Onion was funny, but I’m not sure my memory stretches back that far.
I loved the Onion in their early days. The Bee is superior in every way.
And I’m positive one of their staff hangs out here. Too many coincidences.
Smells Like Splattered Brains remains my favorite onion headline.
Lol, that Elon Hitler is everywhere!
Taxing that second one to share on FB for Easter. Thanks!
Damn, my local store ran out of the margarita mix pack of Truly. I had to buy some Claw juice.
7 minutes and 3 seconds after placing that order, hipster juice at door. I’m starting to like the intertoobz again…
My watershed series might eventually suggest a solution to the AZ problem. Or not.
Don’t build in the desert?
These churros are making me thirsty.
WRT the article: gimme some water
*Best Eddie song ever. Change my mind.
No argument. My first concert was Eddie Money opening for April Wine. Amazing show.
Mine was here in 1985. AC/DC with Yngwie Malmsteen as the opener. Their “Fly On The Wall” tour.
Yngwie’s Icarus DreamSuite is a masterpiece.
When I was a wee college lass in Stockholm, Yngwie had a an autograph signing scheduled at a major department site downtown. He apparently left in a huff because there was nobody in line for his autograph when they opened!! Problem was that the publicists totally failed to get the word out. Otherwise I would have been there with bells on and gotten autographed CDs for my brother, myself, my friends, etc.
And back then, he mighta even given me the time of day.
Yngwie doesn’t count in music, he has white priviledge, only reason he’s that good. His guitar riffs just dripping with Nazi like racism.
Huey Lewis and the News, ’83 at the county fair. I was 12 and went with my mom. Awesome show.
Good one,
Better I wanna go back
Here’s an interesting take on current events,
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/biden-and-putin-in-business-together-thanks-to-iran-deal
And yet, outside of small circles of groups of people who can actually think for themselves, like here on Glibs, very few will ever even know about this. Thinking is hard, doing your own research is even harder, that might take minutes per week out of their valuable time spent watching mindless tv shows. They don’t need to think, they have MSNBC and CNN to tell them everything they need to know.
“they have MSNBC and CNN to tell them everything they need to know.”
By design.
One of the many things I don’t understand about all of this – perhaps the main thing – is WTF does the US supposedly gain from all these machinations?
Single Ukrainian wimmenz?
Yeah, I used to have a Ukrainian girl work for me. Miraslava.
Insane in the Ukraine.
If by US, you meant US citizens, nothing, in fact we lose.
But Biden and his cronies gain billions.
This. It’s flat out treason. The swamp sold us out to the global fascists long ago. As someone has said, the the length and breadth and depth of the American government is a criminal operation.
Yeah, it’s why I added ‘supposedly’. As in, what are Biden and friends even pretending is the benefit to us chumps? I’m not seeing anything much other than Putin Man Bad.
Look, they are saving us from Iran potentially developing a nuclear weapon, and potentially somehow developing the rocket technology to deliver that nuclear weapon to the US, while at the same time trying to provoke a country with enough nuclear weapons to destroy the entire population of the earth just sitting there ready to go, into a full on WW3.
Does that make any sense to anyone with a functioning brain? My hatred of these bastards is already hotter than 1000 blue giant suns.
It amazes me that anyone actually believes that. I assume nobody in the Deep State believes it, but there must be millions of ordinary citizens they have conned into believing it.
^ This
Im going to bed. Some of us have to WORK ALL NIGHT!
/looks for Rufus
Have good dreams of sex, drugs, drink, and rock and roll, the way God intended it to be!
Not til Monday Sucker!
/4 tens
Is this the dead thread now? I can’t find the live one…
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virginia-skydiver-survives-after-parachute-tangles-around-leg-and-she-smashes-into-ground-at-125-mph/ar-AAW5KsT
Other versions said 80 mph…still…lucky AF.
Nope nope nope nope. Co-worker tried to get me to do that. NFW.
But finally some good news.
In Fusion News
Finally after decades of fusion being 25 years away, we’ve made so much progress that now it’s only 30 years away.
Aetheism is not rational
Just a one up on the author’s thoughts. I’ve always felt that aetheism is just another religion. Most of them I talk to are just contrarians to religous people who somehow know there is a god, because they talk to him all of the time, or something. Why I am agnostic, I’m not religous. I cannot say there is a god, because I never saw him and he never talks to me, maybe because he doesn’t approve of my posts on Glibs, or he doesn’t like LED lights. I cannot say there is not a god because there is no way for me to know that even though I am the smartest person who ever lived, I’m still, admittedly, not smart enough to know such unkowable things.
I’m not seeing anything much other than Putin Man Bad.
There is an alarming lack of negotiation or even desired end point. It’s all punitive actions aimed at Bad Putin Man.
He was a convenient foil, but now it is time to get real. OMB didn’t plan properly because of his ego. Maybe Putin did. I say Putin gets assassinated, but I hope I’m wrong because of the consequences. Fuck Zelensky and all of his NAZI supporters.
Real news The Onion couldn’t beat: Gas Station facing lawsuits over cheap prices